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1965 Immigration Act Causes U inverted U in Income Inequality and Fertility

June 1, 2007

Immigration caused a U shaped effect in income inequality from 1914 to present as immigration restriction was put in place in the 1920’s and taken off in the 1960’s. But looking at post WWII, we also see an inverted U shape in fertility. Fertility rises from 1945 to the late 1950’s in some studies where it peaks and then falls to below replacement today.

If we look at the long trend from 1800 to 1990, we see that fertility starts falling in the 1820’s and continues to 1990, the end of the chart, except for a brief interlude from around 1940 to c. 1960 and then it resumes falling with a big pickup in falling in the mid to late 1960’s. From the 1820’s to 1990 we had massive immigration.

The baby boom happened during the period of immigration restriction. There is no period outside the period of immigration restriction from 1800 to 1990 when fertility went up. Thus we can say that in the US since 1800, immigration has been the irresistible force pulling down fertility.

The period of immigration restriction didn’t cause an abnormal rise in female fertility to 3 and as high as 3.5 children per woman during the peak of the baby boom. Immigration restriction allowed female fertility to return to the normal level of 3 or 3.5 or higher that occurred in the 1950’s. The 1950’s were not abnormally high female fertility, they were normal, and even still low female fertility.

What ended the return to normal female fertility in the 1950’s, or even still low female fertility in the 1950’s? It was the resumption of immigration in the 1960’s. That returned to the abnormal fall in female fertility. Falling female fertility can’t be normal because below 2.1 is below replacement and leads to human extinction, which is not normal.

The fall in female fertility from the 1820’s to 1990 except during the post WWII normal period during immigration restriction is what is abnormal. That falling graph of female fertility is highly abnormal. That was during the period of immigration.

When it falls after 1965, it falls like a rock. The exact location of the peak for social science data is really confirmed by the events around them, its not a hard physical peak. Its partly random. So its really a soft peak. Its the drop in the 1960’s that really makes the peak happen in the late 1950’s.

Both the U of income inequality and the inverted U of fertility show the impact and timing of post war immigration. When immigration is low, income inequality is falling, and thus job security is rising, and fertility is rising. When immigration starts in 1965, this virtuous cycle is cut off immediately. If one regards the peak as in the 1950’s, the 1960’s confirms the peak.

Fertility didn’t peak in 1945 when man came home from war, it peaked in the late 1950’s. Fertility dropped like a rock in the 1960’s when immigration was restarted and immigrants came here to work. That is when income inequality stopped falling and started to rise.

The result was to create job insecurity for the young. They could no longer trust in the future to bring them better jobs. So the young couldn’t get married young, have kids, stay married, and have more kids. Instead, they had to postpone children. For some, forever.

The facts and timing to be explained for the U of income inequality and the inverted U of fertility, and their being mirror images in the post 1945 period are explained only by immigration and its timing.

We shall first review the math of the immigration substitution effect. Then we review material on income inequality and wages including Vdare’s Edward Rubenstein’s analysis of the U in income equality and his quotations from Northwestern University economists Ian Dew-Becker and Robert J. Gordon. We then review a graph from 1800 to 1990 in fertility in the US which shows the inverted U in fertility from 1945 to present.

Fertility rises from c. 1940 (it doesn’t peak in 1945 as the left has tried to make us think) to c. 1960. It apparently peaks in the late 1950’s and falls substantially after the time of the 1965 Immigration Act. It was 3 to 3.5 in the late 1950’s, and is now somewhere in the 2 range.

Both the U in income inequality and the inverted U in fertility are consequences of the more basic math of the immigration substitution effect. The fact that population is bounded above means that immigration at some point has to substitute for births, otherwise population wouldn’t be bounded above. Thus there has to be a substitution from births to immigrants that eventually becomes 1 for 1 when population no longer increases. This substitution effect is a requirement of basic arithmetic.

The substitution effect shows up in wages by cutting them off and lowering them as immigrants take wages that American’s don’t want to earn, and are not enough to provide job security for family formation when Americans are young. This income insecurity and job insecurity prevents marriage when Americans are young. They can’t just get married and have kids when biology tells them to. This creates a mismatch in biology and income that is not an accident, but implied by population being bounded above together with a sustained flow of immigration.

It is the knowledge of future immigration that shapes expectations of job insecurity in the young and their parents. They see their own fathers lose good jobs and get no good job to replace it. That sends the signal of permanent job insecurity as their generation’s fate. That fate is not from the gods, its from the Senate and the MSM. Its from universities that teach it. Its from shows like All in the Family that celebrate both Archie and his son-in-law being one child men.

==Omnia Cleansing Immigration Substitution Effect

Mathematically, immigration causes omnia cleansing. To review the math:

Suppose US population is stable at 300 million. If people live 75 years, 4 million die per year. If 2 million enter, and pop is stable, then there are 2 million births. 2 million births over 4 million deaths is a genetic survival ratio of 1/2. 25 years birth to parent, so in 75 years, 3 cycles leaves 1/8 genes. Even if pop goes to 450mm and 1 million enter, we get a fraction of 5/6 per cycle, which results in genetic extinction.

This happens by lowering wages and is happening already. There is a substitution effect from births to immigrants.


“Numbers Drop for the Married With Children
Institution Becoming The Choice of the Educated, Affluent

By Blaine Harden
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, March 4, 2007; Page A03

PORTLAND, Ore. — Punctuating a fundamental change in American family life, married couples with children now occupy fewer than one in every four households — a share that has been slashed in half since 1960 and is the lowest ever recorded by the census.

As marriage with children becomes an exception rather than the norm, social scientists say it is also becoming the self-selected province of the college-educated and the affluent.

end quote

Archie Bunker had one child and his son-in-law had one child. The Left cheered that. Archie represents the Wasp Scotch Irish German etc. founders. The son-in-law is Polish and represents the descendants of 19th century immigrants. The show is post the 1950’s baby boom. It shows both men as being one-child men. It shows this happens to the son-in-law because he can’t get a steady job out of school the way Archie’s generation could.

from WaPo

Many demographers peg the rise of a class-based marriage gap to the erosion since 1970 of the broad-based economic prosperity that followed World War II.


All in the Family is an acclaimed American situation comedy that was originally broadcast on the CBS television network from January 12, 1971 to April 8, 1979.


Men’s median wages reached their peak in 1973 and are flat since then. See graph page 18 at census. By 1971, fertility had dropped like a rock from its peak, wherever one locates that in 1957 or a little later in the Karen Stevenson graph.

One of the Germán Rodríguez Princeton fertility graphs shows that fertility fell all through the 1970’s and reached rock bottom by the late 1970’s, below replacement. This is the time period of the show All in the Family. That show was advocating and even gloating in the decline in fertility of median men through their low wages and their inability to rise economically, in exact contrast to the writers and producers who had.

The show is really a celebration by the successful of the misfortunes of the middle class. It celebrates their low birth rate, below replacement as shown in the show. This exactly mirrored what the same elites were doing in policy terms to the middle class in Washington by their immigration policies.

The median wage of men is the Archie Bunker wage. The graph from census is the Archie Bunker wage graph, its flat since 1973. Just as on the show, Archie doesn’t enjoy in the rising prosperity. Who does? The writers and producers of the show. They get the money from the rising productivity of workers like Archie, but Archie gets nothing out of his own increased productivity.

Archie’s son-in-law, Michael Stivic, makes less than the median wage of men, the Archie Bunker wage. The fertility graph is the fertility graph of both Archie Bunker and his son-in-law. We can call it the Archie Bunker Fertility Graph. The grand child graph that Archie has is at 1/4 per grandparent in effect.

Archie Bunker is Median Man, which is even below Average Man, because the Median in wages or fertility is below the average. The show All in the Family is a celebration by those in the top 1 percent, the MSM Nation, of the misfortunes of Median Man. Median Man’s wages don’t go up. Median Man’s son-in-law doesn’t have a job to support Median Man’s daughter, so they have to live with Median Man.

==MSM Nation

The MSM Nation are the beautiful people on TV, in the Senate, professors at Harvard, CEO’s, etc. They live on MSM or they go on MSM to plug their books or other services. They have rejected assimilation to the Middle America Nation. They are not assimilationists to Middle America but rejectionists.

They require to join and remain that members reject Middle America. This means no loyalty to Middle America on wages, fertility, immigration, physical security, job security, ER availability, etc. Members of the MSM Nation call Middle Americans bigots. This justifies all the harm that the MSM Nation does to the Middle America Nation.

Archie Bunker is the man who embodies to the MSM Nation, the Middle America Nation (Man). Archie is the median man, the middle man. His wage is flat since 1973. His fertility is below replacement. He deserves his fate because he is a bigot.

