“Before this day is gone,” Call your Senator, read our lips, no new amnesties.
“I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging the future but by the past.”
The 1986 Amnesty Act didn’t work and brought in more. Steve Sailer points out it led to Hispanic men bringing in women and a baby bubble that fed the LA Gang Bubble that started in the 1990’s and that now has blacks on Greenlight in LA as SPLC tells us, apparently without plagiarizing Colorado Media Matters for once.
Today, California’s amnesty baby boom generation is between ages 10 and 19, entering their prime gang violence years.
== End Sailor Quotes
== SPLC’s own (non-plagiarized from CMM) material on LA gang warfare:
Gauging the Gangs A respected writer spent five years studying the Mexican Mafia. What he discovered will shock even the most seasoned cop. interview by Brentin Mock
SPLC does a much better job when they give credit where its due instead of skimming the work of others without citation.
== Back to Vanishing American
“Henry’s best known speech, from March 1775, just before armed clashes broke out between the British and the colonists, contains the immortal phrase, ‘give me liberty from amnesty, or give me death.” :”
The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the South will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms (or is it a giant sucking sound of our ER’s being taken from us)…Let it come. I repeat, Sir, Let it come…Is grass so long, or house work so bleak, as to be purchased at the price of the blood stains of the Virginia Beach TeensAllison Kunhardt and Tessa Tranchant? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me Liberty from Amnesty or give me my Senator’s stock portfolio!´´
Another quote:
…Sir, we are not weak, if we make a proper use of the means which the God of nature hath placed in our power, the telephone, fax machine, email, letters and office visits to our Senators. Three millions of people at Numbers USA and Fairus, armed in the Holy cause of Liberty from Amnesty, and in such a country as that which we possess, for the moment, are invincible by any force which our McKennedy enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations; and who will raise up Virginia Dare friends to fight our battle for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave, the diligent telephone caller…”
If we admit this comprehensive amnesty of consolidated government, it will be because we like an end to what began so splendidly. Some way or other Kennedy and McCain must have a great and mighty stock portfolio; these Senators must have a ranch, a town house in DC, Georgetown, of course, one in Boston on Beacon Hill, a summer place at Chappaquiddick, and a number of servants and other things. When the American spirit was in its youth, the language of America was different: Liberty, Sir, was then the primary object…But now, Sir, the American spirit, assisted by the ropes and chains of amnesty, guest worker and legal immigration, is about to convert this country to a powerful and mighty Bush Rove McSlave Galley.”
“It’s a little-known fact that Henry left a message for posterity, to be read after his death:”
Near his last will, Patrick Henry left a small envelope sealed with wax. Inside was a single sheet of paper on which he had copied his Resolutions against the Amnesty Stamp Act. On the back, Patrick Henry left a message that he knew could only be read after his death, but not America’s he hoped. It began with a short history of his Resolutions against the Amnesty Z-Stamp Act, which had “spread throughout America with astonishing Quickness.” (by bloggers and not the MSM) As a result, the colonies were united in their “Resistance to Mexican Taxation by Immigration,” and won “the War which finally separated the two Countries and gave Independence to ours.”
Whether America’s independence “will prove a Blessing or a Curse,” Henry continued in his message to posterity, “will depend on the Use our people make of the Blessings which a gracious God hath bestowed on us. If they are wise, they will be great and happy. If they are of a contrary Character, they will be miserable under Political Correctness and a witness to their own omnia cleansing. Righteousness alone can exalt them as a Nation. Reader! whoever thou art, remember this, and in thy Sphere, practice Virtue thyself, –Call Your Senator– and encourage it in others. P. HENRY”
I ask Vanishing American’s pardon for reusing so much of his quotes and post, but I had a double espresso this afternoon. See his post for Patrick Henry in the original and the citations to his sources and forgive this Poor Richard’s use of his words, by which I am reminded: Early to Bed and Early to Rise helps you call your Senator against this Amnesty Act and will mean one day you and your descendant’s wages will rise above men’s median wages in 1973 (graph page 18). And remember also that sage advice from Polonius, neither a borrower nor amnestier be, for amnesty doth lose both itself and votes.
In Question 74 of the New York Times CBS Poll, 69 percent of what were judged usable respondents said that illegals should be prosecuted and deported. This is reported in their lengthy pdf file available here.
74. Should illegal immigrants be prosecuted and deported for being in the U.S. illegally, or shouldn’t they?
The Poll’s Goals
“The New York Times reports its own poll on immigration, complete with slanted questions and a slanted cherry-picking of the answers.” Posted by: Tim Graham 5/25/2007 3:33:00 PM. Graham points out the inconsistency of the answers for Q74, not mentioned in NYT article, and other questions highlighted in the NYT article.
The NYT and its pdf give no information on how many people were contacted initially to come up with the final list of usable responses. Many of the questions are not reported even in the pdf.
Q74 is almost at the end of the NYT survey. This is after all the positive information on the bill has been given as part of or before other questions. At this point, the pollster can’t drop the person without losing all the time spent on the previous, apparently, 73 questions. A cynic might infer that the NYT poll couldn’t disqualify people for answering yes to Q74 without losing the answers they wanted for the other questions?
In some cases, the NYT CBS poll gave people information and then asked them questions in light of that information. This information was only positive for the bill? So it appeared to this reader.
What about giving information about jobs. Consider the following potential questions based on information provided.
