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John Derbyshire: Obligation to fight back and win

April 20, 2007

We have an obligation to fight back as individuals, even if we as individuals can’t win. We also have an obligation to not sacrifice ourselves in vain.

In “Spirit of Self-Defense” John Derbyshire says the victims should have fought back. In a Classroom WIth a Gunman [John Podhoretz] disagrees and does so in a disagreeable way to Derbyshire.

Those who wish to destroy us see us as weak. They attack us because they expect to win. Bin Laden saw as weak and unwilling to take casualties. We saw those as cases of not fighting in vain.

Which is which? Always fighting is irrational. We are taught not to fight those in power, by those in power. In the case of liberals, they call us bigots and racists to have power over us. We have an obligation to fight back every time we are called a bigot or racist or others do for standing up for our rights.

When Paul Begala called Virgil Goode a bigot and an idiot for fighting back against Begala for bringing in Muslim immigrants to kill us in 9-11, Bay Buchanan was silenced. This was done by Begala in front of her on Wolf Blitzer. Begala wanted to silence her because Begala called her brother Pat Buchanan a bigot in 1992 to get Clinton elected and get money, fame, and power for Begala. Begala didn’t want her to expose that after the 1993 WTC attack by a Muslim immigrant, Clinton and Begala did nothing to avoid admitting that Buchanan was right, we should stop immigration, legal immigration.

Liberals like Begala see us as weak. Begala was a bully towards Bay Buchanan on CNN. Moreover, it was intentional. We need to recognize that what is going on now in the wake of the Virginia Tech ethnic cleansing incident is the same bullying as went on after 9-11 and is still going on.

The 9-11 families were silenced as long as possible by this bullying. We are silenced on airplanes to accept being taken hijacked or killed rather than challenge the liberal faith in man, that all men are good, and you can’t tell by looking who is hostile to you.

This is the purpose of dry-runs on airplanes. To condition us to accept Muslim men acting badly and do nothing. We are being taught not to fight back as individuals or not to fight back as a society.

The Persian painting of women being hung by their tongues that Irshad Manji told us of is one that those in power always have in their mind. Begala saw in his mind the equivalent of Bay Buchanan hanging by her tongue on Wolf Blitzer’s show. If we are silenced, we will surely hang.

This is why Norman Podheretz is doing a Begala attack on John Derbyshire. This is part of ethnic cleansing, silence the victims. What we are seeing now is ethnic cleansing denial, just like after 9-11. 9-11 was ethnic cleansing by immigrant males to clear the way for immigration. That is what the Virginia Tech shootings were. We are being told to be silent by those responsible for the murders, the ones who wouldn’t stop immigration after the WTC 1993 attacks.

==Are we in a civil war and what is a civil war?

Do these attacks show that we were in a civil war already? The Latino gangs attacking blacks in LA is evidence of something very like a dictionary definition of civil war. Brentin Mock SPLC:

“This attitude is pretty pervasive throughout all the [Latino] gangs,” says Tim Brown, a Los Angeles County probation supervisor. “As long as [street] gangs are heavily influenced by the prison gangs, particularly the Mexican Mafia, racism is just part and parcel of why they come into being and why they continue to exist.”

Last fall, four members of the Avenues were convicted of federal charges for conspiring to deprive blacks of their civil rights in Highland Park. … But the problem is far more widespread than a single gang in a single neighborhood.

Random, racially motivated crimes have been committed across the 88 cities of Los Angeles County by the members of Latino gangs, including the Pomona 12 in the city of Pomona, the 18th Street Gang in southwest Los Angeles, the Toonerville gang in northeast L.A., and the Varrio Tortilla Flats in Compton. But with the Mexican Mafia’s shadow looming over Los Angeles, it may be a long time before the rapidly growing number of streets claimed by Latino gangs are safe for blacks, if ever.
“It’s not just Highland Park. It’s almost anywhere in L.A. that you could find yourself in a difficult position [as a black person],” says Lewis, the LAPD probation officer. “All blacks are on green light no matter where.” end quote SPLC

“All blacks are on green light no matter where.” Is that the definition of civil war? If its not, its something very close and just as bad to those being killed. Technical definitions of civil war have to avoid the definition where civilians are killed. Because that happens in many wars.

