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Bernanke: thralls don’t get retirement

February 24, 2009

Ben Bernanke testimony to Chris Dodd Committee to give your place to an immigrant.

http://banking.senate.gov/public/

http://johanns.senate.gov/

Johanns asked, no retirement for thralls?  Is that what you said?

Bernanke: Yes.

Chairman Ben S. Bernanke

Semiannual Monetary Policy Report to the Congress

Before the Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs, U.S. Senate, Washington, D.C.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/testimony/bernanke20090224a.htm

How his testimony might have gone:

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/population-genetics-island-model-one-way-migration/

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1213928&blobtype=pdf

We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.

That’s the plan Senators.  Its your plan.  Genocide the American people.  Laugh at them when they re-elect you.  You did it, you enjoyed it, now they suffer.  This is the fun part for you.

Thralls need to understand, if you lose your country, you are a slave.  That’s how it works.

Americans didn’t pay attention while they lost their country and so they are slaves now.  Slaves don’t get retirement.  So Americans don’t get retirement.

When their country was being given away, their know-how given away, their manufacturing given away, the control of the institutions of their society given away, they chose to not pay attention or act. they lose their country.  They are slaves.   Slaves don’t get retirement.

American people didn’t keep their country or know how or manufacturing.  They were indifferent to reality. They deserve their fate because they didn’t pay attention or act. They get nothing. They are thralls and are going out of genetic existence.  they are a race going extinct, and that means no retirement and no pension.

Senator Mike Johanns:  Did you say thralls are out on retirement?
Bernanke:  Yes. Men’s median wages same as 1973.  Thralls were counting on house inflation and stock inflation bubble.  Those won’t work to fund retirement.

Princeton only educates Ph.D. students from China and India and Muslims, not whites.  So Americans are being driven to extinction.  that is the plan.  and they don’t get any retirement.  that is part of the plan to force them into extinction.

Part of the way their genes converge to those of the immigrants is that they don’t get a retirement.  That’s part of genociding them.

They don’t get retirement, they get extinction.  That’s the Senate’s plan.  Its a Senate of rich men. They take more money from Wall st.  the public is either stupid or indifferent or cowardly.  In any case, the reward for those traits is extinction.

America is a country engineered by the elites for what is better for the elites.  We then tell our victims, everyone else, they are bigots if they complain.

Our plan is genocide of the rest.  Its a math theorem that this is what we are doing by immigration.  We are now living that out.
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http://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf

Men’s median wages are the same as 1973, see p60-235.pdf graph page 19 at census.gov.  This is from the 1990 immigration act that increased immigration to over 1 million per year.  Women’s median wages are what men’s were in 1960, see same graph.

Bernanke said: no retirement for thralls.  Your house? No retirement there.  Your pension? Only if you are a gov employee.  That leaves being a Wall Streeter, Lobbyist or partner at a big law firm.  That’s not you?  Then there is no retirement for you.

The guy who lost all with Madoff and is now working again. That is you.  You let them take your country with low wage immigration.  You are a thrall.  Thralls don’t get retirement.  Didn’t you know?

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Testimony before the Chris Dodd Committee.  Dodd was co-sponsor of the 1990 immigration act.  Others include Kennedy, Hatch and Bentsen.

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2009/02/23/senate-eulogy-for-teddy-kennedy/

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Famous photo of Senators laughing.

http://images.google.com/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&hl=en&q=The%20Most%20Exclusive%20Club%3A%20A%20History%20of%20the%20Modern%20United%20States%20Senate%20%20Lewis%20L.%20Gould&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

Kennedy, Dole, Dodd, Hatch, and Lloyd Bentsen all big immigrationists.  All voted for 1990 increase (?).

http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=TX&VIPID=762

It was the Bush 1990 increase that pushed legal immigration to over 1 million per year. That was intended to finish us off.

http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=UT&VIPID=811

Hatch voted for it.

This is the cause of our debt and fraud crisis today.  Its a fraud crisis caused by 3rd world immigration.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d101:SN00358:@@@P

COSPONSORS(4), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]:     (Sort: by date)

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d101:SN00358:%3C/A

Sponsor: Sen Kennedy, Edward M. [MA] (introduced 2/7/1989)      Cosponsors (4)
Related Bills: H.RES.531H.RES.538H.R.1630H.R.4300H.R.4506
Latest Major Action: 11/29/1990 Became Public Law No: 101-649.

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S.358
Title: A bill to amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to change the level, and preference system for admission, of immigrants to the United States, and to provide for administrative naturalization, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Kennedy, Edward M. [MA] (introduced 2/7/1989)      Cosponsors (4)
Related Bills: H.RES.531H.RES.538H.R.1630H.R.4300H.R.4506
Latest Major Action: 11/29/1990 Became Public Law No: 101-649.


MAJOR ACTIONS:

2/7/1989 Introduced in Senate
6/19/1989 Committee on Judiciary. Reported to Senate by Senator Biden with an amendment in the nature of a substitute. With written report No. 101-55. Additional and minority views filed.
7/13/1989 Passed/agreed to in Senate: Passed Senate with an amendment by Yea-Nay Vote. 81-17. Record Vote No: 117.
10/3/1990 Committee on Judiciary discharged.
10/3/1990 Passed/agreed to in House: On passage Passed without objection.
10/23/1990 Resolving differences — Senate actions: Senate disagreed to the House amendments by Voice Vote.
10/26/1990 Conference report H. Rept. 101-955 filed.
10/26/1990 Conference report agreed to in Senate: Senate agreed to conference report by Yea-Nay Vote. 89-8. Record Vote No: 323.
10/27/1990 Conference report agreed to in House: On agreeing to the conference report Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: 264 – 118 (Roll no. 530).
10/27/1990 Cleared for White House.
11/26/1990 Presented to President.
11/29/1990 Signed by President.
11/29/1990 Became Public Law No: 101-649.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d101:SN00358:@@@R

Senate voted 89 to 8 to doom whites to being a minority.  There is no question of their betrayal.  This shows hate.  They haven’t tried to reverse it either, but to increase it, legal and illegal.   Even with California bankrupt, and the credit crisis and millions losing their jobs, they make no effort to stop the over a million a year legal immigration of this bill.

