Vote Mark Ellmore over Amit Singh June 10 Primary Virginia

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/07/AR2008060701807.html

By Sandhya Somashekhar
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, June 8, 2008; Page C06

http://www.markellmore08.com/

http://www.amit08.com/

The Republican primary in Virginia in the 8th District, the James (Jim) Moran district, is Amit Singh v. Mark Ellmore. Amit Singh strongly supports a massive increase in legal immigration and guest worker. This includes an increase in H-1B. Some Libertarian college Republicans in favor of mass immigration like Libertarians are supporting Singh. We need conservative Republicans to turn out for Ellmore on Tuesday June 10 to vote for Ellmore and stop Singh and his H-1B visa and increased legal immigration platform.

Men’s median wages are the same as in 1973, see p60-233.pdf graph page 16. But productivity doubled since 1973. Computer jobs pay better out of college in the US still, but Bill Gates is against hiring Americans at good pay.

Women’s median wages slowed in getting closer to men’s around 1990 at 70 percent when Bush Sr increased legal immigration. Women’s wages are 77 percent of men’s today which puts them where men’s were in 1960.

If wages had doubled with productivity since 1973, then since Social Security and Medicare collect money from payroll taxes they would have twice as much cash. That would let Medicare pay full drug cost and not be so difficult to deal with. Social Security would not be in any difficulty.

(In the economy before the immigration increase of 1965, productivity and wages moved up one for one. That would have kept Social Security and Medicare solvent. We can move back towards that economy, but damage has been done that can’t be undone overnight.)

Before the 1965 Immigration Act, wages and productivity went up 1 for 1.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/29/AR2006082901042.html

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Devaluing Labor

By Harold Meyerson
Wednesday, August 30, 2006; Page A19

Labor Day is almost upon us, and like some of my fellow graybeards, I can, if I concentrate, actually remember what it was that this holiday once celebrated. Something about America being the land of broadly shared prosperity. Something about America being the first nation in human history that had a middle-class majority, where parents had every reason to think their children would fare even better than they had.

The young may be understandably incredulous, but the Great Compression, as economists call it, was the single most important social fact in our country in the decades after World War II. From 1947 through 1973, American productivity rose by a whopping 104 percent, and median family income rose by the very same 104 percent. More Americans bought homes and new cars and sent their kids to college than ever before. In ways more difficult to quantify, the mass prosperity fostered a generosity of spirit: The civil rights revolution and the Marshall Plan both emanated from an America in which most people were imbued with a sense of economic security.

That America is as dead as the dodo. Ours is the age of the Great Upward Redistribution. The median hourly wage for Americans has declined by 2 percent since 2003, though productivity has been rising handsomely.
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Please read the whole article and also please type p60-233.pdf into Google and go to the census.gov page and read the article and look at the graph on page 16 that has men and women’s median wage since 1960.

See Post next to this on John McCain Carly Fiorina and H-1B visa for more on Singh and his support of H-1B and massive immigration increases.

==Starting Salaries

starting salaries site:vdare.com

==Amit Singh on Immigration from his website:

Encouraging Legal Immigration
We need to do more to encourage legal immigration to this nation. Legal immigration, attracting the best and brightest the world over and helping them to become active members of American society, makes our economy stronger and keeps us on the cutting edge of innovation. Unfortunately, those who wish to follow the law and make our nation stronger face a complicated system and long lines which delay or deter them from becoming Americans.

Currently, we do not have enough permanent-resident visas for those who wish to live and work in the United States. The American economy and innovation are suffering because of a lack of highly educated and skilled workers. As recent studies demonstrate, foreign students who come to learn at U.S. universities are being forced to leave and take their skills to America’s economic competitors because there are not enough visas to allow them to stay and become productive members of American society. Businesses are also moving their operations to or remaining in other nations because of the lack of workers available in the United States. We need to increase the number of permanent-resident visas to strengthen our economy.

