Archive for December, 2008

The subprime gene depression

December 29, 2008

Steve Sailer has pointed out the unPC causes of the subprime mess.  See

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/081228_diversity.htm

He points out we have a depression from a lowering of human capital.   In short, we have subprime genes and the country is going down because of the importation of subprime genes from abroad and growing them at home.  Until those two things are stopped, we can’t stop digging the hole deeper.

We have a depression from subprime:  genes, talent, ethics, honesty, integrity, and sacrifice.  We have an increase in diversity caused corruption, graft, and intimidation.  In short, we are in what seems an ideal world to Jeb Bush, George Bush, Mel Martinez, Bobby Jindal, Mike Pence, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, and Bernie Madoff.  The Madoff politicians and MSM are who rule us now and have for some time.

Sailer is trying to craft language that the MSM can pick up instead of just saying its the genes.  This is because they picked up his earlier work on the unPC causes of the subprime mess.  So they may pick up on this.  Their budget now is limited, so plagiarism is cheap.  Moreover, men’s median wages are the same as in 1973, see p60-235.pdf graph page 19.  So the MSM are losing customers who can’t afford to pay for those who root for their replacement.  Sam Zell is losing money on his investment as are others from this simple economic fact.

Anthrax spores indels morphs FBI arithmetic

December 28, 2008

Vahid Majidi is the head of the FBI’s WMD unit.  He has put forward the theory of indel identification based on the work of himself and his team including outside scientists.  Jacques Ravel is one of the scientists who has worked on this.

However, there are assumptions and pitfalls in this claim that may result in the whole thing being junk science, i.e. they can’t identify RMR1029 the flask at Ft. Detrick of Bruce Ivins as the source to the exclusion of the other 1000 flasks tested or some subset larger than 8.

In 1981, Ames strain was isolated from a single cow.  That cow likely ingested anthrax spores from the soil or water, became sick and died.  Some of the anthrax was then sent on in the form of a blood sample or ear.  The lethal dose in humans for inhalation anthrax is often stated as 10,000 spores.  For a cow to ingest it, the dose didn’t show up in internet searches.  Cattle farmers and human volunteers for determining the exact lethal dose in cows and humans seem to be scarce.

The FBI claims to have asked 1000 labs to send samples.  From these they grew anthrax colonies and allegedly identified which colonies showed different appearance, morphs, and then from that identified indels, changes in the DNA molecule.   Whether that really is true is something the FBI needs to prove.

If they grew 1000 colonies from each lab, that is the same as testing 1000 spores for the indels.  Within a spore how many DNA molecules are being tested?  We can assume its one for now, but it is really more.  This introduces an additional complication, which we ignore for now.

The FBI claim is that the original Ames strain had one morph despite the cow having ingested more than one spore to get sick and die.  The cow might have ingested a microgram of anthrax spores.  1 gram has 1 trillion spores, so a microgram has 1 billion spores.  If the cow ingested 1 billion spores, and the FBI tested 1000 labs x 1000 colonies (= spores) each then the FBI tested 1 million spores total v. the 1 billion spores the cow ingested in that scenario.

The FBI claims that 8 morphs evolved from 1981 to 2001 from the Ames Strain and that it tested for 4 and that the original Ames spore sample had one single indel type in it.

Alternative Hypothesis: All 8 morphs the FBI has found of indels were present in the 1981 sample of spores that killed the cow and were eventually transmitted to the US research community.

Under the FBI hypothesis, 8 indels evolved in 20 years with a small amount of anthrax in labs.  But shouldn’t nature over millions of years have evolved a lot more?  If 8 indels are produced every 20 years in the labs with a few small runs, then shouldn’t nature have produced a staggering number of indels in wild anthrax?  This can be tested by testing wild Ames anthrax for how many indels there are, and whether they include the 8 the FBI has found in lab anthrax from the single Ames source.

Is it really true that no more wild anthrax was added to the lab stocks and thus added wild indels grown over the last million years on the entire planet earth?

One comparison to keep in mind is the 1 million spores tested by the FBI total, or perhaps 100 thousand to 10 million tested to what the cow ingested, which could have easily been 1 billion spores.

What anthrax colonies look like:

http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/NR/rdonlyres/DD661CCD-4E1E-4918-832B-DA66873C6037/0/ANDB3E_1.JPG

To test 1000 labs, they grew 1000 colonies each for a total of 1 million colonies?  Then they looked at them to identify the strange ones?  If one looks at above photo of anthrax this seems preposterous.  One person did the looking or many people?  At the source labs or at a central lab?  Someone at a central lab looked at 1 million colonies?  How long did that take?  Aren’t these differences in colony appearances subjective?  Don’t colonies grow randomly?  Isn’t that how the colony photos on the Internet look?

==

If they claim they do a million colonies per lab flask source, then how do they inspect them?  1 second each is 1 million seconds per lab flask.  3600 seconds in an hour, so about 300 hours per lab flask.

If they claim they can look at them all at once and see the morphs, then is that believable given the photo above?  If one has a million they aren’t all flat one colony layer thick.  So you can miss them behind them.

Once still gets statistics issues if one of the indels has a low probability frequency.

There is also the issue of how much variation there is in colony appearance from other factors.  Are they fooling themselves on the link from indel to morph appearance?  Isn’t there additional random variation?  Is the causal relation tested?  As a statistical relation?  Have they formulated classifications of the variation of visual appearance for the same indel?  Can they use statistics for that?  How do they do statistics if all identification is visual, just looking at a million colonies at a time?

How do they manage all this without errors creeping in?  How do the get it into numbers on computer hard drives to keep track of?  What data is on computer hard drives?  What isn’t?

Can they simulate the entire process from the cow in 1981 to present including the testing and the statistical variation in everything?

Rough Notes:

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/bioter/theamesstrain.html

lethal dose of anthrax is 10000 spores?


A lethal infection is reported to result from inhalation of about 10,000–20,000 spores, though this dose varies amongst host species.[13]

lethal dose in stomach of cow is more than inhalation anthrax
in humans?

and it can eat more than the minimum lethal dose.

so it ate 1 million spores?

and those had more indel morphs than testing
10000 colonies from a lab.

1000 labs have lab assistants from anywhere in the world.

who don’t care.

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/bioter/theamesstrain.html

cow ingested at least 10,000 but more likely 1 million
to 1 billion spores.

http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/vetext/INF-BE_cca/INF-BE_cca01/INF-BE_cca0112.html
http://www.cattletoday.com/archive/2001/November/CT177.shtml

== More rough notes

equation author:J  author:Ravel

author:v-majidi

==

compartmentalization and lack of understanding what doing.

==

If they grow 1000 colonies from a lab flask, that is more work to identify the morph ones.  There must be random variation in the appearance.  Different people are doing this work.

From NYT

“Then an Army microbiologist from Fort Detrick made an unexpected discovery. Using an old-fashioned microbiological technique, he spread out some attack spores on a bed of nutrient and let each form its own colony. All the colonies looked identical except one, which, to his trained eye, seemed very slightly different. Different-looking colonies are called morphotypes or just “morphs.”

“Had that task been assigned to someone less experienced, these morphotypes might never have been seen or their significance never realized,” Dr. Fraser-Liggett said.”

So out of the 1000 labs tested, some had untrained eyes looking at the colonies grown.  If each lab grew over 1000 colonies that is a problem for untrained eyes.  Also compartmentalization made it harder to achieve consistency.  People would need to be trained what to look for.

So if they grow 1000’s of colonies per lab flask, then untrained eyes will glaze over to miss the perhaps single morph colony to be found.  If they grow under 100 colonies they miss growing the morph colonies because the article says they are under 1 percent each.