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Newt Gingrich didn’t vote:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1990/roll530.xml

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http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=MA&VIPID=358

Voted for huge increase in 1990 Sen. Kennedy helped pass in 1990 that increased the numbers in all categories of immigration. America’s immigration tradition had been around 250,000 immigrants a year until the 1980s when numbers rose dramatically to more than 500,000 a year. After Sen. Kennedy voted in 1990 in favor of raising limits, immigration has now snowballed to around 1,000,000 (one million) a year, contributing the majority of U.S. population and labor growth, congestion and sprawl.

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Barack Hussein Obama II testifies to Joint Session of Congress on the genocide plan update.   No matter what good we do, the bad increases more to cause the genocide.  That’s the plan. That’s the Senate and Wall Street elite genocide plan.  If you don’t believe it, ask the MSM.  On 9/11, they called you bigots and said more Muslim immigration.

America is a nation of cowards, Eric Holder said it.  You are afraid of the word bigot.  We can take your country and leave you no retirement, no health insurance, no job and no house.  How do you like that cowards?   The stupid, indifferent and cowards get the same reward.  They lose all and are thralls.  Welcome to your thralldom.

http://grades.betterimmigration.com/

http://grades.betterimmigration.com/delegation.php3?District=CT

http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=CT&VIPID=148

Chris Dodd

Career Recent
Sen. Dodd has earned an overall career immigration voting grade of D-
View History
Sen. Dodd has earned a recent immigration voting grade of F-
2006 – 2009
Grades Updated: February 23, 2009

Comment posted at WaPo

http://grades.betterimmigration.com/

Men’s median wages same as 1973:

http://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1213928&blobtype=pdf

“We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.”

Bernanke said you get no retirement.  Your wages, health insurance, retirement, schools, crime, and future are converging to those of the immigrants.  Like it?  Senators do.

Search Senate most exclusive club to see senators laughing at you for voting for them after they did this to you.  They get paid by Wall Street.  You don’t.  Bernanke will be made rich by Wall St when he retires.  Like Greenspan.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/24/AR2009022401832.html

Obama to Lay Out Plan for Economy in Speech
By William Branigin

Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, February 24, 2009; 3:01 PM


Senate eulogy for Teddy Kennedy

February 23, 2009

Senate eulogy for Ted Kennedy.  A eulogy for Teddy Kennedy. What the Senate would say if it could.

Teddy Kennedy: Killing Mary Jo Kopechne wasn’t the worst thing he did.  We hurt our constituents by immigration.  We bring non-whites here to take their jobs at lower wages and to rape them and kill them.  We enjoy it.

When Teddy Kennedy went back to his hotel and left Mary Jo Kopechne to die in an air bubble, he poured himself a drink.  He enjoyed the situation.  He was back in his hotel, probably had a shower, was having a drink in his bathrobe.  He called friends on the phone and told them the Protestant bigots would make something of this the next day.  They laughed together.

We the Senate laugh too.  We too enjoy the situation. We do it over and over with our constituents.  We bring in the immigrants. We take money from Wall Street and CEO’s.  Our constituents lose their jobs or pay or health benefits or pensions.  We enjoy it.  They vote for us to be re-elected. They praise us. We despise them for it.  Over time that despising turns to hate.

We the Senate hate our constituents.  We hate them for electing us after we hurt them with immigration, legal immigration. We hate them for saying they oppose illegal immigration but not legal immigration.  That shows we own them.  That’s the feeling Teddy had when he let Mary Jo Kopechne die while he had a drink in his bathrobe. That’s the feeling we have when our constituents say they only oppose illegal immigration.  We own them and they are afraid of us.  We can have them killed or rape if we choose to. And we choose to.

When Kennedy sat in his hotel room having a drink while Mary Jo Kopechne died, we were there with him having that drink too.  We are with him still.  We are enjoying the demise of our constituents.  We enjoy their suffering.  We despise them for voting for us after we hurt them with legal immigration.  We hate them.

We can’t say it often enough, We hate our constituents.  We have a physical need to harm them. We do it with legal immigration.  We do it with stimulus. We do it with bank bailouts.  We do it with hate and out of hate.

We kept Muslim immigration after 9/11 even when sending our constituents to Iraq to die or lose arms or legs there.  We kept doing it and our constituents kept voting for us.  We have to hate them, no self respecting person could do anything else.   Immigration is the terrorism of the Senate.    We have to hate our constituents.  They vote for us after we bring terrorism against them in their own country.

http://www.ytedk.com/

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/

The Senate lives them and does it.  That shows that’s what they feel.

Famous photo of Senators laughing.

http://images.google.com/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&hl=en&q=The%20Most%20Exclusive%20Club%3A%20A%20History%20of%20the%20Modern%20United%20States%20Senate%20%20Lewis%20L.%20Gould&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

Kennedy, Dole, Dodd, Hatch, and Lloyd Bentsen all big immigrationists.  All voted for 1990 increase (?).

http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=TX&VIPID=762

It was the Bush 1990 increase that pushed legal immigration to over 1 million per year. That was intended to finish us off.

http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=UT&VIPID=811

Hatch voted for it.