In addition, a temporary, native-based guest worker program would help reduce the incentive for and negative effects of illegal immigration, while encouraging legal immigration. U.S. employers, after demonstrating a particular need and inability to hire U.S. based employees at market wages, may be able to hire temporary workers from other nations. These workers could be taxed on their income and contribute to the American economy. Additionally, these workers would be more easily able to safely travel between their homes in foreign nations and their jobs in America. This program would reduce the incentive for undocumented workers to risk illegally bringing their families to America and placing a further burden on already strained schools and hospitals.

Immigrants working in this country should be taxed just like any other American citizen and follow the same laws. When we secure our borders and create a system that encourages legal immigration while discouraging illegal immigration, we can restore law and order, improve the fiscal condition of our public resources, strengthen the economy by increasing production, and provide a means for law abiding immigrants to achieve the American dream.

==NACE quote

http://www.naceweb.org/press/display.asp?year=2007&prid=264

CONTACT:	Andrea Koncz, ext. 121, Pattie Giordani, ext. 118, 800/544-5272 or 610/868-1421
EMAIL:	akoncz@naceweb.org or pgiordani@naceweb.org
DATE:	September 12, 2007
SUBJECT:	Year-End Report Shows Salary Gains for Class of 2007

BETHLEHEM, PA—Average starting salary offers to Class of 2007 college graduates rose in many academic fields, according to the Fall 2007 issue of Salary Survey, a quarterly report published by the National Association of Colleges and Employers (NACE). The Fall issue is NACE’s final salary report for the college Class of 2007.

“This last look at the average starting salary offers shows increases in many disciplines compared to last year’s reports,” says Marilyn Mackes, NACE executive director. “In various studies we conducted throughout the academic year, we saw that demand for many disciplines was up, which may account for the corresponding increase in starting salaries.”

For example, most business disciplines saw their offers rise over last year. Accounting majors gained 3 percent over last year for an average starting salary offer of $46,292. Business administration/management grads posted a 5.1 percent increase, bringing their average to $43,256.

Class of 2007 economics (business/managerial) and finance graduates posted average salary offers of $47,782 and $46,442, respectively. Management information systems grads received a 4.7 percent increase to their average salary offer, bringing it to $47,407. And, marketing graduates saw a healthy increase of 5.6 percent, boosting their average offer to $39,269.

Computer science grads’ average salary offer is up by 4.5 percent to $53,051. The increase for information sciences and systems graduates is even greater (5.9 percent), resulting in an average offer of $49,966.

Average offers to engineering graduates also continued to climb; in fact, nearly all the engineering disciplines posted increases. The average offer to chemical engineering grads rose 5.2 percent to $59,218. Civil engineering graduates saw their average salary offer increase by 6.3 percent, bringing it to $48,998. Electrical engineering grads received a 3.8 percent increase to advance their average offer to $55,333. And mechanical engineering grads watched their average salary offer rise by 4.3 percent to $54,057.

The news also is good for liberal arts graduates—they end this reporting year on a positive note. Every major in the broad liberal arts category saw an increase is average starting salary offers. History majors posted a 6.1 increase to their average offer, raising it to $35,092. The average offer to political science/government majors jumped 6.5 percent to $35,261. English majors saw a slight increase of 1.7 percent, inching their average salary offer to $31,924; and sociology grads’ average offer rose by 3.4 percent to $32,161.

Early indications, including preliminary results from NACE’s annual Job Outlook survey, suggest that the Class of 2008 will also enjoy a healthy job market. NACE will post its first look at the job market for the Class of 2008 in mid-September and will release its first set of salary statistics for the college Class of 2008 in February.

==End NACE

Computer Science and Engineering make 20,000 more starting than do liberal arts. Business majors also do more. Singh wants to have Indian H-1B’s and permanent residents take those jobs instead is one possible hypothesis to explain his position. Amit Singh is the same as Bill Gates on lowering the wages of American graduates is a hypothesis to consider.

How are these kids going to pay their college debt under Singh’s plan? Singh’s plan whether he wants to or not, will lower starting salaries for American tech grads 20,000 to the mid 30’s and keep them there for their entire career. That’s just plain wrong. It is what Bill Gates wants. This will leave college kids with huge debt. Liberal arts majors also may not see salary increases later in their career to let them pay off their debt. The new bankruptcy law makes it hard to ever get out of college debt.

