Pakistan caught harboring Osama bin Laden

May 2, 2011

The house bin Laden was living in was obviously one the Pakistan ISI knew about.

A comment I posted at Vanishing American:

The real winner is Pakistan which eliminated a witness to their involvement in 9/11. Pakistan was under sanctions for its nuclear program which were having great effect. If Pakistan was involved in 9/11, it was to get those sanctions lifted. It is not clear that we are better off from this and whether this was a hit on bin Laden that was convenient for Pakistan’s leaders to get rid of a witness.

As long as bin Laden was alive he could tell other people in Pakistan of the involvement of Pakistan’s government. That was a risk to them. He could make a video saying Pakistan’s government was involved and give details.

Pakistan would want the Crusaders to kill bin Laden. That way they avoid his blood which would surely lead to reprisals against those involved up to the top. At the same time, they get credit with the Crusaders and money. They get money for 9/11 once again.

http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-dead.html

Search Pakistan sanctions unjust to find articles about the sanctions on Pakistan before 9/11.

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/category/pakistan-anthrax/

Hypothesis: Pakistan. Timeline: Week before 9/11/2001, the head of Pakistan’s ISI came to the US and met with US leaders to try to get sanctions lifted. That failed. He gave the go-ahead for 9/11 to al Qaeda in the DC area.

Then he met with US intensively following few days. US agreed to life sanctions and pay money to Pakistan. He then gave the signal to the anthrax team to mail the anthrax on 9/18. Reason? 9/11 was to turn on US concern for al Qaeda and that they needed Pakistan’s help to get to Afghanistan.

Once they got the money they sent out anthrax made from spores from a US lab to turn US attention to domestic terrorism. Once they got the money they wanted to turn attention away from Pakistan. It basically worked.

Before 9/11, there was talk the US might lift sanctions on India but not Pakistan. Pakistan already considered the sanctions unjust. The head of ISI was a fundamentalist and unjust in that context means its not just ok to kill but whatever it takes is required to do to remove the unjust situation.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2001/09/07/edmansoor_ed3_.php

This link now switches to

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/07/opinion/07iht-edmansoor_ed3_.html


Pakistan:Leaving U.S. Sanctions in Place Would Be Grave
By Mansoor Ijaz, R. James Woolsey and James A. Abrahamson
Published: FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 7, 2001

NEW YORK: The Bush administration is preparing to lift punitive sanctions imposed on India for its nuclear program. But clearing this hurdle to bolster political, economic and military ties with India while maintaining even sterner sanctions on Pakistan would be seen throughout the Middle East as discrimination of the first order. Islamabad would be pushed in dangerous directions, particularly toward increased reliance on its nuclear and missile programs.

Further crippling a weak Pakistan, perhaps to the point of state failure, would invite its myriad problems to spill over into other countries. Islamic militancy, arms and drug trafficking and religiously motivated sectarian violence could have devastating consequences for India’s economic prospects and cause trouble in important Islamic oil-producing countries. Risks to U.S. forces and interests in the Middle East would be a virtual certainty.

Also

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-27095601.html

Search Pakistan “sanctions lifted” 2001, and other similar searches. Toss in nuclear, IMF, etc. Pakistan’s central banker on 9/11 later wrote a book and said Pakistan was unable to continue w/o lifting sanctions. That meant Pakistan would have to give up its nuclear program but India wouldn’t. That would be “unjust”.

http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

has info on Pakistan and 9/11. Can look up meetings ISI and US after 9/11 before 9/18. Also has an anthrax timeline.

http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=2001anthraxattacks

By Sep 23 2001 Sanctions lifted in the news.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1558860.stm

Pakistan knew that before 9/18/01. There were also anthrax incidents in Pakistan in 2001 after 9/11. Pakistan ISI was capable of getting anthrax from a US source and then producing it. Only Pakistan and the others involved in 9/11 could plan it all out in advance and be ready to mail on 9/18 from NJ and from Florida the fake letters to same people, e.g. NBC.

