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Talking Points Against: H.R. 1645 Flake-Gutierrez Amnesty STRIVE Act

May 13, 2007

Call your Senator Monday May 14, 2007. The Senate is brokering an amnesty expanded guest worker, family reunification anchor baby busting bill. Be polite but firm. No legalization of any kind. No guest worker, and eliminate current guest worker. Pause in all legal immigration. End family reunification. No asylum from anywhere. No restart of legal immigration without a national referendum. Point out this is one of the few votes that people remember.

==S 2611 Home page:

How your Senator voted for S. 2611 you can look up here. Know this and bring it up. Its important they know this is a vote you remember.

Grouped By Vote Position

YEAs —62
Akaka (D-HI) Baucus (D-MT) Bayh (D-IN) Bennett (R-UT) Biden (D-DE) Bingaman (D-NM) Boxer (D-CA) Brownback (R-KS) Cantwell (D-WA) Carper (D-DE) Chafee (R-RI)
Clinton (D-NY) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Craig (R-ID) Dayton (D-MN) DeWine (R-OH) Dodd (D-CT) Domenici (R-NM) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA) Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Harkin (D-IA) Inouye (D-HI) Jeffords (I-VT) Johnson (D-SD) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Kohl (D-WI) Landrieu (D-LA) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (D-CT) Lincoln (D-AR) Lugar (R-IN) Martinez (R-FL) McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Menendez (D-NJ) Mikulski (D-MD) Murkowski (R-AK) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Obama (D-IL) Pryor (D-AR) Reed (D-RI) Reid (D-NV) Sarbanes (D-MD) Schumer (D-NY) Smith (R-OR) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA) Stevens (R-AK) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA) Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs —36
Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Allen (R-VA) Bond (R-MO) Bunning (R-KY) Burns (R-MT) Burr (R-NC) Byrd (D-WV) Chambliss (R-GA) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS) Cornyn (R-TX) Crapo (R-ID) DeMint (R-SC) Dole (R-NC) Dorgan (D-ND) Ensign (R-NV) Enzi (R-WY) Grassley (R-IA) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Isakson (R-GA) Kyl (R-AZ) Lott (R-MS) Nelson (D-NE) Roberts (R-KS) Santorum (R-PA) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Stabenow (D-MI) Sununu (R-NH) Talent (R-MO) Thomas (R-WY) Thune (R-SD) Vitter (R-LA)

Not Voting – 2

Rockefeller (D-WV) Salazar (D-CO)

==Some questions to ask them

How many calls for amnesty how many against

How many callers for guest worker how many against

How many callers for H-1B against


Search Flake Gutierrez


James Fulford

H.R. 1645, the Security Through Regularized Immigration and a Vibrant Economy (STRIVE) Act — introduced in the House of Representatives on March 22, 2007 by Rep. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) and Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL).

March 26, 2007
Call It Treason: Flake-Gutierrez Bill Immigration Insanity And Merger With Mexico
By Juan Mann

GPO Version of Bill 1.8MB 697 Pages.


Analysis Of Flake-Gutierrez

(Following go to their website)

1. Mass Amnesty
2. Dramatic Increase in Legal Immigration
3. Hundreds of thousands of “new” workers each year
4. “Tough” Enforcement Provisions? Hardly
5. “Tough” Electronic Employment Verification? Hardly
6. Certification of Border Security? Not really


  • The American people overwhelmingly reject increased levels of legal immigration, which are already at about 1 million persons every year. However, the Flake-Gutierrez bill will likely double legal immigration levels at the least. A very conservative estimate puts the bill’s increase at about 700,000 additional green cards a year – as family preference green cards increase by a quarter million a year, employment-based green cards increase by 150,000, and an unlimited number of green cards are provided for spouses and children of employment-based immigrants (currently, about one dependent accompanies each such immigrant). However, the actual increase will likely be dramatically higher. Why? The bill creates additional categories with unlimited numbers of green cards available each year – such as for foreign workers who will work in any occupation the Secretary of Labor declares has a shortage of workers, and for many foreign workers with graduate degrees. (sections 501, 508) In addition, the bill allows any alien already in the U.S. on a temporary visa who ends up on an employment-based green card waiting list because the cap has been reached to stay and work in the U.S. for however long it takes for a green card to become available – which would have the practical effect of making any employment-based cap illusory. (section 511)
  • The quota for H-1B temporary visas for professional workers increases from 65,000 to a maximum of 180,000 a year. In addition, all aliens with graduate degrees from U.S. universities are exempt from the quota, as are all aliens with foreign graduate degrees in math or science fields. This will have the effect of doubling the quota to about 360,000 a year, since about half of all H-1B aliens have graduate degrees. (section 507)