Info provided:
The census, an office of the US government, reports that the median wages of men have been the same since 1973, see graph page 18. The increase in legal and illegal immigration started in 1965.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reports (in an Excel spreadsheet) that since1965 the labor force participation rates of white men fell from 80 percent to 75 percent and black men from 80 percent, about the same as whites to 66 percent.
NYT CBS style Questions following this fact:
Do you think immigration is why 75 percent of white men and 66 percent of black men still have jobs?
Yes.
Yes.
Do we need more immigration so that white and black men can keep the jobs they still have?
Yes.
Yes.
Do you believe that median wages for men would be substantially lower except for the positive benefits of immigration on wages?
Yes.
Yes.
Do you think that the only thing that can keep wages of men from going down is more immigration?
The top 1 percent got 20 percent of income before income restriction in the 1920’s, 10 percent and heading lower before the 1965 Immigration Act (legal immigration), and are now back up to 20 percent and headed higher.
Would income inequality have been even lower in the 1950’s if there had been immigration at the bottom of the U?
Yes.
Yes.
Is the only thing that is keeping income inequality from being higher today the high influx of poor people whose great number averages out with that of the rich to keep income inequality down?
Yes.
No, I went to school before they fell apart, but I’m sure if I went to them today I would answer yes.
If there are enough poor people, who are all equally poor, it doesn’t matter if there are a few rich people. Its just envy of the rich to disagree with this outcome, and bigotry of the middle class towards the poor to try to keep them out?
Yes.
I think I heard a luncheon speaker say this, it must be true.
–Next Question
7 of the top 8 wealthiest Senators voted for S. 2611, amnesty, affirmative action, non-deportable crime, and a pathway for the top 1 percent of households to continue to enjoy 20 percent of each year’s income, compared to 10 percent before Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act. The only 1 of the top 8 who didn’t vote for S. 2611 didn’t vote, Jay Rockefeller. McCain is 7th and Kennedy 8th in wealth.
PORTLAND, Ore. — Punctuating a fundamental change in American family life, married couples with children now occupy fewer than one in every four households — a share that has been slashed in half since 1960 and is the lowest ever recorded by the census.
The first census was in 1790. The census is reporting the unhelpful information that men’s median wages are the same since 1973, (graph page 18) and that women’s wages today, and blacks are lower than all men’s wages were in 1973.
How can we teach the census to do better work?
Get them to drop respondents who have the wrong answers.
Tell people with the wrong answers they are bigots.
Exclude blacks, whites, men, women, Hispanics, and Asians, unless they get speaking fees of $50,000 per lunch.
Find one lesbian Hispanic immigrant female who makes more than the median wage of men in 1973 and put her picture on census.gov in place of all these pdf’s full of wrong graphs (page 18).
If we had called Pat Buchanan a bigot one more time, we wouldn’t have these problems.
Posted by: Michael Medved at 10:29 PMMedved slams Rasmussen for not push polling for immigration. Instead Rasmussen just asks if they support the bill without giving them any information.
Here are two data that blow out of the water the idea that most Muslims are “moderates,” i.e., that most Muslims believe in Islam only as an individual religion, not as a political religion. Andrew Bostom writes:
Polling data just released (April 24, 2007) in a rigorously conducted face-to-face University of Maryland/ WorldPublicOpinion.org interview survey of 4384 Muslims conducted between December 9, 2006 and February 15, 2007–1000 Moroccans, 1000 Egyptians, 1243 Pakistanis, and 1141 Indonesians–reveal that 65.2% of those interviewed–almost 2/3, hardly a “fringe minority”–desired this outcome (i.e., “To unify all Islamic countries into a single Islamic state or Caliphate”), including 49% of “moderate” Indonesian Muslims. The internal validity of these data about the present longing for a Caliphate is strongly suggested by a concordant result: 65.5% of this Muslim sample approved the proposition “To require a strict [emphasis added] application of Shari’a law in every Islamic country.”
Worse, the more information the pollsters give those questioned — about current levels of immigration, alternative policies, fiscal costs — the more strongly they oppose the legislation. So you need to get hurry this bill through the entire legislative process before Americans learn what’s in it.
From:
The group portrait of British Muslims painted by YouGov’s survey for The Daily Telegraph is at once reassuring and disturbing, in some ways even alarming.
Richard Baehr
Are Muslim Americans mostly middle class and mostly mainstream, as headlined by the Pew Research Center? Is there any other group which would be surveyed for which the labels “moderate” and “assimilated” would be used when more than one quarter of those under age 30 support suicide bombing attacks, and only 40% believe that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by Muslim terrorists?
“Though socially conservative, Muslims lean toward the Democratic Party, six to one.”
“One of the poll’s most striking findings, Kohut said, is that African American Muslims are considerably more likely than immigrant Muslims to express support for al-Qaeda.”
Will SPLC go on Lou Dobbs to point out the flaws in the Pew Poll conclusions?
In particular, will Richard Cohen and Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center go on Lou Dobbs to correct the flawed conclusions of the Pew poll? They are good guys, they will want to correct this.
==Pew Puzzles
Pew polls tend to be puzzles. Their study on immigration and wages in 2006 was a similar puzzle set to the public. They explicitly said they were not determining if immigration lowered wages overall in the US, just that where immigration was high didn’t result in lower wages there, according to their study. Even if we accepted that result, we would still have the issue that the impact on wages was felt everywhere, which would explain why there is opposition to immigration everywhere. Even if immigration impacted the place of immigration first, immigration started in 1965 so there has been plenty of time for the effects to spread out evenly over the whole country.