==MSM Nation celebrated deaths of Archie Bunkers

The reaction on and to 9-11 and the WTC 1993 attacks by Peter Jennings, George Stephanopoulos, Paul Begala, Bill Clinton and others in the MSM Nation shows exactly this same response. The Red Crescent Memorial was the MSM Nation celebrating the deaths of Archie Bunkers in the Middle America Nation.

==MSM Nation is all it accuses others of, xenophobic.

The MSM Nation is totally xenophobic, fearing strangers. To them the stranger or other is the Median Man, Middle America, or Median America. They despise and loathe Median America and call it Bigoted America.

They vent their hatred of Median America all the time and openly. The MSM Nation is the most outwardly xenophobic, intolerant, and bigoted nation in history. It never stops. It requires its victims to join in their own vilification.

The MSM Nation is also the most omnia cleansing nation in history. No other group in history cleanses its victim to extinction as efficiently or as totally as the MSM Nation. Immigration is omnia cleansing. The math is discussed above, and we see it in the wage and fertility data. The MSM Nation is all the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse. It says that Median America deserves it, because it rejects Median America as bigoted.


“Fertility in the US 1917 to 1980”

Germán Rodríguez, Office of Population Research, Princeton University

==1800 to 1990 Fertility Graph by

Black and white fertility in the US went from around 8 in 1800 to around 2 in 2000.

Look at the graph of fertility from 1800 to 1990 below:

Fertility spikes up starting in 1945 and peaks c. 1965 on this graph. Note the graph here and the one above are not agreeing exactly on the peak date. For this type of data, which has a random component, the timing of a turning point has to be confirmed by the years that follow it. Its the dropping of fertility as the 1960’s go on and its continued low or falling value after that which makes c. 1960 a meaningful peak in fertility.

What happened c. 1965 to confirm fertility’s peak being c. 1960 and reverse fertility’s rise to a sudden fall? The Kennedy 1965 Immigration Act. There are 2 facts to explain for the baby boom, why it started and why it ended. Its ending is forgotten or considered as a return to normality. What normality?

Below replacement fertility can’t be normal because it results in human extinction. Since humans still exist, they must have had at least replacement fertility as their normal condition.

The long term graph shows that fertility in the 1960’s and 1970’s dropped to unprecedentedly low levels. These are the lowest since 1800. People are taught by the MSM that the baby boom was abnormal and that current levels of fertility are normal. This is a fallacy. Current levels of fertility are the lowest in human history. The lowest in human history is not normal, its abnormal.

Although blamed on World War II, the baby boom may simply reflect low immigration after WWII combined with prosperity. WWII only lasted from 1941 to 1945 in the US, and so can’t explain a baby boom lasting many years after 1945 and involving people not old enough to go to war in 1945.

Those 17 in 1945 were having children in 1946 as 18 year olds. It can’t be because they went to war, because they didn’t.

Fertility didn’t peak in 1945, but c. 1960. How did pent up demand in World War II cause fertility to peak c. 1960? The war for the US lasted from 1941 to 1945, 4 years. But fertility peaked in the 1950’s and dropped rapidly in the 1960’s. So how could WWII have caused births to peak not in 1945 but in the 1950’s? WWII doesn’t explain the baby boom post war.

Fertility did not go from a low in 1944 to a peak in 1946. There was a jump in births in 1945 and 1946, but that is just a blip on the graph. The real change on the graph is the 1945 to 1950’s/60’s change, which despite the blip in 1945 is dominated by the trend upwards from 1945 to the late 1950’s and not by the change in any one year.

==Why does Archie Bunker deserve one kid and one grandkid?

Because he is a bigot. This is the message of the MSM Nation. They said that in the show All in the Family from 1971 to 1979, precisely the years they were pushing the fertility of Archie Bunker men to below replacement. The producers and writers were part of the MSM Nation and they were writing hate material to justify the omnia cleansing of the Middle America Nation, which omnia cleansing they were carrying out by immigration.

==Final comment on peak location in 1950’s v. 1960’s

in two graphs.

If the 1960’s had stayed the same as the 1950’s we wouldn’t think of 1957 or c.1960 as a peak. So don’t get hung up on 1957 or c. 1960 as the peak as if this was a physical process. Its the behavior in the 1960’s that makes the peak be in the 1950’s, not God saying 1957 is the peak.

==What caused the fall off in the 1960’s?

If one imagines the baby boom was caused by WWII pent up demand, then the fall off should have started in 1950 at the latest. The fall off started in the 1960’s. The question is what caused the fall off?

The fall off is what is abnormal. Fertility in the 1950’s was 3 to 3.5, normal. So its the fall off in the 1960’s and its staying low after the 1960’s that has to be explained.

==Operation Wetback 1954 removed1.2 million illegals.

By removing illegals in 1954, Operation Wetback helped make the period of immigration restriction in law be a period of immigration restriction in fact. Operation Wetback together with restriction of legal immigration made America safe for the baby boom. That was safe in job security and physical security. The baby boom was the time of unique job and physical security in America. It was the best time to have babies, and fertility returned to normal levels.

Fertility above replacement is the human norm. Its the period of immigration from 1820 to 1990, excluding the safe time of restriction of immigration, that has resulted in the abnormal drop in female fertility.

Nor was this drop caused by women working in the 1960’s for the first time in human history. America was an agricultural country in which women worked, just as women have always worked since the origin of the human species, and before.


Income inequality was low and going lower in 1945:

Income Inequality U Shape Timeline

Kennedy rescued his stock portfolio by the 1965 Immigration Act which restored income inequality to the rich and the Senate today thanks him for his generosity. Kennedy is a Senator’s Senator.

==Income Inequality measures Income Insecurity

Income inequality measures income insecurity for the middle class. When income inequality is high, income insecurity is high for the middle class. Its income insecurity that stops babies. As soon as the 1965 Immigration Act was passed, the forward looking income insecurity of the middle class jumped.

What was Benjamin told in “The Graduate”? He was told the future was in plastics. Benjamin in “The Graduate” doesn’t know what job he will have or what he will do. The day of job insecurity for college graduates had already arrived.

The Graduate was released in April 1968. So it was written after the 1965 Immigration Act. There was a new wind blowing, and it wasn’t about job security.

==U shaped pattern income inequality

As Edward Rubenstein points out

“In debunking SBTC the authors make a broader historical point regarding immigration:”

“To be convincing, a theory must fit the facts, and the basic facts to be explained about income equality are not one but two, that is, not only why inequality rose after the mid-1970s but why it declined from 1929 to the mid-1970s. Three events fit neatly into this U-shaped pattern, all of which influence the effective labor supply curve and the bargaining power of labor: (1) the rise and fall of unionization, (2) the decline and recovery of immigration, and (3) the decline and recovery in the importance of international trade and the share of imports…”

==Fertility Post War is Upside Down U, or Inverted U

Fertility has to explain the Upside Down U, not just why it rose starting in 1945 but why it peaked c. 1960 and then went down. What we notice is that the Upside Down U of fertility and the U of Income Inequality happen to approximately mirror each other.

== Income Fertility U See-Saw

We get the U see-saw. When income of the middle class goes up, fertility goes up, which was happening in 1945. When the income of the middle class stagnates as started after the 1965 Immigration Act, fertility drops like a rock.

==Fertility and Job Inecurity See Saw

Income inequality measures job insecurity. When income inequality is high, job insecurity is high. As income inequality fell post 1945, fertility went up.

==”Devaluing Labor”

By Harold Meyerson

Wednesday, August 30, 2006; Page A19

The young may be understandably incredulous, but the Great Compression, as economists call it, was the single most important social fact in our country in the decades after World War II. From 1947 through 1973, American productivity rose by a whopping 104 percent, and median family income rose by the very same 104 percent. More Americans bought homes and new cars and sent their kids to college than ever before. In ways more difficult to quantify, the mass prosperity fostered a generosity of spirit: The civil rights revolution and the Marshall Plan both emanated from an America in which most people were imbued with a sense of economic security.

As a remarkable story by Steven Greenhouse and David Leonhardt in Monday’s New York Times makes abundantly clear, wages and salaries now make up the lowest share of gross domestic product since 1947, when the government began measuring such things. Corporate profits, by contrast, have risen to their highest share of the GDP since the mid-’60s — a gain that has come chiefly at the expense of American workers.

Problem is, the declining power of the American workforce antedates the integration of China and India into the global labor pool by several decades. Since 1973 productivity gains have outpaced median family income by 3 to 1.

==Devaluing Labor <-> Devaluing Archie Bunker

The show All in the Family is all about devaluing labor. Archie Bunker is a bigot. He is the Median Man. He deserves a wage flat at 1973 levels and fertility at 1970’s levels, below replacement. Both the flat 1973 wages and the falling during the 1970’s to below replacement fertility are the fate of Median Man. Archie has this fate because he is a bigot. He must go extinct. Those are MSM Nation values.

