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Jeffrey A Taylor US Attorney plays dirty?

August 1, 2008

On July 12, 2008 I posted criticism of US Attorney Jeffrey A. Taylor on my blog. On July 15, my regular email account started rerouting messages to name@isp where name was my actual last name instead of username@isp where username was some initials. (I think I found the problem, but I will leave this up anyhow, because I think it has a certain fit and otherwise has some interesting information.)

Probably a random glitch. That’s my main theory for now. But just in case its a nasty National Security Letter (NSL) or something like that I thought I would memorialize these thoughts for future reference.

Was that you Jeff? Didn’t like the criticism? If you can’t stand the criticism stay out of the Bush activity. If its you Jeff, could you make sure they fix it?

Jeffrey Taylor is part of the Bush inner circle at DOJ. He was appointed US Attorney for DC without Senate approval by using a loophole Bush put into the Patriot Act, showing they intended it before 9/11.

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/jeffrey-a-taylor-6-months-8-days-obama-doj/

If it is Taylor, what might the mighty Taylor be after?

Whether I am communicating with Congress and members of Congress who want to impeach Bush? It turns out my local Congressman is in favor of that. Yes, Jeff, I do think your email reading habits should be questioned by Congress.

Does he want to know if I am communicating with Assistant US Attorney Sara Bloom via my email account? I discussed that the Bush DOJ might be intimidating her from investigating the Russia Plagiarism Files issue and whether Bush used that as leverage over Gore and Clinton during Bush v. Gore. Taylor may be part of that group give his history as discussed on the July 15, 2008 post. See here:

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/the-right-way-to-manage-us-attorneys/
Does he want to know if I am communicating with journalists as well as Assistant US Attorney Sara Bloom over the Russia Plagiarism Files?

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/russias-plagiarism-files/

Over the India Nuclear Deal? That is, is India using this history to pressure Bush? They could tell somethings to the US Attorney Office Mass. Ed Markey might be interested in that too.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-ed-markey/giving-away-the-farm-bus_b_16718.html

July 10, 2008 posted at Markey’s webpage on India nuclear deal:

http://markey.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3409&Itemid=141

How India might be using kompromat to get our nuclear know-how from Bush is discussed here:

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/category/india-nuclear-deal/

Just asking. Of course, it could be just a glitch. If its you Jeff, can you get them to do something about the spam? Some spam goes to my inbox instead of my spam box. Just mention it to them when you have a chance.

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/dc/US_Attorney/index.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_A._Taylor

Also, Jeff, please don’t go around to archives and have records disappear. That isn’t a nice thing to do.

The above is draft, preliminary, and subject to revision. Hopefully, its overactive imagination, because Jeff Taylor seems like a guy who doesn’t play fair and has the sense of humor that laughs when squishing bugs. Comments and corrections welcome. All other disclaimers apply.

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India Data Mine All in the Singh Family?

October 23, 2007

India’s Prime Minister spent his time before being P.M. data mining and reverse engineering Russia’s plagiarism files in economics and their use at IMF and World Bank? Now his daughter at ACLU data mines information about Bush and torture? People in our government give her information at the ACLU trusting her as if she was from Little Rock Ark? But she is really from so far away:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amrit_Singh

“Amrit Singh is a staff attorney at the ACLU. She is the youngest daughter of Manmohan Singh, the Prime Minister of India. She has fought for the release of thousands of documents under the Freedom of Information Act. She has also investigated allegations of torture at American prisons in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay.”

India’s PM Manmohan Singh wants a nuclear deal on its terms from Bush. His daughter is investigating Bush using the resources of the ACLU at the same time. You have to be carefully taught to do data mining on our friends, because they do it on us.

http://www.aclu.org/about/staff/administrationoftorture.html

Prior to joining the ACLU, she served as a law clerk to the Hon. Miriam Goldman Cedarbaum, United States District Court for the Southern District of New York. Singh is a graduate of Cambridge University, Oxford University, and Yale Law School.