Only Pakistan had a motive to divert attention from 9/11 on 9/18 because then they had the money and sanctions lifted deal. Means, motive, opportunity, timing. It all fits Pakistan.

Pakistan also has the MO before 9/11 and up to now. In 1999, Musharraf invaded Kargil and said Pakistani troops were terrorists. India won and wanted to return the bodies of Pakistan soldiers, but Pakistan still said they were terrorists and wouldn’t take the bodies of their own soldiers.

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Ishrat Husain the central banker of Pakistan wrote a book after 9/11 saying the sanctions were having a major impact on Pakistan. Later after I quoted this on Internet sites he started saying they had little effect.

http://ishrathusain.iba.edu.pk/

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This is just a hypothesis. Was someone surgically altered to look like bin Laden and put in this compound? It seems like this compound was built up for the US to find it. The US killed him, did id based on photos and then buried his body at sea. Was that agreed before hand with Pakistan? Who ordered that? In any case, there seems the chance of this being staged bait for the US to take.

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Pakistan sanctions lifted after 9/11 by Sep 22, 2001

Discussion before lifting sanctions.

http://cns.miis.edu/archive/wtc01/pak.htm

Dilemmas for Pakistan

The dilemma for Pakistan is that, on the one hand, a wounded superpower is seeking retribution against the perpetrators of the deadliest attack against U.S. territory. On the other hand, however, domestic religious forces could destabilize the country in protest–if Pakistan’s bases are used to strike against Bin Laden–as they consider him a soldier of Islam. The decision for General Musharraf is further compounded by crippling sanctions imposed against Pakistan by the United States for its nuclear weapon program and the lack of a democratic government. Secretary Powell noted, in this context, on Thursday, “They’re sanctioned up to the eyeballs and they don’t have that much aid now.”[5] But the United States is considering the easing of sanctions in return for Pakistan’s cooperation in apprehending Usama Bin Laden.

Pakistan can benefit economically by withdrawing its support for the Taliban and helping to capture Bin Laden. But it can lose in a big way domestically, if it accedes to U.S. pressure as powerful Islamist groups in Pakistan consider Bin Laden a hero and could destabilize Pakistan.

http://www.atimes.com/ind-pak/CH22Df02.html

Sources say that Pakistan has not as yet rejected the request to be used as a base, but that the US has two “arguments” to strengthen its case. The first is the large amount of assistance Islamabad receives from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to prop up its ailing economy, and the sanctions the US imposed on the country in the wake of its nuclear tests in May 1998.

Pakistan needs to satisfy the IMF about the state of the economy so that the existing $596 million Standby Arrangement can be replaced with a $2 billion to $2.5 billion new funding line in the shape of a Poverty Reduction Growth Facility before the end of this year.

US sanctions against Pakistan restrict the provision of credits, military sales, economic assistance and loans to the government. The October 1999 overthrow of the democratically elected Nawaz Sharif government triggered an additional layer of sanctions under Section 508 of the Foreign Appropriations Act, which include restrictions on foreign military financing and economic assistance. Presently, US government assistance to Pakistan is limited mainly to refugee and counter-narcotics assistance.

In Pakistan, there is also a very strong lobby within the army not to assist in any US moves to apprehend bin Laden. These include Rawalpindi Corps Commander Lieutenant-General Jamshed Gulzar, one of the coup leaders of October 12, 1999, Lahore Corps Commander Lieutenant-General Aziz Khan and Deputy Chief of Army Staff Lieutenant-General Muzzaffar Usmani. This was the strong army backing that enabled a Pakistani religious scholar, Mufti Nizamuddin Shamzai, who is well respected among the Taliban leadership, to put pressure on Pakistan’s Minister of the Interior, a retired lieutenant-general, Moinuddin Haider, not to deport any more Arabs from Pakistan.