==Some posts at Meryl Nass on this

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6592607595936297457&postID=4547196115304895388&isPopup=true

http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2008/12/new-details-from-genomic-forensic.html

To avoid confusion, the FBI or someone has to give names to each morph and list in a table which ones were in which letters.

Its possible that there is also not a unified definition of what 4 variants means in the project. Some people think it means some sort of original plus 4 additional and others think that 4 means the 4 named morphs that are distinct from the original.

They should also have a photo of each colony and its name and explain why they think they look different from other morphs and what the variation of appearance is when the same morph is present.

Also, what are the percentages of each morph in the original flask and in the other 7 flasks (or is it 8?) that have it. Give the name of each lab that has the same batch as at Detrick.

Also what about other morphs they decided not to pursue? Science is supposed to falsify hypotheses not just convict dead men. How about a second team tries to break the first one’s results by finding other morphs not in the Ft. Detrick flask but in someone else’s?

December 26, 2008 2:02 PM

Old Atlantic Lighthouse said…
What about a single morph in one letter that is only in one lab flask? Or is in a lab flask different than RMR1029 and not in RMR1029? Those cases should be pursued next. Basically, any morph in any letter is back tested against all the flasks. Publish the entire table.

December 27, 2008 4:22 PM

Blogger Old Atlantic Lighthouse said…
The FBI’s thinking is: We know in advance the letter anthrax all came from a single flask, that of the lone nut. They decided that in advance, and their methodology builds that in. However, if one drops that assumption, there are other possibilities. Two or more sources sent independently. Two or more with mixing after powder is produced, possibly because not enough, and so on.

December 27, 2008 4:26 PM

Blogger Old Atlantic Lighthouse said…
“he spread out some attack spores on a bed of nutrient and let each form its own colony. All the colonies looked identical except one, which, to his trained eye, seemed very slightly different. Different-looking colonies are called morphotypes or just “morphs.””

You can’t tell until you grow them if they are different. So the anthrax in the letters can contain any number of morphs. Unless you grow all the anthrax in a letter you can’t know if you got all the morphs in the letter. So we have to have a stopping rule. One stopping rule is do all. But they probably kept some.

“Dr. Ravel was asked to decode seven more morph genomes,”

So 8 morphs total.

But there could be more.

The entire procedure had a stopping rule of convicting a lone wolf scientist. Stop growing and testing and comparing when you do that. But that is not trying to disprove your hypothesis.

December 27, 2008 4:39 PM

Blogger Old Atlantic Lighthouse said…
Maybe the 8 labs that found all 4 morphs were the 8 labs that grew 1000 or more colonies? The other labs grew fewer colonies? Monte Carlo was used at Los Alamos early on. Vahid Majidi is from Los Alamos.

We need a table of how many colonies grown by each lab and which morphs they found. We also need to know how many times they went back to grow more colonies from the Ivins flask until they got all 4 from that flask they were looking for, and whether they decided which of the 8 to look for after they concluded 4 were not in the Ivins flask.

December 27, 2008 7:25 PM

Blogger Old Atlantic Lighthouse said…
“Though 99 percent of its spores were identical with the Ames ancestor, some 1 percent or less were morphs. ”

” As the morphs became available, the F.B.I. started testing samples. At first, some had one or two of the morphs. None had three of the morphs.

By late 2005 to 2006 it became clear that just eight of the 1,070 samples collected included all four morphs.”

Because they started growing more colonies when they didn’t find all 4?

Let p[i][j] be the percentage of morph i in flask j. This is not a constant of nature. A flask can have a low percentage but still be there. If one grows 1000 colonies and p[i][j] is .01 in one flask and
.0001 in another, then you may not get it when testing that flask.

If a person was the bad guy he could just grow fewer colonies from his flask and he would not get all 4.

What about the Ivins sample that didn’t test out? Which morphs if any did it have, how many colonies grown, etc.

How long have these morphs existed? How often do they form on their own? The same morphs are formed easily all the time? They all come from a single Ames lab source from 1981? Or other wild Ames has been added to lab stocks which had the morphs from hundreds or thousands of years ago?

If all lab Ames is from a single 1981 source, then wild Ames should have lots of different morphs. That could be tested.

December 27, 2008 8:51 PM

==

.99^99 = .37

Suppose .5 taking into account error to see it.

1/2 for each of the 4.  so 1/16.

and prob is under .01

of all 4 under .01

then say

.0025

.9975

1/4 * 1/100 * .9975

so more like 1/10 to see one.

in that case, its 1 in 10,000

.9975^99 = 0.78050831

16/1000

.0016^.25 = 0.2

so if it was .2 to see one of them, then
to see 4 is .0016 and out of 1000 labs that is 16.

.008^.25 = 0.299069756

.3

so if the chance to see one of the colonies is .3 per lab flask
then we get odds of 8/1000 to see all 4.

so out of 1000 flasks we get 8.

==

Suppose taking into account all factors, the percentage in the flask, the colonies grown, error in seeing the few morphs, the chance is .3 per morph per lab flask to see a morph.  Then to see 4, one takes
.3^4 which is .0081.  So out of 1000 labs, one finds all 4 8 times.  In this case, all of the labs had the 4 morphs just only 8 detected them.

The total of all 4 morphs from the NYT article appears to be under 1 percent, so .25 percent each.  This might work out to the .3 chance to see a morph depending on the number of colonies grown and accuracy to identify the few morphs.

==

number of colonies grown is likely random.

and multiple spore source is also random.

and may impact colony appearance.  which one dominates if
different?  or its unique?

==

actually, need to consider

1000, 4 type factor as well?

it should average out?

compute average and standard deviation.

average is

np?

==

the indels have been there since 1981 and
are the same in Wild Ames?  they evolved thousands
of years ago.

think of how many would exist in the 1981 source
if 8 had evolved in 27 years.

if they evolved that fast in a few runs, then
evolution would have produced thousands of them in the
original Ames strain.

==

If 8 morphs had evolved from a single strain from 1981 and the 1981 had one only it doesn’t make sense.  If 8 evolve in 20 years to 2001, then the 1981 Ames should have had many many indels already each producing different colonies. I.e. evolution should have produced more than 1 indel in some sample taken in 1981.

It makes more sense that the 8 were all there in 1981 and that the chance to see each morph and record it correctly is .3 per morph per lab flask, so that 8 were seen randomly.  The letters were handled with more care and more colonies grown perhaps, so they identified those somewhat more accurately despite small fractions of the indels.

100bp = 1 percent = .01

1bp = .0001

= 1/10,000th

1ppm = .01 bp = .000001

the 4 morphs could be

.005,.003,.002,.001

ie 50bp,30bp,20bp,10bp

or

50bp, 10bp, 1bp, 1bp

or

5000ppm,1000ppm,100ppm,10ppm

if 1000 labs look at 1000 colonies that is 1 million colonies.

if a morph is in the frequency of 10ppm, then 10 labs see it
even though all have it.

If the original Ames sample was 10000 spores its a similar
set of statistics.    If the Ames was taken from one cow infected
by a single spore then it could have a single morph.  If
the Ames was taken from anthrax sourced from 1000 random spores, then its similar to 1000 colonies.  However, random wild spores should have more indels since there has been a long time to create them.  This can be tested against wild spores today.

There is also the question of the identification of these
colonies by sight.  Is that science or make believe?  Has the
method to identify colonies itself been tested?  And all
1000 labs used such a method?  Or its 1000 different people
looking at 1000 colonies each and making up their own rules
as to which colony is of a specified appearance?

