http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/petshealth/6210374/Supercats-that-may-still-be-too-wild-for-a-family-home.html

By Jasper Copping
Published: 9:53PM BST 19 Sep 2009

Mild-mannered moggies are increasingly being replaced by new breeds in which African or South American wildcats have been crossbred with domestic cats.

Despite price-tags of up to £6,000 for new kittens, breeders report waiting lists of up to six months.

Despite price-tags of up to £6,000 for new kittens, employers like Microsoft report waiting lists of up to six months.

In Britain, the “first generation” of savannah and safari cats descended from wildcats can only be kept under licence and in outdoor cages, in accordance with the Dangerous Wild Animals Act (DWAA). Subsequent generations, however, can be kept as normal pets.

The breeds are not recognised by the Governing Council of the Cat Fancy, the feline equivalent of the Kennel Club. John Hansson, its chairman, said: “Our policy dictates that we should not be recognising any more breeds that have actual wildcats in their background because of the instability and the element of the unknown.”

Peter Neville, an expert in pet behaviour from the Feline Advisory Bureau (FAB), said: “Cats are predators. I wouldn’t be happy with a savannah around a small child, because of their genes and their size.

“They are going to do a lot more damage than a normal domestic cat. Their paws are bigger, they are stronger and they will bite deeper. Just because you can tame one, doesn’t mean you can tame all.”

Claire Bessant, from the FAB, said: “This is a scary trend. The savannah is a big cat that is close to the wild. We are introducing something that is likely to have issues and it worries me a lot.”

An RSPCA spokesman said: “The savannah cat is likely to exhibit a range of temperamental characteristics from both domestic cats and the wildcat species, and as such could prove to be dangerous.”

Beth Skillings, from Cats Protection, said: “Any new wildcat hybrid is likely to retain traits related to its wildcat ancestry.”

What do their owners say?

Nicola Yates, of Corfe Mullen, Dorset, owns a “second generation” savannah, Annie, which does not need to be kept under the DWAA.

“She is noticeably bigger than other cats, but I don’t have any more safety concerns than I would with any cat,” she said. “If your cat is brought up to be aggressive – through abuse or neglect – then any cat, even a moggy, can turn into something quite savage.

“Obviously, if that happens with a bigger cat, then you have bigger teeth to consider.”

http://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/obama-gives-whites-finger-metaphorically/

Obama calling Palin a pig:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utHZ7zYytLk

You can drag it to second 48 and see him put his hand over his forehead when he implies Sarah Palin is a pig.  That’s with him saying the words.
Obama giving McCain the finger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnEhmbKazdw

Obama giving Hillary the finger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoOFp-RDpvM

Fox covers the school bus attack of blacks on a white boy

http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/26435619/brutal-bus-beating.htm

“FOX News: School Bus Beating Bullies to Face Adult Charges?”

Same video as above on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TB4mqC0aE8

South Africa white farm murders

http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID=47276&

TV report on South Africa farm murders

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S71PbichSw

Gaynor Jean-Louis, a cat breeder from Bromsgrove, in Worcestershire, owns a “first generation” safari cat, Mystique, which is covered by the DWAA.

“I don’t consider her in the slightest bit dangerous,” she said. “She looks like a wild thing, but if you interact with her, she is very domestic.”

“Sky News report on racist farm murders in South Africa”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2E9oz4dfLs

Victims believe these are orchestrated government program to force whites off farms.  Like Obamacare to transfer health care from whites to non-whites.

What can you do?  Stop covering up for third worlders.  Stop saying we invite immigrants.  Immigrants are not here to help you, they are here to replace you.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1213928&blobtype=pdf

We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.

US government is replacing you.  USG is US genocide.  USGG US government genocide.

USGGS US government genocide service.  USGS, US Genocide Service.  Stop supporting the USGS by voting for Democrats or Republicans like John McCain or Lindsey Graham.  Don’t vote for Romney, he is for the above white farm murders to happen here.  Romney is a Stepfort White at best and intentionally evil at worst.  If the facts are everywhere, how can he not be intentionally evil?

Harvard Crimson

By RAUL PENARANDA

“Several economic studies have demonstrated that illegal immigrants—an estimated 12 million work without official permits in the U.S.—contribute far more to the U.S. economy than they take away from it.”

Reread the theorem above.

http://www.ocs.fas.harvard.edu/employers/factsheet.htm

Whites non Hispanic are 48 percent of Harvard undergraduates.  Subtract the 30 percent Jewish and you have 18 percent non-Jewish whites.

http://reformjudaismmag.org/_kd/Items/actions.cfm?action=Show&item_id=1278&destination=ShowItem

30 percent of Harvard undergrads are Jewish leaving 18 percent as NJ whites.  Affirmative action matters.

Harvard is bringing the White Farm Murders to the video you saw above of the school bus attack.  They are the fast track.  They are the ones writing the rules.

Internet Applicant Recordkeeping rule

http://www.dol.gov/esa/ofccp/regs/compliance/faqs/iappfaqs.htm

What is the purpose of the Internet Applicant final rule?

The Internet Applicant final rule, issued by the Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs (OFCCP), addresses recordkeeping by Federal contractors and subcontractors about the Internet hiring process and the solicitation of race, gender, and ethnicity of “Internet Applicants.” The rule is the product of a lengthy deliberative process, including public input, to develop a definition of “Internet Applicant” applicable in the Internet age (added to 41 CFR 60-1.3). The recordkeeping requirements of the rule (amending 41 CFR 60-1.12) will provide meaningful data that OFCCP will use to enhance its enforcement of the nondiscrimination laws.

http://www.dol.gov/esa/ofccp/Presentation/Applicant%20Rule%20Presentation_files/frame.htm

White farm murders don’t happen overnight.  They happen from not doing anything.  They happen from waiting for someone else to do anything.  The school bus attack video shows we are well on the way to this violence against whites to being normal.  Obama giving the finger to whites and calling whites pigs and white police officers stupid is part of that.  Obama incited the hate attack on Sarah Palin.  Obama giving the finger and Obama calling the officer, Sergeant James Crowley, stupid were meant to instigate hate attacks on whites.  Its the same a the South African government being behind the white farm murders.

The government is behind the white farm murders in South Africa.  The government is behind genetic replacement immigration in the US.  The government is behind desegregated buses which automatically lead to the school bus attacks and other violence against whites.  Blacks will gang up on whites when given the chance, anywhere and anytime.  Whites are not safe around them. That is why whites need separation and segregation from blacks as a civil right.

http://www.dol.gov/esa/ofccp/regs/compliance/aa.htm

Operation of the Executive Order Program. The EEO Clause
Each contracting agency in the Executive Branch of government must include the equal opportunity clause in each of its nonexempt government contracts. The equal opportunity clause requires that the contractor will take affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed, and that employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, color, religion, sex or national origin. American Indian or Alaskan Native, Asian or Pacific Islander, Black, and Hispanic individuals are considered minorities for purposes of the Executive Order.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1213928&blobtype=pdf

We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.

By applying affirmative action to immigrants and to all people of a race not just those who were slaves, the DOL regulation works with the WIM math to cause mathematically the genocide of whites.  This is its intent.

The Immigration Vanishing Survival Theorem says that if the process is such that the survival rates of the genes are comparable, then immigration causes automatic genocide of those here.  The DOL regulations enforce the equality of survival probabilities.  (Actually in effect make white survival probabilities lower.) Together with the immigration this then causes the genocide of whites as a mathematical certainty.

If the flow is unbounded from above, and the survival probability of the flow and the stock here are the same then the probabilities and the ex-post survival factors must both asymptote to zero for the flow and the stock.  In this case, the whites are in effect just in the stock so they go extinct.  Mixing just makes the extinction of genes starting in whites more certain.  DOL Regulations prevent whites from having a higher survival probability than the non-white immigrants.  The DOL regulations are not limited to descendants of slaves in US but cover all immigrants.  Thus the DOL regulations prevent the one out whites might have, to have higher survival probabilities. This means their total extinction is a mathematical certainty.

http://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/category/immigration-vanishing-survival-theorem/

The people writing the rules at DOL are the non-whites graduating from Harvard.  They are hired as the fast track at DOL to be the bosses.  With Harvard degrees they are set over whites at DOL and they determine the rules.  Even if the whites under them have to write them and enforce them.  In that sense, its worse than the white farm murders.  Whites do the work of genociding whites under DOL rules.

Two people were just canvassing at my door in Northern Virginia for Obama, this is a Saturday, midday.  They were both female. One was a short woman of Hispanic native American stock, central American.   The other was East Asian, tall and thin and young, and hardly able to speak English it seemed.  One wonders if they are even eligible to vote.  Illegals for Obama?  Certainly for the end of America as a white Western civilized country.

They were pushing Obama for the AFL-CIO.

They had a yellow flyer from Working America as the name of their group.  See

http://www.workingamerica.org/

Search “Working America” AFL-CIO

The flyer says Obama “Will protect our jobs.”

How is that?  The immigrants going door to door are taking our jobs and have not protected our wages.

Men’s median wages are the same as in 1973 and women’s are what men’s were before 1960.  See graph page 19:

http://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf

The labor force participation rates of white and black men were 80 percent in 1965 and are now down to around 74 and 67 percent.  Male teens for both groups have seen an even faster fall in labor force participation rates.  We are now entering a bailout recession engineered by the same crowd that brought them here to keep our wages down and take our jobs.

Search:

historical labor force participation rates white men black men

The AFL-CIO is working against jobs and against wages.  They have sold out workers and are liars.  So are the press.  So are the schools.

See Ian Jobling

http://inverted-world.com/index.php/articles/articles/immigration_krikorian/

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http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1213928&blobtype=pdf

We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.

http://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/population-genetics-island-model-one-way-migration/

“President Renewing Efforts on Immigration Plan for Overhaul Faces Battle in Divided Congress”

By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, April 9, 2007; Page A01

See comments by Patrick Cleburne at

Problem for Amnesty: Troops unwilling.

Follow up WaPo Article

Bush Pushes Immigration Plan, Guest Worker Program

By Michael A. Fletcher
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, April 9, 2007; 3:36 PM
Comments at Follow Up article
==Comments original WaPo article posted at WaPo below

What follows is a mess. Its notes while posting comments at WaPo on the Bush immigration speech. In some cases, the links that were used to source quotes are included. But these are not formatted as live links at this point.
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Men’s median wages peaked in 1973. See p60-231.pdf a publication of the census at census.gov. Search on p60-231.pdf is enough. Income inequality is U shaped in the 20th century. Search on “u shaped” income inequality Thomas Piketty, Emmanuel Saez. Saez is a Berkeley prof. He has data to download from his website. They have an NBER paper. They find that the top 1 percent got 20 percent of national income before immigration restriction in the 1920’s, they got 10 percent after and then after the 1965 Immigration Act, legal immigration, it has gone back up to 20 percent. Search NEW DATA SHOW EXTRAORDINARY JUMP IN INCOME CONCENTRATION IN 2004
By Aviva Aron-Dine and Isaac Shapiro to see a graph of the percentage share of national income of the top 1 percent. The Bush family is in the top 1 percent. So are Kennedy and McCain. So is Sheikh Pelosi.

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quote Mr. Luntz is 80 percent right. The richest 20 percent of American households—and only the richest 20 percent—have enjoyed higher real incomes during the Bush expansion. Everyone else has lost ground; the lowest 20 percent has actually lost a full 1.8 percent. (For details, click here: Table 1.) end quote September 26, 2006
National Data, By Edwin S. Rubenstein
It’s Official: Immigration Causing Income Inequality
at Vdare.com

http://www.vdare.com/rubenstein/060926_nd.htm

==Edwin S. Rubenstein quotation:

Until recently, economists rarely mentioned the I-word when explaining the income distribution. The consensus among most academics was that the primary cause of increased inequality was “skill-biased technical change” (SBTC)—i.e., increased economic rewards to educated, technically savvy workers.

In a word, SBTC compensation was based on merit. How quaint!

Northwestern University economists Ian Dew-Becker and Robert J. Gordon broke from the group naiveté in a paper published last year:

“If SBTC had been a major source of the rise in inequality, then we should have observed an increase in relative wages of those most directly skilled in the development and use of computers. Yet in the 1989-97 period….total real compensation of CEOs increased by 100 percent, while those in occupations related to math and computer science increased only 4.8 percent and engineers decreased by 1.4 percent.” [Where did the Productivity Growth Go? Inflation Dynamics and the Distribution of Income, (PDF) Ian Dew-Becker and Robert J. Gordon, Northwestern University]

http://www.vdare.com/rubenstein/060926_nd.htm

==quotation Edwin S. Rubenstein:

quote In debunking SBTC the authors make a broader historical point regarding immigration:

“To be convincing, a theory must fit the facts, and the basic facts to be explained about income equality are not one but two, that is, not only why inequality rose after the mid-1970s but why it declined from 1929 to the mid-1970s. Three events fit neatly into this U-shaped pattern, all of which influence the effective labor supply curve and the bargaining power of labor: (1) the rise and fall of unionization, (2) the decline and recovery of immigration, and (3) the decline and recovery in the importance of international trade and the share of imports…”

“Partly as a result of restrictive legislation in the 1920s, and also the Great Depression and World War II, the share of immigration per year in the total population declined from 1.3 percent in 1914 to 0.02 percent in 1933, remained very low until a gradual recovery began in the late 1960s, reaching 0.48 percent (legal and illegal) in 2002. Competition for unskilled labor not only arrives in the form of immigration but also in the form of imports, and the decline of the import share from the 1920s to the 1950s and its subsequent recovery is a basic fact of the national accounts.” end quote. September 26, 2006
National Data, By Edwin S. Rubenstein
It’s Official: Immigration Causing Income Inequality Vdare.com

http://www.vdare.com/rubenstein/060926_nd.htm

==quotation Edwin S. Rubenstein:

quote But the foreign-born share of the labor force—15 percent in 2005—is also unprecedented. Since 2001 illegals have accounted for most of immigrant labor force growth.

Cheap immigrant labor induces only a nugatory increase in total native income. Its biggest impact, according to Harvard economist George Borjas, is to redistribute income from native workers to employers.

Recent data seem to confirm this. The construction industry is booming, home builders are racking up record profits, yet average construction wages have fallen between 15 percent and 35 percent across the country—the result of cheap immigrant labor.