Why is the daughter of a future Prime Minister of a foreign country who comes here allowed to clerk at a US federal court? Did she get a security clearance? Was papa Singh involved with Russia in intelligence work at least reverse engineering it? What year was that? Who in the US government or at Yale economics department or law school knew that this was happening?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miriam_Goldman_Cedarbaum

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/General_claims_Bush_gave_marching_orders_1022.html

Breyer had a clerk from Sri Lanka. Do we really want people from outside the U.S. to have our inner secrets as law clerks in federal courts? Do we want them to know the details of evidence and motions not revealed to the public that is under seal?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh

==From previous article

For example, Manmohan Singh, PM of India. Parts of his bio were taken off relating to his experience going to the Soviet Union in 1980’s, etc. Singh gave a speech at Moscow State University indicating knowledge of some of the above and of the cases in econ.

Singh helps balance Pakistan’s knowledge of this at IMF and World Bank. Pakistan had a VP at World Bank and Shaukat Aziz at Citicorp and they know of the kompromat issues used over the decades at IMF and World Bank because of profs there. This is speculation, as are the other posts.

==Following from another OA article. Note that Moscow State University profs in math and physics do analysis of plagiarism in physics, math, economics, finance, business, etc. in the U.S. for use by Russian intelligence.

An excerpt was removed from wiki from Singh’s bio from his cv.

A version of wiki that has this is from August 2006. Someone took out the parts indicating his possible cooperation or observation of the Soviets and his work at IMF and World Bank for India where he likely had access to files on academic misconduct of US profs and Russia’s files on them. His speech at Moscow State University on Dec 5, 2005 indicates his knowledge. Notice he mentions Kapitza. This gave him leverage over Bush and Senator Hatch and others to get the India nuclear deal moving forward.

“It is not surprising that your university should have produced great Nobel laureates like Nikolai Semionov, Igor Tamm, Ilia Frank, Leo Landau and Pyotr Kapitza.”

Tamm Dancoff was one of the things the Russians complained off in their own publications in 1955 as overreaching by Oppenheimer protege Dancoff.

“As a student of economics I have admired the work of such great Russian economists as the Nobel Laureates, Wassily Leontief and Leonid Kantorovich.”

Leontief was accused of plagiarism by Vainshtein of USSR in 1969-70 issue of Matekon. Kantorovich got Nobel Prize nominations from prior winners possibly including math econ winners Arrow and Samuelson, the uncles of Larry Summers. Samuelson was on Fischer’s Ph.D. at MIT and on Merton’s. Samuelson got an NSF grant for one of the 1969 papers and supervised Merton to get another NSF grant for another 1969 paper involved in the MIT incident. Its these two papers that Stanley Fischer credits in his 1989 textbook and not Hakansson at all.

India knew of the plagiarism by Dirac with Fowler’s help of Max Born from the 1930’s from Bhabha. Bhabha was in the UK from 1927 to 1939, much of it at Cambridge where the Dirac Fowler plagiarism happened. Bhabha was head of India’s nuclear program.

The excerpt of Singh’s bio removed from wiki:

OTHER ASSIGNMENTS
  Leader of the Indian delegation to the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting, Cyprus (1993)
 

Leader of the Indian delegation to the Human Rights World Conference, Vienna (1993)

  Governor of India on the Board of Governors of the IMF and the International Bank of Reconstruction & Development (1991-95)
  Appointed by Prime Minister of India as Member, Economic Advisory Council to the Prime Minister (1983-84)
  Chairman, India Committee of the Indo-japan ;Joint Study Committee (1980-83)
   
  Leader, Indian Delegation to :
   
  Indo-Soviet Monitoring Group Meeting (1982)
  Indo-Soviet Joint Planning Group Meeting (1980-82)
  Aid India Consortium Meetings (1977-79)
   
  Member Indian Delegation to :
   
  South-South Consultation, New Delhi (1982)
  Cancun Summit on North-South Issues (1981)
  Aid-India Consortium Meetings, Paris (1973-79)
  Annual Meetings of IMF, IBRD & Commonwealth
Finance Ministers (1972-79)
  Third Session of UNCTAD, Santiago (April-May 1972)
  Meetings of UNCTAD Trade & Development Board,
Geneva (May 1971 – July 1972)
  Ministerial Meeting of Group of 77, Lima (Oct.1971)
  – Deputy for India on IMF Committee of Twenty on
International Monetary Reform (1972 – 74)
  – Associate, Meetings of IMF Interim Committee and Joint
Fund-Bank Development Committee (1976-80, 1982-85)
  Alternate Governor for India, Board of Governors of
IBRD (1976-80)
  Alternate Governor for India, Board of Governors of the
IMF (1982-85)
  Alternate Governor for India, Board of Governors, Asian
Development Bank, Manila (1976-80)
  Director, Reserve Bank of India (1976-80)
  Director, Industrial Development Bank of India (1976-80)
  Participated in Commonwealth Prime Ministers Meeting,
Kingston (1975)
  Represented Secretary;-General UNCTAD at several
inter-governmental meetings including :
  Second Session of UNCTAD, 1968
  Committee on Invisibles & Financing Related to Trade,
Consultant to UNCTAD, ESCAP and Commonwealth
Secretariat
   
