Thomas C Reed Chinese Nuclear Tests

December 12, 2008

One important “pupil” who paid Fuchs an early visit was Qian Sanqiang. In 1959 Qian was the designated mastermind of Mao’s A-bomb program. In July of that year, Qian made his way to East Germany, where he met with Fuchs at length. (H. Terry Hawkins, now a senior fellow at Los Alamos, told Stillman in 2006, “I read this report in an unclassified publication, that this meeting took place shortly after Fuchs returned to East Germany. Fuchs gave Qian information that greatly assisted the Chinese program.” Also see http://www.oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/category/klaus-fuchs.) During those long summer days of 1959, Fuchs gave Qian a full tutorial on the design and operation of Fat Man. In all likelihood, he also added his thoughts on the role of radiation pressure in thermonuclear weapons.

Current link (As of Feb 3 2014) (At link can download article as pdf and also Tweet a comment)

http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/magazine/physicstoday/article/61/9/10.1063/1.2982122

Old link was:

http://ptonline.aip.org/journals/doc/PHTOAD-ft/vol_61/iss_9/47_1.shtml

Above article by Thomas Reed former Secretary of the Air Force (1976–77) and scientist at Lawrence Livermore.

(2017 updated link:

http://physicstoday.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.2982122

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CFR also links to the Reed article at Physics Today.
http://www.cfr.org/publication/17360/physics_today.html

Its possible that Klaus Fuchs gave nuclear know-how to Huanwu-Peng and Kun Huang in the UK between 1945 and 1950.  They were assistants to Max Born.  They returned to China later and became stars in China.

The French may also have helped train them starting even before the German occupation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qian_Sanqiang

Qian went for France in 1937. He studied in Collège de Sorbonne and Collège de France, doing research under Frédéric Joliot-Curie and Irène Joliot-Curie. He returned to China in 1948.

Joliot-Curie was a communist.

There were Chinese “students” at several key places.  In America, UK, France, and possibly even in Germany.  (I have misplaced the reference.)

After graduating in 1936 from Qinghua University, one of China’s leading science institutions, he traveled to France to conduct research at the Curie Laboratory and elsewhere.

Like many Chinese scholars who studied abroad, Qian Sanqiang (pronounced cheeyen sahn-cheeyahng) was sympathetic to the Communist revolution in 1949 and resolved to help the Communists “build the country.”

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE6DC133FF930A35754C0A964958260

Hypothesis: Chinese students abroad were in many cases communists and dual agents of the Russian and Chinese intelligence services.  This may have included Qian Sanqiang, Huanwu-Peng, Kun Huang and others.

Fuchs may have passed additional technical secrets to Russia and China in the late 1940’s through Huanwu-Peng, Kun Huang, both Max Born assistants like Fuchs and possibly in meetings with Qiang Sanqiang before 1948.

China has been intentionally spreading nuclear know-how to other countries according to a new book coming out.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/09/science/09bomb.html?_r=2&ref=science&pagewanted=all

http://www.sentientdevelopments.com/2008/12/nyt-hidden-travels-of-atomic-bomb.html

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Steven Chu has been nominated to Department of Energy by Obama.  Chu’s parents came from China c. 1945.

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1997/chu-autobio.html

My father, Ju Chin Chu, came to the United States in 1943 to continue his education at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in chemical engineering, and two years later, my mother, Ching Chen Li, joined him to study economics. A generation earlier, my mother’s grandfather earned his advanced degrees in civil engineering at Cornell while his brother studied physics under Perrin at the Sorbonne before they returned to China.

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After the Liberation, he served as director of the French National Center for Scientific Research and became France’s first High Commissioner for Atomic Energy. In 1948 he oversaw the construction of the first French atomic reactor. A devout Communist, he was relieved of his duties in 1950 for political reasons. Joliot-Curie was also one of the eleven signatories to the Russell-Einstein Manifesto in 1955. Although he retained his professorship at the Collège de France, on the death of his wife in 1956, he took over her position as Chair of Nuclear Physics at the Sorbonne.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Joliot-Curie