Similarly, the service industries—restaurants, hotels, motels, cleaning companies, etc. – are major employers of immigrant labor. These industries are booming, creating wealth for executives and shareholders. But average real wages of service industry workers have declined since 2001. end quote April 06, 2006
National Data, By Edwin S. Rubenstein
The Smoking Bottom Line: Immigration Boosting Profits, Cutting Wages Vdare.com

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http://www.vdare.com/walker/dui.htm

quote Traditionally, drinking to excess is valued in Mexican and Latin culture, where it is seen an expression of machismo. Moreover, MADD reports that Hispanics believe it takes 6-8 drinks to affect driving, while Americans think it takes 2-4 drinks.

In 2001, according to MADD, 44.1 percent of California’s drunk driving arrests in 2001 were of Hispanics, although Hispanics made up only 31.3 percent of the state’s population.

The general incidence of drunk driving has worsened in California—parallel with the skyrocketing Latino population. Accidents involving drunk drivers increased overall nearly 5 percent in the state in 2000, with an uptick in Los Angeles County of 7.6 percent in that year. Motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for Hispanics ages 1-44. end quote Brenda Walker Vdare.com

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quote THE MIDDLE CLASS IS NOT BEING WIPED OUT, THIS ASSERTION IS NONSENSE, the unemployment rate is 5 percent and wages are rising. We are not going to deport 12 million people, without creating a police state that people woud never support.

By RealChoices | Apr 9, 2007 6:56:50 AM | end quote. Men’s median wages are lower than in 1973. See p60-231.pdf graph page 18 at census.gov. Just search on p60-231 in google.

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L.A. Blackout
Acting on orders from the Mexican Mafia, Latino gang members in Southern California are terrorizing and killing blacks.
by Brentin Mock Southern Poverty Love Center.

quote “The way I hear these knuckleheads tell it, they don’t want their neighborhoods infested with blacks, as if it’s an infestation,” says respected Los Angeles gang expert Tony Rafael, who interviewed several Latino street gang leaders for an upcoming book on the Mexican Mafia, the dominant Latino gang in Southern California. “It’s pure racial animosity that manifests itself in a policy of a major criminal organization.”

“There’s absolutely no motive absent the color of their skin,” adds former Los Angeles County Deputy District Attorney Michael Camacho. Before he became a judge, in 2003, Camacho successfully prosecuted a Latino gang member for the random shootings of three black men in Pomona, Calif. end quote

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June 05, 2006
Time To Rethink Immigration (II): Freeing America From The Immigration Gulag

By Peter Brimelow
quote Moratorium on legal immigration. Not no gross immigration but no net immigration—which would permit an inflow of 200,000 a year or so, enough to take care of hardship cases, needed skills etc. Abandon the principle of “family reunification,” which in practice has meant uncontrollable chain migration. Immigrants should be admitted on own merits.

bullet Abolish “refugee” category. In practice, this is simply an expedited, subsidized immigration program for politically-favored groups. Anyway, humanitarian aid is best given in situ—for example, the “Somali Bantu” could have been resettled in Mozambique, not Maine. America is not the world’s Kleenex. end quote June 05, 2006
Time To Rethink Immigration (II): Freeing America From The Immigration Gulag

By Peter Brimelow Vdare.com

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Immigration, legal, amnesty, refugee, means the end of social security, medicare, medicaid, functional schools, ERs, and health insurance at work. Men’s median wages were higher in 1973, see p60-231.pdf at census.gov, graph page 18. The reason they cut health benefits is the same reason, to cut our wages. Government can’t afford what we don’t make. We can’t have national health insurance for the 3rd world. We are losing our health coverage by legal immigration. We must have zero immigration to save our way of life.

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Bush is disloyal to the American people.

..

Bush: America is an idea not people. The American
people can be discarded in the dustbin of history.

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Bush what matters is the idea of freedom, not the people
who want to be free, they can be discarded as refuse.

Iraq was for freedom as an idea, Abu Ghraib was for the actual people. Bushism is Stalinism. Believe in Bush and you will be free in Stalin.

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Bush’s Iraq promise was for freedom as an idea. Bush’s Abu Ghraib was for the actual people.

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http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=722

Brentin Mock continued
quote A comprehensive study of hate crimes in Los Angeles County released by the University of Hawaii in 2000 concluded that while the vast majority of hate crimes nationwide are not committed by members of organized groups, Los Angeles County is a different story. Researchers found that in areas with high concentrations, or “clusters,” of hate crimes, the perpetrators were typically members of Latino street gangs who were purposely targeting blacks.

Furthermore, the study found, “There is strong evidence of race-bias hate crimes among gangs in which the major motive is not the defense of territorial boundaries against other gangs, but hatred toward a group defined by racial identification, regardless of any gang-related territorial threat.”
Six years later, the racist terror campaign continues. end quote

SPLC L.A. Blackout
Acting on orders from the Mexican Mafia, Latino gang members in Southern California are terrorizing and killing blacks.
by Brentin Mock

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=722

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Don’t protect politicians who commit crimes. They are disloyal to us on immigration. Let Bush go to jail for torture. Let Kennedy go to jail for Chappaquiddick. These politicians have a long list of suspect transactions. If you have even a little information send it to groups that forward information on crime or Judicial Watch or blog it anonymously. You don’t have to be a hero and go into the FBI. Turn your information over to organizations that go after politicians. You don’t have to tell your boss. There are tipster organizations you can contact.

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quote The question is asked, who will pick the fruits and vegetables, who will do the construction jobs, who will do the jobs in the service industry? Which in turn begs the question, who owns the farms, who is having the house built, who owns the hotel and the restraunt? And the answer is the rich, the upper 10 who exploit these illegals,who are just trying to have a better way of life. If these people were made to pay better wages then maybe a lot more people could have a better way of life

By johnleebowes | Apr 9, 2007 10:41:40 AM | end quote. Put employers of illegals in prison and they can pick the fruit on a chain gang. What about politicians who vote the way they get contributions. They will want to have a jury decide if they did right, won’t they? To clear their name?

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Jack Abramoff can probably fill the farms with chain gang pols from his contribution rolodex. And he isn’t the only one. The K street gang documented by the Post can fill our farms with their labor.

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quote Jose Alonso Compean and Ignacio Ramos, were sentenced to 12 years and 11 years, respectively, in October by U.S. District Court Judge Kathleen Cardone end quote WND. Members of Congress and Senators and lobbyists will want juries to determine if the contributions they gave for earmarks were bribery, won’t they? They will want to clear their name before their constituents? If border guards go to jail for dangerous work, shouldn’t Senators who take money from special interests face the people on a jury?

“u shaped” income inequality Thomas Piketty, Emmanuel Saez
http://www.vdare.com/walker/dui.htm

May 04, 2004
Diversity Is Strength! It’s Also…Drunk Driving

By Brenda Walker

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2007040801260&start=181

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-harbor4mar04,0,5714315.story?coll=la-home-headlines

How a community imploded
L.A. long ignored Harbor Gateway. Now a Latino gang calls the shots.
By Sam Quinones, Times Staff Writer
March 4, 2007

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Thomas Piketty

http://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2007/03/15/mccain-fighting-to-recapture-maverick-spirit-of-2000-bid/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/03/AR2007030300841.html

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April 08, 2007

NOTE: PLEASE say if you DON’T want your name and/or email address published when sending VDARE email.

04/07/07 – A Jewish Immigration Dissident Advises David Orland Not To Hold His Breath
Today’s Letter: A Reader Experiences Censorship

Re: LAPD: “We Don’t Get Into” Immigration Status Of Christmas Story Director’s Killer By Nicholas Stix

From: An “Irate Reader”

http://www.vdare.com/letters/tl_040807.htm
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“u shaped” site:vdare.com

http://elsa.berkeley.edu/~saez/

http://www.nber.org/papers/W8467

http://www.cbpp.org/7-10-06inc.htm

http://www.vdare.com/rubenstein/060926_nd.htm

http://www.vdare.com/rubenstein/060406_nd.htm

http://www.vdare.com/pb/060605_gulag.htm

http://www.vdare.com/bulletins/031907_bulletin.htm

http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2007/03/04/mexican-gangs-ethnic-cleansing-of-black-amercans-in-los-angeles/

Duane Chapman bounty hunter mexico

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/dog-bounty-hunter-star-duane-chapman-arrested-for-capture-1009823.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duane_Chapman

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m.jagger | Apr 9, 2007 11:38:04 AM is right. Also, as others pointed out, illegals here and those who would come here can make their own countries better rather than keeping us from having children by taking away job security for young adults. Think of all the children not born to Americans since Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act because men’s median wages stopped going up in 1973. quote ==

“Numbers Drop for the Married With Children
Institution Becoming The Choice of the Educated, Affluent”

By Blaine Harden
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, March 4, 2007; Page A03

PORTLAND, Ore. — Punctuating a fundamental change in American family life, married couples with children now occupy fewer than one in every four households — a share that has been slashed in half since 1960 and is the lowest ever recorded by the census.

As marriage with children becomes an exception rather than the norm, social scientists say it is also becoming the self-selected province of the college-educated and the affluent.

“The culture is shifting, and marriage has almost become a luxury item, one that only the well educated and well paid are interested in,” said Isabel V. Sawhill, an expert on marriage and a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.

Many demographers peg the rise of a class-based marriage gap to the erosion since 1970 of the broad-based economic prosperity that followed World War II. end quote

The 1965 Immigration Act caused this. Men’s median wages are down from 1973. Search p60-229.pdf and go to page 14 on census.gov. 51 percent of women live alone. This is because men don’t make enough.Female fertility is then below replacement.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2007040801260&start=201

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quote *Mens median wages peaked in 1973. See p60-231.pdf a publication of the census at census.gov. Search on p60-231.pdf is enough.* What OldAtlantic never mentions is wages of women have rising considerably and more than made up for the drop in the wages of men. These trends have very little to illegal immigration. end quote quote Until recently, economists rarely mentioned the I-word when explaining the income distribution. The consensus among most academics was that the primary cause of increased inequality was “skill-biased technical change” (SBTC)—i.e., increased economic rewards to educated, technically savvy workers.

In a word, SBTC compensation was based on merit. How quaint!

Northwestern University economists Ian Dew-Becker and Robert J. Gordon broke from the group naiveté in a paper published last year:

“If SBTC had been a major source of the rise in inequality, then we should have observed an increase in relative wages of those most directly skilled in the development and use of computers. Yet in the 1989-97 period….total real compensation of CEOs increased by 100 percent, while those in occupations related to math and computer science increased only 4.8 percent and engineers decreased by 1.4 percent.” [Where did the Productivity Growth Go? Inflation Dynamics and the Distribution of Income, (PDF) Ian Dew-Becker and Robert J. Gordon, Northwestern University] end quote September 26, 2006
National Data, By Edwin S. Rubenstein
It’s Official: Immigration Causing Income Inequality

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Second post has a different quotation from Vdare on U shaped timing show that share of top 1 percent, the Bush Pelosi McCain Kennedy group, went from 20 percent before 1920’s restriction to 10 percent during restriction back to 20 percent with legal immigration. This shows its legal and illegal immigration that is the cause of men’s median wages being below 1973. Sorry if 2nd post above looks like the same post over again, but the reply is different. Also thanks to Pacthed | Apr 9, 2007 12:14:00 PM | for his research and insights in replying to this, that the rise in women’s wages is simply creating men and women living apart with no kids or a single parent with kids. In fact, the Post has reported on that several times. 51 percent of women live without a spouse. Married with kids is the privilege of the affluent according to Post reporting. quote “Numbers Drop for the Married With Children
Institution Becoming The Choice of the Educated, Affluent”

By Blaine Harden
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, March 4, 2007; Page A03

PORTLAND, Ore. — Punctuating a fundamental change in American family life, married couples with children now occupy fewer than one in every four households — a share that has been slashed in half since 1960 and is the lowest ever recorded by the census.

As marriage with children becomes an exception rather than the norm, social scientists say it is also becoming the self-selected province of the college-educated and the affluent.

“The culture is shifting, and marriage has almost become a luxury item, one that only the well educated and well paid are interested in,” said Isabel V. Sawhill, an expert on marriage and a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.

Many demographers peg the rise of a class-based marriage gap to the erosion since 1970 of the broad-based economic prosperity that followed World War II. end quote

The 1965 Immigration Act caused this. Men’s median wages are down from 1973. Search p60-229.pdf and go to page 14 on census.gov. 51 percent of women live alone. This is because men don’t make enough.Female fertility is then below replacement.

http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2007/03/04/mexican-gangs-ethnic-cleansing-of-black-amercans-in-los-angeles/

Hispanic ethnic cleansing blacks site:Vdare.com

ethnic cleansing blacks site:Vdare.com

u shaped site:vdare.com

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/070318_diversity.htm

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=722

http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2007/01/25/

http://wordpress.com/tag/income-inequality-graph/

http://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2007/03/15/mccain-fighting-to-recapture-maverick-spirit-of-2000-bid/

http://www.vdare.com/rubenstein/060926_nd.htm

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quote Economists Ian Dew-Becker and Robert Gordon have compared wage and salary growth within the richest ten percent of American earners with that of the median wage earner. [Ian Dew-Becker, Robert J. Gordon, Where Did the Productivity Growth Go? Inflation Dynamics and the Distribution of Income, Brookings Papers on Economic Activity, 2:2005. PDF]

Here are their results, adjusted for inflation, for the years 1966 to 2001:
bullet Median wage and salary: +11 percent
bullet 90th percentile: +58 percent
bullet 99th percentile: +121 percent
bullet 99.9th percentile: +236 percent end quote
January 29, 2007
National Data, By Edwin S. Rubenstein
Yes, Tyler, Income Inequality Is Real. And Immigration Is A Cause. Vdare.com

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quote July 28, 2003
National Data, By Edwin S. Rubenstein
Hispanic Family Values?
Illegitimacy rates: unmarried Hispanic women aged 15-44 are about one-third again as likely to have a child as unmarried black women in that age bracket – 93.4 per 1,000 vs. 71.5 – and more than three times as an unmarried white women (27.9 per 1,000). [Source: Centers For Disease Control, pdf file]

bullet Abortion: Hispanic women are two and a half times more likely to have abortions than white women (33 per 1,000 annually vs. 13) and nearly-two thirds as likely as black women (49). [Source: Guttmacher Institute]

bullet Teenage pregnancy: Hispanics are high (about 94 per 1,000 vs. 32 for whites) and relatively worsening – they’ve now surpassed blacks (83 per 1,000). [Source: Centers For Disease Control, pdf file]

bullet Dependency: Nearly one-third (30.6%) of Hispanics receive means-tested benefits, compared to less than a tenth (9.2%) of non-Hispanic whites and just over a third (35.0%) of blacks. [Source: U.S. Census, pdf file]

bullet Criminality: just over one in every hundred adult male Hispanics (1.2%) was imprisoned in 2001 – almost a third of the non-Hispanic black rate (3.5%) and well over twice the non-Hispanic white rate (0.5%). [Source: Sourcebook of Criminal Justice Statistics, 2001, pdf file]

bullet Risky behavior: The Hispanic death rate from HIV disease is 2.5-times that of whites (7 per 100,000 vs. 2.8), and about one-third of the black rate (24). [National Center For Health Statistics, pdf file]

end quote
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quote Memo From Mexico, By Allan Wall
Deadbeat Dads Don’t Stop At The Rio Grande

“Family Values Don’t Stop At The Rio Grande.”