  Member, International Organizations :
   
  Appointed as Member by the Secretary-General, United Nations of a Group of Eminent Persons to advise him on Financing for Development (December, 2000)

===

from

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2006/11/05/the-washington-post-a-wikipedia-of-secrets/

==

As they say in the Singh family, keep your friends close, and your data mine open. You never know when you will find something to put in it.

=

Russia may have used kompromat files to pressure low interest rate IMF loans in the 1990’s. Bush profs may have known this. India may have known that. Bush and his team may have used this as leverage to get the Iraq 1998 Liberation Act during the Clinton impeachment and the USAO Mass investigation of Harvard. The Bush team may also have used it during Bush v. Gore to influence the Supreme Court and then to influence Gore to go away and not run again. India may have realized this.

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/russias-plagiarism-files/ 

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2007/08/27/gonzales-resigns-questions-for-chertoff-if-ag/

Manmohan Singh’s job may have been to analyze this information over the years at times. This is speculation. Now his daughter investigates Bush on torture. Daddy Singh wants to get our nuclear secrets from Bush and the right to buy uranium on the international market, which it can’t now. Bush says yes. At the same time Edward Markey and others in Congress oppose this deal as against our interest. Bush acts as if he is going to violate laws relating to the deal and not enforce provisions at various times, in the opinion of his critics.

search Edward Markey Indian nuclear

==

This post is hypotheses, speculation, spoof, or opinion. It is draft and preliminary. Comments and corrections welcome. It is subject to change. All assertions should be restated as questions.

re “Already Too Busy for Civility”

November 30, 2006

“Jim Webb, Democratic senator-elect from Virginia, has become a pompous poseur and an abuser of the English language before actually becoming a senator.”

Will is saying Webb is a poseur because Webb says he is for people. Webb wants to stop all guest worker. This includes H1B. Immigration harms young adults by taking away their job security. Without that they can’t get married, have kids and stay married.

Without that, our society loses purpose and meaning. That is precisely what people compalin of. Teens see they have no future and commit meaningless violence.

George Will is the pompous poseur. He is halfway in the K-Street door of the RINO elite that is for big immigration and considers Americans bigots for wanting to end it, all of it legal or illegal.

Will supports amnesty (admittedly Webb does too)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/29/AR2006032902004.html

Will supports unlimited H1B’s.

“Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.”

See also for a pro Will perspective:
http://carryonamerica.com/?p=134

Will, Fred Barnes, Bill Kristol, and Paul Gigot do not support the more stringent Tancredo approach and Kristol even calls his approach “liberal.” More and more of the conservative pundits, minus Pat Buchanan, seem to favor this type of pragmatic approach.”

Some comments on Daily Kos about Will and Immigration

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/11/22/105650/65

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2006/11/22/105650/65/24#c24

In today’s world, an economist is someone who can prove definitively that you have no right to have a job, or medical insurance, and that your job not only SHOULD be shipped to India, but an economically reasonable person would be EAGER to see their job off-shored.

That’s George Will. He is sitting there telling the rest of us that we have no rights to jobs, and that economic rationality means that all our jobs will soon go to China, and that we should be pleased with this.

by centerdem on Wed Nov 22, 2006 at 08:48:47 AM PST”

=== Comments from WaPo

Why doesn’t George Will just say he is for MSM government of the elite by the elite for the elite. He is condemnding Webb, lest government of the elite should perish from Washington D.C., WaPo and the rest of the MSM. I am surprised he didn’t attack Lou Dobbs and Tom Tancredo while he was at it.

Or maybe its government of the people by the elite for the elite.