This is the cause of our debt and fraud crisis today.  Its a fraud crisis caused by 3rd world immigration.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d101:SN00358:@@@P

COSPONSORS(4), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]:     (Sort: by date)

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d101:SN00358:%3C/A

Sponsor: Sen Kennedy, Edward M. [MA] (introduced 2/7/1989)      Cosponsors (4)
Related Bills: H.RES.531H.RES.538H.R.1630H.R.4300H.R.4506
Latest Major Action: 11/29/1990 Became Public Law No: 101-649.

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NEW SEARCH | HOME | HELP |


S.358
Title: A bill to amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to change the level, and preference system for admission, of immigrants to the United States, and to provide for administrative naturalization, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Kennedy, Edward M. [MA] (introduced 2/7/1989)      Cosponsors (4)
Related Bills: H.RES.531H.RES.538H.R.1630H.R.4300H.R.4506
Latest Major Action: 11/29/1990 Became Public Law No: 101-649.


MAJOR ACTIONS:

2/7/1989 Introduced in Senate
6/19/1989 Committee on Judiciary. Reported to Senate by Senator Biden with an amendment in the nature of a substitute. With written report No. 101-55. Additional and minority views filed.
7/13/1989 Passed/agreed to in Senate: Passed Senate with an amendment by Yea-Nay Vote. 81-17. Record Vote No: 117.
10/3/1990 Committee on Judiciary discharged.
10/3/1990 Passed/agreed to in House: On passage Passed without objection.
10/23/1990 Resolving differences — Senate actions: Senate disagreed to the House amendments by Voice Vote.
10/26/1990 Conference report H. Rept. 101-955 filed.
10/26/1990 Conference report agreed to in Senate: Senate agreed to conference report by Yea-Nay Vote. 89-8. Record Vote No: 323.
10/27/1990 Conference report agreed to in House: On agreeing to the conference report Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: 264 – 118 (Roll no. 530).
10/27/1990 Cleared for White House.
11/26/1990 Presented to President.
11/29/1990 Signed by President.
11/29/1990 Became Public Law No: 101-649.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d101:SN00358:@@@R

Senate voted 89 to 8 to doom whites to being a minority.  There is no question of their betrayal.  This shows hate.  They haven’t tried to reverse it either, but to increase it, legal and illegal.   Even with California bankrupt, and the credit crisis and millions losing their jobs, they make no effort to stop the over a million a year legal immigration of this bill.

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Newt Gingrich didn’t vote:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1990/roll530.xml

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http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=MA&VIPID=358

Voted for huge increase in 1990 Sen. Kennedy helped pass in 1990 that increased the numbers in all categories of immigration. America’s immigration tradition had been around 250,000 immigrants a year until the 1980s when numbers rose dramatically to more than 500,000 a year. After Sen. Kennedy voted in 1990 in favor of raising limits, immigration has now snowballed to around 1,000,000 (one million) a year, contributing the majority of U.S. population and labor growth, congestion and sprawl.


The new white Renaissance

February 23, 2009

Vanishing American, “Have we done this to ourselves?”

http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2009/02/have-we-done-this-to-ourselves.html

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3805#comment

re: “100 most indispensable books”

E. M. Forster wrote: The only books that influence us are those for which we are ready, and which have gone a little further down our particular path than we have yet got ourselves. [ ” A Book That Influenced Me”]. Forster was  also part of the  so-called ‘Bloomsbury Group’.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomsbury_Group

Ian Jobling:

http://whiteamerica.us/index.php/articles/articles/building_our_movement_theory/

My comment:

In building a theory of racial loyalty we need a set of data and characterizations of the data.  One datum is the reaction to the OJ verdict.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/oj/view/5_hi.html

Listen to the black lawyers and intellectuals saying the black reaction you see before you is not hatred of whites or celebrating the killing of whites.  Its almost as if Frontline created a training tape that either side could use.  Liberals can see how to lie about what people see.  The right, or whatever we call ourselves, can say see how the talking heads lie about what you see in front of you with your own eyes.

There are several levels of race loyalty on display.  The black jury voted for OJ.  The blacks react with joy.  The black lawyers and intellectuals then say its not black racism, or hate of whites in general or celebrating the killing of two whites.  So all levels of the black race express their race loyalty in their own way and in the way that is most useful to their race.

==Continuation

Whites fought among themselves in Europe.  When they encountered non-white races in their expansion outward they mostly continued to fight other whites.

Now whites have to build a white loyalty to fight the other races.  now that the threat is real of white genocide.   This is as useful as stopping the barbarian invasions of Europe that allowed the Renaissance.  The Renaissance came from men of the sword stopping the non white invasions.
We need a new birth of race consciousness among whites to save our people and our civilization.  This has to build on the individual nationalistic loyalties as well as build a new loyalty among whites.  This is being forced on us because it is the only way for us to survive.  We still have sufficient numbers to do so.  But only if we act.  Speaking the truth and not being cowed by PC is the first step.

==Some prior articles and threads at Vanishing American

http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2009/02/dialogues-with-demagogues.html

Great article VA.

