The left is saying that Obama is good because raised by his white grandparents. But that Sarah Palin is bad because she may have taken her child’s child as her own to raise.
We can sum this up as:
Obama was raised by his grand parents at key parts of his life, and has little loyalty towards his grandmother, like seeing her grandkids on his last trip to Hawaii which apparently never happened, but expects much of her. On the other hand, if Palin raises a grandchild as her own to avoid shame to the child and an inexperienced parent, that’s a shame on Palin. That’s covering up and keeping information from her supporters who would otherwise trash her for having a teen have a baby.
Vanishing American on this issue has great post
I actually think it would be to their credit, were it true. In ‘old America’ it was not unheard of for parents or other family members to raise a ‘chance child’ as theirs, thus keeping the child within the family fold while not offering an occasion for scandal to the neighbors. I know of a few cases like this among the older generations, wherein a child was adopted and raised by the grandparents as one of their own children. In some cases, neighbors knew this to be the case, and yet it was simply not talked about.
I agree with you VA.
MSM: Edwards, Clinton, etc. they protect for their activity. The MSM doesn’t think Edwards has any responsibility for the child “if” its his.
MSM: Sarah Palin secretly taking responsibility for her granddaughter and raising her without shame is bad, because she even thinks its shameful. Of course, in MSM world, its the hypocrisy that offends them. She is the same as Edwards but she pretends to be better and hides it from her cave dwelling supporters by pretending her wild teen’s child is her own instead of proudly saying its out of wedlock. If she actually believes its a shame, and isn’t doing it just to deceive her supporters, that is worse. Of course, with Edwards that is different. That was just the Republican smear machine. Anyone who disagrees with these MSM views is benighted and likely a covert member of you know what organizations.
Of the 4 people on the tickets, if I had to keep one and throw the rest, I would toss the other 3.
The alleged photo that proves she wasn’t pregnant in February 2008
Where does it say a candidate for president like Obama doesn’t have to reveal his hospital of birth, birth certificate, Indonesian school, religious institution, passport, identity card files, Pakistan passport usage, US passport files, and whatever is in Kenya, Canada, Washington State, Pakistan ISI files, or Saudi files? But on the other hand, a woman has to reveal the birth certificate of her daughter/grand-daughter?
Obama should produce his own birth certificate before he demands the birth certificate of Palin’s child. His supporters should stop calling for the b.c. of Palin’s child, Trig, while calling Texas Darlin and others names for asking for Obama’s b.c.
See Following comment from Raw Story thread
August 31st, 2008 at 13:07:07 From:
McCain’s Anti-Choice Choice
McCain’s selection of Gov. Sarah Palin to serve as his VP, is for all intents and purposes, a ridiculous attempt to hoodwink the angry pro-Hillary supporters in America to come over to his camp and is the most insulting, condescending, slap in the face to women I have ever seen on such a scale. And the most frightening aspect is – there are many women AND men who will fall for this complete load of crap and do just that. Progressives need to understand that Sarah Palin is no friend to women. She is rabidly anti-abortion, pro-abstinence, plus she has an intense hatred of the gay and lesbian community, is a card carrying member of the NRA and opposes any legislation to put any requirements on gun ownership, is anti-environment/anti-species protection, pro big oil, highlighted her opposition” to “that bridge to nowhere” — but not her previous reported support for it. She and her husband are ‘said’ to have five kids, the last one being born with Downs Syndrome. But there is an intense debate going on over the suspicion that this fifth child could possibly be that of her oldest daughter. People in the know (classmates) claimed Palin’s daughter had developed a bit of a paunch and then disappeared from school for over five months (some say it was eight). The reason given for her absence was that she had a prolonged case of “mono”. Now, mono can last anywhere from two weeks to three months, but an eight month infection is a freak oddity. Now, for those who don’t know, this is a typical excuse given by many Christian parents to cover up and avoid the terrible stigma of their teenage daughters becoming unwed mothers. And being the daughter of such a high profile, bible thumper as Gov. Palin is, bearing a child out of wedlock has the potential to do even more damage to her mother’s overly pious image and squeaky clean reputation. Sarah Palin’s aides and co-workers were completely unaware that she was pregnant until early March. And they claim she never actually appeared or behaved as if she were pregnant. She continued to wear the same clothing she had worn up to that time and had shown no perceptible bulge to anyone’s recollection. She claims she was at an energy conference in Texas when her water broke. Then she related that it was only a slow leak of amniotic fluid and not a full gush. Then she claims she gave a 30 minute speech, while in labor, left the hall and got on a plane for the long, eleven hour ordeal and eight hour flight back to Alaska. None of the people at the conference, flight attendants or the pilots were ever told of or made aware of her condition. Her plane then made a landing in Anchorage, Alaska. Does Sarah then visit a medical facility that can accommodate a premature birth in Alaska’s most equipped city? No. She drives 45 minutes away, to Mat-Su Regional Medical Center, right outside the small village she used to govern as Mayor, Wasilla. “Trig Palin” is then delivered one month premature, Friday night. Sarah returned to work after three days. The inherent need to absolutely have Trig delivered in a remote and possibly ill-equipped facility for premature deliveries, where Sarah would likely have numerous contacts and the control to keep things from the media, does not sit well. The doctor, Cathy Baldwin-Johnson, approving of all of these actions borders on malpractice. Not