Or government of the people by the prissy George Will for the elites.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2006112901267&start=621

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 1:05:44 PM

“quote In todays world, an economist is someone who can prove definitively that you have no right to have a job, or medical insurance, and that your job not only SHOULD be shipped to India, but an economically reasonable person would be EAGER to see their job off-shored. Thats George Will. He is sitting there telling the rest of us that we have no rights to jobs, and that economic rationality means that all our jobs will soon go to China, and that we should be pleased with this. by centerdem on Wed Nov 22, 2006 at 08:48:47 AM PST dailykos 2006 endquote

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 9:14:39 AM”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2006112901267&start=221

“You can’t be on good terms with Bush. Bush is against us and
against reason. Bush is on the side of the Baker Botts Bush family. Bush chose Prince Bandar after 9-11. He chose to be against America and cover up the Saudi Pakistan financed attack on America.

Most of above on page 12 or 13.

quote WOW! Will must have hit a left nerve! Webb isnt so much a boor as he is just plain arrogant and obviously not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Webb had an opportunity to form a civil working relationship with Bush and he threw that opportunity away. He effectively made himself politically invisible to the White House and certainly useless to Virginia. And to think he achieved that even before taking office! Way to go, Webb! By JackESpratt | Nov 30, 2006 9:09:49 AM end quote. You cant be on good terms with Bush. Bush is against us and against reason. Bush is on the side of the Baker Botts Bush family. Bush chose Prince Bandar after 9-11. He chose to be against America and cover up the Saudi Pakistan financed attack on America.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 1:11:51 PM |

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2006112901267&start=641

page 33.

How far does the Post system run in numbering pages? It looks like its at the limit? If we reach the limit will Bush and the lobbyist bought Congress and their MSM flacks like Will all resign? At least will Will resign?

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 1:14:13 PM
Page 42, start =821

quote If anyone is an expert on pompous and being a poseur, its you, will. By pssixsix | Nov 30, 2006 2:37:07 PM end quote. That is the truth. Will is also an expert on toadying to power. Will knows how to keep down the people, he attacks the politicians elected to speak for them at his first chance. This was a calculated attack. Will was looking for his opening. Jim Webb ran as in effect the only Senator willing to speak up against guest worker, H1B, and the rest of the lies that Will spews out for his corporate paycheck.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 2:39:47 PM

page 44, start = 861

George Will is an anti-American bigot. You can hear it when he and the elite talk about immigration. They call us lazy and stupid. quote “Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.” end quote. That is from George Will. Translation: Americans are too dumb and lazy to learn math. This is anti-American bigotry. That is common to the elite. Biden, Kennedy, McCain, etc. constantly say Americans are too dumb and lazy to learn math.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 3:06:12 PM
The elite have a culture of hatred of Americans and express it openly. When they say Americans are too stupid for math and science, that is expressing their hatred of Americans.
By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 3:09:23 PM

Page 60
Jim Webb wants to end all guest worker programs. Will wants unlimited guest worker in all technical fields. Will thinks Americans are too dumb or lazy to do these jobs. Will wants to take away job security from young adults. If they can’t have job security, they can’t stay married after they have kids. Because they can’t stay married after they have kids, they won’t have kids. Because they won’t have kids, they won’t get married. Because they won’t get married, they don’t have to be paid well or get benefits. This is the elite mentality. Will is a spokesperson for the CEO’s. Webb is exposing that. This was a predesigned hit job. If not this, Will would have used something else for his hit job on Webb.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 6:32:29 PM

Page 66
George Will: Pharoanic Pompous Poseur Pedant Peurile Pentagonic Porous Photodegenerate Fallacious Fount of Phosphoric Fury Fibrillating Fantasy of Ferrous Foxlike Fabulous Phoenix Faux Fumes of Philly Foulness Fabricating Photovoltaic Fibers Foully Finking Fibbing Fishmongering Foulmouthing Files From Pools of Frogs Foulest Frothing Fiends Fool Fruity Forked Faust.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 8:38:33 PM

Page 66

“Obviously somebody`s orchestrating these flames. Pathetic.

By zjr78xva | Nov 30, 2006 8:52:17 PM”

Or did George Will touch some real resentment of the disloyal elite, of which he is the most egregious example?