You might want to save the following pdf from DOJ’s website before it disappears.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub…b/pdf/ htius.pdf

The pdf gets the screen shots but there are also data sets that can be downloaded. I don’t think they are in the pdf. To get those, you have to go to the webpages with graphs, click on the graph and click on the spreadsheet link. That is actually a text file, and you can save it adding the extension .csv when you save it. It will then load automatically into a spreadsheet program including free ones. I go through some of the steps below.

http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

“Racial differences exist, with blacks disproportionately represented among homicide victims and offenders ”

If you go to above and click on graphs and click on spreadsheet you get stuff like following. These can be saved as text files
with extension .csv and then opened in a spreadsheet program,
including free ones.

You may want to get this data now before it disappears.

http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/homicide/…ts/ vracetab.csv

Bureau of Justice Statistics,,,
Homicide trends in the United States,,,
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide,,,
Date of release: January 17 2007,,,

“Homicide Victimization Rates per 100,000 Population by Race”,,,
,,,
Year,White,Black,Other
1976,5.1,37.1,4.9
1977,5.4,36.2,4.7
1978,5.6,35.1,4
1979,6.1,37.5,4.1


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http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2009/02/dialogue-so-far.html

Good discussion: (also at other cited links at VA)

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/vanam/6149761271405769734/

Great set of quotes VA. Especially the not an American one. Very close to Michelle Obama.

Michelle first time proud:

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/…least-26-years/

Obama typical white person

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/…least-26-years/

Obama calling Palin a pig:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u…h? v=utHZ7zYytLk

You can drag it to second 48 and see him put his hand over his forehead when he implies Sarah Palin is a pig. That’s with him saying the words.

Obama giving McCain the finger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D…h? v=DnEhmbKazdw

Obama giving Hillary the finger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U…h?v=UoOFp- RDpvM

Rev Wright God Damn America

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9…h? v=9hPR5jnjtLo

OJ Simpson Verdict

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O…h? v=OiWe0BTxGxo

You can drag them a couple seconds and still get a lot from them.

Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest,
and in the joy of a new beginning,
we ask you to help us work for that day
when black will not be asked to get in back,
when brown can stick around,
when yellow will be mellow,
when the red man can get ahead, man;
and when white will embrace what is right.
That all those who do justice and love mercy
say Amen.

Rev. Joseph Lowery

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8…h? v=8atFjvN488s

at 5:23 Obama smiles as Lowery mentions whites.

Obama scripted this and the attack on Sarah Palin is what I believe.


Gravatar Video of black crowd reactions to OJ Verdict

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/fr…/view/ 5_hi.html

(above is worth watching and continue to some of the black commentary trying to explain it away. These are the top blacks in America lying to your face. Its important to remember how they lied in unison to deny what we saw, pure hatred of whites on display. A hatred that is genetic and can never be eliminated by any education or cultural training.)

Charles Ogletree of Harvard Law School says that the celebration was not what you see. Ogletree is around 2 min in the tape. Obama was president of law review at Harvard.

http://media.www.hlrecord.org/me…a- 3515192.shtml

Ogletree on Obama at HLS above.

Search Ogletree Obama for more of him and Obama.

More Frontline on OJ verdict

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/fr…ntline/oj/view/


Gravatar When Harvard Law Professor Ogletree lies about the reaction to the OJ verdict he takes moral ownership of the entire crime. Harvard Law School does too. Obama is a product of this mentality at HLS.

AG Eric Holder “Nation of Cowards”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3…h? v=3RtzGraUV9c


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http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2009/02/can-we-talk-again.html

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/vanam/8306201027784217731/

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Is White loyalty less today or more?  Was white loyalty high in the 19th century?  In WWI?  In WWII?  Are the two world wars and 3rd world immigration a new crucible for the birth of white loyalty?  Aren’t whites still loyal?  Don’t they prefer their own?  Don’t they show that still?  Have always done so?

If whites can form a bond and eject the 3rd world invasion in our lands, then we can have a new white Renaissance as great as the white Renaissance that started sometime around 1300.   That was made possible by centuries of fighting against invasions into Europe by non-whites.   That fight had meaning.  It was essential for the Renaissance.

Are we at such a time again?  Must we not rise to the challenge to fight the invasion by non-whites into our lands?  Isn’t that what is needed for the New White Renaissance?

Dutch judges rule Muslims can’t leave Islam

February 23, 2009

(Spoof) Dutch judges ruled today in the Geert Wilders trial that Muslims can not leave Islam and can not criticize or change Islam.

Wilders had made a motion that if the judges were to rule against him it would be tantamount to ruling that Muslims could not criticize their own religion and leave it.    What if a Muslim decided Islam was just a cult of the desert and decided it was false and stupid and a lie his lawyers asked.   What if he wanted to tell his friends and family his new insight? Isn’t every time a Muslim leaves Islam a statement by that Muslim that Islam is false?  Isn’t saying Islam is false an attack on Islam?

What if Saudi Arabia passed a law allowing all religions and criticism of any of them in any way. Suppose people in Arabia started mocking Islam and many left.  Isn’t that what we want?

The judges agreed.  They declared that Muslims can not leave Islam in Holland.  They said Muslims may not criticize Islam.

What about changing it the lawyers shouted?

No, Muslims can not change Islam because that is an attack on Islam.

Geert’s lawyer: So they must adhere to the form of Islam proclaimed by the government of Saudi Arabia without deviation?

Judges: yes.

Geert’s lawyer: And that applies world wide.

Judges:  yes.

Geert’s lawyer: Any anyone, Muslim or infidel who says otherwise will be put into prison in Holland or in any court adhering to the law, which is universal?

Judges:  Yes.  Islam is universal and the law must be as well.