That’s a slogan George W. Bush uses to justify illegal immigration.
Memo From Mexico, By Allan Wall
Deadbeat Dads Don’t Stop At The Rio Grande

“Family Values Don’t Stop At The Rio Grande.”
The problem of emigrants abandoning their families is so bad that some of these poor Mexican women have actually written to VDARE.COM for help! One of them told us (my translation) that

“…my husband is an illegal alien, and has been for approximately a year and a half. I haven’t seen him for 3 years and I would like him sent back to Mexico, where he was born… I am a desperate woman with 4 children and I can’t provide for them, we live in poverty…Help me…”

This desperate lady wants the U.S. to deport her husband, and she actually included the guy’s address in California.

That’s a slogan George W. Bush uses to justify illegal immigration.
One of the towns in Susuapan is Tremecino:

“In Tremecino 25% of the mothers are left alone with their children, expecting a husband who may return this year, in 2 years or more, if at all.”

By the way, in Tremecino, the average age of marriage or cohabitation is 14!

One of the inhabitants of Tremecino is Rosa:

“…She had 4 children when her husband emigrated to Tucson. She was expecting him to send her money but it never arrived, because the man became an alcoholic and found another woman.”

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quote It’s not widely understood, but the 1986 federal amnesty for illegal immigrants set off a baby boom among unskilled Hispanics in California that began in 1988 and lasted into the late 1990s, with consequences for gang activity that have just recently become palpable.

Demographers Laura E. Hill and Hans P. Johnson of the Public Policy Institute of California wrote in 2002:

“Between 1987 and 1991, total fertility rates for foreign-born Hispanics [in California] increased from 3.2 to 4.4 [expected babies per woman over her lifetime]. … Why did total fertility rates increase so dramatically for Hispanic immigrants? First, the composition of the Hispanic immigrant population in California changed as a result of the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986. In California alone, 1.6 million unauthorized immigrants applied for amnesty (legal immigrant status) under this act. The vast majority were young men, and many were agricultural workers who settled permanently in the United States. Previous research indicates that many of those granted amnesty were joined later by spouses and relatives in the United States… As a result, many young adult Hispanic women came to California during the late 1980s. (“Understanding the Future of Californians’ Fertility: The Role of Immigrants”).

This ex-illegal immigrant baby boom created an indigestible population pig-in-a-python that overwhelmed California’s public schools in the 1990s, with many having to shift to disruptive year round schedules. The LA Unified School District alone has budgeted $19 billion for construction to accommodate the immigration-driven growth in student numbers. end quote March 18, 2007
Diversity Is Strength! It’s Also…Gang Warfare

By Steve Sailer Vdare.com

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/070318_diversity.htm

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Search construction industry wages site:vdare.com

http://www.vdare.com/rubenstein/060406_nd.htm

quote The last few years should have been good ones for labor. Since February 2004 more than 4 million jobs have been created. Output per worker increased by 3.5 percent in 2004 and 2.7 percent last year. Yet the balance of power continued shifting from labor to capital. Not only did profits spike as a share of GDP, but real median income actually declined in 2003 and 2004 (the latest available year.) end quote quote Recent data seem to confirm this. The construction industry is booming, home builders are racking up record profits, yet average construction wages have fallen between 15 percent and 35 percent across the country—the result of cheap immigrant labor. end quote April 06, 2006
National Data, By Edwin S. Rubenstein
The Smoking Bottom Line: Immigration Boosting Profits, Cutting Wages Vdare.com

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quote Americans also know that there are resulting consequences for such massive uncontrolled illegal immigration. One result will be a population explosion! Do the math– it’s breathtaking! If all 20 to 23 million illegal aliens here today are given guest worker amnesty along with “family reunification,” it will add roughly 60 million people to the current legal population of 293 million.(12) In 2050, just forty-four years from now, demographers say there will be half a billion people residing in America!(13) Just imagine what kind of impact that will have on our natural resources and quality of life! end quote Daneen G. Peterson, Ph.D.
March 16, 2006 Anarchy Reigns ~ Enforce the Laws ~ Stop The Invasion

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quote Today, California’s amnesty baby boom generation is between ages 10 and 19, entering their prime gang violence years. … California is now exporting its illegal immigration problem—gang wars, overcrowded schools, declining standards of living, and the like—to the other 49 states. end quote March 18, 2007
Diversity Is Strength! It’s Also…Gang Warfare

By Steve Sailer

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quote L.A. Blackout
Acting on orders from the Mexican Mafia, Latino gang members in Southern California are terrorizing and killing blacks.

According to gang experts and law enforcement agents, a longstanding race war between the Mexican Mafia and the Black Guerilla family, a rival African-American prison gang, has generated such intense racial hatred among Mexican Mafia leaders, or shot callers, that they have issued a “green light” on all blacks. A sort of gang-life fatwah, this amounts to a standing authorization for Latino gang members to prove their mettle by terrorizing or even murdering any blacks sighted in a neighborhood claimed by a gang loyal to the Mexican Mafia.

“This attitude is pretty pervasive throughout all the [Latino] gangs,” says Tim Brown, a Los Angeles County probation supervisor. “As long as [street] gangs are heavily influenced by the prison gangs, particularly the Mexican Mafia, racism is just part and parcel of why they come into being and why they continue to exist.” But with the Mexican Mafia’s shadow looming over Los Angeles, it may be a long time before the rapidly growing number of streets claimed by Latino gangs are safe for blacks, if ever.
“It’s not just Highland Park. It’s almost anywhere in L.A. that you could find yourself in a difficult position [as a black person],” says Lewis, the LAPD probation officer. “All blacks are on green light no matter where.”
by Brentin Mock end quote SPLC

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2007040801260&start=281

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7 of the top 8 wealthiest Senators voted for S. 2611, amnesty, affirmative action, non-deportable crime, and a pathway for the top 1 percent of households to continue to enjoy 20 percent of each year’s income, compared to 10 percent before Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act. The only 1 of the top 8 who didn’t vote for S. 2611 didn’t vote, Jay Rockefeller. McCain is 7th and Kennedy 8th in wealth.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/overview.asp?type=W&cycle=2005&filter=S

Rank Name Minimum Net Worth Maximum Net Worth

1 Herb Kohl (D-Wis) $219,098,029 to $234,549,004 Voted Yes S. 2611

2 John Kerry (D-Mass) $165,741,511 to $235,262,100

Voted Yes S. 2611

3 Jay Rockefeller (D-WVa) $78,150,023 to $101,579,003 Not Voting S. 2611

4 Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif) $43,343,464 to $98,660,021 Voted Yes S. 2611

5 Lincoln D. Chafee (R-RI) $41,153,105 to $64,096,019 Voted Yes S. 2611

6 Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ) $38,198,170 to $90,733,019 Voted Yes S. 2611

7 John McCain (R-Ariz) $25,071,142 to $38,043,014

Voted Yes S. 2611

8 Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass) $19,189,049 to $93,043,004 Voted Yes S. 2611

S 2611 Roll Call Senators understand: immigration goes up, wages go down. Wages go down Senators’ stocks go up. Men’s median wages are lower than
in 1973, Senators’ stocks go up. Top 1 percent get 20 percent of national income today and 10 percent in 1965, Senators’ stocks go up. Bush family and Pelosi family are also in the top 1 percent.

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quote Poll: Most Americans Don’t Want Continuing
Large U.S. Population Growth

As Nation Hits 300 Million Milestone, Voters Prefer
Reduced Immigration Over Adding Another 100 Million

Commentary by Roy Beck * endquote NumbersUSA Posted on another thread by
blowe1 | Apr 9, 2007 2:43:58 PM

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/04/sweet_blog_special_bush_return.html

8th amnesty?

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quote What OldAtlantic never mentions is wages of women have rising considerably and more than made up for the drop in the wages of men. These trends have very little to illegal immigration. by RealChoices from Pacthed | Apr 9, 2007 4:39:28 PM above. In addition to Pacthed’s arguments above and earlier in response to this point by RealChoices it should be pointed out that women’s wages are still below men’s. But men’s are below what they were in 1973. So women’s wages now are still less than men’s wages in 1973. That is the argument of Bush, McCain and Kennedy for immigration, that its kept wages for women below what men’s wages were in 1973. How many women have thought that was society’s goal? I haven’t heard many women saying they wanted women’s wages to stay below men’s wages in 1973 for their entire working life from 1973 to now. Search p60-231.pdf in google and go to page 18 for the graph. It has men’s and women’s wages. Is the future for women that Kennedy promises them is that their wages will stay below the wages of men in 1973?

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quote What OldAtlantic never mentions is wages of women have rising considerably and more than made up for the drop in the wages of men. These trends have very little to illegal immigration. by RealChoices from Pacthed | Apr 9, 2007 4:39:28 PM above. In addition to Pacthed’s arguments above and earlier in response to this point by RealChoices it should be pointed out that women’s wages are still below men’s. But men’s are below what they were in 1973. So women’s wages now are still less than men’s wages in 1973. That is the argument of Bush, McCain and Kennedy for immigration, that its kept wages for women below what men’s wages were in 1973. How many women have thought that was society’s goal? I haven’t heard many women saying they wanted women’s wages to stay below men’s wages in 1973 for their entire working life from 1973 to now. Search p60-231.pdf in google and go to page 18 for the graph. It has men’s and women’s wages. Is the future for women that Kennedy promises them is that their wages will stay below the wages of men in 1973? The ratio of women’s wages to men’s went from 60 percent in 1959 to about 77 percent in 2005. This is what women were hoping for? That 77 percent is 77 percent of men’s wages in 2005, but men’s wages in 2005 were lower than men’s wages in 1973. So women are getting less than 77 percent of what men’s wages were in 1973. Is that what women have been working for? Is that the future they want? A women who started working in 1965, the year of Kennedy’s immigration act and who worked to this year would have worked 42 years, all of them at less than 77 percent of what men made in 1973. Was that the goal? Do they thank Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act and its legal immigration for that lifetime of underpay?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2007040801260&start=321

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Another way to think of this. Suppose men made 100 in 1973 and women made 60 percent, or 60. Women go to 77 percent or 77, an improvement of 17. But if men’s wages had gone to 150 say and women’s percent stayed at 60, they would make 90 instead of 77. Moreover, if they had gone to 90 percent they would make 135 instead of 77, almost twice as much. Immigration did 2 things to women. It kept men’s wages down, and thus since women get a percentage less than 100 of men’s that means it kept theirs down. Second, the percentage of women’s pay to men’s pay was kept down by immigration. So women lost out twice from immigration, a lower percentage of men’s pay than they would have got, and their base in effect, men’s pay, didn’t move up. Even at 100 percent, women would only make what men did in 1973, since men only make that much.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2007040801260&start=341

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Women are often treated harshly by employers. Look at Mary Jo Kopechne who was left by Kennedy to die in an air pocket while he went back to his hotel and had a drink while she suffocated. See ytedk.com. Women are treated too harshly by employers for them to have a ceiling of men’s pay which doesn’t move since 1973. Women work too hard and are treated too harshly for their percentage of men’s pay to be kept at 77 percent by immigration instead of being close to 100 percent where it would have been after 40 years of women’s lib without the legal and illegal immigration influx. Women got the short end from Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration act 2 ways, men’s pay was frozen at the 1973 level and women’s percentage didn’t go to 100 percent, which it would have done without a market influx of low cost labor. Because health insurance benefits are cut back, women lose out a third time from immigration which has not just cut pay but also benefits including health insurance. Even if you get health insurance its not as good as it used to be.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2007040801260&start=341

Women also lose in that 51 percent live without a spouse and on pay that is 77 percent of what a man made in 1973. That’s a pretty hard life. If they are a single mom on 77 percent of what a man made in 1973 that is harsher still.

Immigration is leaving many women unmarried, perhaps childless, or perhaps single moms. With men earning what they did in 1973, they aren’t able to pay much child support, and many just skip out because they earn so little.

Mary Jo Kopechne was a secretary when she was left to die in an air pocket by Kennedy at Chappaquiddick. The scenario experienced by women , pay at under 77 percent of men’s and men’s pay frozen at the 1973 level, and a 51 percent chance to live without a spouse would have been her life had Kennedy let her live, albeit under his 1965 Immigration Act. This is what Kennedy calls upside.

==Mary Jo Kopechne Scenario

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jo_Kopechne

“Mary Jo Kopechne (July 26, 1940 – July 18, 1969) was an American teacher, secretary and administrator, notable for her death in a car accident on Chappaquiddick Island in a car driven by Senator Ted Kennedy.”

Ytedk archive site

also

July 20, 2004, 9:44 a.m.
Remembering Mary Jo
35 years later: Ted Kennedy’s under-investigated scandal.
Myrna Blyth National Review Online
If she had worked to 2007, she would have retired at age 67. That would have been as a teacher, secretary and administrator. She would have made typically less than 77 percent of what a man made her entire career. Because men’s wages topped out in 1973, she would have made no more than 77 percent of what a man made in 1973. That is what would have happened to her under Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act, if she hadn’t suffered under Kennedy’s 1969 Chappaquiddick Act.

http://www.census.gov/prod/2006pubs/p60-231.pdf

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2007040900105&start=41

Immigration kept men’s median wages to the 1973 level, and women’s wages to under 77 percent of men. That was legal immigration from Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act. With zero immigration, women’s wages would have reached parity with men long ago. In addition, men’s median wages would be higher than in 1973.