Search

Perrin Joliot-Curie

Heisenberg’s War: The Secret History of the German Bomb – Google Books Result

by Thomas Powers – 2000 – History – 640 pages
In the years before the war Perrin and Joliot-Curie, longtime friends, both acquired summer houses in the small French coastal town of Paimpol.
books.google.com/books?isbn=0306810115
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Did Steven Chu’s family help in getting atomic or other know-how for China?  Were they part of China’s know-how gathering network?  Did they recruit other Chinese in the West?  Were they part of Russia’s network?  Was Russia using Chinese to pass under the radar?
Diversity at Berkeley National Lab
Diversity means hiring children of Chinese profs in China to come to the US and take jobs from whites?  It means building a network of Chinese in the US at universities, government and weapons labs?
Scroll down to students.  Is this building a network for China in the US?
==Wen Ho Lee org opposed Bill Richardson
Who funds this organization?
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Lawrence Berkeley and Lawrence Livermore are two different labs.  Steven Chu may not have a security clearance, or a very high one.  He is not a nuclear weapons expert like Thomas C. Reed.  But at DOE, Chu will control the nuclear labs. He can promote the Chinese network and move people into the labs.  This is what Sudoplatov said that Oppenheimer, Fermi, etc. did in the 1940’s.   Oppenheimer got his Ph.D. under Max Born.  Fuchs was an assistant to Born.  Fermi’s assistant Bruno Pontecorvo was a spy who fled after Fuchs’s arrest.
Fuchs was arrested Jan 1950, Pontecorvo went to Russia in August 1950.  Pontecorvo also had a position in the UK.

In 1948, after he obtained British citizenship, he was invited by John Cockcroft to contribute to the British atomic bomb project at AERE, Harwell where he joined the Nuclear Physics Division under Egon Bretscher. In 1950 he was appointed to the chair of physics at the University of Liverpool which he was due to take up in January, 1951.

However, on August 31, 1950, in the middle of a holiday in Italy, he abruptly left Rome for Stockholm with his wife and three sons without informing friends or relatives. The next day he was helped by Soviet agents to enter the USSR from Finland. His abrupt disappearance caused much concern to many of the western intelligence services, especially those of Britain and the USA who were worried about the escape of atomic secrets to the Soviet Union after the then recent case of Klaus Fuchs. But as was pointed out immediately, Pontecorvo had had only limited access to “secret subjects” and even later no allegation of spying or of transferring of secrets to the Soviets has ever been made against him.

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It isn’t just a matter of whether they pass secrets themselves or even know them, but whether they build a network.  Do they inhibit people to turn in suspicious Chinese spies?  Won’t Steven Chu signal to whites, why bother?  He will undermine security just by being in charge.  He will help spread and build the Chinese network.  He demoralizes whites who see the loss of what they built.  That makes China win.  It doesn’t matter if he passes an envelope with secrets.
Steven Chu was one of 46 employees named in a 2006 PricewatershouseCoopers audit of improper compensation practices at the University of California. [11] Records produced under the California Public Relations Act also show that he was one of at least 29 employees offered unusual perks in hiring letters, perks which the university had not made public.[12]
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Principles for a Diverse Community

Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory is principally an institution of scientific research, committed to addressing the needs of society. A diverse workforce is an invaluable asset to innovation and research excellence. To this end, we must embody the following principles to successfully affect the Laboratory’s mission and embrace our diverse workplace community.

  • We affirm the inherent dignity in all of us and strive to maintain an environment characterized by respect, fairness, and inclusion. Our valued community encompasses an array of races, creeds, and social circumstances. We recognize and cherish the richness contributed by our diversity.
  • We accept open expression of our individuality and diversity within the bounds of courtesy, respoect, and sensitivity. We take pride in our collective achievements. We honor our differences.
  • As mandated by law and reaffirmed here, we will not tolerate any manifestations of discrimination, including those based on race, ethnicity, gender, age, disability, sexual orientation, religious or political beliefs, and status within the Laboratory.
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This sends the message: don’t turn in Chinese you suspect of being spies.  Don’t question the Chinese building their network here.  Don’t interfere with Chinese ethnocentrism and racism in hiring.
The diversity statement is directed against whites.  Its only intended to silence whites.  Its meant to intimidate and cow whites.  Its written or approved by Steven Chu.  Its intended by Chu to promote the Chinese network in the US.  Chu knows this means giving secrets and kn0w-how to China.  In fact, he intends to give China all the know-how he can.  China is spreading that to Pakistan, Iran, and elsewhere.  Chu has already worked against us.  He is now with this diversity statement.  He will build China’s network inside our labs and make it a thought crime to challenge suspicious behavior by Chinese in the US and in weapons labs.
Steven Chu Chinese Academy of Sciences, Foreign Member,1998
Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao (R) meets with Chinese-American physicist Steven Chu, the 1997 Nobel Physics Prize laureate, in Beijing on Oct. 11, 2007. [Xinhua Photo]

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A thread with comments on Steven Chu pick by Obama
I think that steven chu would be a great help. Not because he won some prize, but because he is Asian.” Slayer.

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The running together of paragraphs and other text doesn’t come out.  When I try to remove it, it just comes back.  Sorry.
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The above are hypotheses or speculation.  These are questions not assertions.  Restate all statements as questions.  No disparagement of any person is intended.  Comments and corrections welcome. All other disclaimers apply.
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12 Responses to “Thomas C Reed Chinese Nuclear Tests”

  1. Joshua Says:

    You are disgusting. I’m a Chinese American with a full Top Secret national security clearance, as are many others in the CIA, State, DOD, Treasury, etc. And I wasn’t even born here. Dr. Chu was born and raised only in America.