A broad naive definition of civil war is a war where civilians kill or are killed. However, governments don’t like this definition because it would implicate them, so in international law they have much more restrictive definitions, which end up making it a conflict between two or more quasi-governments.

Another definition, still naive, is that its where civilians kill civilians. Governments don’t like this definition, because they don’t want to really admit that people count in war. So the definitions drafted by government don’t count civilians killing civilians as civil war.

The definition of civil war at Wiki analyzes definitions made by governments in international law. These in effect say only governments fight wars and its against other governments, and anything governments do to people or that people do to people is not counted by governments as civil war.

Many of these definitions were made just after WWII, and the US didn’t want a definition of civil war that sounded like bombing civilians was included and the Soviets didn’t want their mass ethnic cleansing at their “here” and their “there” to be counted.

WWII involved partisans, exterminations, many forms of ethnic cleansing, etc. Distinguishing what happened in WWII from civil war is legal drafting. If one looks at the wiki article, one can see the tortured definitions they produce to avoid WWII being included as civil war.

If you define civil war in terms of acts from a bottom up point of view, then WWII would be included. Every bad act with every combination of civilian or military doer or recipient of harm or violence happened in WWII. To avoid WWII being a civil war, they say, in effect, if two or more separate governments are involved, it doesn’t matter what happens, its not civil war. But if you started from the bottom up, and said if any of the combinations of acts and actors happens then its a civil war, then WWII would qualify.

From a bottom up perspective, “All blacks are on green light no matter where” is civil war. From the perspective of the person on the streets: “Random, racially motivated crimes have been committed across the 88 cities of Los Angeles County by the members of Latino gangs” is civil war.

“But with the Mexican Mafia’s shadow looming over Los Angeles, it may be a long time before the rapidly growing number of streets claimed by Latino gangs are safe for blacks, if ever. …It’s not just Highland Park. It’s almost anywhere in L.A. that you could find yourself in a difficult position [as a black person],”

This sounds like the same as Baghdad. No go zones are a definition of civil war. Parts of cities reserved for one group sounds like one definition of civil war. Those entering the territory of another group are subject to death by anyone in that territory sounds like a bottom up definition of civil war. Even Sherman in his March to the Sea only destroyed property, he didn’t kill any person he found.

==Return to the Derbyshire Podhoretz etc. discussion
Podhoretz is a regular to apply lefist ways to silence everyone on immigration and just take it, and take the crime and violence and not talk back to Podhoretz or Bush. “The Inability to Stomach Disagreement” by Podhoretz. This is the neocon-left calling its victims intolerant, intolerant to the pain dished out to them by leftist immigration the people never wanted. “This inability to stomach disagreement on a hot-button issue should be troubling to anyone and everyone who has found an intellectual home on the Right” Sounds like his own intolerance to Derbyshire today on the Va Tech ethnic cleansing.

Search “John Podhoretz” immigration

JPod Weighs In On The Question Of Fighting Back…
[James Fulford]
Blaming the Victims … Because They’re Total Wussesby Ana Marie Cox is at Time. It is in fact, blaming the victims, us, we are the victims of Time’s immigration.

We are being ethnically cleansed by immigration. Just as Christians and Jews were ethnically cleansed under the Ottoman Empire and in Muslim states, we are being ethnically cleansed now. Just as Christians and Jews were made to be silent under Islam, so we are made to be silent under the Left. The attacks on Derbyshire are part of that. We do have an obligation to fight back against those who are responsible, those who are silencing us now, and who are to blame for the WTC 93 attack, the WTC and Pentagon 2001 attack, and this attack.

Its all those who call Lou Dobbs the nightly nativist and who attack Vdare or Jihad Watch or the rest. Its those who are speaking up. The PC Left wants to hang them by their tongues just like in the Persian painting of women being hung from their tongues.

The students might as well have been dressed in burkhas. The PC left are dressing us in burkhas now. The flying imams were doing that. We have to rip this medieval rag off, as Oriana Fallaci said to Khomeini’s face. Bay Buchanan was taken by surprise by Paul Begala when Begala called Virgil Goode a bigot and an idiot. We have to tell the PC Left to their face, they are responsible for 9-11, they are responsible for the Va Tech killings, and they are responsible for Latino gangs killing blacks in LA in ethnic cleansing. They are responsible and we are fighting back and talking back.