Search p60-231.pdf and go to census.gov to see a graph on page 18 that shows men’s median wages are less than in 1973 and that women’s ratio to men’s wages went from 60 percent in 1960 to 77 percent in 2005. They were kept from going higher by immigration which has targeted women’s jobs, e.g. cleaning and nursing.

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amonster | Apr 9, 2007 8:26:05 PM great find.

quote

Labor Day is almost upon us, and like some of my fellow graybeards, I can, if I concentrate, actually remember what it was that this holiday once celebrated. Something about America being the land of broadly shared prosperity. Something about America being the first nation in human history that had a middle-class majority, where parents had every reason to think their children would fare even better than they had.
The young may be understandably incredulous, but the Great Compression, as economists call it, was the single most important social fact in our country in the decades after World War II. From 1947 through 1973, American productivity rose by a whopping 104 percent, and median family income rose by the very same 104 percent. More Americans bought homes and new cars and sent their kids to college than ever before. In ways more difficult to quantify, the mass prosperity fostered a generosity of spirit: The civil rights revolution and the Marshall Plan both emanated from an America in which most people were imbued with a sense of economic security.

That America is as dead as the dodo. Ours is the age of the Great Upward Redistribution.
end quote.

from Devaluing Labor By Harold Meyerson
Wednesday, August 30, 2006; Page A19
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/29/AR2006082901042.html?nav=rss_opinion/columns

Since 1973, men’s median wages are unchanged, see p60-231.pdf page 18 graph. Women’s wages were 60 percent of men’s in 1960 and are 77 percent in 2005.So women’s wages are less than 77 percent of what men’s wages were in 1973. This shows that before immigration, from 1947 to 1973, productivity and median wages went up 1 for 1. Since then, its all been to the shareholders, many of them rich senators like McCain and Kennedy.

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Further comment on Meyerson quote that amonster | Apr 9, 2007 8:26:05 PM found above. quote

More Americans bought homes and new cars and sent their kids to college than ever before. In ways more difficult to quantify, the mass prosperity fostered a generosity of spirit: The civil rights revolution and the Marshall Plan both emanated from an America in which most people were imbued with a sense of economic security. end quote

Those words are so true. America was once so much more of a family than it is today. Today it is a Bush Hobbesian land. America was so much better 25 years ago. It was so much safer to walk at night. There was so much less fear.

Children could play on their own and roam and get into trouble. They were safe. Probably, no one on earth will ever know a land that great and good for centuries and possibly millenia to come.

You can see what America was in the movies from decades ago. That was once real and it was America. It was so safe and so more unified.

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Two posts at Vdare by Patrick Cleburne and Randall Burns lead into this article’s discussion of how Senator Edward M. Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act harmed the family of Senator Lindsey Graham while he and his sister were growing up. Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act created income inequality and economic insecurity to further undermine Senator Lindsey Graham and his sister’s start in life when both their parents died.

If you look at p60-191.pdf at Census.gov they have a graph showing income inequality went down from the start of statistics in the 1940’s to bottom out at the time of the 1965 Immigration Act and started up after 1968 and has gone up ever since. Men’s median wages flattened in 1973 and in 2005 were below 1973. See p60-229.pdf graph page 14. Most Senators timed the income inequality graph perfectly, coming of age as young adults when income inequality was low from the 1940’s to 1960’s and then building or increasing fortunes as income inequality increased from 1968 to the present.

In an earlier article, Graham was compared to several other senators who sponsored or cosponsored the S. 2611 amnesty bill who unlike Graham benefited from low income inequality when they started out as young adults and high income inequality in their peak earning years. Several Senators who conspored S. 2611 built or deepened fortunes from the misfortunes of others on the income inequality graph.

From an earlier Old Atlantic article:

The lives of Arlen Specter and the 6 cosponsors of S. 2611 are reviewed at the end of the article in terms of how they fit on the income inequality graph. Arlen Specter, John McCain and Ted Kennedy were born in the 1930’s and became young adults in the 1950’s while income inequality was falling. They could build careers and have families while still young. Two Senators, Chuck Hagel and Mel Martinez were born in 1946. They became 21 in 1967. They had families and full careers as they timed the income inequality graph perfectly, low income inequality when they were young and rising while they got on top. Both became rich on this curve.

Lindsey Graham and Sam Brownback were born in the mid 1950’s. Graham had to start out as the curve was getting worse. He had to choose a career or family and chose career. He has never had children. Brownback solved this problem by marrying an heiress and has 5 children and a career. Brownback is running for president.

Patrick Cleburne comments on the prior Old Atlantic article at Vdare.com:
” The Senate: In an Income Time Warp?”

Patrick Cleburne

A large number of Americans appear to have realized that income inequality has increased and that massive immigration is substantially responsible. And they are increasingly willing to say so.

A frequently-expressed view of Peter Brimelow’s is that the current generation of political “leaders” was formed intellectually before immigration was discernable as a social problem. Quite possibly they will literally have to die off before public policy will change – people rarely have new ideas.

…

Personally, though, I still think the more persuasive explanation is that these Senators are selfish, corrupt, and unAmerican.

Mr. Cleburne has some kind words for a previous Old Atlantic column and this blogger, which I thank him for. I am only too well aware of the editing work needed for this blog and I thank my readers for putting up with it.

“What To Do With The Senate?” Randall Burns at Vdare.com

Randall Burns deepens our understanding of the comparison of the lives of the Senators by providing information on the life of Lindsey Graham. Burns points out that Graham helped to take care of a sister when both of their parents died.

His sister was taken in by relatives and Graham arranged to do his law school education near to where she was living and also with the military’s assent adopted her so she could take advantage of military health care.

As Burns points out, this was not selfish on the part of Graham. But in the context of the discussion here and in Mr. Cleburne’s column, Graham was distinguished from the selfish Senators as illustrating the impact of economic insecurity as he reached young adulthood. The other Senators’ lives illustrated selfishness and attributing to themselves the advantage of the timing of their birth on the income inequality graph.

The loss of both parents can only be a shock to the sense of economic security of any person. Since Graham had a minor sister at the time, that can only deepen that sense of economic insecurity. In the comparison of the lives above, Graham illustrated how economic insecurity was higher in the late 1970’s and 1980’s as income inequality was going up from its low in 1968 as the effects of Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act cut in.

By pointing this episode out, Burns deepens our understanding of this. Graham was subject to two shocks, one was the loss of his parents while he had a minor sister and the other was the rising tide of income inequality from Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act. This meant it would be harder for her to have a job during school or for her relatives to support her who had taken her in.

In fact, Graham tells us she got 600 dollars per month from Social Security and that she needed that money. This shows how social security had taken the place for the Graham family of a job market with job shortages and high wages, which is the historic basis of income security for all but the rich.

Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act had taken from the Graham family the economic opportunity it needed both before and after the loss of Graham’s parents. The Kennedy 1965 Immigration Act had left the Graham family unprepared except by social security and the kindess of relatives for one of life’s blows, the loss of the two parents. We can infer that Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act kept Graham’s parents from having sufficient life insurance, and that they couldn’t afford sufficient life insurance because Kennedy took away the wages of both of Graham’s parents with his 1965 Immigration Act.

NRLC Abortions 2001 1,303,000

FAIRUS 2001 Legal Immigrants 1,064,318

This shows that immigration is substitution for births.  If we stopped immigration completely, legal and illegal, we would just balance the effect of abortions.

Illegal, who knows. Could be 1 to 2 million per year. Total here could be 10 to 30 million. These numbers are always far more than anyone imagines. 1986 Amnesty brought in far more people than even the most extreme criticis predicted.

==Brimelow:

And if there is a looming labor shortage (hotly disputed), it could presumably be countered by natalist policies—encouraging Americans to step up their below-replacement birthrate. Even the current high immigration inflow is exceeded by the 1.6 million abortions in the U.S. each year.

“Time to Rethink Immigration?”

by Peter Brimelow
from National Review, June 22, 1992

Mr. Brimelow is Editor at VDARE.com.

http://www.vdare.com/pb/time_to_rethink2.htm

 http://www.vdare.com/misc/070212_smith.htm
February 12, 2007
“U.S. Chamber Urging Country On Rome’s Path To Disaster”

I find it ironic that the US Chamber of Commerce is promoting a report “America’s Perfect Storm: Three Forces Changing Our Nation’s Future,” [PDF] (press release here). The report, by ETS’s Policy Information Center, contends that the convergence of three forces—inadequate literacy skills among large segments of our population, the continuing evolution of our economy and the nation’s job structure, and an ongoing shift in the demographic profile of our country driven by the highest immigration rates in almost a century—will have “dire consequences for America”.

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By Steve Smith

“Billy Graham’s Sons Argue Over a Final Resting Place”

By Laura Sessions Stepp

Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 13, 2006; Page A0
“MONTREAT, N.C. — It is a struggle worthy of the Old Testament, pitting brother against brother, son against mother, and leaving the famous father, the Rev. Billy Graham, trapped in the middle, pondering what to do.”

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quote That’s not to say that, on occasion, he didn’t give Ruth fits. “In my late teens, early 20s maybe, I’d be out late drinking, getting stoned. I’d come home at 2 or so and Mother would be up. She’d just kiss me and say, ‘Ned, I’m glad you’re home. Love ya, I’m going to bed now.’ ” end quote.

Young people could find themselves and then still have a job, family and life.  Now with immigration, that isn’t possible.  Bush and McCain will match any willing employer with an immigrant.

If even Billy Graham’s children need time to find themselves, don’t we need to stop immigration to give all God’s children in this country time to find themselves without their place being filled by Bush and McCain?

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from Spencer S. Hsu and Krissah Williams
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, December 13, 2006; Page A01

“Federal agents targeting illegal immigrants raided meatpacking plants in six states yesterday, arresting hundreds of workers on the uncommon charge of identity theft and shutting down the world’s second-largest meat processing company for much of the day.

About 1,000 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents with search warrants entered plants owned by Swift & Co., of Greeley, Colo., charging that “large numbers” of workers illegally assumed the identities of U.S. citizens or legal residents by using their Social Security numbers to get work, ICE officials said.”

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From Athena Kerry at Vdare:

“Federal agents targeting illegal immigrants raided meatpacking plants in six states yesterday, arresting hundreds of workers on the uncommon charge of identity theft and shutting down the world’s second-largest meat processing company for much of the day.”

Andres Guerrero, who teaches Spanish at Aims Community College, joined the protesters. He said, “In ten years we’re going to take over the southland, trust me. “This is our land and always will be our land.”

http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2006/12/12/juicy-details-of-ice-meatpacking-raid-in-greely-colorado/print/

Athena Kerry gives links to in-depth coverage at Greeley Tribune

http://www.greeleytrib.com/article/20061212/NEWS/61212035

Interactive map of Swift plants nationwide and ICE raids

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baspartan | Dec 13, 2006 9:57:02 AM | quote An old acquaintence of mine who moved to California to work in medical research and other hi tech fields – he has an MD, a PHD, 2 Masters degrees, is a Vet and a staunch Patriot – end quote.

The staunch Patriot combined with know-how is what worries them. A lot of America works on fraud principles, as shown by this ICE raid. Staunch patriots with this much know-how might turn in people.

This is easier to do with the internet, electronic databases of academic articles that cover the last century, electronic newspaper archives, etc. The establishment want people who can use this to expose them to be on student visas.

If China gets it and uses it, that’s ok. If the American people are told it, that’s a problem. China, Pakistan, Russia, India, etc. are all compiling kompromat files.

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This won’t change until DOJ leadership is clean.

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“CHICAGO, Dec. 12 — Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich (D) will announce on Wednesday a wide-ranging set of measures meant to better integrate immigrants, legal and illegal, into the state’s economy, education system and workforce.”

from Kari Lydersen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 13, 2006; Page A11

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This is a violation of equal protection. Its also done after an election. This is part of stealth immigration.

Democrats say they are for the middle and working class, but actually are against them. They just want votes. Why would any one who is a citizen vote for Democrats? Republicans are almost as bad, but not always is part of the answer.

Pelosi and Reid will make it clear to Americans that the Democrat Party is the end of the middle and working class, although Bush McCain are willing helpers. The next 2 years are the years of the Democrats on immigration, which is the biggest harm to the middle class.

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Cornell1984 | Dec 13, 2006 10:46:18 AM | That is close to how they think.  Some illegals may do all of those things as well.  Mass extinction of species threatens life on earth.  Increasing the US population quickens those deaths.

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The Baker Hamilton Iraq Study Group has based their analysis on a number of fallacies. Some of these were in the Gingrich article at Front Page Mag.

—Fallacy: Iraq can be analysed by itself

Iraq is a war by itself, not part of a regional war.

– Fallacy: Iran and Syria part of the solution.

Baker Hamilton treat enemy countries, Iran and Syria as part of the solution, not part of the war.

This is like invading France in 1944 at Normandy and asking Germany to help end the insurgency.

–Fallacy: Ignoring Islam

Islam is the problem. Baker Hamilton ignore this.

–Mistake: Maliki is a friend.

al Maliki is an enemy, as is the government of Iraq.

–Fallacy: Islamic Republic can be pro-Western
Islamic Republics are anti-American. By creating Islamic Republics in Iraq and Afghanistan we created enemies. We are dying to strengthen enemies.

–Iraq Army could turn on us?

The Iraq army if it gets strong enough will stab us in the back. The fallacy is to spend our resources to make a hostile army stronger in the name of stability.

–Stable Iraq can build nukes?

A stable Iraq can be a more effective enemy. They already are an enemy, except for the Kurds.

–Don’t help Christians and Kurds.

This is a standard Jim Baker mistake. Baker betrayed the Christians in Lebanon to Syria during the Iraq war.

–Leaving embeds in a hosilte army?

We can’t leave embeds in an enemy army, a fallacious conclusion of the Baker Hamilton Iraq Study Group.

–Golan Heights Giveaway?

Israel is an ally. They propose giving the Golan Heights back to Syria. Syria is an enemy country. This is like giving France back to Germany in 1944.

When did giving back the Golan Heights become part of their mandate?

–Fallacy: Israel is the problem.