But this doesn’t happen because the gods willed it, it happens because the MSM Nation wills it. Its their 1965 Immigration Act, their 1986 amnesty, and their legal immigration policies from 1965 onwards that are causing the flat median wages and below replacement fertility that Median Man experiences.

They are doing it to Archie Bunker, not the gods. Its the same people who produced the All in the Family show. That show is propaganda against Archie Bunker.

They also use divide and rule tactics. They show Archie Bunker in conflict with 19th century immigrants, in the person of his son-in-law, and blacks. But in reality, all these groups are part of Median Man. All these groups are having their wages put on hold at 1973 levels. All these groups are experiencing falling fertility to below replacement levels.

Its the MSM Nation that gets all the higher labor productivity of the workers. Since 1973, productivity went up, but the median worker gets no rise in wages. That is from immigration. The MSM nation gets that rise in productivity, not the workers, immigrant or not.

==Devaluing The Median Man

The MSM Nation is using propaganda like All in the Family and the equivalents in K-99 to justify the immigration that it is engaged in. The omnia cleansing of Median Man by immigration is the obsession of the MSM Nation.

==Thus the Income Inequality Fertility U inverted-U See-Saw

From 1945 to the 1965 Immigration Act, income and income security went up for the middle class, and their job security, even more important, so they could get married young, have kids young, stay married, and have more kids. Young people have no job security today.

== Men’s Median Wages in 1973 are a ceiling to all groups

Men’s median wages are lower than in 1973.

Income, Poverty, and
Health Insurance Coverage in
the United States: 2005

US Census Report on wages By
Carmen DeNavas-Walt
Bernadette D. Proctor
Cheryl Hill Lee

Graph page 18 shows men’s median wages peaked in 1973, they are lower now. Women’s median wages are lower than men’s, which means they are lower than men earned in 1973. Black median wages are lower than all men, which means black wages are lower than what all men made in 1973.

== Male Labor Force Participation Rates have fallen since 1965

White and black men’s labor force participation rates fell from about 80 percent, equal to each other, in 1965 to 74 percent for whites and 66 percent for blacks.

Black, white, Asian and Hispanic male labor force participation rates are projected by BLS to fall from 2004 to 2014, even before the effect of the proposed 2006 and 2007 Bush McCain Kennedy Kyl Senate Amnesty plans are factored in.

==Summary Fertility Income Inequality U inverted U Mirror

There are not just 2 facts to be explained, as Ed Rubinstein quoting the profs points out, there are more than 2. We have the U in income inequality and the upside down U of fertility. These mirror each other. Whether one calls this 4 facts or 5 or some larger number, the Mirror U inverted U pattern of income inequality and fertility has to be explained. What explains them is the substitution effect of immigration pointed out at the start.

Immigration creates as a mathematical theorem a substitution effect of immigrants for births. This is a consequence of the population being bounded above. That bound can be absolute or a relative local bound determined by current technology, available and safe land, ambient threats, culture and other factors. Whatever those are, the impact of immigration is to depress the fertility rate.

We see this illustrated in our own time. Below replacement fertility can’t be normal, because humans still exist. Below replacement fertility is a sign of huge stress. That stress is immigration. It impacts not just whites but blacks, showing its broad based.

==Fairus Report

Full report by Jack Martin


Search immigration income inequality

Income Inequality U Shape Timeline

7 of the top 8 wealthiest Senators voted for S. 2611, amnesty, affirmative action, non-deportable crime, and a pathway for the top 1 percent of households to continue to enjoy 20 percent of each year’s income, compared to 10 percent before Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act. The only 1 of the top 8 who didn’t vote for S. 2611 didn’t vote, Jay Rockefeller. McCain is 7th and Kennedy 8th in wealth.

Open Secrets

Rank Name Minimum Net Worth Maximum Net Worth

1 Herb Kohl (D-Wis) $219,098,029 to $234,549,004 Voted Yes S. 2611

2 John Kerry (D-Mass) $165,741,511 to $235,262,100 Voted Yes S. 2611

3 Jay Rockefeller (D-WVa) $78,150,023 to $101,579,003 Not Voting S. 2611

4 Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif) $43,343,464 to $98,660,021 Voted Yes S. 2611

5 Lincoln D. Chafee (R-RI) $41,153,105 to $64,096,019 Voted Yes S. 2611

6 Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ) $38,198,170 to $90,733,019 Voted Yes S. 2611

7 John McCain (R-Ariz) $25,071,142 to $38,043,014 Voted Yes S. 2611

8 Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass) $19,189,049 to $93,043,004 Voted Yes S. 2611

More data here

Hutchison Pence amnesty and expanded guest worker info here.

Free fax to Congress on hot immigration bills:


From an earlier Old Atlantic article:

The lives of Arlen Specter and the 6 cosponsors of S. 2611 are reviewed at the end of the article in terms of how they fit on the income inequality graph. Arlen Specter, John McCain and Ted Kennedy were born in the 1930’s and became young adults in the 1950’s while income inequality was falling. They could build careers and have families while still young. Two Senators, Chuck Hagel and Mel Martinez were born in 1946. They became 21 in 1967. They had families and full careers as they timed the income inequality graph perfectly, low income inequality when they were young and rising while they got on top. Both became rich on this curve.

Lindsey Graham and Sam Brownback were born in the mid 1950’s. Graham had to start out as the curve was getting worse. He had to choose a career or family and chose career. He has never had children. Brownback solved this problem by marrying an heiress and has 5 children and a career. Brownback is running for president.

Patrick Cleburne comments on the prior Old Atlantic article at
The Senate: In an Income Time Warp?”

Patrick Cleburne

A large number of Americans appear to have realized that income inequality has increased and that massive immigration is substantially responsible. And they are increasingly willing to say so.

A frequently-expressed view of Peter Brimelow’s is that the current generation of political “leaders” was formed intellectually before immigration was discernable as a social problem. Quite possibly they will literally have to die off before public policy will change – people rarely have new ideas.

Personally, though, I still think the more persuasive explanation is that these Senators are selfish, corrupt, and unAmerican.

==Senate BillsS. 1348 will perpetuate the U inverted U Mirror that has smited America’s middle class. Call your Senators and let them know what you think about that.


Ted Kennedy, George Bush, John McCain, Jon Kyl and other senators timed the U’s, both in income inequality and fertility to maximum advantage. To do that they had to minimize the fortunes in income and fertility of the middle class.

They are leaders of the MSM Nation. The MSM Nation is now engaged in the cleansing of Median America by immigration. As the fertility charts and wage charts show, this cleansing process is an implementation of the math of omnia cleansing, the math of halving.

The MSM nation blames Median Man, Bigot Man, for all the sins of history. Every Holocaust, ethnic cleansing, pogrom, war, air raid, disease spreading immigration from Europe, or other event in history that is bad they blame on bigotry. They blame all bigotry on Median Man, Archie Bunker, Bigot Man. So they are using immigration to engage in the mathematical omnia cleansing of Bigot Man. As the wage and fertility graphs show, this is working. They are cleansing Bigot Man. Just as All in the Family showed from 1971 to 1979, the fertility of Bigot Man, of Median Man, is below replacement. So the MSM Nation is winning. This is why their reaction to 9-11 and the WTC 93 attacks was more immigration. They want Archie Bunker cleansed. They are using fertility as their main weapon, but the reason they don’t stop immigration or hold Pakistan or Saudi Arabia to account is because they are doing the job that the MSM Nation has already decided on, the final solution to the Bigot Problem, the final solution to the Archie Bunker problem, the final solution to Median Man problem.

This is why Lindsey Graham and George Bush start calling people bigots when the people oppose immigration. Graham and Bush are saying, don’t you understand, you’re bigots, you are supposed to be cleansed out of existence. Graham and Bush are saying that’s the whole point, to cleanse out you bigots and eliminate you from the face of the earth.


Lindsay Graham bigot

Lindsay Graham bigot immigration

Bush bigot immigration


Baker Hamilton Iraq Study Group Fallacies

December 6, 2006

The Baker Hamilton Iraq Study Group has based their analysis on a number of fallacies. Some of these were in the Gingrich article at Front Page Mag.

Fallacy: Iraq can be analysed by itself

Iraq is a war by itself, not part of a regional war.

Fallacy: Iran and Syria part of the solution.

Baker Hamilton treat enemy countries, Iran and Syria as part of the solution, not part of the war.

This is like invading France in 1944 at Normandy and asking Germany to help end the insurgency.

Fallacy: Ignoring Islam

Islam is the problem. Baker Hamilton ignore this.

Mistake: Maliki is a friend.

al Maliki is an enemy, as is the government of Iraq.