They can call us bigots all day, we aren’t being silenced while we are being killed. Its not the students the PC Left say must be silent while they are lined up and shot, its us. We were lined up to take it on the airplanes on 9-11. The passengers on one flight fought back, and the PC Left have created a Red Crescent of Embrace Memorial with stone for the hijackers.

We must fight back. We must not be lined up to be shot by the PC Left. Begala was lining us up to be shot by calling Virgil Goode a bigot and an idiot. We have to fight back by talking back. The Virginia Tech attack was ethnic cleansing by the Left. The gunman’s motives don’t matter, what matters are the motives of the left. That is why they must silence us. That is why they must silence John Derbyshire, Bay Buchanan, Pat Buchanan, Virgil Goode and all of us. If we want to live we have to stop letting Begala line us up to be shot and speak up.

Speak up for our lives, because we don’t have much time left. Right now:

John Derbyshire is on green light to the PC Left including leftists in neocon clothing.

All blacks in LA are on green light to Latino gangs.

All Muslim women are on green light to Muslim men.

All non-Muslims are on green light to all Muslims, here and there, in Muslim lands and our lands, in the House of Peace and the House of War.

All those who speak up about immigration are on green light to the PC Left.

All Americans are on green light to be killed in terrorism. Virginia Tech shootings were terrorism.

All those in the West are being ethnically cleansed by immigration. We are all on green light from the PC Left.

The Left put the students at Va Tech on green light to be shot by Ismail Ax. They created the climate of fear in the police to stop Ax. The left put us on green light after the WTC 1993 attack. Bush and Clinton both say we will die for sure from their immigrants, both now and in the future. When they say that, they are putting us on green light. That is what happened at Va Tech, we were on green light.

That is what they said at the Va Tech ceremony. They said we were on green light. All 4 faiths represented said that Americans were on green light and that God put us on green light. They said God put the students killed on Green Light. They said the Green Light to kill Americans comes from God.

Immigration as a sustained process mathematically implies the genetic extinction of every gene that comes here and every gene that is here at any point in time, see the Immigration Vanishing Survival Theorem. This is omnia cleansing, the cleansing of all. Its a form of suicide more than physical killing of others. The drop in fertility from 1820 to now during immigration periods shows this, see the U inverted U discussion. The establishment is blessing this mathematical omnia cleansing as coming from God or PC liberalism. But the result is the same. To fight back against this, we must stop all legal immigration including asylum and family reunification and not legalize the illegal immigrant.

If we go back to the definition of civil war and think in terms of agency and effects we can come up with a broader set of criteria for civil war. A process that results in the substantial cleansing of a substantial portion of the gene pool by the action of the society as a whole and its parts is a form of civil war. The mathematical implications of sustained immigration make this civil war in this sense. The drop in fertility through lower wages and greater job insecurity has already happened, just as the theorem says.


1992 Democrat Coalition calls Virgil Goode Bigot

December 22, 2006

On 9-11, as the smoke rose up, the MSM started calling those who had or might call on stopping immigration bigots. Why? Because Pat Buchanan said stop immigration in 1992 and they called him a bigot as an election ploy to get Clinton elected. They did the same in 1996 and in 2000 for Gore.

Those who were for immigration after the WTC 1993 attacks and before the WTC and Pentagon 2001 attacks know they can’t come out and directly call the 9-11 families, bigots. But they want to make the 9-11 families afraid to speak up too much to stop immigration.

So instead of calling the 9-11 families bigots, they call Virgil Goode a bigot. Or they might call Pat Buchanan or Lou Dobbs bigots. Paul Begala called Virgil Goode a bigot to frighten Bay Bucahan from telling that Begala was part of the 1992 Clinton election team that played with American lives by calling Buchanan a bigot. They won the 1992 election and on 9-11, almost 3000 people died from the immigration that Begala and Clinton said Buchanan was a bigot to want to stop.

Now we are going to hear everyone who was part of the 1992 coalition to elect Clinton call Virgil Goode a bigot. Why? Because they all have 9-11 guilt.