Turkey started genocide of Christians in the 1890’s, before Israel was founded in 1947. Islam is the problem. Demographics are the problem. Their immigration here is the problem. Disloyalty and self-interest of our leaders is the problem. PC Leftist Marxist self-hate is the problem, especially when used by self-interested “leaders”.

–Holding Ground v. Holding onto an Enemy?

Like Patton said, don’t hold ground, hold onto the enemy. The enemy right now is Iran. Hold on to them and finish them.

– Invading Iran, they assume we won’t.

BH said if we withdraw, Iran and Syria will invade Iraq. Iran won’t invade Iraq if its busy being invaded by us.

– Immigration to US brings in enemies?

We have to stop all immigration to the US. We can’t have people coming from enemy countries who believe in an enemy ideology of our destruction coming here.

That includes Communist Chinese grad students as well as grad students from Russia. Both are enemy countries that see themselves as our adversary.

–Don’t Fight wars when killed are 200?

The time to fight wars is when battle phase deaths are 200 per war, or even 2000.

–Ignore need for Iranian regime change

We need to remove the Iranian regime that is hostile to us and prevents a solution in Iraq.

We need to apply Weed and Seed in Iran. Weed and seed is remove what’s bad, seed what’s good and see what grows. If its a weed, remove it.

–Ignore Iran’s missiles, subs and nuclear program.

We need to remove Iran’s missile, sub, and nuclear program. We can’t let Iran put nukes on missiles on subs and have them off our shores or sell them to North Korea or Pakistan. The time to defeat them is now.

We have Iran surrounded on 3 sides. Saddam didn’t. We have air and naval power, Saddam didn’t. We have a better military than Saddam or Iran in the 1980’s or what they have now.

–Give up bases to invade Iran from?
We should not retreat from Iraq and give up our bases to attack Iran. We lose more dead from retaking this ground around Iran than attacking now.

If Iran defends forward, we defeat it from our bases, if back, we can defeat it piecemeal. If it defends back, it loses missile and sub bases to threaten our ships.

Our biggest potential loss in a war with Iran is a missile or sub that sinks a carrier. So we want to use our ground troops to remove missiles in range of our ships and subs. Air power will get most but not all of their missiles.

–Pakistan nukes, subs, missiles.

Pakistan has nukes, subs and missiles and is intending to combine them. They have a sub shipyard the French built for them. They have a new nuclear reactor coming on line that will help them build many minaturized warheads that will fit on missiles on subs.

– Risks in Iran Invasion made worse

Attacking Iran from the ground from Iraq is less risky than using ships. Big ships can be sunk by Iran’s missiles or subs. We want to move our ships back and use ground forces because its lower risk and lower cost. To do that, we need bases in Iraq.

The BH group wants us to lower our ground forces and remove our combat units from Iraq. That will let Iran attack them. It also doesn’t let us attack Iran during a rotation when we double up combat units in Iraq. That means we lose surprise.

Delay makes Iran and Pakistan problems worse and solutions more costly and risky.

–Surround and Blockade Pakistan

We must surround and blockade Pakistan to force it to give up its subs, missiles and nukes. If that fails, we must invade it. We need to surround it to minimize casualties.

We need bases in Iraq to invade Iran at lower cost. We need to invade Iran to surround Pakistan. We need to surround and blockade Pakistan to make it give up its nukes without fighting a war.

–We have wasted time after 9-11

We have wasted time. We should have won the whole war starting after 9-11 by the end of 2003. That should have included Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Hezbollah, Afghanistan, Hamas, and North Korea. We have acted as if we had time, when we don’t.

– Our know-how is going to China, Iran, Pakistan

Our military advantage is eroded by Chinese grad students and H1B’s and Indian and other nationals who give our technology and know-how to China, Pakistan, Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia, etc.

We have to teach our people math and science in our grad schools, and not the people of any other country at all. We need to employ our people in our country, and not the people of any other country at all. We need to give our young adults economic and job security so they can get married, have kids and stay married. That means ending immigration.

–Islam at war with West using immigration

Islam is at war with us using immigration and population demographics. We are losing that war. Islam is conquering Europe and Russia by these means. We must get Europe to stop immigration and to keep Turkey out of Europe.

– Islam’s history is war with West

We have to look at history. We have to stop the PC idea that we are the problem of history and return to the idea of our forbears that Islam is the problem. We need leaders on our side, not on the side of their own pipeline deals.

–Lee Hamilton lied about Saudi Pak role in 9-11

We don’t need a Lee Hamilton who lies about the role of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia and then to cover up his lies pretends that Iraq is a problem by itself instead of part of a wider war, a war he covered up.

Pakistan and Saudi Arabia attacked us on 9-11 through proxies. They are supporting the insurgencies against us in Iraq and Afghanistan. So is Iran. All 3 countries are at war with us. They are the main enemy homelands. We must defeat all 3.

Baker Hamilton, Baker Kean, Nawaf Obaid, Prince Turki al-Faisal, President Bush in defending Saudi Arabia and Prince Bandar are part of the same disinformation machine working against us.

We need to exclude Muslims from our military, Congress, weapons lab, etc. We must keep Muslims from getting access to Russian, British, French or US nukes. We need to stop their immigration or even visiting our country.

–After Pearl Harbor, Immigration stopped.

After Pearl Harbor was attacked, immigration and tourism from Japan and Germany was completely halted. That is what happens in war. Nor did we have Chinese grad students occupy our physics departments and weapons labs, with some exceptions like C. S. Wu, who may have been a spy, other Chinese in the West during WWII later returned to China and built their bombs including Huanwu Peng.

History teaches that countries that continue immigration and tourism from hostile lands during war and after they are caught attacking us from within and stealing our know-how don’t survive. We are a feckless country.

Is it better to bomb Iraq than to stop immigration home? Bush says we have to fight them there so that we don’t have to fight them here. If they can’t come here, they can’t kill us here. Why don’t we stop immigration? Why is it better to kill them in their own lands than stop them coming to our lands?

–America had survival instinct after Dec 7, 1941

America stopped all immigration. It stopped tourism and student visas. Only Americans were taught Ph.D. level physics. Now its the opposite.

The people of that time had a survival instinct for themselves, their children and their country. It was their and their children’s country then and forever. They took it seriously and took their children’s future seriously. They had courage to face up to reality and do what it took to win.

They said the truth. They didn’t say fascism is the religion of peace. They defeated fascism. They didn’t set up fascist republics, courts and laws, they abolished them. They didn’t praise what attacked them, they destroyed it, utterly and completely for all time.

They removed it from the planet so that it could never harm any human being, in their own time or any time to come. They thought not just of themselves, but of generations to come. They did what had to be done.

–Leaders want to coverup their betrayal

Our leaders are interested in covering up their mistakes and complicity in our problems, especially in the immigration of the last 40 years that allowed 9-11 and led to our know in night vision and stealth ending up with China.

–Time to win is short, invade Iran now

We need to rapidly defeat our enemies before our know-how transferred to China is sold to Iran and Pakistan and used against us.

We are at war, but act like we are not only at peace, but that all the world is already united as one people. We have PC lies broadcast from our media that blame us and undermine our loyalty to ourselves. Our leaders do this for personal advantage and to lie about having betrayed us already. Baker Hamilton are part of that.

–Baker Botts Saudi Arabia’s lawyer

Baker Botts is defending Saudi Arabia, a country that Lee Hamilton lied about not having financed the 9-11 attacks against us.

BH study group has covered up Saudi Arabia and Iran’s role in supporting the insurgency against us in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Baker Botts law firm has pipeline deals in the Middle East and Central Asia. James A. Baker IV, the son of James A. Baker III is head of the Washington Office of Baker Botts and part of those pipeline deals.

Prince Bandar has boasted on US TV that he pays people when they leave government and this makes them look at things his way while in government.

The West has the most disloyal leaders in recorded history. The elites in the West have an ideology of hatred of the West and of the middle classes.

Baker Hamiton Botts Bush are more loyal to the elites of our enemies than to our middle class. We have enemies within like the communists in WWII. Like FDR then, our leaders lie about it now.

–We have already been attacked from within

Unlike Pearl Harbor, we were attacked from within, not once but multiple times. Our enemies organize in our homeland and use our own courts against us.

After Pearl Harbor, when attacked from without by Imperial Japanese Navy, we interned Japanese. After 9-11 when attacked from within by Muslims, we didn’t intern Muslims or even stop immigration. We got it wrong both times?

Americans during WWII believed in themselves. They wanted to live and though they had an unconditional right to live. Our leaders thought that and were loyal.

Americans believed during WWII that they were fighting to keep this land for themselves and their children forever. They believed this land belonged to them to the exclusion of all others forever. Owning land means excluding others from its enjoyment. They believed they owned this land in that sense and their children would forever.

Ask your politician if he believes the people of this country and their children own this land to the exclusion of all other people forever? Ask them at every opportunity.

Why is killing over 100,000 Iraqis by some counts thinkable and moral, but stopping immigration or deporting those who attack us from within unthinkable? When will worse become not just thinkable but necessary?

Look at what they have done to their lands before coming here? Look at Iraq, Lebanon, the West Bank, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc. What do they do when they come here? They call us racist. They call us names.

They say one thing in English and another thing in their own language. Why is it unthinkable to send them back, but thinkable to bomb their relatives who are still there? Why do we have to bomb their relatives there so they won’t kill us here?

Does that even make sense? Doesn’t bombing their relatives there make them more likely to kill us here? Isn’t that what happened in 1993 at WTC and in 2001 at WTC and the Pentagon?

Didn’t the MSM lie about this after the WTC 1993 attack? Didn’t the MSM say the Republicans were bigots including Pat Buchanan at the 1996 Republican convention to want to slow down immigration?

Didn’t all 19 hijackers come after the 1996 Republican convention? Didn’t the MSM lie on 9-11? Didn’t they call us bigots pre-emptively for wanting to stop immigration?

Didn’t Norman Mineta on 9-12 say he was against profiling to cover up that he was responsible for 3000 people being killed? Didn’t we find out later he had had warnings before 9-11 that he didn’t tell us about on 9-12 when he said no profiling. He was told in advance of the risk, as was Bush and as was Rice. They all did nothing and then after 9-11, lied to us when they said they had no warning and no idea.

If they lied about that, aren’ they lying about immigration? They kill over 100,000 Muslims and say its to keep their relatives here from killing us. But the Muslims here have already attacked us from within. How can killing Muslims there make us safer from Muslims here?

If they can’t deport them, why can’t they stop immigration from the very lands where our troops are being killed or that are supporting it? Saudi Arabia is supplying men, money and arms to the insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan to kill Americans. Why do we have 15,000 Saudi students coming here? Isn’t everything that Bush and the MSM say a lie?

When America is a Lebanon, Iraq, or even a Denmark, France, or Netherlands won’t we have to do worse? When the civil war is on us, won’t we have to do and suffer far worse then? Why can’t we face reality now?

Our ancestors in WWII faced up to what had to be done. They did what it took to protect their land, their children, and their grand children. They didn’t tell themselves PC lies that they were responsible for everything that is wrong.

The MSM repeat Manuel II’s words but turn them on the West.

Show me just what the West brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as its command to stop immigration by the authentic indigenous people of Denmark, England, France, and America, i.e. Muslims from Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, whose ancestors never came from there.^[2]

If we don’t want to deport or do worse later, had we not better stop immigration now? Aren’t the MSM and our leaders lying about immigration now to cover up for their past betrayals since 1965? Aren’t they making it worse later to cover up for the past now?

If we hope to assimilate those here, instead of fighting them, shouldn’t we stop immigration now? Which is kinder? Its the truth that the MSM hate. They were responsible for the deaths on 9-11 by their calling Pat Buchanan a bigot at the 1996 Republican Convention.

On 9-11, Peter Jennings and the others couldn’t admit that Pat Buchanan was right in 1996 at the Republican Convention and they were wrong to call him a bigot. Almost 3,000 people died on 9-11 because they made the wrong call in 1996. Thousands have died since in Iraq because of their mistake. They can’t admit they all died because they called Pat Buchanan a bigot in 1996.

Because if they were wrong then, their motives must have been their own bigotry and anti-Americanism. They must have intended immigration all along to take our job, physical and speech security. To admit that is to let us blame them and to give up their strategy. They still want to take away our job, physical and speech security.

That includes Bush after 9-11. He wanted to keep us fearful because he was warned before 9-11. He lied to us then and he is still lying. All the deaths are his fault. He lies to keep from admitting that.

Things will only get worse while we listen to the lies of the MSM. A country can become Lebanon or Iraq or the West Bank. Those lands were better than they were now. But high birth rates by the people in those lands made them unlivable. Those high birth rates caused the most extreme interpretation of Islam to become the norm.

In the 1960’s, women did not walk covered in Lebanon or Iraq or the West Bank. Now they walk that way even in London and America. What does that tell us will happen next here?

If their birth rates caused their lands to become unlivable, what will they do in our lands? When do we speak up for our own survival? Now or when its too late? What will they do to us when they have the power? What they are doing now?

The issue of whether to stop immigration or to deport those who attack us from within or support those who do is an empirical question. The PC MSM make it sound like a moral issue of black and white. To let ourselves be turned into a Baghdad situation is not moral. To let our land become a land of terror and war is not moral.

Moreover, earth’s sustainable population is far below its current population, perhaps 1 billion. If America and Europe became war zones, then earth will miss its chance to reverse with technology the environmental problems. In that case, the human population may go down to 50 million or even zero.

We have an obligation to maintain the human species. This may be the only intelligent species in the universe.

The universe may be wasted if we die out. This may be the only universe. This may be the last best hope of intelligent life in the universe. We can’t let it be turned into a war zone by a PC elite that denies the evidence of buildings burning behind them as they say immigration is not the problem.

–Everyone who died has done so for immigration.

Every person who died on 9-11 2001 or in WTC 1993 or in Iraq or Afghanistan, whether Muslim or not, died for immigration. Every person put in prison, every person detained, every person tortured, whether in Iraq or Gitmo or some secret prison sufferred for immigration.

Every person who has been afraid, been searched, been delayed, been subjected to indignity, been offended, can trace that to immigration.

Take away the 1965 Immigration Act and none of it would have happened. There would be no Gitmo. There would be no extraordinary renditions. There would have been no waterboarding. There would have been no Abu Ghraib. There would be no bombing. None of it would have happened.