Fallacy: Islamic Republic can be pro-Western
Islamic Republics are anti-American. By creating Islamic Republics in Iraq and Afghanistan we created enemies. We are dying to strengthen enemies.

Iraq Army could turn on us?

The Iraq army if it gets strong enough will stab us in the back. The fallacy is to spend our resources to make a hostile army stronger in the name of stability.

Stable Iraq can build nukes?

A stable Iraq can be a more effective enemy. They already are an enemy, except for the Kurds.

Don’t help Christians and Kurds.

This is a standard Jim Baker mistake. Baker betrayed the Christians in Lebanon to Syria during the Iraq war.

Leaving embeds in a hosilte army?

We can’t leave embeds in an enemy army, a fallacious conclusion of the Baker Hamilton Iraq Study Group.

Golan Heights Giveaway?

Israel is an ally. They propose giving the Golan Heights back to Syria. Syria is an enemy country. This is like giving France back to Germany in 1944.

When did giving back the Golan Heights become part of their mandate?

Fallacy: Israel is the problem.

Turkey started genocide of Christians in the 1890’s, before Israel was founded in 1947. Islam is the problem. Demographics are the problem. Their immigration here is the problem. Disloyalty and self-interest of our leaders is the problem. PC Leftist Marxist self-hate is the problem, especially when used by self-interested “leaders”.

Holding Ground v. Holding onto an Enemy?

Like Patton said, don’t hold ground, hold onto the enemy. The enemy right now is Iran. Hold on to them and finish them.

Invading Iran, they assume we won’t.

BH said if we withdraw, Iran and Syria will invade Iraq. Iran won’t invade Iraq if its busy being invaded by us.

Immigration to US brings in enemies?

We have to stop all immigration to the US. We can’t have people coming from enemy countries who believe in an enemy ideology of our destruction coming here.

That includes Communist Chinese grad students as well as grad students from Russia. Both are enemy countries that see themselves as our adversary.

Don’t Fight wars when killed are 200?

The time to fight wars is when battle phase deaths are 200 per war, or even 2000.

Ignore need for Iranian regime change

We need to remove the Iranian regime that is hostile to us and prevents a solution in Iraq.

We need to apply Weed and Seed in Iran. Weed and seed is remove what’s bad, seed what’s good and see what grows. If its a weed, remove it.

Ignore Iran’s missiles, subs and nuclear program.

We need to remove Iran’s missile, sub, and nuclear program. We can’t let Iran put nukes on missiles on subs and have them off our shores or sell them to North Korea or Pakistan. The time to defeat them is now.

We have Iran surrounded on 3 sides. Saddam didn’t. We have air and naval power, Saddam didn’t. We have a better military than Saddam or Iran in the 1980’s or what they have now.

Give up bases to invade Iran from?
We should not retreat from Iraq and give up our bases to attack Iran. We lose more dead from retaking this ground around Iran than attacking now.

If Iran defends forward, we defeat it from our bases, if back, we can defeat it piecemeal. If it defends back, it loses missile and sub bases to threaten our ships.

Our biggest potential loss in a war with Iran is a missile or sub that sinks a carrier. So we want to use our ground troops to remove missiles in range of our ships and subs. Air power will get most but not all of their missiles.

Pakistan nukes, subs, missiles.

Pakistan has nukes, subs and missiles and is intending to combine them. They have a sub shipyard the French built for them. They have a new nuclear reactor coming on line that will help them build many minaturized warheads that will fit on missiles on subs.

Risks in Iran Invasion made worse

Attacking Iran from the ground from Iraq is less risky than using ships. Big ships can be sunk by Iran’s missiles or subs. We want to move our ships back and use ground forces because its lower risk and lower cost. To do that, we need bases in Iraq.

The BH group wants us to lower our ground forces and remove our combat units from Iraq. That will let Iran attack them. It also doesn’t let us attack Iran during a rotation when we double up combat units in Iraq. That means we lose surprise.

Delay makes Iran and Pakistan problems worse and solutions more costly and risky.

Surround and Blockade Pakistan

We must surround and blockade Pakistan to force it to give up its subs, missiles and nukes. If that fails, we must invade it. We need to surround it to minimize casualties.

We need bases in Iraq to invade Iran at lower cost. We need to invade Iran to surround Pakistan. We need to surround and blockade Pakistan to make it give up its nukes without fighting a war.

We have wasted time after 9-11

We have wasted time. We should have won the whole war starting after 9-11 by the end of 2003. That should have included Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Hezbollah, Afghanistan, Hamas, and North Korea. We have acted as if we had time, when we don’t.

Our know-how is going to China, Iran, Pakistan

Our military advantage is eroded by Chinese grad students and H1B’s and Indian and other nationals who give our technology and know-how to China, Pakistan, Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia, etc.

We have to teach our people math and science in our grad schools, and not the people of any other country at all. We need to employ our people in our country, and not the people of any other country at all. We need to give our young adults economic and job security so they can get married, have kids and stay married. That means ending immigration.

Islam at war with West using immigration

Islam is at war with us using immigration and population demographics. We are losing that war. Islam is conquering Europe and Russia by these means. We must get Europe to stop immigration and to keep Turkey out of Europe.

Islam’s history is war with West

We have to look at history. We have to stop the PC idea that we are the problem of history and return to the idea of our forbears that Islam is the problem. We need leaders on our side, not on the side of their own pipeline deals.

Lee Hamilton lied about Saudi Pak role in 9-11

We don’t need a Lee Hamilton who lies about the role of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia and then to cover up his lies pretends that Iraq is a problem by itself instead of part of a wider war, a war he covered up.

Pakistan and Saudi Arabia attacked us on 9-11 through proxies. They are supporting the insurgencies against us in Iraq and Afghanistan. So is Iran. All 3 countries are at war with us. They are the main enemy homelands. We must defeat all 3.

Baker Hamilton, Baker Kean, Nawaf Obaid, Prince Turki al-Faisal, President Bush in defending Saudi Arabia and Prince Bandar are part of the same disinformation machine working against us.

We need to exclude Muslims from our military, Congress, weapons lab, etc. We must keep Muslims from getting access to Russian, British, French or US nukes. We need to stop their immigration or even visiting our country.

After Pearl Harbor, Immigration stopped.

After Pearl Harbor was attacked, immigration and tourism from Japan and Germany was completely halted. That is what happens in war. Nor did we have Chinese grad students occupy our physics departments and weapons labs, with some exceptions like C. S. Wu, who may have been a spy, other Chinese in the West during WWII later returned to China and built their bombs including Huanwu Peng.

History teaches that countries that continue immigration and tourism from hostile lands during war and after they are caught attacking us from within and stealing our know-how don’t survive. We are a feckless country.

Is it better to bomb Iraq than to stop immigration home? Bush says we have to fight them there so that we don’t have to fight them here. If they can’t come here, they can’t kill us here. Why don’t we stop immigration? Why is it better to kill them in their own lands than stop them coming to our lands?

–America had survival instinct after Dec 7, 1941

America stopped all immigration. It stopped tourism and student visas. Only Americans were taught Ph.D. level physics. Now its the opposite.

The people of that time had a survival instinct for themselves, their children and their country. It was their and their children’s country then and forever. They took it seriously and took their children’s future seriously. They had courage to face up to reality and do what it took to win.

They said the truth. They didn’t say fascism is the religion of peace. They defeated fascism. They didn’t set up fascist republics, courts and laws, they abolished them. They didn’t praise what attacked them, they destroyed it, utterly and completely for all time.

They removed it from the planet so that it could never harm any human being, in their own time or any time to come. They thought not just of themselves, but of generations to come. They did what had to be done.

Leaders want to coverup their betrayal

Our leaders are interested in covering up their mistakes and complicity in our problems, especially in the immigration of the last 40 years that allowed 9-11 and led to our know in night vision and stealth ending up with China.

Time to win is short, invade Iran now

We need to rapidly defeat our enemies before our know-how transferred to China is sold to Iran and Pakistan and used against us.

We are at war, but act like we are not only at peace, but that all the world is already united as one people. We have PC lies broadcast from our media that blame us and undermine our loyalty to ourselves. Our leaders do this for personal advantage and to lie about having betrayed us already. Baker Hamilton are part of that.

Baker Botts Saudi Arabia’s lawyer

Baker Botts is defending Saudi Arabia, a country that Lee Hamilton lied about not having financed the 9-11 attacks against us.

BH study group has covered up Saudi Arabia and Iran’s role in supporting the insurgency against us in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Baker Botts law firm has pipeline deals in the Middle East and Central Asia. James A. Baker IV, the son of James A. Baker III is head of the Washington Office of Baker Botts and part of those pipeline deals.

Prince Bandar has boasted on US TV that he pays people when they leave government and this makes them look at things his way while in government.