9-11 was a Muslim act of mass murder on Christians and Jews on American soil. Those who get fund raising from these sources, or want their votes have to call the truth tellers like Virgil Goode bigots to keep their supporters, donors, or voters from asking questions.

My security code is square.


“Surely, on this holiday eve, there is one Republican who wants to speak publicly for goodwill towards others, even if they’re Muslim.”

Surely, on this holiday eve, there is one Democrat who wants to speak publicly for goodwill towards others, even if they tell the truth about 9-11, the hijackers shouldn’t have been here, we should have stopped immigration after:

WTC 1993 Attack

1996 Bojinka Plot

1998 Embassy bombings

1998 bin Laden Fatwa

2000 Cole Attack

Aug 6 2001 PDB

9-11 2001

My security code is mine.


Good post Frog Daddy.

Some think the flying imams are meant to test our security and to make us give it up, and even make it illegal. Some think this or other incidents were a dry run.

Before 9-11, the schools where the hijackers trained were afraid to be called bigots if they turned them in. Some did anyhow, but the FBI had the same problem, especially at the top.

“hopefully we won’t learn the hard way.” that those who call us bigots were against us in the first place.

Those who call our champions bigots were against us in the first place.

Those who call truth tellers bigots were against us in the first place, and this is the truth they don’t want told the most.



I for one am sick of your racist crap, Old Atlantic. Would you suggest deporting everyone who came? Since when? Ellison dates his roots to the 18th century, is that far enough back for you? And Merry Christmas.
Posted by: global citizen

end quote

Virgil Goode brought up the issue of stopping immigration. Why do you conflate stopping immigration with deporting? Because to stop it is to admit it was wrong. That is why you switch from stopping immigration to deporting. In your heart, you know they shouldn’t have been allowed in.

Crying bigot is the last refuge of those who are wrong.

My security code is shoe. We have to take off our shoes because of the shoe bomber, who was, gasp, Muslim. He thought he was acting on the basis of Islam, and Islamic courts world wide tend to support that view. We have to decide if we want to stop things getting worse before America is Lebanon or wait until its Iraq.

How tired of racism will you be when America is in civil war like France already is? The racism that shoots you, bombs you, shoe bombs you, takes you hostage, asks for ransom, doesn’t let you put Cartoons where you want, is the real bigotry. They wrote it down in a book, its called the Koran. It means what it says. Muslims believe in the Koran, not you.


The Koran is written as war propaganda. It was written in 656 AD. It commands Muslims to fight non-Muslims and conquer the world. That’s what it says.

Religious courts in Islamic countries come to similar rulings on stoning and lashing women, etc.

Muslims believe in the Koran as written by God, every word. In every Muslim land, Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc. have been forced out or killed. That is going on today in Lebanon and Bethlehem.

Muslims don’t believe in you, they believe in the Koran. Muslims believe in Islam, its not what you believe in.

Liberals have 9-11 guilt. If they stop immigration now, they admit it was wrong after the WTC 93 attacks. They have to admit Pat Buchanan was right in 1992.

Liberals hate their victims, and they can’t admit the truth, which is what stopping immigration is, an admission of truth.

My security code is loss.


bin Laden’s 1998 Fatwa:

begin quote

Nothing is more sacred than belief except repulsing an enemy who is attacking religion and life.”

On that basis, and in compliance with Allah’s order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims: The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies — civilians and military — is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it,

end quote

Islam as a unitary entity, religious-political-military attacked the Christian Jewish Western Superpower in 633 AD. The Koran was written in 656 AD from recollections of warriors. It was written down starting in 633 AD because some Muslim holy warriors died in the 633 AD battle of Yamama initiated by Islam as a unitary entity against the Eastern Roman Empire, the Western superpower.

bin Laden’s fatwa is the same thing. His attack on 2001 is the same thing. We responded by sending armies to Afghanistan and then Iraq. It makes no sense to send armies there and not stop their immigration here. We stopped immigration after Pearl Harbor.

What’s the difference? 9-11 was an attack from within by immigrants, so to stop immigration now is an admission that Pat Buchanan was right in 1992 to want to stop immigration.

My security code is profit.


Bethlehem 85 percent Christian 1948, 12 percent 2006. There is violence against Christians in Bethlehem today, which is done by Muslims.