Currently, the President decides each year on the number of refugees to allow into the U.S. who we have determined have a well founded fear of persecution. The Flake-Gutierrez bill gives non-U.S. organizations the absolute right to send a potentially limitless number of persons to the U.S. Foreign organizations will be able to direct to the U.S. government most any woman anywhere in the world who has a “credible fear of harm related to her sex” – and we will have no choice but to accept them. This standard is so low that conceivably every women in the 3rd World will have an absolute right to come to the U.S. No showing of persecution is necessary. Similar rights are granted any alien under 18 who has a “credible fear of harm related to his or her age”. This standard is so low that conceivably every minor in the 3rd World will have an absolute right to come to the U.S. (section 517)
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  • The Flake-Gutierrez bill allows 400,000 “new workers” plus an unlimited number of spouses and minor children to come to the U.S. in the first year, and that figure can easily reach 600,000 (plus spouses and minor children) in future years. The foreign workers can stay for up to six years. The workers’ employers can apply for green cards for them at any time, and the workers can apply on their own after having worked in the program for five years. Once the green card applications are filed, the workers can stay and work as long as it takes for a green card to become available. Thus, there could be many millions of these foreign workers and their families in the country at any one time in the future. (sections 401, 407)
  • The bill allows former illegal immigrants and aliens who have been previously removed to become “new” workers. (section 402)

Employers are specifically allowed to lay-off American workers and replace them with “new” foreign workers as long as they lay-off the Americans more than 90 days before or after they file the petitions for the foreign workers. (section 402)
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Press Release of Senator Sessions

Sessions Critiques New House Immigration Bill

Thursday, March 22, 2007

Sessions Critiques New House Immigration Bill

WASHINGTON – U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) today issued the following statement concerning introduction of an immigration bill by U.S. Reps. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) and Luis Gutierrez (D-IL):

“The legislation introduced today by Reps. Flake and Gutierrez is not an acceptable foundation for this year’s immigration reform efforts. Many of their ideas are modeled on provisions contained in the fatally flawed Senate immigration bill from last Congress. Just like the failed Senate bill, the Flake-Gutierrez bill dramatically increases permanent immigration levels, contains a guaranteed path to citizenship for the illegal alien population and creates a new “temporary” worker program that is anything but temporary. All of these ideas failed to gain enough support to become law during the last Congress.

“We can treat the illegal alien population compassionately without placing them on an automatic path to citizenship, and we can create a temporary worker program that is truly temporary.

“It is an undeniable fact that more people want to come to the United States than we can accept. If members of the illegal alien population or future foreign workers want to apply for green cards, they should have to compete for them in a merit-based system – one that lets people all over the world apply to come here under the same set of rules.

“I am disappointed in the Flake-Gutierrez proposal. However, I am still hopeful that we can pass an immigration bill this Congress.”

Specifically, the Flake-Gutierrez proposal:

• Dramatically increases annual permanent immigration levels: The Flake-Gutierrez bill escalates the numerical caps on green cards, supposedly for the purpose of “reducing backlogs” and allowing more high skilled workers to come to and remain in the U.S.

• Puts the illegal alien population on a path to citizenship: The bill will grant “conditional status” to members of the illegal alien population for six years, allowing them to live and work in the United States and to freely travel back and forth across the border. After six years, if they have “touched back” across the border, they will be eligible for legal permanent residence, likely outside of any numerical caps. Legal permanent residents are all eligible for citizenship.

• Creates a “temporary” worker program that is not temporary: Bill sponsors claim that the bill creates a “temporary” worker program. However, just like it was last year, this label is a misnomer. In reality, the program is a new low-skilled permanent immigration program for at least 400,000 new foreign workers and their families per year. Workers and their families will stay for three years, renew their status for another three years and then be able to apply for green cards. In just the first six years, if workers brings a single family member with them, the bill’s “temporary” program will result in 4,800,000 new low-skilled immigrants living in the United States on a path to permanent residence and citizenship.

==End Press Release Senator Sessions

See also:
Call Your Senator No Amnesty: Talking Points HUTCHISON-PENCE PLAN

On May 14 Call Senator John Warner VA to vote against Amnesty


Call Your Senator No Amnesty: Talking Points HUTCHISON-PENCE PLAN

May 12, 2007

Call your senator Monday May 14, 2007 to say no amnesty. This article discusses what to say if they bring up the HUTCHISON-PENCE PLAN from 2006. The Senate is negotiating an amnesty legalization guest worker expanded legal immigration plan behind closed doors. To throw you off, they have had staffers talk up the Hutchinson Pence plan from last year.

(A very good analysis of Flake-Gutierrez is here)

From View From the Right, Lawrence Auster:

“Time to start calling our senators Paul Nachman”

Charles T. writes:

The Senate staffer I talked with was pleasant, informed, and actually discussed the issue with me–unlike so many other staffers who are not in the know.