==Following more repetitive rough notes including to some of the Meryl Nass posts

If you take anthrax powder and spread it out and grow it, isn’t it random which spores produce colonies?  So some morphs in the sample don’t grow to colonies and some do?  So it requires a statistical test?  Looks like the entire procedure needs to be tested by going forward and then backward under controlled conditions.  Also start with single flask or with multiple flasks with different morphs or overlapping morphs and see what happens.

Trillion spores anthrax only a few become colonies.

==

Each letter had about 1 trillion spores.  So they didn’t grow 1 trillion colonies, they grew say 10 to 100 or 1000.

Suppose out of the 8 morphs mentioned at one point, each is present in a sample (flask or letter) in the amount of one percent each.  If you grow 100 colonies from that flask or letter, then for those morphs you have a 1 in 100 chance to get it.

This applies to letters and to lab flasks.  They had 1000 labs they tested?  8 had the 4 morphs they were checking for?  If all 1000 labs had all 8 morphs but each lab grew 100 colonies per lab, then how many labs would have the 4 show up?

What if some labs grew 50 colonies?  What is some grew 10?  What if the Ivins flask, they grew 10,000 colonies and the other labs they grew 100 colonies?

There are quants from Lehman with nothing to do, why don’t they hire them to do Monte Carlo.

==
Maybe the 8 labs that found all 4 morphs were the 8 labs that grew 1000 or more colonies?  The other labs grew fewer colonies?  Monte Carlo was used at Los Alamos early on.  Vahid Majidi is from Los Alamos.

We need a table of how many colonies grown by each lab and which morphs they found.  We also need to know how many times they went back to grow more colonies from the Ivins flask until they got all 4 from that flask they were looking for, and whether they decided which of the 8 to look for after they concluded 4 were not in the Ivins flask.

==

compartmentalization helps you fix the science to the defendant.

Vahid has a good career ahead of him, on Wall Street.

Maybe the 8 labs that found all 4 morphs were the 8 labs that grew 1000 or more colonies?  The other labs grew fewer colonies?  Monte Carlo was used at Los Alamos early on.  Vahid Majidi is from Los Alamos.

We need a table of how many colonies grown by each lab and which morphs they found.  We also need to know how many times they went back to grow more colonies from the Ivins flask until they got all 4 from that flask they were looking for, and whether they decided which of the 8 to look for after they concluded 4 were not in the Ivins flask.

morph undel anthrax

how many spores produce a colony?  one?
or multiple?

multiple inheritence so to speak.

the appearance?  random walk or fractal or some
other stochastic complication?

unknown fractions of the undel dna in the
flasks and letters.

they don’t have the same frequency.

so number needed is variable.

==

“Though 99 percent of its spores were identical with the Ames ancestor, some 1 percent or less were morphs. ”

” As the morphs became available, the F.B.I. started testing samples. At first, some had one or two of the morphs. None had three of the morphs.

By late 2005 to 2006 it became clear that just eight of the 1,070 samples collected included all four morphs.”

Because they started growing more colonies when they didn’t find all 4?

Let p[i][j] be the percentage of morph i in flask j.  This is not a constant of nature.  A flask can have a low percentage but still be there.  If one grows 1000 colonies and p[i][j] is .01 in one flask and
.0001 in another, then you may not get it when testing that flask.

If a person was the bad guy he could just grow fewer colonies from his flask and he would not get all 4.

What about the Ivins sample that didn’t test out?  Which morphs if any did it have, how many colonies grown, etc.

How long have these morphs existed? How often do they form on their own?  The same morphs are formed easily all the time? They all come from a single Ames lab source from 1981?  Or other wild Ames has been added to lab stocks which had the morphs from hundreds or thousands of years ago?

If all lab Ames is from a single 1981 source, then wild Ames should have lots of different morphs.  That could be tested.

==

radiation causes the morphs?  or what?  stimulates them at
higher rate?  based on what is going on in the lab, altitude,
etc?

stochastic appearance of a colony?  multiple spore
origin of a colony?

other conditionds during growth, special appearance
depends on the indel and on one or more additional
factors?

==Possible Vahid Majidi responses:

Defense: We grow 1 million colonies per lab flask and use visual inspection.

Q: Did you take flasks that didn’t show colonies with the 4 morphs and see if they had the purported causal indels anyhow?  This could look at whether other factors are needed in combination to produce the purported different shapes (morphs)  or that the purported different shapes are just imaginary.   Stochastic processes are known to fool humans by producing patterns that are random.  Did you try to see if that was happening?  If so how?  How did you get data into computer files for statistical analysis if visual id was your method?

Stop immigration to save families heal unemployment

December 24, 2008

Bush Obama Group have said nothing about saving people’s jobs and families by ending all immigration while unemployment goes up.  Even guest worker is going full blast while the companies lay people off.  People need to wake up and start calling their Congressman and Senator. If you are unemployed let them know you want all immigration stopped.

This includes H-1b, guest worker, Agjobs, Skil Bill, student visas (which have work embedded in them), family reunification, Somali asylum, and the rest.  These senators think we are chumps to have voted for them when they are taking our jobs or keeping our wages down with their immigration.  They despise us for voting for them.  Next time, vote against the incumbent if there is any immigration still going.

http://vaip.us/

Men’s median wages are the same as in 1973.  See graph page 19:

http://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1213928&blobtype=pdf

We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/24/news/economy/jobless_claims/index.htm

http://www.rawstory.com/comments/58485.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/us-economy-posts-worst-results-for-27-years-1210061.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/24/AR2008122401234.html?hpid=topnews

Incoming Senator Mark Warner has boosted immigration, guest workers, student visas and know-how transfer to India and China. He is a lobbyist for India and China against US workers. Time for him to change. Stop all immigration while unemployment is above 3 percent (in any demographic group).  (And during Christmas, if there is any above 1 percent in any demographic group.)

Jim Webb why did you go mute? Why don’t you speak up to stop immigration while we don’t have jobs? Stop listening to the donors you meet several times a week, people like Mark Warner and start listening to us.

http://h1b-visa-data.com/states.html

Comments closed at Takimag by Taki and Spencer

December 24, 2008

Comments closed at Takimag.  Why?

http://www.takimag.com/sniperstower/article/no_comment/

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Posted by Richard Spencer on December 23, 2008

Taki has decided to suspend indefinitely all commenting at Takimag. I’d like to thank those who’ve offered up thoughtful responses to our articles in the past.

So why did they stop the commenting?

http://www.takimag.com/sniperstower/article/dropping_the_c_word/

Possible reasons to drop commenting?

  1. Comments were embarrassing.
  2. Because they were white nationalist.
  3. Because they were better.
  4. Because comments had data and links to data that Taki writers are too lazy to do.
  5. Taki writers grouse instead of do research and write about it.  This is similar or the same as David Frum’s criticism of paleocons.
  6. Takimag is a vanity production and comments took away from that.
  7. David Frum is coming with a new website and Takimag is afraid somehow of competing with it.  Comments can point to that if it does more than vanity writing.

Why was Christopher Roach dropped from Takimag even though he continues his own blog?

http://mansizedtarget.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/william-f-buckley-jr-rip/

Takimag has not really been a strong defender or advocate of anything.  Its disorganized.  It does not try to build a body of knowledge.  The writers don’t have an excitement for learning and want to show what they learned.  There are exceptions.

The columns are not memorable themselves, although comment threads often were.  The columns tended to be weak tea in terms of solid information or data or links to them.  (Exceptions are Steve Sailer and maybe Buchanan, but these writers are not Taki discoveries.) They tended towards being what Frum said of the paleocons.

http://www.nationalreview.com/frum/frum031903.asp

March 19, 2003 9:30 a.m.
Unpatriotic Conservatives
A war against America.