Most Muslims want Sharia law in Palestine. University of Jordan did a survey of views in Palestine and other Muslim lands, and most Muslims i all those countries want Sharia law as a source or the sole source of law.

Christians in Morocco are persecuted. Its in every Muslim country.

Americans were taking hostage by North African countries c. 1800, c. 1900, and have been taken hostage or attacked multiple times by other Muslim countries. From 1500 to the French occupation in the 19th century, North Africa took over 1 million Christians slaves in raiding parties on the seas, Europe and North America.

One act of kindness or even many doesn’t make up for an eventual genocide or forcing out. Muslims want Sharia law, they want Islam, that’s why they are Muslims.

Real bigots are liberals who say that Muslims believe what they believe in.

Letting Muslims in the West has corresponded to persecution of Christians and Jews and Hindus in Muslim lands. It makes them think they are winning. Qaddafi said in 50 years Europe will be Muslim. Ergo, Muslims don’t have to change, i.e. become liberals.

Muslims aren’t liberals. You hate Protestants so much, you can’t see that. They take your comments as the sign of weakness.

Also your argument on sign of weakness doesn’t make sense. If they thought like you do, they would stop persecuting Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Jews, etc. in their lands, which they don’t.

My security code is brain.


Cousin X,

Bad acts by others don’t make it desirable to have bad acts inflicted on us. All the bad acts in history by Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc. won’t make me want to be a victim of Muslim violence.

You are a very sad, ignorant, man.
Use your security code.
Posted by: ENZA

Can you be more specific? How ignorant? Why do you want Muslim immigration? What benefit does it have? Immigration has a substitution effect, all immigation does. This makes it undesirable, period.

My security code is wind, as in Wind and the Lion, when Americans were held hostage in Morocco, c. 1900.


sami, I agree with many of your comments, but the issue is continued Muslim immigration. I believe all immigration should stop, with no amnesties or guest worker.

It isn’t beating on immigrants to stop future immigration. This is one of the logical fallacies that permeates the pro immigration arguments.

Sustained immigration causes genetic survival ratios to asymptote to zero. Search on “Unpleasant Immigration Arithmetic”. Thus its irrational. This is true for each annual cohort of immigrants, not just those here.


“And all the bad acts in history by Muslims won’t make me want to be a victim of Fundamentalist / Right Wing violence.”

The only fundamentlist violence going on is that being done by Muslims in the US, France, UK, Lebanon, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan, etc.


Realist, I agree with your remarks up to your final sentence. See link on this post for comments on Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

BTW Complete 9-11 Timeline needs money and is exposing Bush links to Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.  They have a matching grant but are behind in meeting it.

My security code is judge.

Paul Begala should apologize to Bay Buchanan, Pat and Virgil Goode

December 21, 2006

It isn’t right for people on TV to call Goode a bigot or ask others to while Danish Cartoonists are in hiding and CNN won’t put the Danish Cartoons on its webpage.

Only those who have spoken out for Rushdie, the Danish Cartoonists, and all the rest in hiding have the moral right to call Goode a bigot.

Its wrong to put people on TV on the spot to denounce Goode’s comments when the same TV people or their station is afraid of Muslim death threats.

This happened to Bay Buchanan on CNN with Begala and Wolf Blitzer.

Begala was in the Clinton administration. Clinton let the 19 hijackers in.

The schools where they trained were in some cases afraid to turn in the hijackers for fear of being called bigot.

After 9-11, Bush and Mineta praised Islam and said no profiling. But secretly they knew they had been given warnings. They used the bigot charge to keep people from asking questions.

Begala and the Clinton team let in the 19 hijackers. They called Pat Buchanan a bigot in 1996 for wanting to stop the immigration.

Its wrong for Begala to be part of the Clinton team that let in the hijackers, let them train at schools, ignored the warnings, called Pat Buchanan names, and then pressure his sister on CNN to denounce Goode.

Begala should apologize for calling Pat Buchanan a bigot in 1996 when Pat wanted to stop immigration. Begala did the same thing as Mineta and Bush after 9-11, to cover up his own guilt for calling Pat Buchanan a bigot in 1996, he threatened his sister Bay with the same thing if she wanted to stop immigration.