US lifts sanctions Sep 23 2001

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1558860.stm

Sunday, 23 September, 2001, 13:17 GMT 14:17 UK
US lifts India and Pakistan sanctions

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/sep/24/pakistan.afghanistan

Sanctions lifted as US rewards Pakistan

Build-up: Bin Laden ‘missing’, claim Taliban

Special report: terrorism crisis
Special report: Pakistan

* Luke Harding and Rory McCarthy in Islamabad
* The Guardian, Monday 24 September 2001 02.30 BST
* Article history

Searches: bin Laden Pakistan sanctions, Pakistan Sanctions James Woolsey,
Pakistan Sanctions iht Woolsey

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/crs/93-10-20.htm

Congressional Research Service: Issue Brief
October 20, 1993
-ti- Chinese Missile and Nuclear Proliferation: Issues for Congress
By Shirley A. Kan, Foreign Affairs and National Defense Division
CONTENTS:
SUMMARY
MOST RECENT DEVELOPMENTS
BACKGROUND AND ANALYSIS
Why Target China?
Chinese Missile and Nuclear Proliferation
Possible Motives and Policy Constraints
Missile and Related Technology Transfers
CSS-2 IRBM
M-9 SRBM
M-11 SRBM
Nuclear Technology Transfers
Pakistan
Algeria
Iran
Iraq
Syria

http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/%5Cpapers%5Cpaper13.html

PAKISTAN’s MISSILE DEALS WITH NORTH KOREA
An Analysis

Pakistan’s clandestine missile transactions with China have been continuously monitored by the US intelligence community and by the International Relations and Intelligence Oversight Committees of the two Houses of the US Congress. However, the same cannot be said of Pakistan’s clandestine missile transactions with North Korea despite the serious threat posed by these transactions, in the short and medium terms, to the security of not only India, but also Japan and South Korea and, in the long term, to the security of Hawaii and Alaska in the U.S.

B.RAMAN 22-11-98

(The writer is Additional Secretary (Retd), Cabinet Secretariat, Govt. of India, and presently Director, Institute For Topical Studies, Chennai.)

Why was not bin Laden’s body brought back to be identified by relatives? Why were they in such a hurry to get bin Laden’s family out of the US after 9/11?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Laden_family

At least 13 relatives of Osama bin Laden, accompanied by bodyguards and associates, left the United States on a chartered flight with Ryan International Airlines (Ryan International Flight 441) [12] eight days after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, according to a passenger manifest released on July 21, 2004.[13] The passenger list was made public by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), who obtained the manifest from officials at Boston’s Logan International Airport. None of the flights, domestic or international, took place before the reopening of national airspace on the morning of Sept. 13 and the 9/11 Commission found “no evidence of a political intervention”.[14]

Among the passengers with the bin Laden surname were Omar Awad bin Laden, who had lived with OBL nephew Abdallah Awad bin Laden who was involved in forming the U.S. branch of the World Assembly of Muslim Youth in Alexandria, and Shafig bin Laden, a half brother of OBL who was reportedly attending the annual investor conference of the Carlyle Group.[13]

Also on board was Akberali Moawalla, an official with the investment company run by Yeslam bin Ladin, another of Osama bin Laden’s half brothers. Records show that a passenger, Kholoud Kurdi, lived in Northern Virginia with a bin Laden relative.[13]

They could have found many people in Saudi Arabia who knew him in life to identify the body and not rely on photos for that.

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Only Barack Hussein Obama would invade Pakistan to give bin Laden an Islamic burial at sea. This is farce. Each iteration they push us further and we are supposed to accept it.

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Photo and map of OBL compound.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/05/01/justice-has-been-done-obl-compound/

“Lat/lon 34.187663° 73.242617° See it on Google Maps”

Releasing Obama’s birth certificate last week makes it hard for anyone to dispute that it was really Osama that they got this week.

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