Perhaps the most relentlessly solipsistic of the disgruntled paleos is Paul Gottfried, a professor at Elizabethtown College in Pennsylvania who has published an endless series of articles about his professional rebuffs.


Whether this is accurate or not, there is a tendency at Takimag to go in this direction.  The comments expose it.  After a column that grouses and bloviates, comments would come back based on data and with concise refutations.  This is what Takimag came to loathe about comments?  They proved the Frum critique was true and on target?

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Its not the end of Frum, because Frum learns. Frum learns and tells us what he learns.  You can search on David Frum at CIS.org.  CIS is about learning data and models and then telling us what they learn.  So is Vdare.

National Review acts like the cool kids in high school. So does Fox.  Lou Dobbs goes out and creates a body of knowledge like Vdare, CIS, NumbersUSA, Front Page Mag, Jihad Watch and even Antiwar do.  Is Takimag going to learn and tell us what they learn or ride Taki’s money and vent resentments? If so, Frum will beat that because he is still learning.

Sent at: 2008 12 24

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The comment still survives at the above link.

Are Taki’s authors riding Taki’s money?  Does Taki just want a vanity font?  Is it Rupert Murdoch he thinks about?  Is he too lazy to want to build a body of knowledge like Peter Brimelow is building at Vdare?  Or Lou Dobbs?  or Brussels Journal or Jihad Watch or Front Page Mag?  Is Take not just lazy, but intellectually lazy?

Its no longer possible to reach the archives from the Front Page.  Why?  Because it is not the intent to build a body of knowledge for reference?  Because Taki realizes that after over a year, his archives prove Frum’s critique is spot on for Taki’s own mag?  Takimag was instant decayed National Review?  Post Sobran and post Brimelow at the time of inception?

http://www.takimag.com/info/about/

On February 5, 2007, journalist and socialite Taki Theodoracopulos launched Taki’s Top Drawer, (www.takimag.com), a conservative online magazine.

For the past ten years at least, the conservative movement has been dominated by a bunch of pudgy, pasty-faced kids in bow-ties and blue blazers who spent their youths playing Risk in gothic dormitories, while sipping port and smoking their father’s stolen cigars. Thanks to the tragedy of September 11, and a compliant and dim-witted president, these kids got the chance to play Risk with real soldiers, with American soldiers. Patriotic men and women are dying over in Iraq for a war that was never in America’s interests. And now these spitball gunners, these chicken hawks, want to attack Iran, which is no threat to the U.S. at all.

The Risk plan would have been work the domino theory in our favor.  Iraq, Iran, and Pakistan in that order.  Eliminating their nuclear arsenal and capacity against us.

If Taki really thinks Iran should be allowed to build nukes, why hasn’t he taken that on in debate and shown why at Takimag?  If Taki thinks that sanctions would work, why not make that case?

Does Take support Muslim immigration to the West?  Does he support having an Iranian Muslim, Vahid Majidi, as head of WMD for the FBI?  Does he think its bigotry to be against that?  Does he even know it?  Too busy with vanity?

Was letting the Soviet Union have nukes the wise plan?  Was that keeping the Risk boys from finishing the job of WWII?  What does he think? What world do we live in? A random world where we are not supposed to be positive actors but just passive recipients of whatever happens?  So the Muslims can be positive actors who take control of history but we can’t?  Is that his vision?

Was one reason that the comments were closed the thread that made the case against Iran and Pakistan?

http://www.takimag.com/sniperstower/article/an_unfunny_joke/

http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/can_americas_nukes_deter_irans/

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The above comments had real debates.  Takimag couldn’t take the truth?  Couldn’t take real evidence?

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    Cheers. ST. Posted by Simon Tregarth on Aug 14, 2008. …. No disrespect intended SG. OA. Posted by Old Atlantic on Aug 15, 2008.
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    Posted by Simon Tregarth on Jul 16, 2008. Click to flag this comment as abusive. ST, “The Lord of Hosts is with us. “ OA. Posted by Old Atlantic on Jul 16,
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    Sep 5, 2008 Posted by Old Atlantic on Sep 05, 2008. Click to flag this comment as abusive ….. Posted by Simon Tregarth on Sep 09, 2008.
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  4. Taki’s Magazine, edited by Taki Theodoracopulos

    Posted by Simon Tregarth on Jun 03, 2008. ….. Old Atlantic. I regret to say that I am not in the pay of Saudi Arabia (or anyone else).
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    Know the statistics, Will? Posted by Simon Tregarth on Sep 11, 2008. ….. Jeez, Old Atlantic. I swear, I saw the face of God when I read your words (HaHa!
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    Comments. Roach for Congress. Posted by Old Atlantic on Jun 22, 2008. …. Liberty. ST. Posted by Simon Tregarth on Jun 23, 2008.
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    Aug 25, 2008 Vote BNP if you can. We need a BNP here in America. Posted by Old Atlantic on Aug 26, 2008. Posted by Simon Tregarth on Aug 26, 2008.
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Then there was Richard Spencer and his support for an Indian ethno-nationalist in the primary for Jim Moran’s Congressional seat.

site:oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com Richard Spencer Ellmore

  1. Richard Spencer deletes comment at Takimag on Khomeini’s will

    Richard Spencer supported Amit Singh over Mark Ellmore in a Virginia primary for Republican candidate for Congress to oppose Jim Moran.
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  2. Lessons from Mark Ellmore defeat of Amit Singh « Old Atlantic

    2 Responses to “Lessons from Mark Ellmore defeat of Amit Singh”. Richard Spencer deletes comment at Takimag on Khomeini’s will « Old Atlantic Lighthouse
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    Spencer supported Singh and went to his events. I took issue with that at Takimag in the comments. See following for some of this:. Mark Ellmore Richard
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    Ellmore was not super strong on immigration restriction but he did oppose Takimag columns by Richard Spencer are Go Amit Go, More on Amit Singh and the
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    Jun 8, 2008 Mark Ellmore. Amit Singh strongly supports a massive increase in legal ….. Vote Mark Ellmore instead of those against progress for people.
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  1. Taki’s Magazine, edited by Taki Theodoracopulos

    Posted by Richard Spencer on June 11, 2008. Well, Amit Singh didn’t quite do it and was defeated by Mark Ellmore last night in the contest in Virginia’s 8th
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    Posted by Richard Spencer on June 09, 2008 …. Amit Singh is better than Mark Ellmore, but how do you know that the people who are race-realists (such as
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    Posted by Richard Spencer on November 04, 2008 Remember to vote for Mark Ellmore. Ellmore, Gilmore, Chuck-more. Posted by Old Atlantic on Nov 04, 2008.
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    Posted by Richard Spencer on June 11, 2008 Perhaps conservative conman Mark Ellmore, who beat Singh last night, is even worse. But thanks to performance
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The Wright Island Model proves that one way migration causes genetic replacement.  Those comments were removed a couple times including the reference to Genetics journal.  Why?  Because Takimag writers don’t read such journals or use them or anything else that takes work.  Over and over, Frum’s critique rings true about Takimag and its writers.  They are the dilletantes they condemn.

dominated by a bunch of pudgy, pasty-faced kids in bow-ties and blue blazers who spent their youths playing Risk in gothic dormitories, while sipping port and smoking their father’s stolen cigars.

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/richard-spencer-deletes-comment-at-takimag-on-khomeinis-will/

Takimag removed this comment:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1213928&blobtype=pdf

We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.