How many times must we be attacked and have the people like Begala responsible for letting them in get away with calling Pat Buchanan a bigot for wanting to stop them?

Why is Begala a moral person for letting the 19 hijackers in, but Pat Buchanan is a bigot for warning to keep them out?

This is the same cover up scheme that Mineta, Bush, C. Rice, Peter Jennings, Clinton, Begala, etc. said after 9-11 and on the day of 9-11. The smoke was rising up as they started calling people who wanted to stop immigration bigots.

The 9-11 families were the targets of the MSM on 9-11. The President in his Religion of Peace speech was threatening to call the 9-11 families bigots if they asked for Muslim immigration to stop.

This is so 1938 its unbelievable.

Begala should apologize to the 9-11 families for failing them like Richard Clarke did. Begala shouldn’t call anyone a bigot while he has this guilt. Begala should apologize to Pat Buchanan for Buchanan being called a bigot in 1996. The Clinton team did that deliberately in 1996. They traded almost 3000 lives on 9-11 to win re-election in 1996. They need to apologize to the 9-11 families for that election and for calling Pat Buchanan a bigot in 1996.

CNN should apologize to Bay Buchanan, the 9-11 families, the Danish Cartoonists and the American people for how they have covered this issue from 1993 to present.

==The Paul Begala incident on the Wolf Blitzer show

PAUL BEGALA, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: You know, well, first, just call a spade a spade. Virgil Goode is a bigot and he’s an idiot. Let’s hope he clears that up when he has his press conference, because lots of people misspeak.

BLITZER: Let me read once again for you, Bay, and for our viewers precisely what is in this letter that he wrote: “If American citizens don’t wake up and adopt the Virgil Goode position on immigration, there will likely be many more Muslims elected to office and demanding the use of the Koran.”

(You have to see the video to see how she was put on the spot throughout this question and the subsequent discussion.)

BAY BUCHANAN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: I can understand what he is trying to say. I think that his choice of words were outrageous. I think it’s a clear mistake that he made, to suggest that we should be worried that Keith Ellison is a — happens to be a Muslim, and is elected now to the Congress, wants to use a Koran.

I don’t see any problem with any of the above, none whatsoever. I think what he — what he is trying to say, which I think is a legitimate point, is that, as a nation, we should get control of our immigration laws, and make certain we have a national debate as to what is our best interests as to who is coming and who we are inviting into this country.

And that is a legitimate national debate, not what we’re doing today. But I think this is something not quite that. And I think this is a mistake.

When she says “This is a mistake” she means what is being done to her. This is the main clue from the transcript of just how much she felt set up and put in a position by Begala.

And, yes, Virginia, it was a mistake, for Begala to do this, possibly planned out in advance, knowing Bay Buchanan would feel vulnerable because Pat Buchanan was attacked the same way as Virgil Goode was just then by Paul Begala during the 1996 Clinton Dole campaign. It was a mistake for Wolf Blitzer to let it happen. This isn’t the first time Begala and Blitzer have been on TV or been through one of these.

Then they talked about Sandy Berger. Was Begala trying to so upset Bay Buchanan that Begala could skate the truth about the new information about the Berger incident with Bay Buchanan so shaken up she couldn’t nail him on it?

Is there still a cover up going on by the Clinton administration about anything that happened between Jan 20, 1993 and Jan 20,2001?


No TV network, no newspaper, no blog page has a moral right to call Goode or Pat Buchanan bigots unless it has defended the Danish Cartoonists, and all the others and apologize to the 9-11 families for letting PC let the 19 hijackers in legally after the WTC 1993 attack and bin Laden’s declaration of war.

They must say to the families that they failed them when they called Pat Buchanan a bigot in 1996 and on the day of 9-11 by continuing that.

President Bush must apologize for the religion of peace speech when he knew he had the warnings on August 6, 2001 and was covering that up. He and all the others in the Clinton and Bush administration must apologize for letting PC prevent stopping the 9-11 attacks.

They must also apologize to the Danish Cartoonists and everyone in hiding since their earlier failures.

They must apologize, all of them, to future victims. Whenever they issue a warning, they should issue an apology for letting PC prevent saving the lives of Americans on 9-11.