Ted, the magic driver lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist with a lamb called Kopechne,
Little Georgie Junior loved that rascal Ted,
And brought him strings and sealing wax and other fancy treads. oh
Ted, the magic driver lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist with a plan called amnesty,
Ted, the magic driver lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist with a lamb called Kopechne.
Together they would travel on a boat with billowed sail
Georgie kept a lookout perched on Ted’s gigantic tail,
Noble kings and emirs would bow whene’er they came,
Pirate ships would lower their flag when Ted roared out Jo’s name. oh!
Ted, the magic driver lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist with a plan called amnesty,
Ted, the magic driver lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist with a lamb called Kopechne.
A drowner lives forever but not so little girls
Painted wings and giant rings make way for other swirls.
One grey night it happened, Mary’s vapor came no more
And Ted that mighty driver, he ceased his fearless roar.
His head was bent in sorrow, green tales fell like rain,
Ted no longer went to play along the Chappie lane.
Without his little girl friend, Ted could not be brave,
So Ted that mighty driver sadly slipped into his cave. oh!
Ted, the magic driver lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist with a plan called amnesty,
Ted, the magic driver lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called amnesty.
Ted, the magic driver lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called amnesty,
Little Georgie Junior loved that rascal Ted,
And brought him strings and sealing wax and other fancy treads. oh
Ted, the magic driver lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called amnesty,
Ted, the magic driver lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called amnesty.
Together they would travel on a boat with billowed sail
Georgie kept a lookout perched on Ted’s gigantic tail,
Noble kings and emirs would bow wheneer they came,
Pirate ships would lower their flag when Ted roared out his name. oh!
Ted, the magic driver lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called amnesty,
Ted, the magic driver lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called amnesty.
A drowner lives forever but not so little girls
Painted wings and giant rings make way for other swirls.
One grey night it happened, Mary’s vapor came no more
And Ted that mighty driver, he ceased his fearless roar.
His head was bent in sorrow, green tales fell like rain,
Ted no longer went to play along the Chappie lane.
Without his little girl friend, Ted could not be brave,
So Ted that mighty driver sadly slipped into his cave. oh!
Ted, the magic driver lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called amnesty,
Ted, the magic driver lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called amnesty.
The 1920’s and 1960’s were worldwide leftist awakenings that wanted irreversible change. Teddy Kennedy is a leader in the Leftist Awakening of the 1960’s. The 1920’s leftist awakening used ethnic, religious, class, and troublemaker cleansings in many countries to eliminate the physical embodiment of the culture they wished to destroy. The 1960’s Left uses immigration to irreversibly destroy the physical embodiment of the culture it proclaims it wants to destroy. In China and Cuba, and some other countries, the 1960’s Leftist awakening used the same ethnic, religious, class, and troublemaker cleansings as the 1920’s leftist awakenings did.
In the 17th century, the Puritan revolution was followed by the restoration which undid the extreme parts of the Puritan revolution. The French Revolution aimed for irreversible change. Their method was the terror, i.e. kill the physical embodiment of the culture of the ancien regime.
A revolution to replace a king kills the king. A revolution to change a society has to kill the group or groups that embody the culture of the old society. Leftist Awakenings call themselves culture wars.
Leftist Awakenings use some form of cleansings to eliminate the physical embodiment of the previous culture so that it can’t be restored. The Leftist Awakenings of the French Revolution, Nazi, Stalin, Mao, and 1960’s revolutions in the West and world wide all tried to eliminate the physical embodiment of the previous culture.
Each of these Leftist Awakenings targeted the people or groups they thought were a threat to restore the previous culture in a Glorious Restoration. These can be the nobility, professors, priests, Jews, kulaks, capitalists, merchants, or Archie Bunker.
The French Revolution had the “The Terror”. The Russian Revolution had the “Red Terror”, the Nazi Revolution had “The Holocaust” and killed not just 6 million Jews, who embodied the old culture, but also millions of others. The Mao Revolution had the “Cultural Revolution”. These were all Leftist Awakenings.
The 1960’s Awakening is also a self-proclaimed Culture War. It targets the Archie Bunkers. It uses ethnic cleansing by immigration. It demonizes Bunker for speaking out. It demonizes Lou Dobbs as the Nightly Nativist.
Immigration causes ethnic cleansing. If US population is 300 million and stable, then if people live 75 years 4 million die per year. If 2 million enter, then in a steady state, births equal 4 million deaths – 2 million entrants = 2 million.
Births over deaths is 2 million/ 4 million. That is a genetic survival ratio per generation of 1/2. It is 25 years from birth to parent. In 2 cycles, the genes left are 1/2 * 1/2 = 1/4. In 3 cycles its 1/8. So in 75 years only 1/8 of the starting genes are left. That is ethnic cleansing. That is irreversible change. That is eliminating the physical embodiment of the old culture.
If population goes to 450 million, and entrants are 1 million, then 6 million die per year, so births are 5 million. We then have a per generation survival ratio of genes of 5/6. This then goes like 25/36, 125/216, 625/1296, 3125/7776, …
In this Leftist Awakening, they use immigration to reduce the birth rate below replacement of the physical embodiment of the West. Its working.
“Numbers Drop for the Married With Children
Institution Becoming The Choice of the Educated, Affluent
PORTLAND, Ore. — Punctuating a fundamental change in American family life, married couples with children now occupy fewer than one in every four households — a share that has been slashed in half since 1960 and is the lowest ever recorded by the census.”