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Richard Spencer at Takimag deleted the following comment from a thread on the debate between John Sidney McCain III and Barack Hussein Obama II

http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/a_debate_about_nothing/

Khomeini’s will declares the US the Enemy of Islam and the Great Satan. The Constitution of Iran effectively incorporates Khomeini’s Will as a binding fatwa. Iran has made America its enemy that it must destroy and is building nukes. We need to stop thinking this is a joke. They are working to kill us and mean to do so. We have to draft 2 million men and invade Iran. The Will and the Constitution are both on line in English. We can no longer afford a press that is worried about getting interviews and not our survival.

Someone had already posted this comment in reply to mine:

I can’t tell. Is Old Atlantic joking? How, prey tell, could Iran “destroy” America even if it wanted to?

Posted by Red Phillips on Sep 27, 2008.

Taki’s original purpose in starting Takimag:

dominated by a bunch of pudgy, pasty-faced kids in bow-ties and blue blazers who spent their youths playing Risk in gothic dormitories, while sipping port and smoking their father’s stolen cigars.

So it really comes down to this, Taki is for Iran and wants to cover up Khomeni’s Will and Iran’s Constitution.  He can’t take having his original purpose exposed as false in the face of Iran’s belligerence in its formal founding documents.  Some of Taki’s own articles:

http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/the_age_of_heros/

But if a weak side like ours, led by a genius portly barrister and a ten-year-old boy can come so close to beating the great Goldsmith cricket machine, why can’t Europe stand up to the Islamist bullies?

Indeed how?

http://www.takimag.com/site/article/our_very_own_war_criminals

Now the neo-cons want Iran. It is up to us to stop them.

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http://www.iranonline.com/iran/iran-info/Government/constitution-8.html

Article 107

After the demise of the eminent marji’ al-taqlid and great leader of the universal Islamic revolution, and founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Ayatullah al-’Uzma Imam Khumayni – quddisa sirruh al-sharif – who was recognized and accepted as marji’ and Leader by a decisive majority of the people, the task of appointing the Leader shall be vested with the experts elected by the people.

Khomeini’s death is part of the Constitution. So his last will and testament is part of Islamic law that the Constitution makes binding on Iran.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran

Article 110 [Leadership Duties and Powers]

The constitution accords many powers to the Supreme Leader.

Some say that the Supreme Leader’s powers extend beyond those enumerated in the Constitution because he can use “Islamic issues for justification.”[10]

Khomeini’s Will

http://server32.irna.com/occasion/ertehal/english/will/lmnew1.htm

The USA is the foremost enemy of Islam. It is a terrorist state by nature that has set fire to everything everywhere and its ally, the international Zionism does not stop short of any crime to achieve its base and greedy desires, crimes that the tongue and pen are ashamed to utter or write.

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/category/iran-war-fatwa-hypothesis/

Where is Taki’s research to back up his opinions?  What is it beyond name dropping and name calling?  Meanwhile Iran builds.   Iran teaches that the US is the foremost enemy of Islam and the Great Satan as Khomeini’s interpretation of Islam binding on Iran’s rulers and people alike.  If they have the chance to remove the Great Satan with nukes, don’t they have an obligation to do it even if they die doing so?  Isn’t that the moral thing to do?

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Richard Spencer in a comment at another site says white nats were the reason.

http://conservativetimes.org/?p=2504

  1. Richard Spencer on 23 Dec 2008 at 9:54 pm #

    Well, I guess it’s kinda ironic that I’m leaving a comment (since I just banned them all at my site), but, yes, you’re right, the White Nats were the reason. Hopefully, we’ll be able to have good discussions of articles on The Sniper’s Tower.
    R

Another comment on that thread:

  1. Daniel on 24 Dec 2008 at 2:45 pm #

    …. as a White R-A-C-I-A-L-I-S-T, to call the few – and yes, it was few – not a very active board, sorry -actually, absent the WNs, not much of interest – i disgress…. to call the few WNs extreme is, well, rather, pathetic – I found it quite tame…. Unfortunately, Taki, while no doubt, a fine man, found it more useful to use the space as a vehicle to relay trivial tidbits…. Obviously, takimag, with its editor’s predispostion to all things harmlessly useless (how else could one define its brand of paulsian libertarianism) is more than willing to show up to the fight, unarmed….

However, they published Spengler’s demographic fallacies recently:

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2008/12/08/spengler-demographic-fallacies-at-takimag/

Spengler’s fallacy is that falling white birth rates in the West are cured by non-white immigration to fund social security for the last whites when they die off.  Actually, immigration itself displaces white births as shown by the baby boom during immigration restriction from 1940 to its peak in 1957 when immigration picked up again, before the pill was introduced a few years later.  See graphs of black and white fertility from 1800 to 1990 here:

http://www.elderweb.com/home/node/2919

Nor does white nats explain why they removed the Wright Island Model references or the references to Iran’s Constitution or Khomeini’s Will.  The latter contradict Taki’s original stated purpose.  Nor are they well known or understood even by neocons.

White nats don’t explain why Taki’s front page does not list his archives anymore and you have to use a search engine to get to them.  That seems an admission that he knows he hasn’t built a body of knowledge.  Which comes back to David Frum’s critique of paleocons being too close for Taki’s comfort, and he is afraid that his archives just prove it.  Most of all, he may think he is the one who ended up with frat boys who don’t do their homework.  That shows.  There is no body of knowledge being built at Takimag and this reflects Taki’s own name dropping view of the world.  He is the head frat boy and he sets the example of not doing assignments with diligence, learning new things and sharing that excitement with their readers.

Differences between A and C students, scroll down and see the table comparison A on the left and C on the right.

http://www.business.unr.edu/faculty/parker/Grades.html

The A students are writing at Vdare and the C students at Takimag.  Just compare the two according to the table at the bottom of the above link.

http://www.vdare.com/archive/index.htm

Vdare has an archive to be proud of.  Organizations like SPLC fear it because they work hard and smart.  Taki has hidden his archive because he is ashamed of it.  It just shows that his C students have turned in grouses instead of research over and over again.

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http://www.takimag.com/blogs/Gottfried. Zach said,. on December 27th, 2007 at 6: 22 pm. As a libertarian leaning progressive, I am extremely dismayed that
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http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?s=c7729768d965f0ca915e49e390c23cd6&p=50329#post50329

Watching movies from the white time

December 22, 2008

This is draft and preliminary.  Its hypotheses drawn to contrast from PC MC for the purpose of hypothesis testing.  Its a side of an argument.

Vanishing American often talks about this, watching movies from when our lands were white.  Lawrence Auster and his correspondents discuss this today.

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012139.html

VA has also pointed out that its right to hate in such situations, not wrong.  If we don’t hate what is done to us and who does it, we can’t fight back.  We give up our chance to survive when we don’t let ourselves hate.

Hating them is just.  They are genociders and should be hated. Its our duty to hate them.  Those not doing so are deficient in love and integrity.

Its our duty to send them back. Its our duty to the generations that went before and those to come. The evil of 3rd worlders is unbounded and they must go.  We must send them back.

They hated us for coming to their lands and making them better than they could ever make them.   Their hatred of us in colonial days was unjust.  Their coming here is then not just 10 times more unjust, its billions of times more unjust, because of all we gave them.

Moreover, we are the advanced race on the planet and we have a duty to every organism that ever lived or will live to preserve our race and our dominance.  This is a duty to the planet.  As we are the only life we know of, its a duty to the universe and possibly existence itself.  We can’t fail in this duty.