The West has the most disloyal leaders in recorded history. The elites in the West have an ideology of hatred of the West and of the middle classes.

Baker Hamiton Botts Bush are more loyal to the elites of our enemies than to our middle class. We have enemies within like the communists in WWII. Like FDR then, our leaders lie about it now.

We have already been attacked from within

Unlike Pearl Harbor, we were attacked from within, not once but multiple times. Our enemies organize in our homeland and use our own courts against us.

After Pearl Harbor, when attacked from without by Imperial Japanese Navy, we interned Japanese. After 9-11 when attacked from within by Muslims, we didn’t intern Muslims or even stop immigration. We got it wrong both times?

Americans during WWII believed in themselves. They wanted to live and though they had an unconditional right to live. Our leaders thought that and were loyal.

Americans believed during WWII that they were fighting to keep this land for themselves and their children forever. They believed this land belonged to them to the exclusion of all others forever. Owning land means excluding others from its enjoyment. They believed they owned this land in that sense and their children would forever.

Ask your politician if he believes the people of this country and their children own this land to the exclusion of all other people forever? Ask them at every opportunity.

Why is killing over 100,000 Iraqis by some counts thinkable and moral, but stopping immigration or deporting those who attack us from within unthinkable? When will worse become not just thinkable but necessary?

Look at what they have done to their lands before coming here? Look at Iraq, Lebanon, the West Bank, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc. What do they do when they come here? They call us racist. They call us names.

They say one thing in English and another thing in their own language. Why is it unthinkable to send them back, but thinkable to bomb their relatives who are still there? Why do we have to bomb their relatives there so they won’t kill us here?

Does that even make sense? Doesn’t bombing their relatives there make them more likely to kill us here? Isn’t that what happened in 1993 at WTC and in 2001 at WTC and the Pentagon?

Didn’t the MSM lie about this after the WTC 1993 attack? Didn’t the MSM say the Republicans were bigots including Pat Buchanan at the 1996 Republican convention to want to slow down immigration?

Didn’t all 19 hijackers come after the 1996 Republican convention? Didn’t the MSM lie on 9-11? Didn’t they call us bigots pre-emptively for wanting to stop immigration?

Didn’t Norman Mineta on 9-12 say he was against profiling to cover up that he was responsible for 3000 people being killed? Didn’t we find out later he had had warnings before 9-11 that he didn’t tell us about on 9-12 when he said no profiling. He was told in advance of the risk, as was Bush and as was Rice. They all did nothing and then after 9-11, lied to us when they said they had no warning and no idea.

If they lied about that, aren’ they lying about immigration? They kill over 100,000 Muslims and say its to keep their relatives here from killing us. But the Muslims here have already attacked us from within. How can killing Muslims there make us safer from Muslims here?

If they can’t deport them, why can’t they stop immigration from the very lands where our troops are being killed or that are supporting it? Saudi Arabia is supplying men, money and arms to the insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan to kill Americans. Why do we have 15,000 Saudi students coming here? Isn’t everything that Bush and the MSM say a lie?

When America is a Lebanon, Iraq, or even a Denmark, France, or Netherlands won’t we have to do worse? When the civil war is on us, won’t we have to do and suffer far worse then? Why can’t we face reality now?

Our ancestors in WWII faced up to what had to be done. They did what it took to protect their land, their children, and their grand children. They didn’t tell themselves PC lies that they were responsible for everything that is wrong.

The MSM repeat Manuel II’s words but turn them on the West.

Show me just what the West brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as its command to stop immigration by the authentic indigenous people of Denmark, England, France, and America, i.e. Muslims from Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, whose ancestors never came from there.[2]

If we don’t want to deport or do worse later, had we not better stop immigration now? Aren’t the MSM and our leaders lying about immigration now to cover up for their past betrayals since 1965? Aren’t they making it worse later to cover up for the past now?

If we hope to assimilate those here, instead of fighting them, shouldn’t we stop immigration now? Which is kinder? Its the truth that the MSM hate. They were responsible for the deaths on 9-11 by their calling Pat Buchanan a bigot at the 1996 Republican Convention.

On 9-11, Peter Jennings and the others couldn’t admit that Pat Buchanan was right in 1996 at the Republican Convention and they were wrong to call him a bigot. Almost 3,000 people died on 9-11 because they made the wrong call in 1996. Thousands have died since in Iraq because of their mistake. They can’t admit they all died because they called Pat Buchanan a bigot in 1996.

Because if they were wrong then, their motives must have been their own bigotry and anti-Americanism. They must have intended immigration all along to take our job, physical and speech security. To admit that is to let us blame them and to give up their strategy. They still want to take away our job, physical and speech security.

That includes Bush after 9-11. He wanted to keep us fearful because he was warned before 9-11. He lied to us then and he is still lying. All the deaths are his fault. He lies to keep from admitting that.

Things will only get worse while we listen to the lies of the MSM. A country can become Lebanon or Iraq or the West Bank. Those lands were better than they were now. But high birth rates by the people in those lands made them unlivable. Those high birth rates caused the most extreme interpretation of Islam to become the norm.

In the 1960’s, women did not walk covered in Lebanon or Iraq or the West Bank. Now they walk that way even in London and America. What does that tell us will happen next here?

If their birth rates caused their lands to become unlivable, what will they do in our lands? When do we speak up for our own survival? Now or when its too late? What will they do to us when they have the power? What they are doing now?

The issue of whether to stop immigration or to deport those who attack us from within or support those who do is an empirical question. The PC MSM make it sound like a moral issue of black and white. To let ourselves be turned into a Baghdad situation is not moral. To let our land become a land of terror and war is not moral.

Moreover, earth’s sustainable population is far below its current population, perhaps 1 billion. If America and Europe became war zones, then earth will miss its chance to reverse with technology the environmental problems. In that case, the human population may go down to 50 million or even zero.

We have an obligation to maintain the human species. This may be the only intelligent species in the universe.

The universe may be wasted if we die out. This may be the only universe. This may be the last best hope of intelligent life in the universe. We can’t let it be turned into a war zone by a PC elite that denies the evidence of buildings burning behind them as they say immigration is not the problem.

Everyone who died has done so for immigration.

Every person who died on 9-11 2001 or in WTC 1993 or in Iraq or Afghanistan, whether Muslim or not, died for immigration. Every person put in prison, every person detained, every person tortured, whether in Iraq or Gitmo or some secret prison sufferred for immigration.

Every person who has been afraid, been searched, been delayed, been subjected to indignity, been offended, can trace that to immigration.

Take away the 1965 Immigration Act and none of it would have happened. There would be no Gitmo. There would be no extraordinary renditions. There would have been no waterboarding. There would have been no Abu Ghraib. There would be no bombing. None of it would have happened.

We keep Gitmo open today to keep immigration going into the future. We have secret prisons to keep immigration going into the future. We have troops in Iraq to keep immigration going into the future. Every death, every maiming, every sacrifice is for immigration.

Teddy Kennedy and the others in 1965 lied about the reasons for the 1965 Immigration Act. They said it wasn’t to change the racial make up, when it explicitly said it was. They lied about it then and their motives. Immigration has always been a lie.

Immigration is a lie today. Immigration is about lies. Everyone being detained in Gitmo today is there for immigration. Everyone dying in Iraq today is dying for immigration.

More people will die with certainty because of what has happened. Our night vision and stealth technology have been stolen by China by immigration.

Middle class job security has been taken by immigration. Good working class jobs with good wages, benefits and job security no longer exist because of immigration. They once were regarded as a right.

Men’s median wages are no higher today in the US than in 1973. This is the intended outcome of the 1965 Immigration Act, and every pro-immigration vote since then. Senators take money for this. Nancy Pelosi has illegals work her vineyards outside San Francisco and she voted against requiring employers of illegals to pay for their hospital costs.

Congress lies about immigration. The Democratic Party is a lie. It says its for the little guy, the poor, the working class and the middle class but they are in fact totally against them. What has taken away the Archie Bunker homestead is the 1965 Immigration Act of the Democratic Party. The truth is they hate Archie Bunker and to get him have hit every middle class and working class person in America.

The intended result of immigration was to take away job security, physical security and speech security. Its accomplished that. All the people who died on 9-11, died and their deaths lied about to cover up that Pat Buchanan was right in 1996 to want to stop immigration completely.

Everything that Bush, McCain, George Will, William Kristol, the 9-11 Commission, Lee Hamilton, Jim Baker, the Iraq Study Group, the Senate, Nancy Pelosi say about all this is a lie. They are covering up their own immigration policies as the root cause of what happened on 9-11 and since then.

Iraq was flip side of Dec 7, 1941 reaction.

On Dec 7, 1941, we were attacked by a foreign navy. We responded by internment and cutting off immigration and then went after them. Even before they were defeated, we relaxed the internment.