Singh is loyal to India and Indians not Americans is a hypothesis to consider and test. He should not be a member of Congress. Singh currently works for DoD with a security clearance in Northern Virginia. But he wants to bring in H-1B’s and foreign tech workers.

This policy, whether Singh intends it or not, has the result that America’s know-how goes to India and China. Night vision know-how went to China and China sells night vision goggles for insurgents in Afghanistan and Iraq to use against our troops.

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http://www.viddler.com/explore/VoteAmit08/videos/3/

Ellmore wants to let people apply for citizenship faster. Singh supported this in the debate as well. Ellmore seems to want to speed it up less.

Singh wants to make H-1B transfer from company to company easier.

Ellmore pointed out that people going to college are seeing jobs taken by H-1B.

Singh said we have a problem with education in this country. He said we don’t have the education in our country to fill these jobs. (Singh’s father is a math professor at Virginia State University and is supposed to teach this.) Singh said H-1B visa holders don’t take jobs Americans would take because Americans are incapable of fulfilling these jobs.

Ellmore said he has a daughter at Marymount University who has to compete with them.

Singh said foreign workers are doing hard work. He said we need to have the best labor force. Ellmore said we have it in this room. Singh said recruit it around the world and that this was how we won the space race.

Overall, Singh is totally emotionally committed to unlimited H-1B and other legal immigration from India and China. He had no concern about how American college kids would repay their loans if the good jobs that pay 20,000 US dollars more than liberal arts jobs go to people from India instead of local colleges. Ellmore identified with American college kids at Virginia schools like his daughter. He recognized they have college loans to payoff. Singh did not.

==Ellmore on immigration

http://www.markellmore08.com/issues.html

Immigration and Border Control

-Secure the border today by building a fence and adding more US Border Patrol Agents
-No Amnesty and impose harsher penalties on businesses that violate rules

Mark Ellmore says the first step to solving illegal immigration is to secure the borders. He supports using technology and more personnel along the borders to enforce the law.
Mark does not support an amnesty program and he supports everyone that adheres to the legal entry process. He will fight to impose harsher penalties on companies that employee illegal immigrants.

http://blacknell.net/dynamic/2008/05/29/interview-with-candidate-mark-ellmore-8th-cd-part-iii/

Ellmore supports some sort of legalization for illegals.

http://www.amit08.com/issues/immigration.jsp

It seems that Singh supports some sort of legalization as well. But its not clear. Singh appears to favor legal immigration from India over illegals from Mexico.

==During the debate someone from audience wanted more H-1B visas. Ellmore said no. The person pressed him hard. The audience person wanted the US to take every H-1B visa type person going to Europe and bring them here. They then gave a C- to D answer on economics. They said firms would leave America because it didn’t bring H-1B’s here from Europe. He was almost saying that all software firms would leave America and not employ any programmers here because Europe was taking H-1B equivalents from India. This is a contradiction in terms.

If the H-1B is restricted, then software employment will still rise in the U.S. as new graduates come in and older workers are re-hired. Even if employment goes up in Europe, that will not lead companies to stop employing people here. In addition, with no immigration, non-programmers will be able to get training and program here. That is what happened from the invention of the computer. Even today, non programming graduates pick up programming and do programming.

There is also a strange mentality of knowing some application as a requirement for a job instead of hiring programmers and having them learn a new application. The latter is the way it used to be almost all the time. Its only because of H-1B’s from India that employers can say you have to know some particular program instead of general programming skills being all that is needed. We need to go back to that old way and drop this idea of having to know a laundry list of recent applications.

The audience person pushing this might have been foreign or at least non-white. He didn’t have any concern for students or people. His only concern was the companies. This seemed strange.