==How to answer Begala, Blitzer, etc.

If you are on TV and you are asked to denounce someone or some idea, ask to see the 12 Danish Cartoons on their web page first and to show them right then on the TV before you answer.

Show all the Danish Cartoons before asking me that question and put them all on your web page, and then I will answer.

They will say, what’s that got to do with this?


==Was Paul Begala lying in wait for Bay Buchanan?

Did Paul Begala intentionally do what he did to Bay Buchanan?

He is an experienced campaign operative and strategist. He coaches people on what to do in these situations. Wasn’t this deliberate?

Wasn’t Paul Begala intentionally covering up for the Clinton administration 9-11 guilt?

Wasn’t he intentionally doing what Peter Jennings, Norman Mineta, and George Bush did on and after 9-11?

Isn’t it all the same? Isn’t it all true?

At last sir, have you no decency?

Does the Clinton team have no decency?

Didn’t the Clinton team choose to cover up and lie about sex, FBI files, travelgate, IMF loans to Russia, Wall Street trading Russian government bonds, Paula Jones IRS audit, Judicial Watch IRS audit, IRS audits of the other Clinton women, the 1990’s stock market bubble, Saudi Arabia funding terrorism, Pakistan’s nuclear program, Chinese influence, and all the rest instead of stopping immigration after the WTC 1993 attack, the August 1998 embassy bombings, the USS Cole attack in 2000, bin Laden’s declaration of war in 1998 and all the other classified information they have never disclosed?

The MSM, Bush team, Democrats, Republicans, Congress, Blair, Labour Party, Conservative Party, Lib Dems, profs, think tanks, and all the rest?

==Who should receive an apology:

  1. Virgil Goode
  2. 9-11 Families
  3. American People
  4. Bay Buchanan
  5. Pat Buchanan
  6. Bob Dole
  7. Danish Cartoonists
  8. Rushdie
  9. All others in hiding
  10. All those who had to engage in ritual denunciations from fear of PC or Muslim terrorists.
  11. Future victims of sleeper cells already in the US after the 1993 WTC attack.
  12. Future victims of sleeper cells already in the US after the 1998 embassy bombings attack.
  13. Future victims of sleeper cells already in the US after the 1998 bin Laden declaration of war.
  14. Future victims of sleeper cells already in the US after the August 6, 2001 PDB.
  15. Future victims of sleeper cells already in the US after the 2001 WTC and Pentagon attack.
  16. Future victims of sleeper cells already in the US after each and every event on the Complete 9-11 Timeline started by Paul Thompson and championed by the 9-11 Families. (And they need money, please donate this Dec 2006 they have a 10,000 matching grant.)
  17. Future victims of sleeper cells to enter after today, whatever day today is.

Future Operating Procedures

No network or newspaper like CNN should allow anyone who asks for stopping Muslim immigration to be called a bigot or ask someone to denounce them until they apologize to all the above and post the Danish Cartoons, and show them on TV and publish them in their print edition, whatever is applicable.


To avoid the overposting police, I have added to the above

Paul Begala should apologize to Bay Buchanan, Pat and Virgil Goode

Virgil Goode Right: Stop Muslim Immigration

I shall just say whenever one is put on the spot to ritually denounce Goode or anyone else for PC violations, ask the TV station to

(1) First show all 12 Danish Cartoons

(2) Post them on their webpage

And they should show all 12 before you answer.

Bring them with you and ask them to show them on the TV and then post them on their webpage.

Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 21, 2006 08:08 PM

==What to say to Paul Begala

Ask him to apologize to the 9-11 Famlies for failing them by letting the 19 hijackers immigrate after 9-11.

Ask Begala to apologize to the 9-11 Families for calling Pat Buchanan, or others associated with the Democratic Party or Clinton admin, a bigot when he wanted to stop or limit immigration after the WTC 1993 attacks during the 1996 Clinton Dole Presidential Campaign.

Ask Begala to apologize to Pat Buchanan and his sister for these incidents.

Ask him to apologize to all those in hiding now because of events that happened after the WTC 1993 on the Clinton watch.

Ask him to apologize for all the scandals of the Clinton years that kept them from dealing with the WTC 1993 attacks.