Our genes are uniquely advanced towards empathy and altruism.  This may be a chance of one in the universe because of our evolution in the ice of the north.  We must keep these genes alive and dominant on this planet.  We are a unique one time event in the history of the earth and as far as we know the universe.  We must preserve our race and our dominance.  Its just and moral and its our duty to do so.

http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/search/label/classic%20movies

When you see one of the white movies or the movies from the white times as we might call them, it does tell us what we’ve lost and have to aim to regain.  We can’t fight for Idaho.  We have to fight for all. We have to send them back and spread our alleles over the planet.  The old movies don’t lie, we are being genocided.  Its the Wright Island Model theorem before our eyes:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1213928&blobtype=pdf

We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/population-genetics-island-model-one-way-migration/

There is a duty to hate, when one can act in time to stop genocide.  That time is now.  We can stop genocide, by stopping immigration and sending them back.  Its our moral duty.

If you can’t hate those genociding you, who can you hate?  What is the emotion of hate for, if you can’t hate those genociding your entire extended family and every white person you ever met, saw or heard of?

This is why we can’t fight for a little reservation in Idaho. This is why we not only have to stop immigration but send them back, humanely.  We have to have a platform worth fighting for.  We have to fight for the white movies to be truth again.  We have to see in front of our eyes on the streets what we see in those movies.  Send them back.  All of them.

They came here and are genociding us.  That is evil. That makes them evil.  It doesn’t matter who else is evil, they are evil to come here and genocide us.

Its not a noble life for them to genocide us.  They have to take what they know and have earned and take it with them to make their lands and peoples better.  Why is it so bad for them to return to their people?

We want to return to those movies.  We would go there if we could.  Why is it so wrong for them to go back to their own lands and their own peoples?  They said that to us in the 1960’s and 1970’s and 1980’s and even 1990’s as colonialism ended.  Hong Kong.  China wanted it back even though the people didn’t.  So the Chinese can go back to China by the same logic.   The Indians go back to their land by their saying us out of there.  Same for Pakistan and Muslim lands. Same for Africa.  Same for Latin America.  Its what they said to us. Time for them to do it too. Time for them to go.   All of them.  Leave.  Now.

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Why is it just for them to send us to a reservation on Idaho?  By the way, they won’t give us that either.  They intend to and are genociding us.

They hated us for going to their lands.  They are causing our extinction.  That makes them evil.  That makes it our moral duty to hate them for doing evil and being evil.  Their moral duty is to leave and go back to their lands, not stay and genocide us in our lands.

The law is that genocide is illegal.  The laws against genocide say being ordered to do it is no excuse, those doing it are to be stopped.  If leaders and liberals order or agree with immigrants to genocide whites, its not valid.

Leaders and liberals can’t legally give immigrants the right as part of a conspiracy to commit genocide on other whites.   The leader who conspires with liberals and immigrants to genocide whites has broken the law against genocide and they all must be stopped, which means the immigrants must return to their lands.

Leaders and liberals never had the authority to genocide us so the immigrants “right” to come here is void.  Instead the law on genocide requires that they leave.  This is international law.

The Constitution does not establish a right to genocide.  It never intended genocide of all people in America.  So anchor baby is not the Constitution because the facts are it causes genocide, which was not the intent.  The immigrants from the 3rd world have to go back to their lands as they said we had to do in the 1960’s.  Their own words and acts apply to them.  That shows their intent coming here was genocide, and thus voids their right to stay.

The laws against genocide were passed at the same time as whites were forced to leave the 3rd world.  This shows it is the intent of the laws against genocide that 3rd worlders now have to leave white lands.  This shows original intent at the time, both by 3rd worlders and whites.  The very terms guest worker, etc. show that.

Asylum is also intended to be temporary.   When you give a person asylum in your house, its not to own it.  When a church gives a person asylum its not to own the church or live there forever.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1213928&blobtype=pdf

We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.

They hate us to do this to us.  They do hate us.  They show it.  They hate us.  They are genociding us.  The theorem says so.

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This is draft and preliminary.  Comments and corrections welcome.  These are hypotheses written to contrast with PC MC for the purpose of developing hypotheses to test.  All other disclaimers apply.

No aid California until anchor baby amendment

December 22, 2008

California is bankrupt from legal and illegal immigration.   No aid until a Constitutional Amendment is passed and ratified ending anchor baby is eliminated.  In addition, there must be an end to legal immigration of every type including student visas, H-1b, Agjobs, family reunification, asylum, diversity lottery, etc.

Moreover, travel from countries where people overstay must be ended.   All those not green card holders must be sent back.   This will solve the job crisis here.

We are told that farmers etc can’t find workers.  Unemployment is headed towards double digits.  Why hasn’t H-1b been ended?   Where is Jim Webb of Virginia?  Why doesn’t he advocate to stop these guest worker programs?

Gordon Peterson immigration traitor betrays workers

December 19, 2008

Gordon Peterson on Inside Washington celebrated immigrants at an immigration ceremony.  This was a swearing in of 636 new citizens, 636 immigrants taking citizenship.  He implied the usual stuff that Auster, Vanishing American, Vdare and others point out about the MSM, that they celebrate immigrants as the authentic Americans.  This is the basis of having them genocide us in the MSM mind.

Immigration causes genetic replacement.  Men’s median wages are the same as in 1973, see p60-235.pdf graph page 19.  Gordon Peterson is disloyal to his viewers and his extended family and to Americans.  These people are causing our genetic extinction.  It follows that our institutions, jobs, etc. are substituted out to force us out of existence.  The new people are not loyal to our institutions, contrary to what Gordon Peterson said.

They are loyal to their own ethnic groups. Steven Chu has helped China build its networks in the US and gain our know-how.  China deliberately spreads nuclear know and has an EZ nuke design for Muslim states so they can spread it and use it.  This was pointed out by Thomas C. Reed. He has a new book coming out.

The truth is the opposite of what Gordon Peterson said.  What is true is that Peterson is not loyal to America or Americans.  Peterson has no loyalty to the actual people in America.  That means he has no loyal to anything, not culture or institutions either.  He is a bloviating idiot, but who still knows he is advocating the loss of jobs of Americans in this time of trouble.

Peterson like the MSM on 9/11 is covering up that he caused the job loss.  People are in trouble now because Peterson pushed immigration for his entire career.  The subprime crisis was caused by the people Peterson brought.

Peter Jennings and the MSM pushed immigration on 9/11 because they knew they brought the killers here.  Peterson knows now he brought the job takers, and also the killers and rapists here.  Peterson is to blame for the subprime mess more than AIG or FNMA.  He knows that.  That is why he has this swearing in ceremony for immigrations film on Inside Washington.  Its also why the other traitors also praise it.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1213928&blobtype=pdf

We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.

Peterson lies worse than the oligarchs before the French Revolution or the Tsar and Rasputin before the Russian Revolution.  Peterson is a fraud because he pretends to be for us and he pretends to tell the truth.  Both are false.

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/population-genetics-island-model-one-way-migration/

http://www.weta.org/about/press/kits/37354

Peterson is engaged in justifying his own role in genocide.  Peterson is trying to cow his victims into silence.  Peterson is preemptively calling his victims bigots to silence them by his immigration film.  Peterson knows he has been disloyal and has harmed his fans and viewers, his customers, and continues to do it.  He then calls them bigots to hide his own harm to them.  That makes him equivalent to Bernie Madoff and other financial fraudsters.

A blog about this ceremony and praising it:

http://dc.metblogs.com/2008/12/17/dc-welcomes-636-new-citizens/

Immigration distrust equilibrium low fertility outcomes

December 18, 2008

The following was a comment at Vanishing American, “Where have all the men and women gone.”

http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2008/12/where-have-men-and-women-gone.html

VA had a post on the London Times:

Where have all the men gone?

…Where have all the men gone? Instead, we have an overload of man-boys – which leaves a generation of single, thirtysomething women who are their natural mates bewildered. I am one of those women.