He pointed to the Hutchison-Pence immigration bill being touted as bridging the divide in the Republican party on this issue. Summarizing, the bill allows for 1) security measures at the border , 2) SELF–DEPORTATION of illegal immigrants to their home countries over a two year period, 3) then the process of applying to work in the US for a specified amount of time, complete with tamper proof ID cards, and a long 17 year path to citizenship.

The tone changed slightly when the staffer said emphatically that agricultural and construction concerns were telling the senator they could not fill the jobs in their respective industries. I pointed out that the jobs would be filled if the various industries would pay their American workers a fair wage and that these industries wanted and hired low priced alien labor.

Summary of HP here:

After border-security strategies are fully in effect and functional, the bill would allow for the Bush-backed guest-worker and employment-verification programs to be implemented.

The government would authorize designated employment services to fill specific job openings with foreign workers from Canada, Mexico and Central American countries that participate in U.S. trade pacts.

Hutchison Pence thus contains a guest worker program. Some Senators such as Jim Webb promised they would vote against any guest worker program. If you live in Virginia, call Jim Webb’s office and tell them you want to hold him to his promise to vote against any bill with guest worker provisions.

July 26, 2006
The Hutchison-Pence Morph: Millions More Mexicans!
By Bryanna Bevens
Immigration Proposal Aims to Bridge Republican Divide

By Jim VandeHei and Charles Babington
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, July 25, 2006; 12:02 PM

allow most of the 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States a chance to work here legally, but only after the government certifies that U.S. borders have been sufficiently secured.

Objection to this:

  1. Illegal and legal Mexican drunk drivers have very high blood alcohol levels and kill Americans. See photo: Tessa Tranchant, 16, left, and Allison Kunhardt, 17, Virginia Beach Teens Killed at Intersection
    [Brenda Walker] Vdare
  2. If its really 11 million, why don’t they put a cap at 11 million, first come, first served?
  3. the 1986 Amnesty resulted in more people getting amnesty than predicted. If they had capped it numerically, that would not have happened.
  4. More people came after the amnesty as illegals because of this amnesty, in fact all the ones now to be amnestied.
  5. How do they have the manpower to check who these people are?
  6. How do they screen out criminals?
  7. What about terrorists?
  8. The Fort Dix Six included illegals. Wouldn’t the Pence Hutchison plan have legalized them?
  9. If they go back to Pakistan, as part of the Pence plan, and then come back here, doesn’t that give them a chance to attend a terrorist training camp? If we do nothing, they can’t leave the country and get terrorist training and come back without having to sneak back in. Aren’t we better off making them stay here illegally then forcing them to go back to Pakistan where they get terrorist training and meet with al Qaeda, the Taliban and even elements of Pakistan’s ISI?
  10. How do they go onto Islamberg to check it out?
  11. Male migrant workers brought their wives and/or children and had kids here and flooded the LA school system, shutting down its ability to provide a good education and causing extreme gang warfare.
  12. Mexican gangs have put out a green light for gang members to shoot any black in LA county on sight, man, woman or child, they don’t have to be a black gang member. This is from Southern Poverty Law Center, an otherwise left wing group that labels those for immigration restriction as bigots, racists, or hate groups.


Islamberg, New York: “You can hear gunfire up there. I can’t understand why the FBI won’t shut it down” from Jihad Watch

Paul Williams report in Canada Free Press: Islamberg is a branch of Muslims of the Americas Inc., a tax-exempt organization formed in 1980 by Pakistani cleric Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani, who refers to himself as “the sixth Sultan Ul Faqr,” Gilani, has been directly linked by court documents to Jamaat ul-Fuqra or “community of the impoverished,” an organization that seeks to “purify” Islam through violence.

Though primarily based in Lahore, Pakistan, Jamaat ul-Fuqra has operational headquarters in New York and openly recruits through various social service organizations in the U.S., including the prison system. Members live in hamaats or compounds, such as Islamberg, where they agree to abide by the laws of Jamaat ul-Fuqra, which are considered to be above local, state and federal authority. Additional hamaats have been established in Hyattsville, Maryland; Red House, Virginia; Falls Church, Virginia; Macon, Georgia; York, South Carolina; Dover, Tennessee; Buena Vista, Colorado; Talihina, Oklahoma; Tulane Country, California; Commerce, California; and Onalaska, Washington. Others are being built, including an expansive facility in Sherman, Pennsylvania.

Look up your state impact statement at


Does the Chinese Intelligence Service write the H-1B worker provisions it wants and academic regulations it wants, unlimited H-1B, and then get its profs at US universities to forward them to US interest groups who then give them to staffers on their side, who put them in the bill, and then its voted on, and the only people who have read it completely and understood it before its voted on are the Chinese intelligence service employees who wrote it in the first place?

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