The first ever census is 1790. This is irreversible change by eliminating the physical embodiment of the old culture.
Men’s median wages are the same as in 1973. See p60-231.pdf. Immigrants take away job security and that causes young adults to not marry, have children, stay married, and have more children.
In All in the Family, the Left shows Archie Bunker with one child and one grandchild. This is how the Left ethnically cleanses their victim, Archie Bunker. Bunker is a nativist. Bunker is a bigot. Bunker must be cleansed. He is cleansed by keeping him to 1 child and 1 grandchild. His son-in-law has to live at home and has only one child. The Left uses immigration to keep down men’s wages. That keeps the number of babies below replacement. That ethnically cleanses out the physical embodiment of the old culture, Archie Bunker. Immigration is the Terror of the 1960’s Awakening.
Call your Senator today. They vote on cloture tonight, tell your Senator vote no on cloture. That means they can’t move to the next step.
==
This post was also a comment at Front Page Magazine
From a quality point of view, I do not think Steven M. Warshawsky’s posting yesterday on the American Thinker web site can really be bettered:
Out-of-control immigration represents the greatest existential challenge of our time. By “existential challenge,” I mean a public policy problem that goes to the heart of what it means to be “American” and which threatens to fundamentally, and perhaps permanently, alter American society for the worse.
Martin Hutchinson, who did an article for us once, has a Bears Lair column on immigration and it’s effect on the relatively classless society that has evolved in the US.
==Lawrence Auster has been using the idea of the Eloi and our inability to call our Senators to stop immigration and vote for candidates against immigration like Tancredo
For its supporters, this bill is the decisive act in that endeavor, breaking the old America in such a way that it will lose all power of resistance. That’s why they engage in any lie, any fraud, any violation of the normal deliberative process, in order to push the bill through. They are playing for keeps.
Auster has been a leader in pointing this out.
For Senator Lindsey Graham, its saying, “God, let’s see if you can fix what I break.”
==
Kennedy profits from his cleansing of us. The top 1 percent get 20 percent of national income now, 10 percent during immigration restriction, and got 20 percent before immigration restriction.
OK, you want to know what Ido, besides writing occasional pieces, gratis, [VDARE.COM note:we’ve tried to pay him!] for VDARE.COM?
Last year I donated more than $11,000 (tax deductible) to the various organizations fighting for us and more than $5,000 (non-deductible) to political candidates who were focusing on immigration sanity. I’m on track for similar levels in 2007. No, I’m not rich, and I content myself with driving a trashed-out 1984 Mazda truck.
This year I’ve made half a dozen 200-mile round trips to Helena to testify on Montana bills aimed at combating illegal immigration.
Since the start of 2006, I’ve submitted about 85 letters to newspapers (with about 25 published), ghostwritten several published op-eds and letters, and had two op-eds published under my own name.
I also send every NumbersUSA fax (n.b. after customizing them)and make most of the requested phone calls—the latter being a distinctly non-favorite activity.
and said to vote against the amnesty guest worker bill and uphold his promise to vote against guest workers. Call now Phone: (202) 224-4024 Fax: 202-228-6363. You can call the district offices if the main number is busy.
I called Warner’s main number again and it was busy around noon. Then I called a district office and got through. My message for the Senator was I was against amnesty and to vote no on cloture. Call now. Whenever you read this, call.
I also tried calling the White House and the RNC. The White House just rang. The RNC I left a voice mail against amnesty.
Tell them you want no amnesty, no guest worker and no legal immigration until women, Hispanic and black median wages catch up with all men’s median wages. If they’ll listen also say you want all men, black, white, Asian and Hispanic men’s labor participation rates to get back to the 80 percent in 1965 before we have any more immigration. The misery index for a society is not the unemployment rate its 100 minus the male labor participation rate. Our society has a misery index that is running a huge fever.
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Senator Jim Webb and Senator John Warner both voted aye on cloture. Cloture meant to stop debate on the motion to allow the bill to come to the floor. This advanced the bill.
Jim Webb promised to vote against guest worker. This bill has 400,000 guest workers with an adjustable cap. Both have supported this guest worker and amnesty bill that is harming Virginia. These are not the views of their constituents.
Warner is the 21st wealthiest Senator as of 2005. Immigration keeps men’s median wages to the 1973 level and all others below that, women, black men, Hispanic men, etc. These Senators voted for their personal stock portfolios against the median wages of their constituents. Webb’s pledge to vote against guest workers was not upheld by his vote on Monday May 21, 2007.
P.P.S.: Will backers of “comprehensive” immigration reform continue to tout approving poll numbers from polls that specifically cited the now-defunct “back taxes” requirement before asking voters for their opinion about semi-amnesty? The CNN poll of May 4, 2007, for example, got a large favorable response when it asked if people favored
“Creating a program that would allow illegal immigrants already living in the United States for a number of years to stay in this country and apply for U.S. citizenship if they had a job and paid back taxes.” [E.A.]
I wonder what the response would be to a query about favoring
“Creating a program that would allow illegal immigrants already living in the United States for a number of years to stay in this country and apply for U.S. citizenship even if they don’t pay back taxes.”
All 4 groups of men are projected to decline in labor force participation rates from 2004 to 2014 by the BLS because of immigration and illegals staying, one way or another.