On Sep 11, 2001, we were attacked from inside. We didn’t do internment or even slow down immigration, tourism or student visas, even from the countries that attacked us or supported the attack.

Instead, we attacked a country outside ours that didn’t even support the 9-11 attacks. Bush said we had to fight them in Iraq so that Saudis, Pakistanis, etc. wouldn’t fight us here. But he still kept them coming here.

Irrationality and lies not security

Those who deny reality are not interested in our security but their own short term security. Bush and the establishment were covering up their lies about immigration and intentionally causing more deaths here to cover up for their lies. We know they were warned before 9-11, and chose not to warn us.

It was for the same reason. They wouldn’t admit before 9-11 that immigrants were a risk. There would have been a manhunt for the immigrants, which would have led to the question of why they were here.

So their lies led to our deaths. Then they took away our civil rights. So their lies led to our losing our physical and legal security. They also have taken away our job security. Men’s median wages are below what they were in 1973. They lie about immigration’s role in that and try to hide that it happened. Democrats say they are for the poor when they are against them.

You don’t get security from those who lie about the causes of 9-11. They lied before, during and after it. They still are covering up Saudi and Pakistani involvement many believe.

Irrationality and lies are not security. They lead to worse actual outcomes and even bigger lies. Countries can fall apart and become combat zones. Look at Lebanon and Iraq over the last 50 years.

This is now happening here. The real racism is to think we are different. The real racism is to think that we can change the people and give up homogeneity and not have the wars that come from diversity. The real racism is to think diversity causes wars there but won’t here.

Irrationality and lies are not the basis of security. Retirement financial and physical security is not built on lies. It will be far worse than we can let ourselves believe. We see what it will be in Lebanon and Iraq today. That is the future immigration brings us.

That is what the Baker Hamilton Iraq Study Group should have said. They should have said, whatever can be said about Iraq, we have to stop immigration so that it doesn’t happen here.

If they can’t stop diversity killing there with our army there, why should we believe they can stop it here? Do we want our army in our lives? Do we want checkpoints like in Baghdad and the West Bank and Gaza?

The MSM elite will get special treatment, as will Congress. We won’t be able to take sick children to the doctor or hospital, get to work, buy groceries or even have electricity and water. They will laugh at us and lie to us just as they do now.

Future in America will be worse with certainty

If they lie about the past, won’t they lie about the future? The intended result of immigration is to take away job, physical and speech security. So it will.

What will happen in the future will be far worse than 9-11. Suicide bombing will come. That’s what 9-11 was. Its going to come as a norm. Fatwa’s will be prepared and given to order it.
Not mobilized our military

We have not moblized our military to deal with the threats because Bush Sr. lost the 1992 election after his no new taxes pledge. We get no truth from our government.

The first Bush administration used fear to cover up a multitude of crimes after taking office and likely many before.

We are infiltrated

Our society is infiltrated in universities, MSM, Wall Street, defense industries, Silicon valley, etc. by foreign nationals from hostile countries. They gather kompromat and blackmail and bribe our elites to be against us.

Deindustrialization after 9-11 in time of war

After being attacked on 9-11, we have sold companies to foreign countries, invested outside the US, continued low cost imports, seen our automobile companies verge on bankruptcy, invested in a housing boom instead of the weapons and energy independence we need. We have sent our know-how overseas and brought others to our shores to displace and substitute for our own people to learn science, math, engineering, computers and technology.

Our information of all types has been sent outside the country and foreigners brought here, often from hostile lands like Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Iran, etc. to have control of it.

The education, recommendation letters, promotion, admissions, hiring, etc. of Americans is controlled by foreigners from hostile lands including Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Iran, etc. They openly discriminate and make racist comments about the inferiority and laziness of Americans.

MSM, Profs, Govt are Enemy Propaganda Machine

We have abandoned ourselves, our dignity, all sense of loyalty and reason. The truth is told by a few and they are called racists and bigots, even in time of war.

On and after 9-11, the MSM, President, Norman Mineta, praise our enemies ideology and religion, and attack as bigots those who want to stop immigration and tourism into our country at time of war. Our night vision and stealth technology have been taken since then. Our night vision is used by insurgents to kill and maim our troops and our leaders, MSM, profs, etc. say its bigotry to want to stop that and support our troops by keeping it here.

Stop Immigration, Know-how transfer, Self-hate in wartime

The way to do that is to stop immigration, tourism, student visas to our land during time of war. Yet our MSM, profs, leaders, etc. all say that is bigotry. They say to be for ourselves in time of war is bigotry. Their concepts are leftist concepts created by the Soviet Union and Marx to defeat us. They have combined the 19th century anti Western concepts of Marx as an enemy ideology within with Islam as another enemy ideology within. They have made Muslims the highest birth rate group in our society, and say its bigotry to stop their immigration. They are choosing death and say its not. This reflects Marxist hate of the West that is taught in K-12, colleges, and by the MSM and political leaders.

The Commission parrot the same lies and hate. We have few leaders who are for us, and they are called nativists and bigots. We are losing the immigration, demographic and birth rate conflict and the MSM praise it. They fund a third world population bubble that is causing a mass extinction of species. Then they push immigration that makes it worse.

Earth’s population above sustainable level

Earth’s population is far above its sustainable level, i.e. the level that doesn’t cause more species to go extinct than come into existence. The longer this continues, the more species that go extinct, and the lower the sustainable population becomes.

We are on a train to destruction and our leaders ignore it. No one is at the controls of this train as it heads towards desruction. No one is at the controls but death.

Islam was developed in 622 AD, the Dark Ages. It reflected the scarcity and demographic stress of those times. Some think this was caused by a volcano, but whatever the cause the Dark Ages was a time of population decline and stress.

The 19th century was a time of rapid population growth, and demographic stress. This resulted in the genocide of Christians by the Muslims of the Ottoman Empire that started in the 1890’s and has essentially continued in the successor states of that Empire to the present day.

Resurgent Islam is a reflection of the current demographic stress induced by their high birth rate, just as Marxism was a reflection of demographic stress from high birth rates in the 19th century. The toxic fundamentalist Islam of today, far worse than the 1960’s is a reflection of demographic stress.

Earth is crowded. It is far above its sustainable human population level. There are Volterra Predator Prey equations that govern this. However, in our system of equations, instead of a decline in population of each species in proportion, the supporting species go extinct.

This means the sustainable human population level falls. This continues in proportion to the gap between the current population and the sustainable population. But that gap is increasing, because current population goes up and the sustainable population goes down as species go extinct. This just makes more species go extinct, further driving down the sustainable population.

At some point, the current population must reverse course and then go down faster than the sustainable population if it is to meet the sustainable population before the sustainable population reaches zero.

Islam and Latin Leftism driven by population bubble

Islam and self hate Marxism will only get worse until we reach this equilibrium point. Demographic stress will increase as the sustainable population falls from the mass extinction of species underway. This means that ideologies like Islam and self hate Leftism will get worse.

We see this in the hatred of Latin America for America and Europeans. This hatred has become toxically racist towards non native American groups. This reflects the overpopulation of the Americas. The rhetoric of hate from Hispanic groups and Latin American countries is an expression of the same demographic stress as the change in Islam from the 1960’s to the present.

Both will continue to become more extreme, violent and with greater rhetoric of hatred of Americans and Europeans based on race, religion, etc. The reaction of the elites is to increase current population more, and thus to cause extinction of species and thus lower the sustainable population. This increases the gap of current population minus sustainable population.

That increases the extinction of species, and it increases the rhetoric of hatred from Islam and Latin American leftism. We are getting farther and farther away from the 1950’s breathing spell we had. Our leaders think that is automatic. But in fact, it was an extreme aberration. That was the best time ever for the people of the West. Our leaders do everything possible to move away from that, including immigration and the rest of it.

Immigration to the developed world, increases the use of hydrocarbons and other resources faster than any other action. This then causes extinction of species and degrading of earth’s environment. It is the easiest of the bad policies are leaders follow to stop. We must stop immigration totally.

Remover nukes from lands of demographic stress

We must remove all nukes from places of demographic stress, Pakistan, North Korea and incipiently Iran. While battle phase deaths are 200 or even 20,000 this must be done now. We must restore our military. We must do it all in 2 years, denuke North Korea and Pakistan and remove Iran’s nuclear program.

We delayed after 9-11. Time is against us and running out. Our leaders need a WWII sense of urgency, instead of the peace time rhythms of Congress.

Gap of Population minus Sustainable Population drives Islam, Latin Leftism, anti-Westernism, and regional conflict.