Page 67, start = 1321

George Will wants to concentrate on the topic of rudeness, not loyalty to Americans. Saying George Will and George Bush arent loyal to Americans on guest worker is rude. Saying they are loyal only to their own in group is rude and crude. Webb is about displacing them. This is the sound of the George Will MSM being displaced from its throne to mock us for wanting job, physical, and speech security. We want to be heard, and George Will doesnt want us to be heard. Jim Webb speaks for Americans kept down and put down by George Will and George Bush for decades.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 9:18:07 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2006112901267&start=1321

Page 69, start=1361

quote destruction of the middle class end quote.gaburdman | Nov 30, 2006 9:40:10 PM. That is exactly right. George Will and his cohorts on ABC have chortled over the decline of those they went to high school with or their children or grand children. They exult in their status. They have no loyalty at all to where they come from or who they come from. George Will personifies that above all others.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 9:45:43 PM

Page 69, start = 1361
George Will you are a Benedict Arnold to the American middle class. So is the MSM including the ABC team. So is George Bush. You took the side of Saudi Arabia. You took the side of what attacked us. You have covered up the 27 pages that Congress couldn’t publish.

quote Saudi Government Provided Aid to 9/11 Hijackers, Sources Say
By Josh Meyer
The Los Angeles Times

Saturday 02 August 2003

WASHINGTON – The 27 classified pages of a congressional report about Sept. 11 depict a Saudi government that not only provided significant money and aid to the suicide hijackers but also allowed potentially hundreds of millions of dollars to flow to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups through suspect charities and other fronts, according to sources familiar with the document.

One U.S. official who has read the classified section said it describes “very direct, very specific links” between Saudi officials, two of the San Diego-based hijackers and other potential co-conspirators “that cannot be passed off as rogue, isolated or coincidental.”

Said another official: “It’s really damning. What it says is that not only Saudi entities or nationals are implicated in 9/11, but the [Saudi] government” as well. end quote.

You and George Bush have betrayed the people of this country for your personal profit.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 9:52:36 PM

Page 69, start= 1361
WP EDITORS, also apologize to the American middle class for betraying it for the last 40 years since the 1965 Immigration Act. You can apologize for calling us bigots while you take away our job security. You can apologize to young adults who can’t get married, have kids and stay married because you have taken their job security for yourselves. George Bush can do the same. You can apologize for letting Pakistan keep its nukes after 9-11, while we wasted our lives in Iraq that has no nukes. You can apologize for our wasting our lives in Iraq instead of stopping North Korea from getting nukes. The American people do want to stop these dangerous regimes from getting nukes. George Bush betrayed us in Iraq.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 10:09:09 PM

Page 69, 1361

Request George Wills Removal

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 10:12:16 PM

Page 70, start = 1381

quote “infinitely richer” end quote. This has over 40,000 hits in google. So its an acceptable figure of speech.

Dictionary com tells us one meaning is unbounded. If we plot the ratio of George Will’s pay to that of the median worker it continues to rise. If this process continued through time, it would be unbounded.

Webb’s comment was quote America’s top tier has grown infinitely richer and more removed over the past 25 years. end quote.

So as a process in time, it does appear unbounded. This ratio has increased without hitting the upper bound of our patience, yet.

You keep getting away with more immigration to keep us afraid. You take our job, education, physical and speech security from us.

We have to speak up anyhow. You and the rest of the MSM are surpised each time it happens. Lou Dobbs and Tom Tancredo and Jim Webb are something you dismiss, but the people don’t. They speak up for us.That’s what you hate, because in the end, its us that you have disdain and contempt for, not just Webb.

You are telling Webb, be quiet, take the money, and get along. Sell them out. Take Saudi money like Jim Baker. Take oil pipeline money like Baker Botts. Take it. Forget them.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 10:31:49 PM
Men’s median wages are below what they were in 1973. But George Will’s, George Bush’s, and Baker Botts are not.

Page 71, start=1401

quote America’s top tier has grown infinitely richer and more removed over the past 25 years. end quote. Men’s median wages are no higher than in 1973. But George Will’s, George Bush’s, and Baker Botts are not. Could it be that Webb threatens the upward line of your compensation Mr. Will? If Webb sits down, is quiet and takes money, then your wages keep going up? Webb threatens your pocket book. For that you speak up. You want to keep us down, so your corporate masters will pay you more.