Overall, the candidates are not packed with data on immigration, jobs, wages, etc. This is likely typical of members of Congress as well. We really need people to learn the numbers. Everyone needs to learn that men’s median wages are the same as in 1973 but productivity has doubled. There are many other facts like this showing the impact of immigration. Immigration causes genetic extinction is a published theorem, the Wright Island Model. That needs to be known and discussed. See below:

http://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/population-genetics-island-model-one-way-migration/

Amit Singh’s H-1B visa support is discussed more in the following post past the middle.

http://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/john-mccain-makes-carly-fiorina-head-of-h-1b-visa/

Despite its name, the following is mostly links to data sources on wages, jobs, etc.

http://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/a-nation-of-lou-dobbs-democrats/

Also data discussed here and the impact of immigration on keeping women’s wages from reaching those of men:

http://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/category/women-labor-economics/

Men’s median wages are the same as in 1973 and women’s are 77 percent of men’s although productivity doubled. Social Security and Medicare get their money from payroll taxes. If wages had doubled for men in line with productivity, women’s wages would have at least doubled and Social Security and Medicare would have had twice as much money.

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If immigration was cut to 25,000 per year and illegals sent home what would happen? Would wages start going up 2.5 percent per year like productivity? Well productivity would rise faster as business invested more in labor saving. So wages would go up faster as productivity did. But this is not all.

Productivity doubled since 1973. Its there already. We don’t have to wait for it in the future. But wages stayed the same since 1973. If legal immigration was cut to 25,000 per year and illegals sent home, then there would be nothing to keep wages from catching up with past productivity changes. Wages could double within a few years, maybe 5.

(This has to be revised. The total of labor income could not double, but wages would clearly adjust upwards with no immigration.)

This is what Bill Gates is worried about. That is why the big bosses are pushing money at Congress to keep immigration going. They aren’t desperate to keep future productivity increases to themselves. They are desperate to keep the past ones they stole since 1973 to themselves. That is 35 years of theft, an entire career for many people. It was a career in the old days when productivity increases were passed on in worker salaries.

Some college Republicans may have delusions they will be big bosses and can stick it to workers. But the reality is, very few will. Most will be stuck with big college debt. They will go on to law school or business school and add more debt. Medical school may be out of sight and may also exclude many Americans who didn’t get a science degree in college. Thus our kids are squeezed out of the future.

If wages did rise substantially over 5 years, this would alleviate some of the mortgage crisis. It would also pull us out of depression. It would also give people the money to pay for gas at the current high prices. Many college grads are stuck with high debt because the big salaries they hoped for didn’t come.

This is why fertility is below replacement. We were afraid to be called bigots, so our children or grandchildren don’t have children themselves. But we can still save some of the future and the present for our children by reducing legal immigration to 25,000 per year and sending all illegals home. This also means no guest worker programs like H-1B. It means no stealth amnesties like Ag Jobs.

Amit Singh, George Bush, John McCain, Bill Gates, etc. don’t want to save the people paying high gas prices or losing their homes. They advocate policies to keep them down. Mark Ellmore in the debate said his daughter was graduating from Marymount University in Fredericksburg, Virginia. He knows she is hitting the real world. We need politicians who understand that. We need politicians who feel they are one with us and care for us.

If we stop legal immigration to 25,000 we can increase wages, save Social Security and Medicare, give seniors drugs, and people can pay high gas prices and stay in their homes. The only ones saying no are those for immigration above 25,000 per year and some form of legalization. Vote Mark Ellmore instead of those against progress for people.

==June 10, 2008 Output per hour, Social Security etc.

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Series Id: PRS84006093
Duration: index, 1992 = 100
Measure: Output Per Hour
Sector: Business

PRS84006093,1973,Annual,73.410

PRS84006093,2007,Annual,138.957

Thus output per hour by this measure almost doubled from 1973 to 2007.

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/outside.jsp?survey=pr

Select business, output per hour, and index. Then click on Add to Your Selection.

Then click on Get Data. You can get formatting options later. I selected only annual data and csv data. I copied that into a text file and then recopied it into this.

More info and note from Andrew Biggs here:

http://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/social-security-indexed-to-wages-but-wages-same-as-1973/

http://andrewgbiggs.blogspot.com/

http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/AWI.html

The above is opinion, hypotheses or speculation. Please restate all statements as questions. No disparagement of Singh or Ellmore as individuals is to be taken. Both of them have many accomplishments and contributions. All other disclaimers apply. This is draft and preliminary. Comments and corrections welcome.