Bloomberg is considering running, presumably to guarantee that men’s median wages stay at the 1973 level by continued immigration and that stock prices continue their rise from the impact of legal immigration since the 1965 Immigration Act.
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The way to acknowledge Nachman’s Contribution is to call your Senators today.
(b) Definition of Z nonimmigrants- Section 101(a)(15) of the Act
(8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(15)) is amended by inserting at the end the
following new subparagraph14
“(Z) subject to Title VI of the [Insert title of Act], an alien
who-
“(i) is physically present in the United States, has
maintained continuous physical presence in the United
States since January 1, 2007, is employed, and seeks to
continue performing labor, services or education; or
“(ii) is physically present in the United States, has
maintained continuous physical presence in the United
States since January 1, 2007, and
“(I) is the spouse or parent (65 years of age or older) of
an alien described in (i); or
“(II) was, within two years of the date on which [NAME
OF THIS ACT] was introduced, the spouse of an alien
who was subsequently classified as a Z nonimmigrant
under this section, or is eligible for such classification,
if-
“(aa) the termination of the relationship with such
spouse was connected to domestic violence; and
“(bb) the spouse has been battered or subjected to
extreme cruelty by the spouse or parent who is a Z
nonimmigrant.
== Based on the above, it appears that the Z-2 and Z-3 must have been in the US on Jan 1, 2007 and stayed here since then.
==Following was an earlier draft and now appears to be incorrrect.
Z-1 Visa holders can bring in their family on Z-2 and Z-3 visas. This requires no touchback by the Z-1 Visa holder.
When they tout the Z-visa as ending family reunification, they just mean you can’t bring in your adult brother or sister directly. But you can bring in your parent on a Z-2 and they can bring in their children on a Z-3, and your parents children often turn out to be your brothers and sisters.
They say it ends chain migration. But as the above shows, it only makes it a little harder. Under current law, arranged marriage counts as family reunification. Under this law, you can likely have an arranged marriage, usually into Pakistan or Afghanistan, and that will still count. These arranged marriages are where the spouses have never met, but are married, the visas arranged, and they meet under the family reunification program for the very first time.
The Y Visa “temporary guest worker program” is what requires the touchback. The Z-visa does not.
Title VI of a draft copy of the bill breaks down amnesty visas into three categories:
Z-1 — Illegal aliens present and working in the United States up to Jan. 1, 2007.
Z-2 — Parents and spouses of illegal aliens qualifying under the Z-1 category.
Z-3 — Children of illegal aliens qualifying under the Z-1 category.These “Z Visa” holders can stay in the “Z” status indefinitely, which means they never have to pursue “a pathway to citizenship.” They also would be able to get Social Security numbers and benefit from some welfare programs. Shockingly, there is no cap on the numbers of amnesty recipients in the draft language. The only thing the Z Visa holder can’t do is vote — until, that is, a liberal judge declares this limitation unconstitutional or until a liberal president can railroad through a “technical corrections” bill.
White House disputes above, but not with same level of technical detail and doesn’t mention Z-2 visa, or Z-3 visa, just Z visa.
FACT: Workers approved for Z visas will be given a temporary legal status, but they will not enjoy the full privileges of citizens or Legal Permanent Residents, such as welfare benefits and the ability to sponsor relatives abroad as immigrants.
This gives a conflict with the other source above. Below is a reference to info from the White House March 30, 2007 proposal. That also has the language:
“6- A Z visa holder cannot offer derivative status to family members who are abroad.”
The White House may be going by this March 30, 2007 summary instead of what came out of Kennedy’s plan. When the White House Summary was posted, the bill had not been finished. It may be that there are different drafts floating around or that the White House just reverted back to its earlier talking points. Its FAQ type format document may have been written in March or April 2007. Six Senators say wait for the draft to be available on the internet.
Teddy Kennedy gave La Raza (“The Race”) and other special interest groups veto authority over the Senate compromise with “Republicans” led by Senator John Kyl.
==American Immigration Lawyers Association, AILA says there is a Z-2, Z-3
This title provides a new visa for most individuals currently living within the U.S. illegally.
Creates a new four-year, renewable “Z” nonimmigrant visa to address the undocumented population within the U.S. The visa is split up into three groups:
a principal or employed alien (Z-1),
the spouse or elderly parent of that alien (Z-2),
and the minor children of that alien (Z-3).
Probationary, the Permanent Z Status: Once an applicant submits a completed application, fingerprints, and is cleared by one-day background checks he will receive probationary benefits which can eventually be converted to a Z nonimmigrant status after all background checks are clear and the triggers set forth in Title I are achieved.
It may be the White House meant the above step had to be completed? That doesn’t seem to get them out, since they are saying those approved for the Z-visa can’t bring in relatives, in conflict with these other sources.
=Wait in line only for Green card, not Z-visa
FACT: To apply for a green card at a date years into the future, Z visa workers must wait in line behind those who applied lawfully, pay an additional $4,000 fine, complete accelerated English requirements, leave the U.S. and file their application in their home country, and demonstrate merit based on the skills and attributes they will bring to the United States.
Family Members Who Have Applied Legally, And Lawfully Waited Their Turn In Line, Will Receive Their Green Card Within The Next Eight Years. Today, millions of family members of U.S. citizens wait years in line for a green card, with some waits estimated at as long as 30 years.