properly treating leaking amniotic fluid leakage can cause severe infections, and time is of the essence after one’s water breaks. The final point of interest in this story is that Trig Palin has been diagnosed with Down’s syndrome . This is an interesting point, as chances of having offspring with Down’s Syndrome increases from under 1% to 3% after a mother reaches the age of 40. Although many supporters who are trying to throw water on this story, claiming it’s nearly impossible for a teenage girl to have a Down’s baby, 80% of the cases of Down’s Syndrome are in mother’s under the age of 35 through sheer quantities of births in this age group. Adding even more fuel to the fire on this story, the Alaska Department of State has now removed all photos of Sarah Palin and her family from their website. Word of the pregnancy scandal is spreading around the Internet like wildfire. According to one source, people “in the know” from Alaska are stating it is true, and that Sarah Palin did hide her daughter’s pregnancy. And that the child, Trig Palin, very likely belongs to her daughter, Bristol. And why else does this matter? Sarah Palin is intensly anti-abortion. Great to see she sticks to her guns. But it’s too bad she felt some need to lie about her own daughter being pregnant because of the fact that: Sarah Palin is an avid proponent to abstinence only education. Maybe this needs repeating. Sarah Palin is an avid proponent to abstinence only education. One more time! Sarah Palin is an avid proponent to abstinence only education. Are we beginning to get the picture? Seems as though she needs to spend more time being a mom and less time being a politician if her own daughter was getting knocked up at the tender age of 16, or if Sarah has a new baby that requires extra special care. If Bristol Palin truly did give birth to Trig Plain on April 18, 2008 then this blows open a huge hole in her highly touted, flawlwess, Christian parenting abilities and the abstinence only arguments she supports. Keeping a close watch on your teenage daughter’s activities and behavior is something most responsible parents have known for years, regardless of the intensity of their religious beliefs or political affiliation. You need to educate your kids about sex, but you also need to make them understand there are preventative measures that can be taken when there is a rejection of the abstinence argument. It also shows that John McCain has obviously made one more bad decision in a long string of bad decisions. Lying, secrecy and deceit have become so much a part of the Republican’s modus operandi over the past 30 years that it will likely be very difficult to ever get to the truth of this matter. The fact that it could have been her daughter that gave birth to this child is not the problem though. The problem is the cover-up and her ability to do so with such success that this may be the big attraction that the Neocons had been looking for in a female candidate. So, if this is true, to hell with her political inexperience, right? She’s the kind of champion John McCain’s administration needs when it comes to pulling the wool over the eyes of her gullible supporters and constituents. She can attract the women’s vote and she can be trusted to toe the line when it comes to continuing the lies and deceit if McCain were to kick the bucket during his term of office.
August 31st, 2008 at 13:40:31 From:
13:07:07 – you may want to also check her oldest child’s birthdate against her wedding date and do that calculation.
August 31st, 2008 at 14:16:26 From:
The above comments are almost exactly the same as the spoof version. Those in the Obama reality zone are predictable. That means Obama is too. Which means he will follow his heart not his head. That’s not good for us.
Article II of the US Constitution requires the president be natural born, not that the son of the vice president be her own child instead of her grand child. BTW, Trig is a natural born US citizen and not a dual citizen like his mom, whoever his mom is. Sarah, Bristol and Trig Palin and in fact the entire Palin family are all natural born US citizens and once 35 all of them qualify under Article II. But Obama’s extended family can’t say that. Its Obama who has to prove that he is a natural born citizen, not Trig to prove which Palin was his mother. Obama has to reveal his files from Indonesia, Hawaii, US Passport office, Pakistan travel in 1981, etc. He has to prove in Philadelphia in the Berg lawsuit that he is a natural born citizen and was never a dual citizen. But the AP photo says he was a citizen of Indonesia and the US Supreme Court has upheld cases of losing US citizenship by a similar fact pattern.
==Daily Kos photos and videos of Sarah Palin during period in question prior to birth of Trig Palin.
Kos article says Sarah Palin not mother.
There could be calls below to delete this information. Calls that this type of information is muckraking and ‘below us’. The truth is not below any progressive, nor any citizen of the world that is one heartbeat away from having Palin as leader of the free world. We simply ask that she be forthright, honest, and not waste our time with such juvenile games that anyone with eyes can see as fabrication.
Bristol Palin rightfully should be able to embrace her child in public as her own, with no shame, and no quarter. And a mother should be just as accepting.
Obama Zone Reality = spoof. This is why the New Yorker cover was the same as reality.
Great links below:
Early post on it:
Wasilla Police Department
On February 8, 2008, at 1737 hours, Wasilla Police responded to two vehicle collision at Seward Meridian Parkway and Fireweed Drive . Investigation revealed that Bristol Palin, age 17 of Wasilla, was driving a 4-door sedan and attempted to turn into a business when she struck a 2-door sedan driven by Joshua Moffet, age 19, of Wasilla. Palin was issued a citation for Failing to Use Due Care to Avoid a Collision. Moffet was issued a citation for an expired registration and no proof of insurance. 4:15 PM – 7 Comments – 8 Kudos
Some local Alaska comments:
The whole story is based on an insulting view of fundamentalist Christians; that they’d be so freaked out by a teenage pregnancy that they’d have the Governor — the most highly visible and public women in the small fishbowl of Alaska — fake a pregnancy to cover up the sins her of daughter Bristol.