Page 71, start=1401

quote The United States has asked for and received extraordinary help from Pakistan in the war on terrorism. end quote. From George Will, search George Will Pakistan.

quote Alabama and one in North Carolina, have significant numbers of textile workers. end quote

Whose jobs you want to give to Pakistan. What did Pakistan do for us in the war on terror? It may have helped finance 9-11. Now it supports the Taliban against our troops.

quote made short shrift of the Taliban end quote.

Not quite George. The Taliban is back, with the help of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.Those are your and George Bush’s allies against the American people.

Why do you speak up for countries that helped attack us on 9-11 and now support the insurgencies against our troops?

Why do you support unlimited H1B so that China can get our night vision and use it against our troops?

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 10:49:52 PM

Page 71, start=1401

quote “Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.” end quote. From an earlier George Will column.

Search on Chinese night vision. China got our night vision and sells it to Pakistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia who supply it to the insurgents to use on our troops.

How do we save money to have our troops killed or maimed by our own night vision technology? Why do you have no loyalty to our troops? Jim Webb does. He wants our night vision technology and other advantages kept here, not given to George Bush allies like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to give to the insurgents to use against our troops.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 10:56:26 PM

Page 71, start=1401


Search on Indian stealth Noshir Gowadia. He was born in India and sold our stealth technology to China. How does that save us money? After George Bush finalized the India Nuclear Deal, India did a deal with China. What do you know about India, China, etc. having kompromat on George Bush?

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 11:01:57 PM

Page 71, start=1401
The real reason you hate James Webb, is that Webb is loyal to America and our troops, and George Bush and George Will aren’t. They use these as slogans but lie. They are both as disloyal to our troops as to our middle class.

They sell out our night vision and stealth technology to China as they sell out education opportunities in math and science at our own universities and our jobs in those fields. Those are supposed to be the high pay high benefit jobs.

We are supposed to sacrifice to get education for them, and then you take them from us and give them to people from India and China. Then they sell weapons based on that tech to Saudi Arabia, Iran and Pakistan that supply them to the insurgents to use on our troops. They and we are killed and maimed.

You say it saves money. It only saves you money and those you answer to, the Baker Botts law firms, lobbyists and big money interests that pay you and George Bush. Webb isn’t taking the money to be quiet, so you attack him on flimsy grounds.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 11:07:41 PM

Page 76, start=1501

quote and even the conservative columnist George Will notes in the Washington Post, quote It is not fantasy that there have been many reports that the then-head of Pakistani intelligence was responsible for $100,000 being wired to Mohamed Atta, the lead 9/11 hijacker. end quote [Washington Post, 10/5/2003] end quote. from Cooperativeresearch. How can George Will be supporting George Bush in 2006 against Jim Webb, when he himself has pointed out in 2003 that Bush betrayed us on Pakistan? What does Will know about the relationship between Pakistan and George Bush? Why did George Will not oppose George Bush in 2004 because Bush covered up the Pakistan and Saudi Arabia role in financing 9-11, and in supporting and financing the insurgencies in Afghanistan and Iraq?

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 7:11:22 AM

Page 77, start=1521

quote These pols play on the fantasies of mildly delusional voters. end quote from R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr., Unpleasant People’s Party, in Wash Times today.

So James Webb is hit from both barrels of the Washington establishment. They can’t stand a Senator who tells the truth.

quote mildly delusional voters end quote. Men’s real wages are below what they were in 1973. CEO and George Will wages are up.

Since 9-11, the price of oil has gone from about 25 dollars a barrel to over 60. So Saudi Princes income is up. Prince Bandar and Prince al Turki have done well with the Bush post 9-11 policy of blame Saddam.

But the American middle class is left behind. We need job security for young adults so they can get married, have kids and stay married. That means no immigration, no guest worker. That isn’t a delusion, its reality.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 8:54:07 AM
A better tack on immigration

By R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr.
December 2, 2005

“There is a market for immigrants in this country. The president is more cognizant of this than those who would restrict immigration. But consider the market for a minute: (1) producers need immigrants; (2) Immigrants come because there is work that enriches them. This market has helped the economy. It is growing robustly and without unemployment, one of the feared downsides of immigration or even illegal immigration. We are almost at full employment, and with 2 to 3 times as many illegal immigrants in the country as in the mid-1980s, when former Sen. Alan Simpson, Wyoming Republican, last addressed the immigration issue. That pretty much proves the economy can accept immigration and prosper.”