Geert’s lawyer:  So Islam can’t be criticized even by Muslims and so can’t be changed, even by Muslims.  Only the original form of Islam can apply and no person can leave Islam anywhere in the world, because that would be to deny Islam.  This is the universal law everywhere in the world.

Judges: Yes.

==Motions to submit to the court for ruling

Can a Muslim leave Islam in Holland?

Can a Muslim have reasons for leaving Islam in Holland?

Can the reason a Muslim leaves Islam be that Islam is a wicked faith in that Muslim’s mind?

If that is the reason they want to leave, the true reason, then are they forbidden to leave Islam in Holland?

But if the reason they wanted to leave was to drink alcohol that would be allowed in Holland?

Can a person leave Islam and say the reason?

If the reason is Islam is a wicked faith can they say that?

If someone asks them why did you leave Islam can they answer?

Can they say, I think Islam is a wicked faith?

If they think Islam is the same as Nazism can they say it?

Can they even leave Islam if that is true, cross their heart hope to die, reason?

Before a person leaves Islam, can they say to others, Muslim or not, I am thinking of leaving Islam because I think

a) its like Nazism.

b) its a wicked faith.

c) it commands evil.

Can they discuss any of those reasons?

After they leave the faith can they say that is why?

Can they try to get other Muslims to leave Islam by saying their beliefs?

What about others?

What about those who believe Islam targets them?

Can they state their belief?

Can they try to get Muslims to leave or change Islam because of what they think Islam is?

Wasn’t all of the above allowed for those leaving Christianity over centuries?

Aren’t things like that about Christianity taught in schools, movies, newspapers, etc. in Holland and other Western lands?  Isn’t there a war on Christianity where anti-Christians can say anything they want against Christianity and attribute any bad thing to it?

These motions should be submitted to the court in the Netherlands in the Geert Wilders trial.

Doesn’t this show the real reason for the prosecution of Geert Wilders is because he is a white politician who the white establishment in the Netherlands loathe?  They loathe him for being loyal to whites and saying the truth about Islam and non-white immigration?  That is why he is being prosecuted?

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http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2009/02/geert-wilders-american-tour.html#readfurther

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Comment posted Gates of Vienna

How can a person reform Islam if it can’t be criticized?

How can a person leave Islam if they can’t condemn Islam?

If a person thinks Islam is a wicked faith, is it illegal
for them to leave Islam in the Netherlands?

If that’s their true reason, they can’t leave Islam?

Or if they do, they can’t say it?  Even if asked?

Wilders should submit motions to the court asking above and other questions at my site.

Is it against the law in Holland for a person to leave Islam because they think Islam is a wicked faith?  Or they think its close to Nazism? Submit that to the court.

<a href=”https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2009/02/23/dutch-judges-rule-muslims-cant-leave-islam/”&gt;
More motions and questions </a>

Is the Dutch court ruling that:

  1. Islam can not be reformed
  2. because to reform Islam it must be criticized
  3. and criticizing Islam is illegal under Dutch law
  4. and therefore Islam can not be reformed.
  5. Since leaving Islam is a criticism of it, in fact is to condemn it, leaving Islam is also forbidden under Dutch law.
  6. Dutch law requires that Muslims not leave Islam and that Islam stay as the unreconstructed form of the original Koran and the original Muslim invasion of Europe.   That is Dutch law.

El Ingles at Gates Vienna on BNP

February 17, 2009

Pick a Tribe, Any Tribe
by El Inglés

Tribes

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2009/02/pick-tribe-any-tribe.html

“For even I, gentle reader, have too much of the cosmopolitan in me to rejoice in the notion of people identifying each other as mortal enemies for tribal reasons. Viewing the BNP homepage on one occasion for reasons which now escape me, I remember feeling my eyes start to glaze over at the group photos of happy white people being happy and white together. Why was it so important for them all to be white? What if one of them had been an Inuit? Would something terrible have happened? Were the Inuit any less worthy of human consideration, just because their ancestors went right when mine went left?”
I view BNP support as playing a role similar to that of a price in a free-market economy, which is to say that I see it as a signal conveying a certain type of information. If the BNP were to be banned and its support therefore to disappear at the electoral level, this information would be lost to the system, easing the pressure on the establishment parties to formulate a real response to Islamization, which I fervently hope they will eventually do.

Vanishing American has an excellent column which discusses this El Ingles piece, “The decline of “democracy”, and tribalism”

http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2009/02/decline-of-democracy-and-tribalism.html

(Comments below at times, and to begin with, are as if expressed to El Ingles.  So you means El Ingles.  They are really meant as questions for discussion and not a criticism of El Ingles or others holding similar views.)

If your foxhole is full of PCers expect to lose.  Join up with the BNP.  It really is the only choice in England.  You don’t seem to want the BNP to win.  What do you want?

You say that Gordon Brown and the PCers will get more pro-Muslim.  Do you expect the resistance to become more pro-Muslim too?  Or to become more centered around the British people?

What do you want?  A slow process of genetic replacement where the bulk happens after you are dead?  Isn’t that the heart of PC cowardice?  Isn’t that Gordon Brown’s wish too?  And his plan?  In the end aren’t you the same as Brown?  Let the other side win, but after I’m gone.


http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1213928&blobtype=pdf

We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.

Isn’t that your plan too?

The above is the actual theorem governing the situation.  When the genes are replaced the culture is too.

To stop the theorem you have to reverse the force.  That’s the math.  That’s the choice.

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Better to have the BNP Ballerina passing ammunition than El Ingles who might suddenly decide too many white people here.  Is that what he thinks when he sees faces of British troops in old photos or war films?  Too many whites?  Why are they all white?