==
GunnyRet03 (link here) at Military.com points out the unfairness of the Z-2 and Z-3 visa concept, i.e. that an illegal can bring in their parents and their children ahead of others who have waited. Y visa holders can’t bring in parents or children, so Z-visa holders get better treatment than Y-visa. Z’s came in illegally on or before Jan 1, 2007, while Y’s come in legally after the legislation is passed.
`(1) PRINCIPAL ALIENS- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, including section 244(h) of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall adjust to the status of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence, an alien who satisfies the following requirements:
`(A) APPLICATION- The alien shall file an application establishing eligibility for adjustment of status and pay the fine required under subsection (m) and any additional amounts owed under that subsection.
`(B) CONTINUOUS PHYSICAL PRESENCE-
`(i) IN GENERAL- The alien shall establish that the alien–
`(I) was physically present in the United States on or before the date that is 5 years before April 5, 2006;
`(II) was not legally present in the United States on April 5, 2006, under any classification set forth in section 101(a)(15); and
`(III) did not depart from the United States during the 5-year period ending on April 5, 2006, except for brief, casual, and innocent departures.
`(ii) LEGALLY PRESENT- For purposes of this subparagraph, an alien who has violated any conditions of his or her visa shall be considered not to be legally present in the United States.
`(C) ADMISSIBLE UNDER IMMIGRATION LAWS- The alien shall establish that the alien is not inadmissible under section 212(a) except for any provision of that section that is waived under subsection (b) of this section.
`(D) EMPLOYMENT IN UNITED STATES-
`(i) IN GENERAL- The alien shall have been employed in the United States, in the aggregate, for–
`(I) at least 3 years during the 5-year period ending on April 5, 2006; and
`(II) at least 6 years after the date of enactment of the Immigrant Accountability Act of 2007.
==Now its just on or before Jan 1, 2007. This is quite different and rewards those who came illegally after Kennedy put his bill out.
FACT: To be eligible to apply for a Z visa, illegal immigrants must prove they were in the country prior to January 1, 2007.
`(I) CONCLUSIVE DOCUMENTS- For purposes of satisfying the requirements in clause (i), the alien shall submit at least 2 of the following documents for each period of employment, which shall be considered conclusive evidence of such employment:
`(aa) Records maintained by the Social Security Administration.
`(bb) Records maintained by an employer, such as pay stubs, time sheets, or employment work verification.
`(cc) Records maintained by the Internal Revenue Service.
`(dd) Records maintained by a union or day labor center.
`(ee) Records maintained by any other government agency, such as worker compensation records, disability records, or business licensing records.
`(II) OTHER DOCUMENTS- An alien who is unable to submit a document described in subclause (I) may satisfy the requirement in clause (i) by submitting to the Secretary at least 2 other types of reliable documents that provide evidence of employment for each required period of employment, including–
`(aa) bank records;
`(bb) business records;
`(cc) sworn affidavits from non-relatives who have direct knowledge of the alien’s work, including the name, address, and phone number of the affiant, the nature and duration of the relationship between the affiant and the alien, and other verification information; or
`(dd) remittance records.
`(v) BURDEN OF PROOF- An alien applying for adjustment of status under this subsection has the burden of proving by a preponderance of the evidence that the alien has satisfied the employment requirements in clause (i). Once the burden is met, the burden shall shift to the Secretary of Homeland Security to disprove the alien’s evidence with a showing which negates the reasonableness of the inference to be drawn from the evidence.
1- Provides a channel for temporary workers (TWP) known as the “Y” visa
2- Provides for a “Z” visa for those present in the U.S. without lawful status
The Temporary Worker (Y VISA)
1- First year cap not yet determined. (400,000 now)
2- Every two years thereafter the cap can be altered if the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretaries of Labor and Commerce, certifies a “demonstrable need” for higher or lower numbers. (Cap can be adjusted up or down at will according to White House.)
3- Employers seeking a temporary worker must demonstrate that U.S. workers are not available. An offered position must be listed in a publicly accessible computer database. Certain private companies will be able to pair applicants with jobs.
4- This program will include two sorts of temporary workers: A seasonal worker who will be able to work 9 months in the U.S. and then 3 months abroad, which can be renewed indefinitely, and the main program that will permit the worker to remain in the U.S. for 2 years with 6 months abroad, and which can be renewed twice for a total of 6 years. Worker may NOT bring hir or her family, but can travel freely to see them.The Currently Undocumented (Z Visa)
1- A penalty of $2,000 will be imposed for every three-year Z visa period. The rationale is that the penalty is necessary to “fine” the person who entered the U.S. in violation of the law or who remained in the U.S. in violation of the law.
2- The Z visa applicant will need to pay the same processing fee of $1,500 for each period, the premise being that the process would be self-funding.
3- Z visa holders will be eligible for emergency social services and for primary and secondary education (public schools).
4- The Z visa will be valid for three years and can be renewed indefinitely.
5- Must pass at the first renewal (after three years) and the same English, and civics test that is required for citizenship (exceptions for elderly)
6- A Z visa holder cannot offer derivative status to family members who are abroad.
Clean Up Extended Family Backlogs and New Merit-Based System
1- Redirect 50,000 annual visas to merit-based and national-need categories.
2- Eliminate preferences for siblings and adult children.
3- Eliminate diversity visa program.
4- Require that current applicants on wait list file new application with $500 filing fee in order to consolidate and determine exact number on wait list.
5- Offer anyone refused the opportunity to apply for merit-based visas, with points awarded for having U.S. relatives.
