A proper ticket has a more experienced president than Vice president. The John McCain Sarah Palin ticket is that way. An improper one is reversed. That is the Barack Hussein Obama II and Joseph Biden Jr. ticket.
If we think of the Republican as on the y-axis and Democrat on x-axis, we have a situation where the Republican ticket is right and Democratic wrong on the experience gradient from VP to P.
We can imagine each ticket as being in alignment or not along its axis and then we get a combination of the two. The Republican ticket dominates the Democratic ticket in the way experience is distributed within the ticket. So this is a star combination for Republicans, they are right and Democrats wrong.
All the columns about Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin comparisons miss the point that Obama is inexperienced and his only basis on the ticket is to pander based on his race and identity.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dee-dee-myers/sarah-palin-the-double-x_b_122447.html
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/29/151144/234
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Wasserman_Schultz_McCain_VP_pick_shows_0829.html
http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:090b7aeff850c5dda848d5b9e75bb16d:40dd80fd811086e827cfc147945d29ad
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Conventions/story?id=5686244&page=1
http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2008/08/good-for-gop-good-for-us.html
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/011295.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/29/AR2008082902273_Comments.html#
PUMA for McCain Palin, Texas Darlin supports the pick
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-mccain-vp/
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http://chronicle.com/blogs/election/2373/mccains-pick-of-sarah-palin?commented=1#c007432
Comment:
A lot of great and unique comments here. Teachers are smarter than they are given credit for. Maybe we should have teachers question the candidates. I particularly like the point that we have an experience/inexperience inversion on the Democratic ticket.
VP is supposed to be young and inexperienced relative to P in most situations.
If Palin is pandering to identity politics, what is Obama? If Obama was a white guy, he wouldn’t have been president of Harvard Law Review, or likely even gone to Harvard. Nor would he have been given his book deal because of it. Nor would Bill Ayers have promoted his career to stick it to us with a black nationalist. That’s Obama’s real experience that counts, as a Hyde Park radical on the South Side of Chicago. Vote for that person if you vote for him. Dems will make the point that Obama is inexperienced by attacking Palin. Its hard to imagine McCain is that shrewd, but he might be.
==Dems are saying
Don’t vote for McCain, because
- His VP pick is as inexperienced as Obama
- Like Obama his VP pick would never have gotten on any ticket except for his identity.
- Like Obama, this is pure pandering on race and gender.
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OldAtlantic wrote:
Obama’s foreign policy experience:
Ayers and Dohrn launch his career probably starting in the 1980’s and they are still covering up. Ayers and Dohrn’s Weather Undergound bombed the Capitol and Pentagon.
Black Nationalist church of Rev Wright that Obama had to leave in the middle of the election.
Citizen of Indonesia
Traveled to Pakistan in 1981 possibly on Indonesian Passport with Indonesian KTP Muslim identity card.
Joined Muslim faction of his cousin Odinga in 2006 Kenya election to impose Sharia law on Kenya.
Disarm US of nuclear weapons.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/29/AR2008082903558_Comments.html
in 10th page of comments if number page 1 as first in chrono order. WP uses reverse page numbers but then the page numbers change as total number of pages change.
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http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/30/palin_thanks_her_online_suppor.html
Obama: young, inexperienced, always got advancement based on identity. Admitted to Harvard for being black. Pres H Law Rev for being black. Elected South Side Chicago for being black. Keynote speaker 2004 for being black. Won caucus votes in 2008 for picking Axelrod to stuff the ballot.
Obama is afraid to release his files from Indonesia and Hawaii and US and Indonesian Passport Offices. At least Palin didn’t go to Pakistan in 1981 on an Indonesian Passport with an Indonesian KTP Muslim identity card.
Posted by: Old Atlantic | August 30, 2008 2:03 PM
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“We know Barack Obama from 20 months of campaigning and media scrutiny.”
Iwakiri | August 30, 2008 2:33 PM
Sorry my friend, Obama won’t release his Hawaii birth files, tell us what hospital he was born at, release his school and religious records from Indonesia, release his Indonesian and US passport records, answer an affidavit to the Berg lawsuit in Philadelphia on all questions raised including whether he traveled to Pakistan in 1981 using an Indonesian passport.
Obama turned down Federal clerkships in 1991 because he had to pass a FBI background check. Was he hiding that he gave up US citizenship in 1981 by using an Indonesian passport to travel to Pakistan?
Obama has covered up when he met Ayers, Dohrn, what he heard from or said to Rev Wright, Frank Marshall Davis, and so many others we can’t keep track of.
August 30, 2008 at 5:10 pm
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September 1, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Let’s see…an ex-beauty pagent winner…with a undergraduate degree in jounalism…who does not believe in global warming…who does believe a woman should have no control over her own body and for 9 months should be viewed as nothing more than a baby container…who’s main attributes seem to be stubborness and vicious competiveness… who has had next to no experience in goverment…who has a currently very messy family situation given that she had recently given birth to a downs syndrome baby, has a 17 year old daughter who is unwed and pregnant and is facing investigation for using her political office to smear her ex-brother-in-law and get him fired (he is in a custody battle with her sister)…who seems to be in bed with big oil…who is running for VP…whose running mate is 72 and is a cancer survivor…who has no foreign policy background and in fact has only been out of the country twice…who may become President of the country I love at a time when it faces the most complex foreign policy issues, economic issues and domestic issues it has in decades…Why does this sound like a totally unbelievably bad novel???? I for one am terrified and can not understand what Mr. McCain was thinking!!! If this is an example of his judgment….
September 2, 2008 at 4:07 am
I often wonder what is wrong with conservatives in this country. Rebecca, I appreciate your comment but I fear it is only falling on deaf ears. Conservatives don’t listen to logic. I’ve come to that conclusion. You say that “liberals” are negative, but yet you only repeat the same vitriolic rhetoric that is dispelled by FOX News, or worse, the propagandist emails that spread outright lies. I know, most of you think you have some foundations in politics simply because you read a little bit here and there, but I challenge any so called conservative to tell me he is not a proponent of neoliberalism. If your answer is no, and you are sure of it, can you honestly tell me you disagree with Ronald Reagan? If so then so much the better, but the fact of the matter is most conservatives don’t even know what neoliberalism is.