Men’s median wages are the same as in 1973 in the US see p60-233.pdf graph page 19.

We can use a theorem in demographics to explain demographic outcomes.  The theorem is the Wright Island Model.

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/population-genetics-island-model-one-way-migration/

“the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.”
Nagylaki, Genetics.

There is a substitution effect by immigration alone.  Its a math theorem that the genes on the island have to converge to those of the immigrants.  Thus the mating process is disrupted.

Economic instability works its way backward.  Marriages can breakup when the man or both lose their job.  So the marriage is unstable.  So they can’t have kids.  So there is no reason to get married.  So they don’t. This type of recursive or backward reasoning is used in game theory and modern economics.

It is sometimes called rational expectations.  Young people have rational expectations of job instability.  Based on that they have rational expectations of marriage instability.  So they have rational expectations of not having children when married. So they have rational expectations of not getting married at all.  So they don’t.

Its a rational expectations equilibrium that derives from the unstable job market caused by immigration.

http://www.elderweb.com/home/node/2919

The fertility graph above from 1800 to 1990 shows this.  Fertility fell except during immigration restriction from 1924 to the late 1950’s early 1960’s when it picked up even before the 1965 act.  The baby boom started in 1940 and peaked in 1957 and was followed by the baby bust.  This was the same period that saw marriage start to crash.

We now are in the extreme stress conditions implied by the Wright Island Model.

Young people are looking for an explanation of what is happening to them.  Its in the math.  The math explains what is happening.  Immigration causes genetic replacement with certainty.

The growth of distrust is a result of the influx.  With zero immigration, people deal with the same people on a repeat basis and there is stability. So behavior is closely monitored. This makes reputation important. Trust comes out of this. We get a trust and responsible behavior equilibrium.

With the influx of immigrants, there is no way to avoid extinction ultimately.  So people become desperate and short term in their thinking. They also deal with different people and so don’t need a good reputation.  The result is they behave badly. We switch to the distrust equilibrium. People expect bad behavior in advance, so they don’t let themselves be vulnerable. The result is a crash.

Its the same in our financial system. Bear Stears in 1998 wouldn’t do illiquid trades like LTCM did.  But in 2008 they went bankrupt by selling illiquid derivatives.  This was because the managers just wanted to get theirs while they could and the spread for selling illiquid derivatives was high.  The same for AIG FP. These firms also became full of Indian and Chinese quants who simply told the trading bosses what they wanted to hear, value at risk was low.  But, of course, it wasn’t. We are in the distrust equilibrium. That comes from immigration and its a consequence of rational expectations equilibrium from game theory.

The meaning of young people’s lives is the above math.  Their lives instead of being full of meaning are just bacteria in someone else’s experiment.  They are reduced to objects by immigration.  Yet they see the meaning in their life as being not bigoted.  Its actually a scam foisted on them by those running the experiment.  And the experiment is evil.

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An economist or someone said recently, or I read it recently and they said it long ago, that children are a durable good.  The production of that good is disrupted by immigration.  Its too costly and risky to produce children when there is immigration.  So they are produced less.

Children provide a stream of benefits.  Not just support in old age, but emotional ones when young.  There is a trade. Parents give children a stable loving home and get love in return.  This works if the parents have a stable job.

But if that stream of benfits from children isn’t worth the cost and risk the children are not produced.  To enjoy the benefits, one needs economic stability.  When there is no job stability, a child goes from being a stream of satisfaction, to a source of worry, how to provide for the child.

The emotional stream of benefits comes with the requirement of a stream of emotions to provide to the child. And if one can’t provide, the parents part of the bargain, the trade of emotions with a child can’t happen in a positive way but is negative. Child abuse may have risen because of this as well.  Parents can’t deliver on their part of the trade, a stable economic environment and home, and so abuse the children out of their angst and to blame the victim.

The trade between parent and child is disrupted by immigration which creates economic instability.  This changes children from a blessing to a burden.  So young adults don’t have children. So they don’t get married. So they are unhappy.

Immigration causes unhappiness.   Part of the channel is to create distrust.  This includes distrust between the sexes. The result is more partners and instability and the spread of disease.  That is another outcome of immigration.

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Search “children are durable goods”

“children are a durable good”

bad grammar but good search.

http://www.stanford.edu/group/SITE/papers2005/Schoonbroodt.05.pdf

Bush grateful for shoes of peace

December 16, 2008

(Spoof) George W. Bush thanked Islam for the shoes of peace thrown at him and others.

Bush: A little hard on Dana Perino, but she knew the risk of working for a Bush.  Or maybe she didn’t.  I don’t know.  I’m a leader.

Q: Do you regret letting Pakistan keep its nukes after they attacked us on 9/11?

Bush: Those are the nukes of peace.

Q: What about sending the Dukes of Peace next time?  They might know how to shoot a Koran instead of kiss it.

Bush: Charles Johnson of LGF says their car is racist.  So I am cowed.

Q: Don’t you feel any anger at what happened to Dana Perino?

Bush: Of course I do.

Q: Are you going to build a red shoe crescent memorial?

Bush: Hadn’t thought of that.  Sounds like a good idea. But I can promise you that what they did to Dana Perino will be done to all of you by Muslim immigration brought to you by BOG.

Q: BOG?

Bush: Bush Obama Group.  That’s all for you.

Photo of Perino’s bruises:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article5354194.ece

Be what the PC left hates most

December 15, 2008

http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2008/12/our-true-misfortune.html

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3684

Your first duty is to yourself. Your second duty is to your family. Your third duty is to your (real) friends. Your fourth duty is to your nation. If you live in a multicultural society, your fourth duty is to your tribe; your fifth one is to your nation. Your sixth duty is to humanity. Your seventh duty is to Planet Earth. All these duties coexist, and none may be pursued without proportional regard for the others. Proportional is the operative word.

Saving Western Civilization must entail as well separation from Muslims and from Third World Latinos(6), which these groups already practice toward whites. How to separate without cruel and unjust policies is an issue beyond the scope of this discussion, as it requires a fully-informed consideration of the specific circumstances in each Western country separately.

(6) A few Latinos have lived in the United States since before there was a United States. These are obviously not meant to be included in this statement.

Vanishing American comments on Takuan Seiyo. So does James Edwards:

http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/2008/12/14/brussels-journal-calls-for-whites-to-separate-and-form-their-own-communities/

Great post and comments above.  If you can’t sing it or wear it you can’t fight for it.  The British like BNP know who they are fighting for. They know who they are.  When you deny who you are, you have nothing to fight for.

The PC right construct a set of principles that are only good to pass through the gates set for them by the PC left.  Those who go slightly right of that are still constructing artificial rationales that don’t work.  They are still looking to the PC left to define what is the good.

Its the ancient peoples of Europe who know who they are and who have something understandable to fight for.  They can sing it, wear it, speak it and its instantaneously recognizable who they are and what they are fighting for.

This is what the PC left is trying to kill.  You can’t take PC leftism and create the authentic symbols that people actually have fought for and under for centuries.

I have posted this video before, but a few seconds are enough to recognize what its for and about.

OUR UNION JACK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6d4YWJgrW0&feature=related

If it can’t be explained this way, this quickly, it isn’t going anywhere.  Defeating the above type of nativist jingoist etc expression is what PC leftism was invented to do.  That is why it hates it so.  That is why it vilifies.

We have to be what the PC left hates.  We have to say what they hate.  We have to be hated by the PC left, because they hate precisely what is capable of surviving.  They know that. Its time we did too.