We keep Gitmo open today to keep immigration going into the future. We have secret prisons to keep immigration going into the future. We have troops in Iraq to keep immigration going into the future. Every death, every maiming, every sacrifice is for immigration.

Teddy Kennedy and the others in 1965 lied about the reasons for the 1965 Immigration Act. They said it wasn’t to change the racial make up, when it explicitly said it was. They lied about it then and their motives. Immigration has always been a lie.

Immigration is a lie today. Immigration is about lies. Everyone being detained in Gitmo today is there for immigration. Everyone dying in Iraq today is dying for immigration.

More people will die with certainty because of what has happened. Our night vision and stealth technology have been stolen by China by immigration.

Middle class job security has been taken by immigration. Good working class jobs with good wages, benefits and job security no longer exist because of immigration. They once were regarded as a right.

Men’s median wages are no higher today in the US than in 1973. This is the intended outcome of the 1965 Immigration Act, and every pro-immigration vote since then. Senators take money for this. Nancy Pelosi has illegals work her vineyards outside San Francisco and she voted against requiring employers of illegals to pay for their hospital costs.

Congress lies about immigration. The Democratic Party is a lie. It says its for the little guy, the poor, the working class and the middle class but they are in fact totally against them. What has taken away the Archie Bunker homestead is the 1965 Immigration Act of the Democratic Party. The truth is they hate Archie Bunker and to get him have hit every middle class and working class person in America.

The intended result of immigration was to take away job security, physical security and speech security. Its accomplished that. All the people who died on 9-11, died and their deaths lied about to cover up that Pat Buchanan was right in 1996 to want to stop immigration completely.

Everything that Bush, McCain, George Will, William Kristol, the 9-11 Commission, Lee Hamilton, Jim Baker, the Iraq Study Group, the Senate, Nancy Pelosi say about all this is a lie. They are covering up their own immigration policies as the root cause of what happened on 9-11 and since then.

–Iraq was flip side of Dec 7, 1941 reaction.

On Dec 7, 1941, we were attacked by a foreign navy. We responded by internment and cutting off immigration and then went after them. Even before they were defeated, we relaxed the internment.

On Sep 11, 2001, we were attacked from inside. We didn’t do internment or even slow down immigration, tourism or student visas, even from the countries that attacked us or supported the attack.

Instead, we attacked a country outside ours that didn’t even support the 9-11 attacks. Bush said we had to fight them in Iraq so that Saudis, Pakistanis, etc. wouldn’t fight us here. But he still kept them coming here.

–Irrationality and lies not security

Those who deny reality are not interested in our security but their own short term security. Bush and the establishment were covering up their lies about immigration and intentionally causing more deaths here to cover up for their lies. We know they were warned before 9-11, and chose not to warn us.

It was for the same reason. They wouldn’t admit before 9-11 that immigrants were a risk. There would have been a manhunt for the immigrants, which would have led to the question of why they were here.

So their lies led to our deaths. Then they took away our civil rights. So their lies led to our losing our physical and legal security. They also have taken away our job security. Men’s median wages are below what they were in 1973. They lie about immigration’s role in that and try to hide that it happened. Democrats say they are for the poor when they are against them.

You don’t get security from those who lie about the causes of 9-11. They lied before, during and after it. They still are covering up Saudi and Pakistani involvement many believe.

Irrationality and lies are not security. They lead to worse actual outcomes and even bigger lies. Countries can fall apart and become combat zones. Look at Lebanon and Iraq over the last 50 years.

This is now happening here. The real racism is to think we are different. The real racism is to think that we can change the people and give up homogeneity and not have the wars that come from diversity. The real racism is to think diversity causes wars there but won’t here.

Irrationality and lies are not the basis of security. Retirement financial and physical security is not built on lies. It will be far worse than we can let ourselves believe. We see what it will be in Lebanon and Iraq today. That is the future immigration brings us.

That is what the Baker Hamilton Iraq Study Group should have said. They should have said, whatever can be said about Iraq, we have to stop immigration so that it doesn’t happen here.

If they can’t stop diversity killing there with our army there, why should we believe they can stop it here? Do we want our army in our lives? Do we want checkpoints like in Baghdad and the West Bank and Gaza?

The MSM elite will get special treatment, as will Congress. We won’t be able to take sick children to the doctor or hospital, get to work, buy groceries or even have electricity and water. They will laugh at us and lie to us just as they do now.

–Future in America will be worse with certainty

If they lie about the past, won’t they lie about the future? The intended result of immigration is to take away job, physical and speech security. So it will.

What will happen in the future will be far worse than 9-11. Suicide bombing will come. That’s what 9-11 was. Its going to come as a norm. Fatwa’s will be prepared and given to order it.
– Not mobilized our military

We have not moblized our military to deal with the threats because Bush Sr. lost the 1992 election after his no new taxes pledge. We get no truth from our government.

The first Bush administration used fear to cover up a multitude of crimes after taking office and likely many before.

–We are infiltrated

Our society is infiltrated in universities, MSM, Wall Street, defense industries, Silicon valley, etc. by foreign nationals from hostile countries. They gather kompromat and blackmail and bribe our elites to be against us.

–Deindustrialization after 9-11 in time of war

After being attacked on 9-11, we have sold companies to foreign countries, invested outside the US, continued low cost imports, seen our automobile companies verge on bankruptcy, invested in a housing boom instead of the weapons and energy independence we need. We have sent our know-how overseas and brought others to our shores to displace and substitute for our own people to learn science, math, engineering, computers and technology.

Our information of all types has been sent outside the country and foreigners brought here, often from hostile lands like Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Iran, etc. to have control of it.

The education, recommendation letters, promotion, admissions, hiring, etc. of Americans is controlled by foreigners from hostile lands including Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Iran, etc. They openly discriminate and make racist comments about the inferiority and laziness of Americans.

–MSM, Profs, Govt are Enemy Propaganda Machine

We have abandoned ourselves, our dignity, all sense of loyalty and reason. The truth is told by a few and they are called racists and bigots, even in time of war.

On and after 9-11, the MSM, President, Norman Mineta, praise our enemies ideology and religion, and attack as bigots those who want to stop immigration and tourism into our country at time of war. Our night vision and stealth technology have been taken since then. Our night vision is used by insurgents to kill and maim our troops and our leaders, MSM, profs, etc. say its bigotry to want to stop that and support our troops by keeping it here.

–Stop Immigration, Know-how transfer, Self-hate in wartime

The way to do that is to stop immigration, tourism, student visas to our land during time of war. Yet our MSM, profs, leaders, etc. all say that is bigotry. They say to be for ourselves in time of war is bigotry. Their concepts are leftist concepts created by the Soviet Union and Marx to defeat us. They have combined the 19th century anti Western concepts of Marx as an enemy ideology within with Islam as another enemy ideology within. They have made Muslims the highest birth rate group in our society, and say its bigotry to stop their immigration. They are choosing death and say its not. This reflects Marxist hate of the West that is taught in K-12, colleges, and by the MSM and political leaders.

The Commission parrot the same lies and hate. We have few leaders who are for us, and they are called nativists and bigots. We are losing the immigration, demographic and birth rate conflict and the MSM praise it. They fund a third world population bubble that is causing a mass extinction of species. Then they push immigration that makes it worse.

–Earth’s population above sustainable level

Earth’s population is far above its sustainable level, i.e. the level that doesn’t cause more species to go extinct than come into existence. The longer this continues, the more species that go extinct, and the lower the sustainable population becomes.

We are on a train to destruction and our leaders ignore it. No one is at the controls of this train as it heads towards desruction. No one is at the controls but death.

Islam was developed in 622 AD, the Dark Ages. It reflected the scarcity and demographic stress of those times. Some think this was caused by a volcano, but whatever the cause the Dark Ages was a time of population decline and stress.

The 19th century was a time of rapid population growth, and demographic stress. This resulted in the genocide of Christians by the Muslims of the Ottoman Empire that started in the 1890’s and has essentially continued in the successor states of that Empire to the present day.

Resurgent Islam is a reflection of the current demographic stress induced by their high birth rate, just as Marxism was a reflection of demographic stress from high birth rates in the 19th century. The toxic fundamentalist Islam of today, far worse than the 1960’s is a reflection of demographic stress.

Earth is crowded. It is far above its sustainable human population level. There are Volterra Predator Prey equations that govern this. However, in our system of equations, instead of a decline in population of each species in proportion, the supporting species go extinct.

This means the sustainable human population level falls. This continues in proportion to the gap between the current population and the sustainable population. But that gap is increasing, because current population goes up and the sustainable population goes down as species go extinct. This just makes more species go extinct, further driving down the sustainable population.

At some point, the current population must reverse course and then go down faster than the sustainable population if it is to meet the sustainable population before the sustainable population reaches zero.

–Islam and Latin Leftism driven by population bubble

Islam and self hate Marxism will only get worse until we reach this equilibrium point. Demographic stress will increase as the sustainable population falls from the mass extinction of species underway. This means that ideologies like Islam and self hate Leftism will get worse.

We see this in the hatred of Latin America for America and Europeans. This hatred has become toxically racist towards non native American groups. This reflects the overpopulation of the Americas. The rhetoric of hate from Hispanic groups and Latin American countries is an expression of the same demographic stress as the change in Islam from the 1960’s to the present.

Both will continue to become more extreme, violent and with greater rhetoric of hatred of Americans and Europeans based on race, religion, etc. The reaction of the elites is to increase current population more, and thus to cause extinction of species and thus lower the sustainable population. This increases the gap of current population minus sustainable population.

That increases the extinction of species, and it increases the rhetoric of hatred from Islam and Latin American leftism. We are getting farther and farther away from the 1950’s breathing spell we had. Our leaders think that is automatic. But in fact, it was an extreme aberration. That was the best time ever for the people of the West. Our leaders do everything possible to move away from that, including immigration and the rest of it.

Immigration to the developed world, increases the use of hydrocarbons and other resources faster than any other action. This then causes extinction of species and degrading of earth’s environment. It is the easiest of the bad policies are leaders follow to stop. We must stop immigration totally.

–Remover nukes from lands of demographic stress

We must remove all nukes from places of demographic stress, Pakistan, North Korea and incipiently Iran. While battle phase deaths are 200 or even 20,000 this must be done now. We must restore our military. We must do it all in 2 years, denuke North Korea and Pakistan and remove Iran’s nuclear program.

We delayed after 9-11. Time is against us and running out. Our leaders need a WWII sense of urgency, instead of the peace time rhythms of Congress.

–Gap of Population minus Sustainable Population drives Islam, Latin Leftism, anti-Westernism, and regional conflict.

Anti-American and anti Western Islam and Latin American Leftism increase as the gap between current population
and sustainable population increases. These combine with immigration to become doctrines of democide and genocide. The West responds with self-hate and aid which make the population gap larger, thus increasing the anti-Western hate. This will result in the extinction of Western populations followed by a collapse of the World population made worse by that extinction to a very low level.

Other advanced populations, including China and Japan and the elites in other countries will also collapse as this population bubble collapses in an implosion. The means to sustain population will then disintegrate, bringing the population even below the long term sustainable level, if a fully functioning advanced world was operating normally.

Just as Islam contributed to this process in the 7th century by attacking the Western superpower, the Eastern Roman Empire, so it contributes to it today. So does Third World Leftism, which also dominates our own institutes of learning, non-profits, NGO’s, the UN, corporations, and the MSM.

The third world blames the West using the terms at hand, Marxism, anti-colonialism or Islam, because it blames the West for anything that goes wrong. Aids arose because the third world population exceeded the sustainable level. This made the 3rd world human population an incubator of new disease. This was the response of the living biosphere to this cause of mass extinction of species. It was an equilibrium response to return the human population to the sustainable level, the level at which it does not cause extinction of other species. The third world blamed this new disease, caused by its own population bubble on the CIA.

In fact, it was the West by giving food aid, vaccinations, etc. that caused the third world population bubble and thus caused aids. The West stopped all the equilibrium mechanisms for population in the third world. The earth then stepped in with a new restoring force to equilibrium, aids.

Gates and Buffet, Sachs and Bono, travel the world making things worse. Immigration makes it worse by importing this population excess into the first world, and which uses energy at higher rates. The do gooders who travel the third world and want to relieve its misery by Western aid are a force against equilibrium.

Their response is to disrupt the equilibrium mechanism that restores current population to the sustainable population level, the level at which humans don’t cause extinction of other species. The Sachs Bono Buffet Gates types are increasing or maintaining the gap between the current population and the sustainable population.

This increases extinction of species and thus lowers the sustainable population. The result is an increase in the hatred of the third world for the first, and the increase of the hatred of immigrant groups from the third world inside the first world.

The result is an increase in radical Islam or radical Latin American Leftism. These operate inside and outside of the West. They result in rumors and a disconnect between reality and perception. They are the “bacteria of stupidity” spread by the NGO’s, left, World Bank, MSM, profs, rock stars, celebrities, movie stars, etc.

The result of this is war. It is war within the West and from outside. Pakistan, North Korea, Iran, etc. search for nuclear weapons. Unlike the 1950’s, this is at a time of extreme demographic stress. That results in a disconnect between actions and reality. Thus these weapons will be used.

The 1950’s was a time of mathematical analysis of mutual assured destruction between two stable societies. Now we are at a time of an unsustainable population bubble. That causes the third world to operate outside the reality zone. It also causes them to seek a new morality of global conquest and jihad, whether in Islam or Latin American Reconquista Leftism. This will be from within and without.

–MAD doesn’t work with demographic stress

Mutual assured destruction doesn’t work when one side is motivated by demographic stress, denial of reality and hate of the West. We can’t rely on MAD because it doesn’t apply to the situation. They view their population as unsustainable and excess themselves. If they trade some of their people for us, they view it as win win.

Equivalents of anti-Americanism will operate in Russia and China. The Litvinenko killing is the sort of madness killing miscalculation that will happen, but on a small scale. Its easier to understand than 9-11, but reflects the same underlying math.

In either case, the result is war, immigration, conflict, hatred, and racism on a toxic level. This is not assimilation. This is war for extinction based on extreme demographic induced hysteria and hatred. There is no reasoning with human populations in the grip of demographic stress and a population bubble. There is only the movement to the most extreme ideologies of hate and the using of all weapons available, including nuclear, birth rate, immigration, discrimination, crime, etc.