So Tyrrel is a big immigrationist, just like George Will. Both want to take away job security from young adults, thus depriving them of the essential security to get married, have kids and stay married.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Tyrrell

search R. Emmett Tyrell “immigration”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Spectator

The American Spectator is a conservative U.S. monthly magazine covering news and politics, edited by R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr. and published by the non-profit American Spectator Foundation.”

“From its founding in 1967 until the late 1980s, the small-circulation magazine featured the writings of authors such as Thomas Sowell, Tom Wolfe, P.J. O’Rourke, George F. Will, Patrick J. Buchanan, Alex Linder and Malcolm Muggeridge,”
search American Spectator “George Will” 146,000 hits

So Tyrrell in the Washington Times is rushing to the defense of George Will against the reader response at Washington Post.

Page 78, start=1541

Comment in Post:

Unpleasant people’s party?

By R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr.
December 1, 2006 This is another attack piece on Webb. This may be a response to yesterday’s reader response to George Will. Tyrrell published George Will in his American Spectator. Tyrrell like Will supports big immigration and guest worker.
quote There is a market for immigrants in this country. The president is more cognizant of this than those who would restrict immigration. But consider the market for a minute: (1) producers need immigrants; (2) Immigrants come because there is work that enriches them. This market has helped the economy. It is growing robustly and without unemployment, one of the feared downsides of immigration or even illegal immigration. We are almost at full employment, and with 2 to 3 times as many illegal immigrants in the country as in the mid-1980s, when former Sen. Alan Simpson, Wyoming Republican, last addressed the immigration issue. That pretty much proves the economy can accept immigration and prosper. end quote.

From “A better tack on immigration”

By R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr.
December 2, 2005 Washington Times.

Also at American Spectator

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10692

Tyrrell is part of the Washington big immigration establishment. Unemployment is low, but median wages for men are below what they were in 1973.

Tyrrell is pushing immigration for employers. Tyrrell is pushing down our wages and our benefits.

Young adults need job security. They need jobs with good wages and benefits. They need job security to get married, have kids and stay married.

They look forward and work backwards. They may not stay married with kids without a good job, especially for the man. Men’s wages are below what they were in 1973.

They won’t have kids if they are married if they don’t think they will have job security and stay married. So they don’t have kids while married.

Because they have figured out they won’t have kids if they get married, they don’t get married. So the lack of job security works its way backwards in their decision tree.

They can’t be sure they will stay married after having kids, so they don’t have kids while married. They forecast that, so they don’t get married.

Teenagers then see that they have no near term prospects of settling down. That takes away meaning from their lives. Their biological clock tells them to have kids as teens. But they see that men of all ages are losing good jobs and not getting new jobs with good wages, benefits, job security, and workplace dignity.

So teens go wilding without the prospect of entering a stable adult world as workers and parents. This undermines the entire stability of society. The result is crime. Teen crime shoots up. This is what happened after the 1965 Immigration Act. Congress created a crime wave. We are living in it still.

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Will quote “Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.” end quote.

Tyrrell quote There is a market for immigrants in this country. end quote.
Tyrrell and Will have supported Chinese and Indian grad students and H1B’s coming to America. They have gained our night vision tech and produce it in China and India and sell it to Pakistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia. They supply it to the insurgents to use against our troops. Tyrrell and Will have supported this know-how transfer and championed it.

Christians in Virginia and Indiana won’t listen to the left attack Tyrrell and Will. But they will listen to Webb. Webb is an authentic American hero. When he tells Christians in Virginia and Indiana that Tyrrell and Wil have given our night vision to Chinese grad students and now its
in the hands of insurgents who use it to kill and maim our troops, those Christians will listen.

That is why Tyrrell and Will fear Webb. Tyrrell and Will are not loyal to Americans. They are not loyal to the Christians in Indiana and Virginia who listen to them. Webb is someone those Christians will listen to and learn the truth that Tyrrell and Will have put our night vision in the hands of insurgents who kill and maim our troops.