His money quote:

For even I, gentle reader, have too much of the cosmopolitan in me to rejoice in the notion of people identifying each other as mortal enemies for tribal reasons.

Actually, the BNP Ballerina is more cosmopolitan.  It isn’t cosmopolitan, its just plain disloyalty and dislike of your own.   El Ingles.  The name says it all.  Ashamed to be English.

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A comment I posted at VA:

I agree with Cabbageroll’s comment and Western’s Critique.  For me the money quote from El Ingles is:

“For even I, gentle reader, have too much of the cosmopolitan in me to rejoice in the notion of people identifying each other as mortal enemies for tribal reasons. Viewing the BNP homepage on one occasion for reasons which now escape me, I remember feeling my eyes start to glaze over at the group photos of happy white people being happy and white together. Why was it so important for them all to be white? What if one of them had been an Inuit? Would something terrible have happened? Were the Inuit any less worthy of human consideration, just because their ancestors went right when mine went left?”

El Ingles makes it clear he doesn’t really think of himself as Mr. English.

==Comments from earlier VA posts

Great article VA with important quotes and insights. I can’t avoid elaborating on it if only to restate it.

For the virtuous to let the vicious vote the end of virtue is itself unvirtuous. Virtue is incomplete that lets virtue itself be destroyed by the vicious. Gets back close to Barry Goldwater.


I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!

But it has to be self-sustaining justice and virtue that are defended in an extreme way. Giving away virtue and justice is not virtue or justice.

Complete virtue and complete justice include the perpetuation of virtue and justice. And to the extent they are not reached yet, it means an approach towards them that converges not moves away from the target.

Liberalism moves away from the target of justice by not comprehending justice or virtue. Justice comes from virtue. There is no justice in an unvirtuous society perhaps or litte of it. (Which is what Plato meant perhaps.) Liberals send virtue packing by a variety of means including getting rid of the genes for virtue and replacing them with genes for unvirtue (relative to a society virtuous with respect to white genes).

If the delicate genes of virtue are eliminated, the result is to eliminate the meaning of justice. Its to return to the jungle.

Virtue and justice are concepts linked to a society with genes and culture to promote them and make them useful and meaningful.

Liberalism destroys justice and a just society by trying to extend the concept of justice to those who are not virtuous by reason of their genes and culture.

The virtues of white society depend on white genes and white culture as both have developed together. When the non-white is brought in on equal terms the result is to destroy the society built on a delicate balance.

This is another reason non-whites need to go back to their continents and leave us ours. But they don’t have the virtue or sense of justice to do that on their own. They will simply leech on us until we are dead and then move on without any thought forwards while we are here or backwards when we are gone.

Its up to us to have complete virtue and complete justice, which is to perpetuate virtue and justice by perpetuating ourselves and our society with us as the dominant majority.

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=1…feature=related

Above is a pro white child video by Saga. Its Tomorrow Belongs to Me. It shows white children. Liberals would call this the usual names.

OA – that is a good video. Beautiful.
-VA

Any ‘legitimately’-obtained successes on their part in this regard, obtained through whatsoever means, are in fact rendered illegitimate due to the cancellation of the democratic contract and corruption of the democratic game that their presence in Britain implied from the start.

It would scarcely be credible to suggest that there is no real political momentum being established here, or that the recent bowing and scraping to the believers is in actual fact little more than a trivial imbalance in the political equilibrium, soon to be corrected by Gordon Brown denouncing Muhammad as a paedophile and a murderer in the House of Commons, spittle flying from his lips. As Muslims continue to flood into the UK, it will become ever more difficult to avoid building on the precedents set in these days of cowardice for reasons I have examined at length elsewhere, but that are intuitively obvious anyway.

If the BNP were to be banned and its support therefore to disappear at the electoral level, this information would be lost to the system, easing the pressure on the establishment parties to formulate a real response to Islamization, which I fervently hope they will eventually do.

The whole article is a series of such contradictions.  He won’t be for the white English and he won’t accept their end.  But he won’t do anything but wait for the establishment parties.  And who forces their hand?  BNP.  Will he help BNP?  No.  So he will do nothing.

The establishment parties have their plan.  Its to genocide us.  Its for it to happen after they die.  Its for them to make a lot of money and live in gated communities while we are killed by the ethnic cleansing immigrants.  Its happening now.  They see it.

If it wasn’t their plan they would have changed already.  Republicans made it clear that was their plan with McCain and Steele.  They’ve chosen.  So has David Cameron.  So has Gordon Brown.  The New York Times chose to be owned by Carlos Slim.  They then attacked us as nativists.  They are his attack dog.

“Why I won’t fight” by El Ingles

is an alternative title.

recognizing that tribal feelings of a type I myself feel no strong attraction towards will play a vital role in the defence of what is good in that country; insisting that standard democratic processes will have to be cast aside to remove the influence of pernicious ideologies: to be frank, I would rather not have to think about any these things at all.

Why I will fight with BNP by Mr. English

is what we need.

http://www.pattonhq.com/speech.html

“When a man is lying in a shell hole, if he just stays there all day, a third world immigrant will get to him eventually.  His job.  His community.   His school.  All gone.  The hell with that idea. The hell with taking it.

That ethnic cleansing by 3rd world immigrants can be with a gun, knife, taking a job, affirmative action, bringing in more 3rd world immigrants, stimulus for 3rd world immigrants, bailout for immigrant mortgage defaults, lower rate mortgages for immigrants, cities and states for immigrants, schools for immigrants, immigrant studies which are just ethnic cleansing white meetings.   We can’t just sit and take any of it.  We have to fight back.  That means doing what it takes to achieve victory. Real victory.  Not where the 3rd world immigrants win on the next round.