    You disgust me. The fact is, WE are the ones who TRULY love America, because we love the USA in spite of lifetime of racists like you (judging and grouping an entire race of people to behavioral problems/treason, yeah, that’s the definition of racism).

    Were there Chinese spies in the U.S. Yes, but NOT ONE was a born or raised in the U.S.-type of Chinese American; all were adult immigrants. On the other hand, all those Jewish and WASP folks helping out Russia, China, and Israel? Born and raised in the U.S.

    If you’re going to profile, then the RIGHT thing to do is to automatically assume that Chinese Americans who grew up here in the U.S. are the LEAST likely to betray our country. THAT’S a fact. We’re more reliable than the Mormons.

  2. Varjags Says:

    Salut!
    Don’t worry so about -China will go down the same way like west world,by Islamization and African immigrants,and will disappears faster than U.S. or Indo-Europeans.They have no pride,that because they were fast assimilate in each culture or “race” .Chinese women is good example;) The same to Japanese,Korea,Thailand and other south east Asian cultures,nations!

  3. Old Atlantic Says:

    Joshua, you and the others shouldn’t have security clearances at all. Why? Your own words show where your loyalty lies, to the Chinese race. Your identity is as a Chinese. The founding stock of Anglo Celts, Germans, Dutch, etc. are whom you identify as whom you are against.

    Its out of that type of resentment that betrayal comes. If Chinese have such a resentment of whites, then why bring them here? Once here why give them security clearances? Why put them in charge of others?

    You point out yourself that Chinese not born here have been spies. There is no reason to give a security clearance to any person who is not a natural born American. I would say that they should have come before the 1924 immigration reform.

    You are not born here and claim to be more loyal than Mormons. That you make that statement shows how biased you are. It shows you identify with the Chinese race. That’s why you shouldn’t have an American security clearance. Chinese are taking our know-how back to China. Chu is part of the pipeline of bringing Chinese here.

    Huanwu-Peng came to the West in the 1940’s, got our know-how, went back to China became a hero of their bomb missile program and then his son came back to the US and got a Ph.D. at Carnegie Mellon in physics in the 1980’s and then an academic job in the US. America has lost its ability to keep know-how and secrets because of this two way pipeline. That is the reality. Steven Chu promotes that loss of our know-how.

    China then spreads the know-how it got from Huanwu Peng and Qian Sanqiang (as Thomas Reed has shown) and the others in the 1940’s and 1950’s and gives that to Pakistan and other countries so that they will use it on whites, Caucasians, or non-Chinese. That is a racist nuclear policy. To support that pipeline is to support the racist policy of using this know-how to ultimately nuke whites and other non-Chinese. That is the real racism.

  4. Hal K Says:

    Joshua,

    There is some strange logic in your argument. You try to turn the resentment of your people towards whites into a positive attribute. Because your people are resentful, you think that this proves their loyalty.

    All historically white countries throughout the West have been opened up to non-white immigration. Nothing comparable has occurred in any Oriental countries. Japan, for example, preserves its country for Japanese. Even with low fertility rates, the Japanese people will continue to exist, and Japan will continue to be their homeland. Until some Oriental country voluntarily opens up to non-Oriental immigration the way white countries have to non-whites, Orientals such as you have no moral right to complain about racism in the countries they immigrate to, especially when they are explicitly protected by anti-discrimination laws.

    By the way, you are disgusting! How does that feel?

  5. Old Atlantic Says:

    “in spite of lifetime of racists like you ” Joshua above. This suggests it includes employees of the US government. Is this attitude towards coworkers or whites in the population one conducive to keeping secrets? To keeping China from building networks in the US that give preference to Chinese? Don’t Chinese businesses and banks try to help each other and finance each other?

  6. Jim Says:

    What racist idiocy. Thank goodness security personnel don’t think like you—you’d discount people purely for their race alone, and probably let people through purely on their race alone. You haven’t any insinuation against Chu except “there have been Chinese spies in the past” and “Chu is Chinese.” This is extremely idiotic—by this logic, you should never hire ANYBODY for secure positions, because there have been spies from ALL backgrounds.

  7. Jim Says:

    …and the head of the DOE actually has almost nothing to do with laboratory security policies. The fact that you would assume so shows you total and utter ignorance of the subject!

  8. Old Atlantic Says:

    Chu’s PC policy is directed at whites. It intimidates security thinking and reporting. Chu brings a pipeline of students from China who pass know-how back. Men’s median wages are the same as in 1973, p60-235.pdf graph page 19. This is partly from know-how transfer to China that results in manufacturing know-how. We should teach our own. Do Asians point out the Wright Island Model that immigration causes genetic replacement? If Asians are better at math and also care for us, wouldn’t they point that out? Shouldn’t Chu?

  9. Old Atlantic Says:

    Shouldn’t Chu point out as head of Dept of Energy that we should stop immigration including student visas to save our limited energy and not pay for oil from the Middle East?


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