Anti-American and anti Western Islam and Latin American Leftism increase as the gap between current population
and sustainable population increases. These combine with immigration to become doctrines of democide and genocide. The West responds with self-hate and aid which make the population gap larger, thus increasing the anti-Western hate. This will result in the extinction of Western populations followed by a collapse of the World population made worse by that extinction to a very low level.

Other advanced populations, including China and Japan and the elites in other countries will also collapse as this population bubble collapses in an implosion. The means to sustain population will then disintegrate, bringing the population even below the long term sustainable level, if a fully functioning advanced world was operating normally.

Just as Islam contributed to this process in the 7th century by attacking the Western superpower, the Eastern Roman Empire, so it contributes to it today. So does Third World Leftism, which also dominates our own institutes of learning, non-profits, NGO’s, the UN, corporations, and the MSM.

The third world blames the West using the terms at hand, Marxism, anti-colonialism or Islam, because it blames the West for anything that goes wrong. Aids arose because the third world population exceeded the sustainable level. This made the 3rd world human population an incubator of new disease. This was the response of the living biosphere to this cause of mass extinction of species. It was an equilibrium response to return the human population to the sustainable level, the level at which it does not cause extinction of other species. The third world blamed this new disease, caused by its own population bubble on the CIA.

In fact, it was the West by giving food aid, vaccinations, etc. that caused the third world population bubble and thus caused aids. The West stopped all the equilibrium mechanisms for population in the third world. The earth then stepped in with a new restoring force to equilibrium, aids.

Gates and Buffet, Sachs and Bono, travel the world making things worse. Immigration makes it worse by importing this population excess into the first world, and which uses energy at higher rates. The do gooders who travel the third world and want to relieve its misery by Western aid are a force against equilibrium.

Their response is to disrupt the equilibrium mechanism that restores current population to the sustainable population level, the level at which humans don’t cause extinction of other species. The Sachs Bono Buffet Gates types are increasing or maintaining the gap between the current population and the sustainable population.

This increases extinction of species and thus lowers the sustainable population. The result is an increase in the hatred of the third world for the first, and the increase of the hatred of immigrant groups from the third world inside the first world.

The result is an increase in radical Islam or radical Latin American Leftism. These operate inside and outside of the West. They result in rumors and a disconnect between reality and perception. They are the “bacteria of stupidity” spread by the NGO’s, left, World Bank, MSM, profs, rock stars, celebrities, movie stars, etc.

The result of this is war. It is war within the West and from outside. Pakistan, North Korea, Iran, etc. search for nuclear weapons. Unlike the 1950’s, this is at a time of extreme demographic stress. That results in a disconnect between actions and reality. Thus these weapons will be used.

The 1950’s was a time of mathematical analysis of mutual assured destruction between two stable societies. Now we are at a time of an unsustainable population bubble. That causes the third world to operate outside the reality zone. It also causes them to seek a new morality of global conquest and jihad, whether in Islam or Latin American Reconquista Leftism. This will be from within and without.

MAD doesn’t work with demographic stress

Mutual assured destruction doesn’t work when one side is motivated by demographic stress, denial of reality and hate of the West. We can’t rely on MAD because it doesn’t apply to the situation. They view their population as unsustainable and excess themselves. If they trade some of their people for us, they view it as win win.

Equivalents of anti-Americanism will operate in Russia and China. The Litvinenko killing is the sort of madness killing miscalculation that will happen, but on a small scale. Its easier to understand than 9-11, but reflects the same underlying math.

In either case, the result is war, immigration, conflict, hatred, and racism on a toxic level. This is not assimilation. This is war for extinction based on extreme demographic induced hysteria and hatred. There is no reasoning with human populations in the grip of demographic stress and a population bubble. There is only the movement to the most extreme ideologies of hate and the using of all weapons available, including nuclear, birth rate, immigration, discrimination, crime, etc.

As the gap between current population and sustainable population increases, the gap between reality and perception increases as well. The result can only be the piercing of the population bubble in a cataclysmic process of destruction. This will be through and by anti-Western Latin American Leftism, extreme Islam, etc.

This article represents hypotheses, speculation, and opinion. All other disclaimers apply.

Christians and Jews in Turkey in 20th Century

November 28, 2006

New York Times articles reported the Turkish genocide on November 12 1914 and January 11, and January 13, 1915. Pdf of NY Times articles.

From January 13, 1915 New York Times:

“Talaat Bey, the Minister of the Interior, has stated to the Councillor of the Greek Patriarchate that in Turkey henceforth there will be room only for Turks. While he was profuse in assurance to the Greek Minister regarding the cessation of anti- Greek persecutions, no real amelioration of the situation is perceptible.”

Now the Turkish government is “profuse in its assurances” to the EU, the Pope, and to those stout defenders of Americans and Christians, C. Rice and George Bush that they have stopped anti-Christian persecutions. This is because there are so few Christians to persecute, that it hardly counts compared to the numbers before?

New York Times coverage of September 11, 2001.

9-11 Report and articles

9-11 5 years later

NY Times 1914, 1915 repeat of above link

bin Laden’s 1996 Fatwa and Declaration of War on America.

“The latest and the greatest of these aggressions, incurred by the Muslims since the death of the Prophet (ALLAH’S BLESSING AND SALUTATIONS ON HIM) is the occupation of the land of the two Holy Places -the foundation of the house of Islam, the place of the revelation, the source of the message and the place of the noble Ka’ba, the Qiblah of all Muslims- by the armies of the American Crusaders and their allies.”

Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose.

Is this now true of France, Denmark, London, Dearborn, Washington, etc?

“…no real amelioration of the situation is perceptible.”

That is care of Bush, Blair, Rice, 9-11 Commission of Hamilton Kean, the Iraq Study Group of Baker Hamilton, Democrats, Republicans, MSM, profs, etc.

“…no real amelioration of the situation is perceptible.”

For Christians in Turkey from 1914 to the 2006 Pope Visit.

For the West after 9-11.

Population of Anatolia 1915 before Genocide Ottoman Official records

Muslims were 5.6 million, total population was 9.1 million. So 3.5 million were non-Muslim. So the genocides or suppression of Christians, Jews and others by the Muslims was really about getting rid of about 40 percent of the population.

Genocide is about getting rid of the people, if we can coin a Yogi Berraism. The Muslims wanted to get rid of 40 percent of the population. This was to take the land, houses, businesses, and money of the victims.

It was a delayed completion of the conquests in previous centuries.

According to the following source, the Muslims killed 3.5 to 4.3 million Christians between 1900 and 1923 in Turkey.

Statistics Of Turkey’s Democide Estimates, Calculations, And Sources” By R.J. Rummel.
Demographics of Turkey

Christian Genocide Minor Asia webpage

Reference on 1942 Tax Law

Unpleasant Genocide Arithmetic

If the population is stable and one group is given an advantage so that its net growth rate is higher than a second group, then the second group will go extinct.


In equilibrium the average growth rate is zero. So if one group is above the other in growth rate, it must be above zero and the second group must be below zero. So the second group goes extinct.

Islam is about giving its members advantage over others. So over time Islam is genocide of non-Muslims. Islam was developed in 622 AD when times were hard. This was the Dark Ages. Some think a volcano was responsible for it, but it was a harsh time of scarcity. Islam was designed to give its members a leg up in that time of scarcity over non-Muslims. So Islam is a religion of genocide in population biology terms.

search Christians Turkey 1914

ISHR Christians in Turkey

Holy Land Foundation shut down after 9-11.

Comments at


Second article quotations below. (first article is also interesting on confiscations of non Muslim foundations in Turkey. They still haven’t returned them as required by the EU.)

“September 5, 2005

by Cathy Phillips, editor of Tax Notes International ”

“On the morning of November 12, 1942, the citizens of Turkey woke up to the most draconian wealth tax ever envisaged. While the tax in theory applied to the entire predominantly Muslim nation, in practice much of its burden rested with the minority Christian and Jewish communities who primarily resided in Istanbul, formerly known as Constantinople. Neither the rate of taxation nor the taxable base and its derivation were made public.”

“Tax assessments were arrived at in secret, and individuals were directed to settle their government assessed liabilities within two weeks, without any appeal provisions in place. The penalty for Christians and Jews who failed to do so within a month was deportation to forced labor camps in eastern Turkey in addition to having their property confiscated. The tax was initially also extended to Christian and Jewish schools, as well as to churches and synagogues, but not to Muslim institutions, because they were owned or funded by the government.”

Formatting of tables is better in the original.

” Table 1: Statutory Tax Rates

Provision Applied to Applied to
Rate on wartime profit Muslim Turks Non-Muslims
12.5 percent 50.0 percent
Additional tax zero Up to 50 percent of personal wealth

Source: Faik Okte, The Tragedy of the Turkish Capital Tax.”