Ask him to apologize for not responding to the WTC 1993 attacks with at least as much action as after the WTC and Pentagon 2001 attacks.

Ask him to apologize for the role of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan being covered up by both the Clinton and Bush teams.

Ask him to apologize for the 1995 Jamie Gorelick Wall Memo.

Ask him to apologize for the joint cover up by Democrats and Republicans, Clinton and Bush of all the things that happened from Jan 20, 1989 to present.

Ask him to apologize for all of the issues raised above.

Ask him if he has, at last, no decency, and when he and the Clinton team and the Democratic Party lost it?


Ask for a moment of silence for past and future victims of what they are afraid to name.

And another moment for all its victims around the world today, all those in prison, being tortured, denied legal rights, women denied equality, people in hiding in any country, and all the rest, all of it from something they can’t name and are afraid to name lest they too have to go in hiding or receive death threats, which many can’t afford the body guards for.

Ask for a moment of silence of all the victims of the 1930’s in the Soviet Union when the New York Times would not tell the truth and covered it up.

All the victims of Hitler who could have been saved if the truth and action had been taken sooner.

All the victims of the Muslim genocide of Christians and Jews in the Ottoman Empire and its successor states from 1890 to the present and for not naming what is causing this.

Another moment for all those who almost died in the cold war and might still from letting Russia, China, Pakistan, North Korea, and now it appears Iran get nuclear weapons.


“”PC” may have been invented by some misguided liberals, ”

From wiki

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The contemporary use of the term political correctness is said to derived from Marxist-Leninist vocabulary to describe the Party Line. [1]

The term was transformed and used jokingly within the Left by the early 1980s, possibly earlier. [citation needed] In this context, the phrase was applied to either an over-commitment to various left-wing political causes, especially within Marxism or the feminist movement; or to a tendency by some of those dedicated to these causes to be more concerned with rhetoric and vocabulary than with substance.

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Only those who have stood up for the Danish Cartoonists, and all others in hiding in Western
or Muslim lands for speaking the truth have a moral right to call Goode, Pat Buchanan or anyone else a bigot.

All those in the MSM, or Democratic Party or Clinton Administration who called Pat Buchanan a bigot for saying restrict immigration then in the 1996 Clinton Dole presidential race should apologize to the 9-11 families. They knew on 9-11, that their words had cost the 3000 people their lives.

The MSM, Clinton and Bush teams then pre-emptively used PC language to frighten the 9-11 families from questioning why immigration continued after the WTC 1993 attack by Muslim immigrants. This goes on and we are watching the same techniques used on 9-11 on TV and afterwards against the 9-11 Families on Virgil Goode.


Good bumper sticker Caroline. That’s what Virgi Goode or Bay Buchanan should say next time they get accosted by the MSM apology police.

Its interesting that the Saudi Religious Police, Paul Begala, and the MSM police all want Virgil Goode and Bay Buchanan to say the same thing.

I wonder if Virgil Goode’s two names have something to do with his deciding to stand up for truth and Americans.

Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 21, 2006 10:21 PM



The next time Bay Buchanan is on Wolf Blitzer with Begala and they ask her to apologize and ritually denounce Goode, she should say, do you guys work for the Saudi Religious Police?


CNN should have had Robert Spencer instead of Bay Buchanan to be the opposite view to Paul Begala.

They chose Bay Buchanan because she doesn’t know enough about Islam and all the history to answer PC loaded, surrender or be called a bigot questions. To stand up to those you need an enormous amount of knowledge.

They chose her as their victim intentionally.

The answer to PC is knowledge. But you have to have a lot of knowledge to be able to use it on the spot on TV with the sickle of being denounced as a bigot hanging over your head.

Begala preps people for TV and debate. He knows what it is. He knew what he was doing.

Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 21, 2006 10:32 PM

Standing up to PC loaded questions to denounce someone takes the specialized knowledge and daily practice in Islam and current events involving it of a Robert Spencer. Its like surgery or litigation. You need someone who does it every day.

Begala knew that. That’s why he picked on Bay Buchanan. He had choreographed that denunciation of Virgil Goode the way a football coach scripts out the first plays of a football game. In fact, he did it like a Paul Begala scrips out a gotcha gimmick in a political debate.



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