As the gap between current population and sustainable population increases, the gap between reality and perception increases as well. The result can only be the piercing of the population bubble in a cataclysmic process of destruction. This will be through and by anti-Western Latin American Leftism, extreme Islam, etc.

This article represents hypotheses, speculation, and opinion. All other disclaimers apply.

“Jim Webb, Democratic senator-elect from Virginia, has become a pompous poseur and an abuser of the English language before actually becoming a senator.”

Will is saying Webb is a poseur because Webb says he is for people. Webb wants to stop all guest worker. This includes H1B. Immigration harms young adults by taking away their job security. Without that they can’t get married, have kids and stay married.

Without that, our society loses purpose and meaning. That is precisely what people compalin of. Teens see they have no future and commit meaningless violence.

George Will is the pompous poseur. He is halfway in the K-Street door of the RINO elite that is for big immigration and considers Americans bigots for wanting to end it, all of it legal or illegal.

Will supports amnesty (admittedly Webb does too)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/29/AR2006032902004.html

Will supports unlimited H1B’s.

“Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.”

See also for a pro Will perspective:
http://carryonamerica.com/?p=134

“Will, Fred Barnes, Bill Kristol, and Paul Gigot do not support the more stringent Tancredo approach and Kristol even calls his approach “liberal.” More and more of the conservative pundits, minus Pat Buchanan, seem to favor this type of pragmatic approach.”

Some comments on Daily Kos about Will and Immigration

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/11/22/105650/65

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2006/11/22/105650/65/24#c24

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In today’s world, an economist is someone who can prove definitively that you have no right to have a job, or medical insurance, and that your job not only SHOULD be shipped to India, but an economically reasonable person would be EAGER to see their job off-shored.

That’s George Will. He is sitting there telling the rest of us that we have no rights to jobs, and that economic rationality means that all our jobs will soon go to China, and that we should be pleased with this.

by centerdem on Wed Nov 22, 2006 at 08:48:47 AM PST”

=== Comments from WaPo

Why doesn’t George Will just say he is for MSM government of the elite by the elite for the elite. He is condemnding Webb, lest government of the elite should perish from Washington D.C., WaPo and the rest of the MSM. I am surprised he didn’t attack Lou Dobbs and Tom Tancredo while he was at it.

Or maybe its government of the people by the elite for the elite.

Or government of the people by the prissy George Will for the elites.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2006112901267&start=621

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 1:05:44 PM

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“quote In todays world, an economist is someone who can prove definitively that you have no right to have a job, or medical insurance, and that your job not only SHOULD be shipped to India, but an economically reasonable person would be EAGER to see their job off-shored. Thats George Will. He is sitting there telling the rest of us that we have no rights to jobs, and that economic rationality means that all our jobs will soon go to China, and that we should be pleased with this. by centerdem on Wed Nov 22, 2006 at 08:48:47 AM PST dailykos 2006 endquote

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 9:14:39 AM”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2006112901267&start=221

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“You can’t be on good terms with Bush. Bush is against us and
against reason. Bush is on the side of the Baker Botts Bush family. Bush chose Prince Bandar after 9-11. He chose to be against America and cover up the Saudi Pakistan financed attack on America.
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Most of above on page 12 or 13.

quote WOW! Will must have hit a left nerve! Webb isnt so much a boor as he is just plain arrogant and obviously not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Webb had an opportunity to form a civil working relationship with Bush and he threw that opportunity away. He effectively made himself politically invisible to the White House and certainly useless to Virginia. And to think he achieved that even before taking office! Way to go, Webb! By JackESpratt | Nov 30, 2006 9:09:49 AM end quote. You cant be on good terms with Bush. Bush is against us and against reason. Bush is on the side of the Baker Botts Bush family. Bush chose Prince Bandar after 9-11. He chose to be against America and cover up the Saudi Pakistan financed attack on America.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 1:11:51 PM |

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2006112901267&start=641

page 33.

How far does the Post system run in numbering pages? It looks like its at the limit? If we reach the limit will Bush and the lobbyist bought Congress and their MSM flacks like Will all resign? At least will Will resign?

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 1:14:13 PM
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quote If anyone is an expert on pompous and being a poseur, its you, will. By pssixsix | Nov 30, 2006 2:37:07 PM end quote. That is the truth. Will is also an expert on toadying to power. Will knows how to keep down the people, he attacks the politicians elected to speak for them at his first chance. This was a calculated attack. Will was looking for his opening. Jim Webb ran as in effect the only Senator willing to speak up against guest worker, H1B, and the rest of the lies that Will spews out for his corporate paycheck.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 2:39:47 PM
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George Will is an anti-American bigot. You can hear it when he and the elite talk about immigration. They call us lazy and stupid. quote “Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.” end quote. That is from George Will. Translation: Americans are too dumb and lazy to learn math. This is anti-American bigotry. That is common to the elite. Biden, Kennedy, McCain, etc. constantly say Americans are too dumb and lazy to learn math.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 3:06:12 PM
The elite have a culture of hatred of Americans and express it openly. When they say Americans are too stupid for math and science, that is expressing their hatred of Americans.
By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 3:09:23 PM

Page 60
Jim Webb wants to end all guest worker programs. Will wants unlimited guest worker in all technical fields. Will thinks Americans are too dumb or lazy to do these jobs. Will wants to take away job security from young adults. If they can’t have job security, they can’t stay married after they have kids. Because they can’t stay married after they have kids, they won’t have kids. Because they won’t have kids, they won’t get married. Because they won’t get married, they don’t have to be paid well or get benefits. This is the elite mentality. Will is a spokesperson for the CEO’s. Webb is exposing that. This was a predesigned hit job. If not this, Will would have used something else for his hit job on Webb.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 6:32:29 PM

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George Will: Pharoanic Pompous Poseur Pedant Peurile Pentagonic Porous Photodegenerate Fallacious Fount of Phosphoric Fury Fibrillating Fantasy of Ferrous Foxlike Fabulous Phoenix Faux Fumes of Philly Foulness Fabricating Photovoltaic Fibers Foully Finking Fibbing Fishmongering Foulmouthing Files From Pools of Frogs Foulest Frothing Fiends Fool Fruity Forked Faust.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 8:38:33 PM

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“Obviously somebody`s orchestrating these flames. Pathetic.

By zjr78xva | Nov 30, 2006 8:52:17 PM”

Or did George Will touch some real resentment of the disloyal elite, of which he is the most egregious example?

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George Will wants to concentrate on the topic of rudeness, not loyalty to Americans. Saying George Will and George Bush arent loyal to Americans on guest worker is rude. Saying they are loyal only to their own in group is rude and crude. Webb is about displacing them. This is the sound of the George Will MSM being displaced from its throne to mock us for wanting job, physical, and speech security. We want to be heard, and George Will doesnt want us to be heard. Jim Webb speaks for Americans kept down and put down by George Will and George Bush for decades.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 9:18:07 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2006112901267&start=1321

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quote destruction of the middle class end quote.gaburdman | Nov 30, 2006 9:40:10 PM. That is exactly right. George Will and his cohorts on ABC have chortled over the decline of those they went to high school with or their children or grand children. They exult in their status. They have no loyalty at all to where they come from or who they come from. George Will personifies that above all others.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 9:45:43 PM

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George Will you are a Benedict Arnold to the American middle class. So is the MSM including the ABC team. So is George Bush. You took the side of Saudi Arabia. You took the side of what attacked us. You have covered up the 27 pages that Congress couldn’t publish.

quote Saudi Government Provided Aid to 9/11 Hijackers, Sources Say
By Josh Meyer
The Los Angeles Times

Saturday 02 August 2003

WASHINGTON – The 27 classified pages of a congressional report about Sept. 11 depict a Saudi government that not only provided significant money and aid to the suicide hijackers but also allowed potentially hundreds of millions of dollars to flow to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups through suspect charities and other fronts, according to sources familiar with the document.

One U.S. official who has read the classified section said it describes “very direct, very specific links” between Saudi officials, two of the San Diego-based hijackers and other potential co-conspirators “that cannot be passed off as rogue, isolated or coincidental.”

Said another official: “It’s really damning. What it says is that not only Saudi entities or nationals are implicated in 9/11, but the [Saudi] government” as well. end quote.

You and George Bush have betrayed the people of this country for your personal profit.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 9:52:36 PM

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WP EDITORS, also apologize to the American middle class for betraying it for the last 40 years since the 1965 Immigration Act. You can apologize for calling us bigots while you take away our job security. You can apologize to young adults who can’t get married, have kids and stay married because you have taken their job security for yourselves. George Bush can do the same. You can apologize for letting Pakistan keep its nukes after 9-11, while we wasted our lives in Iraq that has no nukes. You can apologize for our wasting our lives in Iraq instead of stopping North Korea from getting nukes. The American people do want to stop these dangerous regimes from getting nukes. George Bush betrayed us in Iraq.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 10:09:09 PM

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By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 10:12:16 PM

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quote “infinitely richer” end quote. This has over 40,000 hits in google. So its an acceptable figure of speech.

Dictionary com tells us one meaning is unbounded. If we plot the ratio of George Will’s pay to that of the median worker it continues to rise. If this process continued through time, it would be unbounded.

Webb’s comment was quote America’s top tier has grown infinitely richer and more removed over the past 25 years. end quote.

So as a process in time, it does appear unbounded. This ratio has increased without hitting the upper bound of our patience, yet.

You keep getting away with more immigration to keep us afraid. You take our job, education, physical and speech security from us.

We have to speak up anyhow. You and the rest of the MSM are surpised each time it happens. Lou Dobbs and Tom Tancredo and Jim Webb are something you dismiss, but the people don’t. They speak up for us.That’s what you hate, because in the end, its us that you have disdain and contempt for, not just Webb.

You are telling Webb, be quiet, take the money, and get along. Sell them out. Take Saudi money like Jim Baker. Take oil pipeline money like Baker Botts. Take it. Forget them.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 10:31:49 PM
Men’s median wages are below what they were in 1973. But George Will’s, George Bush’s, and Baker Botts are not.

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quote America’s top tier has grown infinitely richer and more removed over the past 25 years. end quote. Men’s median wages are no higher than in 1973. But George Will’s, George Bush’s, and Baker Botts are not. Could it be that Webb threatens the upward line of your compensation Mr. Will? If Webb sits down, is quiet and takes money, then your wages keep going up? Webb threatens your pocket book. For that you speak up. You want to keep us down, so your corporate masters will pay you more.

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quote The United States has asked for and received extraordinary help from Pakistan in the war on terrorism. end quote. From George Will, search George Will Pakistan.

quote Alabama and one in North Carolina, have significant numbers of textile workers. end quote

Whose jobs you want to give to Pakistan. What did Pakistan do for us in the war on terror? It may have helped finance 9-11. Now it supports the Taliban against our troops.

quote made short shrift of the Taliban end quote.

Not quite George. The Taliban is back, with the help of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.Those are your and George Bush’s allies against the American people.

Why do you speak up for countries that helped attack us on 9-11 and now support the insurgencies against our troops?

Why do you support unlimited H1B so that China can get our night vision and use it against our troops?

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 10:49:52 PM
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quote “Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.” end quote. From an earlier George Will column.

Search on Chinese night vision. China got our night vision and sells it to Pakistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia who supply it to the insurgents to use on our troops.

How do we save money to have our troops killed or maimed by our own night vision technology? Why do you have no loyalty to our troops? Jim Webb does. He wants our night vision technology and other advantages kept here, not given to George Bush allies like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to give to the insurgents to use against our troops.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 10:56:26 PM
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Search on Indian stealth Noshir Gowadia. He was born in India and sold our stealth technology to China. How does that save us money? After George Bush finalized the India Nuclear Deal, India did a deal with China. What do you know about India, China, etc. having kompromat on George Bush?

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 11:01:57 PM
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The real reason you hate James Webb, is that Webb is loyal to America and our troops, and George Bush and George Will aren’t. They use these as slogans but lie. They are both as disloyal to our troops as to our middle class.

They sell out our night vision and stealth technology to China as they sell out education opportunities in math and science at our own universities and our jobs in those fields. Those are supposed to be the high pay high benefit jobs.

We are supposed to sacrifice to get education for them, and then you take them from us and give them to people from India and China. Then they sell weapons based on that tech to Saudi Arabia, Iran and Pakistan that supply them to the insurgents to use on our troops. They and we are killed and maimed.

You say it saves money. It only saves you money and those you answer to, the Baker Botts law firms, lobbyists and big money interests that pay you and George Bush. Webb isn’t taking the money to be quiet, so you attack him on flimsy grounds.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 11:07:41 PM
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quote and even the conservative columnist George Will notes in the Washington Post, quote It is not fantasy that there have been many reports that the then-head of Pakistani intelligence was responsible for $100,000 being wired to Mohamed Atta, the lead 9/11 hijacker. end quote [Washington Post, 10/5/2003] end quote. from Cooperativeresearch. How can George Will be supporting George Bush in 2006 against Jim Webb, when he himself has pointed out in 2003 that Bush betrayed us on Pakistan? What does Will know about the relationship between Pakistan and George Bush? Why did George Will not oppose George Bush in 2004 because Bush covered up the Pakistan and Saudi Arabia role in financing 9-11, and in supporting and financing the insurgencies in Afghanistan and Iraq?

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 7:11:22 AM

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quote These pols play on the fantasies of mildly delusional voters. end quote from R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr., Unpleasant People’s Party, in Wash Times today.

So James Webb is hit from both barrels of the Washington establishment. They can’t stand a Senator who tells the truth.

quote mildly delusional voters end quote. Men’s real wages are below what they were in 1973. CEO and George Will wages are up.

Since 9-11, the price of oil has gone from about 25 dollars a barrel to over 60. So Saudi Princes income is up. Prince Bandar and Prince al Turki have done well with the Bush post 9-11 policy of blame Saddam.

But the American middle class is left behind. We need job security for young adults so they can get married, have kids and stay married. That means no immigration, no guest worker. That isn’t a delusion, its reality.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 8:54:07 AM
“A better tack on immigration“

By R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr.
December 2, 2005

“There is a market for immigrants in this country. The president is more cognizant of this than those who would restrict immigration. But consider the market for a minute: (1) producers need immigrants; (2) Immigrants come because there is work that enriches them. This market has helped the economy. It is growing robustly and without unemployment, one of the feared downsides of immigration or even illegal immigration. We are almost at full employment, and with 2 to 3 times as many illegal immigrants in the country as in the mid-1980s, when former Sen. Alan Simpson, Wyoming Republican, last addressed the immigration issue. That pretty much proves the economy can accept immigration and prosper.”