“In an otherwise officially secular state, taxpayers were classified as Muslim and non-Muslim, denoted with the letters M and G, respectively./2/ The latter included Jews and Christians, including Armenians and Greeks. Assyrian Orthodox Christians also fell in that class. An additional class of taxpayers were the Donme, denoted by D. The Donme were Jews whose ancestors had converted to Islam in the 17th century./3/ Like the Jews and Christians, the Donme were taxed at rates higher than those that applied to Muslims.”

“able 3: Tax Assessments of Minority Institutions

Christian and Jewish Institutions/*/ Number Assessment (TRL)
Schools 88 227,550
Churches and Synagogues 27 119,200
Hospitals 7 86,750

/*/ Zero assessment for Muslim institutions, which numbered in the thousands.

Source: Faik Okte, The Tragedy of the Turkish Capital Tax.”

“Table 4: Effective Tax Rates by Religious and Ethnic Affiliations

Merchants by Affiliation Tax Rates (percent)
Muslim 4.94
Greek Orthodox 156.00
Jewish 179.00
Christian Armenian 232.00

Source: C.L. Sulzberger, “Turkish Tax Kills Foreign Business,”
The New York Times, Sept. 11, 1943.”

Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 28, 2006 08:07 AM

Reference on above 1942 Tax Law

Population of Anatolia 1915 before Genocide Ottoman Official records

Muslims were 5.6 million, total population was 9.1 million. So 3.5 million were non-Muslim. So the genocides or suppression of Christians, Jews and others by the Muslims was really about getting rid of them.

It was a delayed completion of the conquests in previous centuries.
Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 28, 2006 08:36 AM..

New York Times coverage of September 11, 2001.

9-11 Report and articles

9-11 5 years later

NY Times 1914, 1915 repeat of above link

Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose.

bin Laden’s Fatwa compared to Talaat Bey in 1914 saying Turkey for Turks only.

bin Laden’s 1996 Fatwa and Delcaration of War against America.

“The latest and the greatest of these aggressions, incurred by the Muslims since the death of the Prophet (ALLAH’S BLESSING AND SALUTATIONS ON HIM) is the occupation of the land of the two Holy Places -the foundation of the house of Islam, the place of the revelation, the source of the message and the place of the noble Ka’ba, the Qiblah of all Muslims- by the armies of the American Crusaders and their allies.”

Repeat of

From January 13, 1915 New York Times:

“Talaat Bey, the Minister of the Interior, has stated to the Councillor of the Greek Patriarchate that in Turkey henceforth there will be room only for Turks. While he was profuse in assurance to the Greek Minister regarding the cessation of anti-Greek persecutions, no real amelioration of the situation is perceptible.”

Is this now true of France, Denmark, London, Dearborn, Washington, etc?

“…no real amelioration of the situation is perceptible.”

That is care of Bush, Blair, Rice, 9-11 Commission of Hamilton Kean, the Iraq Study Group of Baker Hamilton, Democrats, Republicans, MSM, profs, etc.

Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 28, 2006 10:22 AM


With respect to my colleague Limes in this case, sometimes you can extrapolate. “Mathematical models might be useful five or ten years out, but don’t extrapolate decades into the future. The unsustainable never is.”

98 percent of Turkey is Muslim today

Ottoman Empire 40 percent Christian 1915

So the Christian population went from 40 percent in 1915 to less than 2 percent today.

So with respect to my colleague, what turned out to be unsustainable in Turkey was Christian life.

“On December 21, 1995, Bethlehem became one of the areas under the full control of the Palestinian Authority. It is capital of the Bethlehem district. The current population of the town is about 40,000. The Christian population is no longer the majority, but a special statute requires that the mayor and a majority of the municipal council must nevertheless be Christian.”

“Bethlehem’s former mayor, Hanna Nasser, says an estimated 2,000 Christians in Bethlehem have emigrated during the period of 2000 – 2003. Fifty years ago, Bethlehem was overwhelmingly Christian. Today, it has a Muslim majority.”

Bethlehem wiki
There is a need to understand the genocides and forced deportations against Christians and Jews in the entire Middle East in the 20th and 21s centuries.


Posted by: Arnie [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 28, 2006 10:44 AM The above is from CNN and the gentle lady from Lebanon, a Chrisian, tells how Hezbollah is taking over. They have large families, drive out the Christians to take their lands for their families and then vote themselves in power. Terrorists are in the government of Lebanon, which was once Christian.

This is what happens. It is happening in America, England, Denmark, France, Germany , Norway, Russia, Spain, Sweden, etc.

This is happening to us now. We must stop immigration. Critics say, it hasn’t happened to us already. Then when it does, if they were here, they would say its too late to do anything. This is what they say about immigration, and nukes in North Korea, Pakistan and Iran. They will let Saudi Arabia and UAE get nukes. They let Russia and China get nukes and the left even gave them the secrets.

They invented Mutual Assured Destruction after the fact to make it sound logical. This was to cover up betrayal. The Ph.D.’s at RAND who made up MAD were covering up the espionage by Russia still going on.

The people justifying nukes for Pakistan, Iran and North Korea today are the same leftists anti-Westerners who covered up communist subversion in the 1940’s and 1950’s and let Russia get the bomb. They said it was ok, it was MAD. Russia will be 50 percent Muslim in 50 years or less.

When they use those nukes on us, will it have made sense to have let Russia get nukes in the 1940’s? The professors lied and betrayed us in the 1940’s just as they do today. Harvard, Princeton, University of Chicago, Berkeley, Stanford, Yale, etc. were covering up espionage then and are betraying us now.

The Christians in Turkey went from 40 percent in 1915 to 2 percent or less in 2006. This is what happens when we listen to the liars and West haters on the Left. We have to fight, not let our politicians, profs and MSM betray us. They can’t think beyond today’s headline. We must. We must act. We must tell them to stop immigration totally. We must denuke NoKo and Pakistan and stop it in Iran and Saudi Arabia. These are enemy homelands funding invasion of us by immigration.

This is real. This is what history is. Civilizations fall. Ethnic groups go extinct. You either face up to reality and do something about it or you disappear from the planet. That is what the Left has wanted since Marx.

We need to stop immigration, give our young adults economic security from no immigration and let them get married, have big families and stay married. That comes from job security. Job security comes from no immigration.

Immigration was started in Europe in the 1950’s. In the US in 1965. In both cases, it killed job security for the young. In both cases it brought the population rate below replacement We need to support young adults with job security and end every type of immigration. This includes H1B, family reunification, asylum, etc.

We need to stop the genocide of Christians in Lebanon and the Middle East and support them. We need to say that this genocide of Christians is what Islam is about from the beginning and is now. Islam was an ideology developed in 622 AD during the Dark Ages to justify taking Christian lands and subjugating them so that their population would decline over time.

Now Islam is on the march again, during a time of demographic stress created by their own birth rates. Their birth rates make their lands unlivable so they have to invade ours. We do nothing but allow it. The Left and the betrayers like McCain, Kennedy, Bush, etc. want this to happen to us. They lied during the 1965 Immigration Act and said it wouldn’t change anything. They lied then and lie now. They want our demographic democide. They work for it and lie to our faces.

Democide happened in Turkey. The Christians went from 40 percent in 1915 to under 2 percent in 2006. This is happening now in the US and Europe. Its reality. We must stop immigration now. This includes family reunification, lottery, waiting in line, etc.

Robert Spencer Jihad Watch: Pope Rage in Istanbul Comments

Limes and Malinois are right, if we respond. If we wait for the invisible hand to stop immigration completely, not just a token amount, then it will happen.

We have to be politically active. We have to persuade. We have to write to Congressman and Senators. It doesn’t happen by itself.

Once we project our exctinction, and anticipate it will happen if we don’t change, then we still have to act based on that expectation. If no change means we go extinct, and we don’t actually change it, then we do go extinct.

Immigration causes extinction of all the genes in a country, and on a rolling basis every annual cohort of immigrants.

Unpleasant Immigration Arithmetic

and more at this search on “Unpleasant Immigration Arithmetic”

We also have to denuke Pakistan and Iran, and support the Christians in Lebanon, Africa, etc.

Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 28, 2006 11:53 AM

“Unpleasant Immigration Arithmetic” is a mathematical theorem. If the assumption of sustained immigration is true, the consequence that genes go extinct follows. This applies to everyone here, and everyone who comes in any given year.

Each cohort of everyone here, including those newly arrived, has its genetic survival ratio asymptote to zero if immigration continues.

To avoid the consequences of the mathematical theorem, the assumption has to be completely avoided. Reducing immigration doesn’t avoid the assumption. Immigration has to be zero. Close doesn’t work. Its a theorem.

Limes and Malinois have said if we change things, the consequences won’t happen that will happen if we don’t change them. But we have to actually change immigration to zero, not just reduce it a lot.

Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 28, 2006 12:48 PM



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