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El Ingles summary:

White survival means white survival.  I don’t really like that.  But I would like it to happen without my being responsible for it.  That’s the real fascism.

When you turn survival over to the leader and you don’t want to know or be involved. And the leader may decide its you who doesn’t survive. That’s what our leaders have decided now.

We live in fascism right now and its genociding us.  Its doing it because you don’t want to be involved with our survival.  You just want it to happen. You want the leaders to do it.  Well the leaders are ethnically cleansing us, precisely because you won’t get involved.

You have to get involved all the way if you want to stop fascism.  People stopping leaders from genociding them is anti-fascism.  Not genocide in the future.  Its happening right now.  BNP is fighting fascism now.  BNP is fighting genocide now.

LibLabCon Democrats Republicans are real fascism and real genocide happening right now.  Gordon Brown, David Cameron, Barack Hussein Obama, George Bush, John McCain are the real fascist leaders practicing genocide on us right now.  Stopping that right now isn’t fascism its stopping establishment PC fascism.

The establishment PC fascism that came because you didn’t want to be bothered, you wanted the establishment parties to do it for you, provide for your existence and the survival of your extended family.  You don’t want to be bothered with those tasks.  They don’t either.  So your existence is being terminated by them at a profit to them and their financial masters.  But you don’t want to think about it.

California budget woes still no immigration halt

February 17, 2009

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/us/17cali.html?_r=2&hp

Even with thousands of layoffs of state workers, a credot downgrade, and missed services, there is no call to stop legal immigration.  This shows that

1) Ethnic cleansing of whites is the goal

2) Business and ethno interests want to use the whites while they are still around as a cash cow

3) But ultimately eliminate the whites so as to get richer now for the businessmen and as the real goal of non-whites and some white ethnics, e.g Ellis Island Wave.

4) That if whites want to survive they will have to organize for that purpose and act for that purpose.

Livni: Muslims Take half of Israel Obama: All

February 16, 2009

Tzipi Livni: “We need to give up half of the land of Israel.”  (To the worst scum on earth and in fact in history.)

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024875.php#respond

Tzipi Livni told Obama that the Muslims can have half of Israel

Obama: We will take all of Israel and all the West. So the Prophet has written.  Israel is a Muslim land. So is America.  So is Europe.  Bush said Islam is the religion of peace.  So it is written. So it shall be.

The Bush has made a useful beginning.  Bush Sr increased legal immigration to over a million a year in 1990.  My stimulus goes to my people, the immigrants.  The New People.  They are the true Americans.  They will get new mortgages for as little as they can pay.  We shall take all of Israel’s land just as we will take all of America’s homes, anyway we can.  I am The New Hussein (TNH).

White House says Tzipi’s statement is the beginning of Hussein’s Rule on Earth.  When Jerusalem is Muslim like the White House then shall Hussein’s Rule achieve its true purpose.  Inshallah.

Reasons to think Bruce Ivins didn’t produce anthrax

February 9, 2009

http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2009/01/critique-of-chemical-signature.html

The following is a follow on comment to comments posted at above link.

Search bacillus centrifuge

http://books.google.com/books?id=dsObMVGxcwEC&pg=PA218&lpg=PA218&dq=bacillus+centrifuge&source=web&ots=ehJIyG8aOp&sig=7fnFyxWIlR2lqH8Ag0Qs1W97khM&hl=en&ei=HDiQSZPFO9-Btwfbi9mYCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=41&ct=result

Page 218 has formulas relating to centrifuging.  Also it points out that bacteria have almost the same density as water so centrifuging takes time.

An older ref interesting to look at is

http://books.google.com/books?id=HmYSAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA406&lpg=PA406&dq=bacillus+centrifuge&source=web&ots=Z0XVlixSJB&sig=6h2Xn_HXVK1hARk1dViYvKT-LaQ&hl=en&ei=HDiQSZPFO9-Btwfbi9mYCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Bacchus

“In the two-year simulation, the facility was constructed, and production of anthrax-like bacterium was successfully completed.[2] The participating scientists were able to produce about one kilogram of highly-refined bacterial particles.[2]”

Probably simulant so they didn’t have to work in glove boxes.  That is very hand with using a 50 liter fermenter, centrifuging and then using a large lyophilizer to convert to powder.

1 kilogram over 2 years is about 10 grams per week.

According to the FBI, Ivins produced 5 to 10 grams in the weekend from Friday Sep 14 to Sun Sep 16.  That would be faster than the rate of project Bacchus.

Note the paper I cite above from dtic, if you estimate that for each liter you start you get 1/5 gram on average, then a 50 liter fermenter will produce 10 grams in a typical run, which typically is a week.  This shows the dtic paper and the Bacchus project results are consistent and both point to a run time longer than Ivins had.

A partial list of reasons to think Ivins didn’t do it:

(1) The time to grow is not long enough for weekend Sep 14 to Sep 16.

(2) Nor for the weekend Sep 28 to Sep 30.

(3) He would have had to run into weekdays.

(4) A fermenter big enough to do the job would not fit in his glove box so would sit on the floor or the counter in the suite.  This would produce comment.

(5) Subtilis contaminant didn’t match subtilis at Ft. Detrick.

(6) Silicon additive not in flask RMR1029.

(7) His glove box in Suite B3 was too small for the fermenter, centrifuge, or lyophilizer.  So he would have to work outside of it.  This would spread anthrax spores all over the lab.