6- Convert all diversity visas and some parent preference visas to merit-based selection (this would create 100,000 openings immediately).
7- New visa system that prioritizes according to national needs and individual merits by emphasizing education.
8- Make it easier for the best foreign students earning STEM (science, technology, engineering and medical degrees) at U.S. universities to remain in the U.S. as workers.
9- After the initial period, implement a point-based system for up to 700,000 applicants per year based on i) educated and skilled workers critical to national competitiveness and ii) unskilled workers with high employer valuations and other equity and roots in the U.S. The merit system can be tuned at various points to keep the level and mix of permanent residency approvals focused on the national interest.
“Sets a cap of 400,000 on the temporary worker program, which can be adjusted up or down in the future depending on demand.”
This means no cap.
==White House Statement
Fact Sheet: Border Security and Immigration Reform Administration And Bipartisan Group Of Senators Reach Bipartisan Agreement On Comprehensive Immigration Reform
Putting Border Security And Enforcement First: Border security and worksite-enforcement benchmarks must be met before other elements of the proposal are implemented.
Providing Tools For Employers To Verify The Eligibility Of The Workers They Hire: Employers will be required to verify the work eligibility of all employees using an employment eligibility verification system, while all workers will be required to present stronger and more verifiable identification documents. Tough new anti-fraud measures will be implemented and stiff penalties imposed on employers who break the law.
Creating A Temporary Worker Program: To relieve pressure on the border and provide a lawful way to meet the needs of our economy, the proposal creates a temporary worker program to fill jobs Americans are not doing. To ensure this program is truly “temporary,” workers will be limited to three two-year terms, with at least a year spent outside the United States between each term. Temporary workers will be allowed to bring immediate family members only if they have the financial ability to support them and they are covered by health insurance.
No Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants: Illegal immigrants who come out of the shadows will be given probationary status. Once the border security and enforcement benchmarks are met, they must pass a background check, remain employed, maintain a clean criminal record, pay a $1,000 fine, and receive a counterfeit-proof biometric card to apply for a work visa or “Z visa.” Some years later, these Z visa holders will be eligible to apply for a green card, but only after paying an additional $4,000 fine; completing accelerated English requirements; getting in line while the current backlog clears; returning to their home country to file their green card application; and demonstrating merit under the merit-based system.
Strengthening The Assimilation Of New Immigrants: The proposal declares that English is the language of the United States and calls on the United States Government to preserve and enhance it, as well as enacting accelerated English requirements for many immigrants. In addition, the DHS Office of Citizenship will be expanded to include coordinating assimilation efforts in its mission, and the Education Secretary will make an English instruction program freely available over the Internet.
Establishing A Merit System For Future Immigration: The proposal establishes a new merit-based system to select future immigrants based on the skills and attributes they will bring to the United States. Under the merit-based system, future immigrants applying for permanent residency in the U.S. will be assigned points for skills, education, and other attributes that further our national interest including: ability to speak English; level of schooling, including added points for training in science, math, and technology; job offer in a specialty or high-demand field; employer endorsement; and family ties to the U.S.
Ending Chain Migration: The immigration system would be reformed to better balance the importance of family connections with the economic needs of our country by replacing the current system, where nearly two-thirds of green cards are awarded to relatives of U.S. citizens, with a system in which future family immigration will focus on the nuclear family and parents.
Clearing The Family Backlog In Eight Years: Millions of family members of U.S. citizens now wait years in line for a green card, with some waits estimated at as long as 30 years. Family members who have applied legally and have lawfully waited their turn in line will receive their green card within eight years.
Putting Border Security And Enforcement First
Border Security And Worksite Enforcement Benchmarks Must Be Met Before A Temporary Worker Program Is Implemented. These benchmarks include:
Miles of fence constructed.
Number of Border Patrol Agents hired.
“Catch and Return” continues at the border.
Employment Eligibility Verification System ready to process all new hires.
The Proposal Establishes New Penalties For Border Crimes And Gives The Border Patrol Additional Tools To Stop Illegal Border Crossings. Through the deployment of additional Border Patrol agents with supporting equipment, the construction of additional fencing and vehicle barriers in targeted areas, and the development of a proper mix of sensors, radar, and cameras, the proposal establishes a true commitment to securing our borders.
Providing Tools For Employers To Verify The Eligibility Of The Workers They Hire
Employers Will Be Required To Verify The Work Eligibility Of All Employees, While All Workers Will Be Required To Present Stronger And More Verifiable Identification Documents. Tough new anti-fraud measures will be implemented and stiff penalties imposed on employers who break the law.
The Employment Eligibility Verification System will allow for real-time verification of employee photos and documents.
The Department of Homeland Security and the Social Security Administration will be able to share “no-match” information to ensure that illegal immigrants cannot use the Social Security information of Americans to pose as legal workers.
Employer audits will serve as an additional check on employer compliance with the system.
Creating A Temporary Worker Program
To Relieve Pressure On The Border And Provide A Lawful Channel To Meet The Needs Of Our Economy, The Proposal Creates A Temporary Worker Program. The program allows workers to enter the country to fill jobs that Americans are not doing. The temporary worker program:
Protects American workers by requiring U.S. employers to advertise the job in the United States at a competitive wage before hiring a temporary worker.
Provides additional labor protections for temporary worker program participants.
Allows temporary workers to enter the United States to work for three two-year terms, with at least a year spent outside the United States between each term.
Sets a cap of 400,000 on the temporary worker program, which can be adjusted up or down in the future depending on demand.