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Charles Johnson of LGF denounces Brussels Journal article.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32173_Brussels_Journal_Advocates_Tribal_Nationalism_White_Separatism

LGF own editorial:

In an extremely verbose article that begins with a bizarre science fictional premise that “white Europeans” suffer from a disease only they can catch, Brussels Journal openly advocates tribal nationalism and white separatism.

The mask is completely gone now. This article is indistinguishable from the rubbish you’ll find at sites like the neo-Nazi Stormfront — except that the author, “Takuan Seiyo,” tries mightily to sound like he’s actually denouncing white supremacism, while simultaneously embracing all of its ideological bases. He attempts to short circuit criticism with twisted rationalizations like this:

LGF quotes the following passage:

The tribe I imagine is a sort of ethno-conservative and culturally reactionary white ummah stretching from New Zealand to Alaska, the way the Muslim ummah spans from the remotest islands of Indonesia through Bosnia to British Columbia, but without the negative baggage. In each nation, people who have not yet morphed into Body Snatchers already know how to define themselves as a local ethny, but a universal component is needed as well.

The British National Party’s constitution defines BNP’s constituency as “indigenous Anglo-Saxon, Celtic and Norse folk communities of Britain and those we regard as closely related and ethnically assimilated or assimilable aboriginal members of the European race also resident in Britain.”

Good definition, but one day it will be nice to see a phrase added that asserts solidarity with a list of similar parties in 40 other countries. For now, the vehement Fascism(3) of Body Snatcher society is such that by merely mentioning the BNP I am subjecting this website to criticism and am placing myself on a variety of black lists and white lists maintained in some windowless cubicles by Pod apparatchiks no less fanatical than were the Stasi functionaries rifling through East German population’s letters and underpants [sic] in the basement of the Stasi Headquarters in the Berlin suburb of Lichtenfeld.

LGF states:

It’s sickening—and almost beyond belief that Brussels Journal, who are closely affiliated with the Vlaams Belang, would publish something so openly racist at a time when they’re under the microscope more than ever before,

This is the time to stand up for what you believe.  James Watson lost his chance to do that.  Take the chance.  Its when the Charles Johnson type hate comes forth that one should affirm one’s position, and even double it.

Are these the kinds of sentiments the Wall Street Journal wants to support—praise for the fascist British National Party and white separatism? And if you’re linking to them, is this the kind of “conservatism” you want to support?

Its precisely supporting BNP, Vlaams Belang and Brussels Journal at such a time that counts.  We want to win, not be approved by Charles Johnson and the PC Left and PC Right as we go extinct.

“Who will raise their voice?”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gApE5wwMK8

The time to raise your voice for your own survival and to maintain white majorities in all white countries is now.  Separatism means the 3rd worlders return to their countries not that we give up ours.  The latter is a recipe for defeat and admits defeat before we start.  We keep all our lands and 3rd worlders go home.  That’s what separation means.

Say what you really want, not what Charles Johnson says you can say.  We want our lands, all of them.  If you say the 3rd worlders can have part of them, then you are already admitting defeat and that Charles Johnson’s fear tactics control what you can say.  All our lands.  White majorities in all our lands.  We don’t give up any of our lands.

No one will fight to give up part of our lands.  No one will fight to repeat this over again.  We have to have a program and a dream worth fighting for.  Giving up part of our lands is no such dream and no such program.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Burnham

Make no little plans. They have no magic to stir men’s blood and probably will not themselves be realized.

All our lands is our plan.  Giving up part of our lands is to lose the fight for men’s minds and hearts before it starts.  We can’t get people to rally to keep part of our lands, we have to rally them to keep them all.  Every inch.

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The reason the neocons failed was they didn’t make it their plan to take all Muslim nukes, eject Muslims from the West, stop 3rd world immigration, and end Islam world wide.  They needed a plan to win.  They should have taken the opportunity after 9/11 to crush Islam the way Europe should have done in 1500 and ever since.  Do it while we can or face extinction.  That is our only choice with Islam.

The neocons flubbed 9/11 and lost their chance because they didn’t plan for victory.  So they got defeat and are hated and detested for it.  That’s what happens to those who plan their own defeat as the best possible outcome.  That’s why we have to plan to keep all our lands.

Charles Johnson already hates us and he was supposedly on our side.  He opposes victory over Islam.  He supports certain defeat and opposes all measures to achieve victory.  This is because he opposes our very survival from the start.

Charles Johnson is part of the PC Left Right which are really the same. They both oppose the symbols of us.  They hate them on sight and condemn them on sight.  They condemn us when we use them and they really just condemn us.  PC is about not letting us be for us.  That is why they hate us whatever we do, if we are for us.  In fact, they just hate us.  They intend our extinction.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1213928&blobtype=pdf

We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.

That’s our fate in their plan. We need a plan that meets the test of this theorem, not one that delays our extinction.  That means stop the flow in and reverse it to go out.  We are supposed to spread our alleles for higher intelligence, empathy, non-violence, honoring contracts, and impartial administration of justice.

We either spread those genes world wide or they spread theirs and extinct all such genes.  Those are the only two mathematical outcomes available. We have to plan the one to get people to fight for it or suffer the other. Charles Johnson has chosen our total extinction, not survival in a mixture, but total extinction.

There is no equilibrium of 3rd world theft and destroy and indifference genes and Western white empathy, civilization, order, contract honoring, fairness, altruism genes.  Only one set of those genes can survive in equilibrium.  There is no other possible outcome.  We have to fight for and plan for the survival of the good genes.  That is the only way for mankind to have a future.

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/population-genetics-island-model-one-way-migration/

Right now there is a fight in Athens between 3rd world asylum seekers and legal immigrants and the Greeks.  The Greeks have to eject the entire 3rd world population, legal or not, or they won’t survive. That is their stark choice.  We can see it in the situation of others.  We should see it for ourselves.  We have seen this same play in France in the car burnings and on the streets of London.  The only solution is total ejection of the 3rd world influx.

The solution is not give them Birmingham, Paris, London, Rome, Athens, and Jerusalem. Charles Johnson says that Vlaams Belang was not invited to the Jerusalem conference of anti-jihadis.  We save all our cities or known.  That also includes Los Angeles and New York and San Francisco.  Save them all or save none.  We need our cities to be us.  They have to go back to the 3rd world enriched by their time here and make their own cities there, not destroy ours here.

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012086.html

Brussels Journal part of WSJ list:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/federation/

Vdare didn’t make the list.

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Why is it that its so wrong for them to return to their people and their lands to live among them?  They have most of the surface of the earth.

White flight is exactly that reunification.  Whites would gladly have their own lands that 3rd worlders couldn’t come to and move to them if they were available.  If whites want to go home to their own people and own lands, why is it so bad for 3rd worlders to go home to their own people and own lands?

Why is it we can’t have our own people and our own lands?  That is the real issue here.  The 3rd worlders here and the PC Left and Right both oppose our having our own lands and being our own people. That is what they will not agree to.

The real issue comes down to this.  Charles Johnson and the PC Right and Left, the Obama C. Rice, C. Powell, Jindal worshipers won’t let us have our own lands and be our own people.  There is no place for white flight in their world.  Whites can’t flee, only go extinct.  We either agree to their plan or we oppose it.

White lands for white people.  3rd worlders take their enriched experience here back to their lands to make them more like here.  That’s the plan to move men’s minds.  If you can’t move their minds, you can’t move their feet.

3rd worlders should be excited at the chance to take what they have learned here and the money they earned here and go back and make their lands and peoples better.  That is a noble purpose for them.  Staying here and extincting us and our civilization is no noble purpose for them.  Nor is it for us.  That should not be our plan for ourselves, nor theirs for them.

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