So Tyrrel is a big immigrationist, just like George Will. Both want to take away job security from young adults, thus depriving them of the essential security to get married, have kids and stay married.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Tyrrell

search R. Emmett Tyrell “immigration”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Spectator

“The American Spectator is a conservative U.S. monthly magazine covering news and politics, edited by R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr. and published by the non-profit American Spectator Foundation.”

“From its founding in 1967 until the late 1980s, the small-circulation magazine featured the writings of authors such as Thomas Sowell, Tom Wolfe, P.J. O’Rourke, George F. Will, Patrick J. Buchanan, Alex Linder and Malcolm Muggeridge,”
search American Spectator “George Will” 146,000 hits

So Tyrrell in the Washington Times is rushing to the defense of George Will against the reader response at Washington Post.

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Comment in Post:

Unpleasant people’s party?

By R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr.
December 1, 2006 This is another attack piece on Webb. This may be a response to yesterday’s reader response to George Will. Tyrrell published George Will in his American Spectator. Tyrrell like Will supports big immigration and guest worker.
quote There is a market for immigrants in this country. The president is more cognizant of this than those who would restrict immigration. But consider the market for a minute: (1) producers need immigrants; (2) Immigrants come because there is work that enriches them. This market has helped the economy. It is growing robustly and without unemployment, one of the feared downsides of immigration or even illegal immigration. We are almost at full employment, and with 2 to 3 times as many illegal immigrants in the country as in the mid-1980s, when former Sen. Alan Simpson, Wyoming Republican, last addressed the immigration issue. That pretty much proves the economy can accept immigration and prosper. end quote.

From “A better tack on immigration”

By R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr.
December 2, 2005 Washington Times.

Also at American Spectator

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10692

Tyrrell is part of the Washington big immigration establishment. Unemployment is low, but median wages for men are below what they were in 1973.

Tyrrell is pushing immigration for employers. Tyrrell is pushing down our wages and our benefits.

Young adults need job security. They need jobs with good wages and benefits. They need job security to get married, have kids and stay married.

They look forward and work backwards. They may not stay married with kids without a good job, especially for the man. Men’s wages are below what they were in 1973.

They won’t have kids if they are married if they don’t think they will have job security and stay married. So they don’t have kids while married.

Because they have figured out they won’t have kids if they get married, they don’t get married. So the lack of job security works its way backwards in their decision tree.

They can’t be sure they will stay married after having kids, so they don’t have kids while married. They forecast that, so they don’t get married.

Teenagers then see that they have no near term prospects of settling down. That takes away meaning from their lives. Their biological clock tells them to have kids as teens. But they see that men of all ages are losing good jobs and not getting new jobs with good wages, benefits, job security, and workplace dignity.

So teens go wilding without the prospect of entering a stable adult world as workers and parents. This undermines the entire stability of society. The result is crime. Teen crime shoots up. This is what happened after the 1965 Immigration Act. Congress created a crime wave. We are living in it still.

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Will quote “Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.” end quote.

Tyrrell quote There is a market for immigrants in this country. end quote.
Tyrrell and Will have supported Chinese and Indian grad students and H1B’s coming to America. They have gained our night vision tech and produce it in China and India and sell it to Pakistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia. They supply it to the insurgents to use against our troops. Tyrrell and Will have supported this know-how transfer and championed it.

Christians in Virginia and Indiana won’t listen to the left attack Tyrrell and Will. But they will listen to Webb. Webb is an authentic American hero. When he tells Christians in Virginia and Indiana that Tyrrell and Wil have given our night vision to Chinese grad students and now its
in the hands of insurgents who use it to kill and maim our troops, those Christians will listen.

That is why Tyrrell and Will fear Webb. Tyrrell and Will are not loyal to Americans. They are not loyal to the Christians in Indiana and Virginia who listen to them. Webb is someone those Christians will listen to and learn the truth that Tyrrell and Will have put our night vision in the hands of insurgents who kill and maim our troops.

They are being paid off by the Washington establishment and ultimately law firms and think tanks acting for China. Tyrrell and Will don’t want Christians in Virginia and Indiana to hear this from Webb. Neither do George Bush or John McCain.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 10:53:03 AM

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Two links from American Spectator website:

Tax Havens
Offshore Banking
Spectator is published by Tyrrell who has published Will articles in it. They are defending each other together. Jim Webb is against Tax Havens and Offshore Banking and the Washingont pundits who pretend to be for people but are really linked to this. This is another reason they don’t want Webb exposing them. Webb won’t just take money and be quiet. They want Webb to take the Washington money and pretend to be for people, like them. They want Webb to let China get our night vision and pretend to support our troops, like them. They want guest workers and grad students to take away our know-how and job security and pretend to be for the middle class, like them.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 11:02:41 AM

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quote

Do you think there is even a chance that George Will or any of the editors or WaPo are reading these comments to see how far off base they are with average Americans? Naw. That would imply that they care what we think when it is clear that they only like what is said in their little echo chamber. WaPo and mainstream news are headed the way of the dinasaur because they refuse to listen.
By Krotten1 | Dec 1, 2006 12:04:29 PM end quote.

You are right. They are saying we are disgruntled rodents. That is why they keep pushing guest worker, H1B, no Americans in physics and math Ph.D. programs, but 100,000 dollar fellowships for Chinese and Indians.

That is why they let China sell our night vision to Iran, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to supply to the insurgents to use against our troops, to kill them and maim them. They don’t talk to our troops very often. Why?

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 12:27:22 PM
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Will and MSM including ABC harm us by immigration. They have taken our job security. They prevent young adults getting married, having kids and staying married by taking their job security. They hate us because they have hurt us.

They can’t recognize our opinions as valid. They have to character assassinate us.

That is why they are attacking Webb. Webb speaks for our job security. They can’t stand to hear it. Webb is a hero. They have to degrade Webb in the same way they have degraded us.

quote Do you think there is even a chance that George Will or any of the editors or WaPo are reading these comments to see how far off base they are with average Americans? Naw. That would imply that they care what we think when it is clear that they only like what is said in their little echo chamber. WaPo and mainstream news are headed the way of the dinasaur because they refuse to listen. By Krotten1 | Dec 1, 2006 12:04:29 PM end quote.

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Will wants to damage the character of Webb. Will was looking for something. So was Tyrrell. They are fuax conservatives.

They have gone along with giving our high tech night vision to China and India through grad students, profs, and H1B’s. That night vision goes to Iran, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and then to the insurgents.

Will and Tyrrell know that Webb is against this. They don’t want him exposing them as not supporting our troops. This is a preemptive attack.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 6:03:09 PM

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The larger point is that Webb won’t be bought and will tell the truth. Webb can tell that Washington pundits are bought or at least rented on many issues. Or they sell themselves out on their own. These right wing pundits say they support our troops while they give our night vision to China through H1B, grad students, etc. That ends up with the insurgents who kill and maim our troops. That doesn’t save money. They take our educational opportunities in math and physics, our job security, our wages, our benefits, our careers, and then our technology ends up maiming and killing our troops. Webb is willing to tell this truth. He isn’t part of the immigration industrial complex. He isn’t part of the George Will spin complex. They are launching a pre-emptive attack. They were looking for something.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 9:00:38 PM

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When will Will ever learn, he’s what Webb has to warn us of.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 10:23:42 PM

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George Will “Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.”

Thursday, March 30, 2006; Page A23.

China’s Secret War
By Patrick Devenny
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 31, 2005

FBI Assistant Director Dan Szady:

“3,000 Chinese front companies that presently operate within the US. The main purpose of these pseudo-businesses, he said, is to facilitate often-illegal technology transfers to the Chinese government.”

This was in March 31, 2005, but Will in 2006 is still advocating that math and science at the Ph.D level be taught to Chinese and not Americans.

Webb has the opposite view. Will doesn’t want people who will listen to Webb to hear Webb expose Will’s continuing betrayal of our country.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 2, 2006 8:58:12 AM

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Will supports quote unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills end quote.

More from Chinas Secret War By Patrick Devenny FrontPageMagazine.com | March 31, 2005. quote At Beijing�s behest, Shih shipped cutting edge night vision technology to Chinese technical research centers, such as the North China Research Institute, which are closely linked to the PRC military. … But the damage had been done. Almost single-handedly, Shih destroyed America�s advantage in night optic technology�a critical component of our continuing dominance on the battlefield. end quote

This night vision is then sold to Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc. who supply it to the insurgents to use against our troops. What about supporting our troops? Webb does by stopping this. Will doesn’t by making it happen. That’s why Will wants to discredit and silence Webb.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 2, 2006 9:38:20 AM

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Will wants to be thought of as conservative and loyal to America. Webb upstages him on that. This is why Will attacks Webb.

George Will quote Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying. end quote.

Bill Gertz Wash imes re stealth tech stolen by China quote
Details of the classified defense technology related to the B-2’s engine exhaust system and its ability to avoid detection by infrared sensors were sold to Chinese officials by former defense contractor Noshir S. Gowadia, an Indian-born citizen charged with spying in a federal indictment released by prosecutors in Hawaii. end quote.

Webb is against the H1B program that made this possible. George Will is for it. Will can’t let middle Americans hear this from Webb. Will is preemptively discrediting Webb to avoid Webb pointing out that Will’s disloyalty (and bigotry) to the middle class is responsible for this.

FBI on Gowadia

Wash Times Editorial

search “Noshir Gowadia“

By OldAtlantic | Dec 2, 2006 4:09:27 PM
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quote deranged Bush hating fanaticism end quote. Bush wouldnt let the 27 pages of the 2003 Congressional report be published.

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Saudi Government Provided Aid to 9/11 Hijackers, Sources Say
By Josh Meyer
The Los Angeles Times

Saturday 02 August 2003

WASHINGTON – The 27 classified pages of a congressional report about Sept. 11 depict a Saudi government that not only provided significant money and aid to the suicide hijackers but also allowed potentially hundreds of millions of dollars to flow to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups through suspect charities and other fronts, according to sources familiar with the document.

One U.S. official who has read the classified section said it describes “very direct, very specific links” between Saudi officials, two of the San Diego-based hijackers and other potential co-conspirators “that cannot be passed off as rogue, isolated or coincidental.”

Said another official: “It’s really damning. What it says is that not only Saudi entities or nationals are implicated in 9/11, but the [Saudi] government” as well.

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Why doesnt let Bush let this be published now? George Will and George Bush must fear that Webb will want it published. quote moonbats. end quote.By OldAtlantic | Dec 2, 2006 6:05:46 PM
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George Will Nov 30, 2006: “… cavalier historical judgments — although is he sure that America is less egalitarian today than it was, say, 50 years ago, when only about 7 percent of American adults had college degrees? (Twenty-eight percent do today.) “

George Will in March 30, 2006: “Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.”

Webb is saying there is more income inequality today. Will in Nov 2006 says we have 28 percent college degrees, showing Americans are educated. But in March 2006, Will said Americans don’t learn anything in college, i.e. math and science, and that the school system can’t teach them.

If Americans can’t do hard stuff, as Will says in March, then more degrees won’t eliminate the income inequality. Will is willing to say anything based on what point he wants to make. Americans wrote the textbooks in calculus, Apostol, Spivak, Leithholds, etc. If Americans can write the textbooks, can’t they learn from them? Webb doesn’t have this anti-American bigot attitude that Will does, that’s why Will has to discredit him.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 3, 2006 8:48:26 AM

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George Will in March 2006 quote Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that Americas education system is not sufficiently supplying. end quote.

Chinese night vision has 2.4 million hits.

We invented night vision in the US but now the Chinese have it and it ends up with the insurgents killing and maiming our troops. It hurt Israel in Lebanon in 2006.

A fair question is whether through his many associations, think tanks, speaking fees, books overseas or used in US courses, etc. Will or any legal entity linked to him gets money from Chinese arms merchants? Is there merchant of death money (American GI’s deaths and maiming) that flows back to Will or any legal entity he has any link to from the know-how transfer to China by H1B’s, grad students, etc?

By OldAtlantic | Dec 3, 2006 1:51:20 PM
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Is Will a pompous poseur of disloyalty? Is Will the benefactor of Chinese merchants of death? Is Will a benefactor of the Chinese network that gained our night vision know-how?
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American Spectator

George Will and Tyrrell Bashing Webb:

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10696

..

Price of Oil

http://www.wtrg.com/prices.htm

Chart

http://www.wtrg.com/oil_graphs/oilprice1947.gif

From 1985 to 2003, the price of oil fluctuated between 10 and 30 dollars a barrell. Now its at 60 dollars. George Bush has helped Prince Bandar and Prince al-Turki. George Bush’s post 9-11 policies have helped Saudi Arabia.

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Saudi Arabia and Pakistan 9-11:

http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd09092003.html

by George Will

Fascism, Alive and Abroad
By George Will
Sunday, October 5, 2003

““It is not fantasy that there have been many reports that the then-head of Pakistani intelligence was responsible for $100,000 being wired to Mohamed Atta, the lead 9/11 hijacker.” [Washington Post. 5 October.')" onmouseout="return nd()">Washington Post, 10/5/2003]” Timeline
On George Will

Criticism: http://www.counterpunch.org/hughes0924.html

http://www.counterpunch.org/chuckman08222003.html

on R. Emmett Tyrrell

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_brass_id.asp

Two links from American Spectator:

Tax Havens
Offshore Banking

Chinese Spying

“How China Steals U.S. Military Secrets
A spate of recent spying cases opens the lid on China’s aggressive military buildup. What’s most troubling: It is based largely on U.S. technology.”

BY Simon Cooper

August 2006
Popular Mechanics

Fact Sheet
Bureau of Political-Military Affairs
Washington, DC
July 3, 2006

“U.S. Arms Export Control Compliance and Enforcement and the UN Program of Action for Small Arms and Light Weapons (SA/LW)”

http://www.state.gov/t/pm/rls/fs/68550.htm

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March 2006
SELECT ICE ARMS & STRATEGIC TECHNOLOGY INVESTIGATIONS

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China’s Secret War
By Patrick Devenny
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 31, 2005
search China ” night vision” arrested

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