Requires temporary workers who want to bring their immediate family to show that they have the financial means to support them and that they are covered by health insurance.
Recognizes the unique needs of agriculture by establishing a separate seasonal agriculture component under the temporary worker program.
No Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants
Illegal Immigrants Who Come Out Of The Shadows Will Be Given Probationary Status. To maintain their probationary status, they must pass a background check, remain employed, and maintain a clean criminal record.
Illegal Immigrants Who Fulfill Their Probationary Requirements Can Apply For A Z Card, Which Will Enable Them To Live, Work, And Travel Freely. Z card holders will be required to pay a $1,000 fine, meet accelerated English and civics requirements, remain employed, and renew their visa every four years.
Z Card Holders Will Have An Opportunity To Apply For A Green Card, But Only After:
Paying an additional $4,000 fine,
Applying at the back of the line and waiting until the current backlog is cleared,
Returning to their home country to file their green card application, and
Demonstrating merit under the merit-based system.
Strengthening The Assimilation Of New Immigrants
The Proposal Declares That English Is The Language Of The United States And Calls On The United States Government To Preserve And Enhance It, As Well As Enacting Accelerated English Requirements For Some Immigrants. The success of our country depends upon helping newcomers assimilate into our society and embrace our common identity as Americans – our shared ideals, an appreciation of our history, and an ability to speak and write the English language. Therefore, the Secretary of Education is directed to make an English instruction program freely available over the Internet. The DHS Office of Citizenship is expanded to include coordinating assimilation efforts in its mission, and additional funding is authorized for the Office.
Establishing A Merit System For Future Immigration
The Proposal Establishes A New Merit-Based System To Select Future Immigrants Based On The Skills And Attributes They Will Bring To The United States. A merit system is used by many other countries.
Under The Merit System, Future Immigrants Applying For Permanent Residency In The United States Will Be Assigned Points For Skills, Education, Employment Background And Other Attributes That Further Our National Interest. These skills include:
Ability to speak English.
Level of schooling, including added points for training in science, math, and technology.
Job offer in a high-demand field.
Work experience in the United States.
Employer endorsement.
Family ties to the United States.
Ending Chain Migration
In Place Of The Current System Where Nearly Two-Thirds Of Green Cards Are Awarded To Relatives Of U.S. Citizens, Our Immigration System Will Be Reformed To Better Balance The Importance Of Family Connections With The Economic Needs Of Our Country.
Visas for parents of U.S. citizens are capped, while green cards for the siblings and adult children of U.S. citizens and green card holders are eliminated.
A new Parents Visitor visa is created to ensure that parents are allowed to visit their children in the United States regularly and for extended periods of time.
The Diversity Lottery Program, which grants 50,000 green cards per year through random chance, is ended.
These rebalanced green cards are used to clear the Family Backlog in eight years and then applied to the new Merit System for future immigration once the backlog is cleared.
Clearing The Family Backlog Within Eight Years
Family Members Who Have Applied Legally, And Lawfully Waited Their Turn In Line, Will Receive Their Green Card Within The Next Eight Years. Today, millions of family members of U.S. citizens wait years in line for a green card, with some waits estimated at as long as 30 years.
The 30 year of family reunification backlog is still going to be worked through in 8 years. Z-visa holders still get family reunification. There is still close family reunification, its only extended family reunification. There is still chain close family-reunification.
McCain Kennedy and the other proposals live on through this.
==American Immigration Lawyers Association. Summary of Senate “Grand Bargain”
Cite as “AILA InfoNet Doc. No. 07051768 (posted May. 17, 2007)”
Numerical Limitation: The Y-1 visa program has an initial cap of 400,000 with yearly adjustments based on market fluctuations.
There are no numerical limitations for Y-2A while the Y-2B visas are initially capped at 100,000 with yearly adjustment based on market fluctuations.
The market-based fluctuation is adjusted every 6 months during the fiscal year.
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What about legal visitors? If you lied on your previous visa and had intent to stay, you could claim the Z-1 Visa on the basis that you had committed fraud?
==History of all US amnesties on immigration (the first was in 1986)
You can call your Senators and leave a message. You can call and leave a message at their district office. Also you can fax them. If you use NumbersUSA to Fax or other ones, also send a fax from home if you have a home fax.
#2) Call the National Republican Senatorial Committee at (202) 675-6000 and let them know that you will not support the reelection of any Senator in 2008 who votes for the amnesty bill in the Senate.
#3) Call the Republican National Committee at 202.863.8500 (option 1) and let them know you will not support any candidate in 2008 who votes for the amnesty bill in the Senate (Incidentally, a lot of you must be doing this already because when I called about 10 minutes ago, the mailbox was full.)
Senators are admitting privately that the bill will increase the number of greencards (for permanent settlement) by 20 million over the next 13 years. Added to the number that will be given out based on current law, that means 30-35 million greencards in just the next 13 years!
To give you an idea of how radically these Senators want to change our nation and communities, consider that there are around 25 million foreign-born now living in this country who have been given green cards over the last 75 years. That number already has overwhelmed and changed thousands of communities.
But the Senate negotiators and Pres. Bush want to raise that number of greencard holders in our communities from 25 million to 60 million in just the next 13 years!
Type in Senator John McCain or your Senator’s name into google and it will often give their phone numbers. Also try adding their district office. You can also start calling or faxing your House rep against the bill and then call again later when it gets to the House.