(8) The extra matter in the envelopes in New York were dead anthrax cells showing he did a full growth run not sending growth media plus a few spores.

(9) The spore trail in Flordia is in the post offices and the AMI building.  This indicates the spores came through the envelopes.  There is no spore trail from NJ to Florida, indicating the Florida anthrax containing letters were mailed from Florida.

(10) Al Qaeda was in the area in Florida.

(11) The “hoax” letters from Florida came at the same time c. Sep 18 and c. Oct 5 and one was addressed to the same recipient Brokaw as from NJ.

(12) There were likely multiple letters to the AMI building and the J. Lo letter was probably one. It arrived Sep 19 which is too early to be delivered from NJ, so it was mailed from Florida.

(13) The ATTA heavy letters in the first letters were probably written by ATTA.  All the mailed letters were likely written by hijackers to keep them from being identified to any who remained to mail them. The letters don’t match Ivins handwriting.

(14) The FBI starting from 9/11 was under heavy pressure to not look at the links to Saudi Arabia, UAE and Pakistan.  This has continued despite the mounting evidence of the hostility of all 3 in multiple instances.

(15) The FBI has acted out frustration toward medical and biology professionals in many cases since the anthrax attacks.  Much of this is irrational antagonism.  This includes Hatfill, Berry, Thomas Butler, Steven Kurtz, and Ivins falls into the same pattern.

(16) All the FBI searches produced nothing.

(17) The emails of Ivins are more consistent with his feeling anxiety than that he had actually done something.  Someone who does something is more confident in tone.

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In the Mumbai attacks the Pakistani terrorists targeted whites preferably British or Americans.  They also targeted Jews.  The original 9/11 targets were the same ethnicities.  So were the anthrax letters.  The anthrax letters went to white British stock primarily targets.   The New York Post or others might be expected to get Jewish people.  The Florida target letters did actually get Brits in the US as did the 9/11 strike on the WTC.

The FBI in going after medical and biology people in the US has ended up going after the same ethnic groups.  Because they are not allowed to go after Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and UAE, they end up transfering their frustration to the same targets as Pakistan et all, British stock and Jewish people.

Mohammed Mosaddeq was a Saddam Hussein

February 9, 2009

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/would-it-kill-us-to-apolo_b_163957.html

“Would It Kill Us to Apologize to Iran for the Coup?”

Robert Naiman
Posted February 4, 2009 | 01:34 PM

http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/about/r_naiman.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Mossadegh#Prime_Minister

If the US and Britain and France had removed Hitler from power in Germany in 1934 we would be hearing from the Left that we should apologize.

Even the PC Wikipedia if you read the details admits that Mossadegh was a 3rd world strong man bent on power and willing to turn to the Soviet Union to get help.

Quote from Wiki

Mosaddeq then moved to dissolve parliament, in spite of the Constitutional provision which gave the Shah sole authority to dissolve Parliament. After taking the additional step of abolishing the Constitutional guarantee of a “secret ballot”, Mosaddeq’s victory in the national plebiscite was assured. The electorate was forced into a non-secret ballot and Mosaddeq won 99.93% of the vote. The tactics employed by Mosaddeq to remain in power were dictatorial in their result, playing into the hands of those who wished to see him removed.[citation needed] Parliament was suspended indefinitely, and Mosaddeq’s emergency powers were extended.

“The tactics employed by Mosaddeq to remain in power were dictatorial in their result, playing into the hands of those who wished to see him removed.

What weasel breath.

If we had removed Hitler in 1934, they would be saying that Hitler’s actions played into the hands of the wily British, simpleton Americans and emotionally overwrought French once again.   The calls for us to apologize for overthrowing Hitler would be coming from everywhere on the Left.

Mosaddeq was a power hungry 3rd world strong man who wanted total power.  He took away the secret ballot and the vote was over 99 percent for him.  That’s fraud and fear.   Mosaddeq was an evil dictator in the mold of Stalin, Hitler and Saddam.  Stopping him was something Iran should thank us for.

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“Would It Kill Us to Apologize to Iran for the Coup?”

Yes.  Every time we betray the truth it kills us inside.

UK Muslim nurses pray for patients to die

February 2, 2009

(Spoof?)  The UK nursing authority gave permission to Muslim nurses to pray for patients to die, if Jewish or Christian.

Spokes-PC:  Its their religion you see.  Muslims want Christians and Jews to die.  We have special prayer rooms for Muslim nurses to pray for patients to die.  Its bigotry to stop it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1134042/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-British-police-running-Muslim-demonstrators-Christian-nurse-facing-sack-offering-pray-patient–way-society-dies.html

Q: Why was Caroline Petrie fired for praying for patients to live?

Authority:  Because it offends Muslims.   Jesus is not the Son of God in Islam.  So its offensive for her to pray.  Especially for Christians and Jews to live.  That is an offense to God to pray for them to live, because God can’t listen to Christian or Jewish prayers under Islam.  Do you see?

http://uppompeii1.uppompeii.com/2009/02/02/nurse-suspended-for-praying-for-a-patients-recovery.aspx

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/020107.php

Muslim nurses won’t sterilize themselves in UK hospitals because of their beliefs.  See above link.  This puts patient lives at risk.

http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=UK+Muslim+nurses+pray+for+patients+to+die&btnG=Google+Search

The above is satire or spoof.  This is directed within the US and is intended to support a petition to Congress to stop Muslim immigration as Congressman Virgil Goode said we should.  God bless Goode.  All other disclaimers apply.

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