They are being paid off by the Washington establishment and ultimately law firms and think tanks acting for China. Tyrrell and Will don’t want Christians in Virginia and Indiana to hear this from Webb. Neither do George Bush or John McCain.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 10:53:03 AM

Page 80, start=1581

Two links from American Spectator website:

Tax Havens
Offshore Banking

Spectator is published by Tyrrell who has published Will articles in it. They are defending each other together. Jim Webb is against Tax Havens and Offshore Banking and the Washingont pundits who pretend to be for people but are really linked to this. This is another reason they don’t want Webb exposing them. Webb won’t just take money and be quiet. They want Webb to take the Washington money and pretend to be for people, like them. They want Webb to let China get our night vision and pretend to support our troops, like them. They want guest workers and grad students to take away our know-how and job security and pretend to be for the middle class, like them.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 11:02:41 AM

Page 83, 1641

quote

Do you think there is even a chance that George Will or any of the editors or WaPo are reading these comments to see how far off base they are with average Americans? Naw. That would imply that they care what we think when it is clear that they only like what is said in their little echo chamber. WaPo and mainstream news are headed the way of the dinasaur because they refuse to listen.
By Krotten1 | Dec 1, 2006 12:04:29 PM end quote.

You are right. They are saying we are disgruntled rodents. That is why they keep pushing guest worker, H1B, no Americans in physics and math Ph.D. programs, but 100,000 dollar fellowships for Chinese and Indians.

That is why they let China sell our night vision to Iran, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to supply to the insurgents to use against our troops, to kill them and maim them. They don’t talk to our troops very often. Why?

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 12:27:22 PM
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page 83, start=1641

Will and MSM including ABC harm us by immigration. They have taken our job security. They prevent young adults getting married, having kids and staying married by taking their job security. They hate us because they have hurt us.

They can’t recognize our opinions as valid. They have to character assassinate us.

That is why they are attacking Webb. Webb speaks for our job security. They can’t stand to hear it. Webb is a hero. They have to degrade Webb in the same way they have degraded us.

quote Do you think there is even a chance that George Will or any of the editors or WaPo are reading these comments to see how far off base they are with average Americans? Naw. That would imply that they care what we think when it is clear that they only like what is said in their little echo chamber. WaPo and mainstream news are headed the way of the dinasaur because they refuse to listen. By Krotten1 | Dec 1, 2006 12:04:29 PM end quote.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 12:33:30 PM

page 89, start=1761

Will wants to damage the character of Webb. Will was looking for something. So was Tyrrell. They are fuax conservatives.

They have gone along with giving our high tech night vision to China and India through grad students, profs, and H1B’s. That night vision goes to Iran, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and then to the insurgents.

Will and Tyrrell know that Webb is against this. They don’t want him exposing them as not supporting our troops. This is a preemptive attack.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 6:03:09 PM

page 91, start=1801

The larger point is that Webb won’t be bought and will tell the truth. Webb can tell that Washington pundits are bought or at least rented on many issues. Or they sell themselves out on their own. These right wing pundits say they support our troops while they give our night vision to China through H1B, grad students, etc. That ends up with the insurgents who kill and maim our troops. That doesn’t save money. They take our educational opportunities in math and physics, our job security, our wages, our benefits, our careers, and then our technology ends up maiming and killing our troops. Webb is willing to tell this truth. He isn’t part of the immigration industrial complex. He isn’t part of the George Will spin complex. They are launching a pre-emptive attack. They were looking for something.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 9:00:38 PM

Page 92, start=1821

When will Will ever learn, he’s what Webb has to warn us of.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 10:23:42 PM

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George Will “Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.”

Thursday, March 30, 2006; Page A23.

China’s Secret War
By Patrick Devenny
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 31, 2005

FBI Assistant Director Dan Szady:

“3,000 Chinese front companies that presently operate within the US. The main purpose of these pseudo-businesses, he said, is to facilitate often-illegal technology transfers to the Chinese government.”

This was in March 31, 2005, but Will in 2006 is still advocating that math and science at the Ph.D level be taught to Chinese and not Americans.

Webb has the opposite view. Will doesn’t want people who will listen to Webb to hear Webb expose Will’s continuing betrayal of our country.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 2, 2006 8:58:12 AM

Will supports quote unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills end quote.

More from Chinas Secret War By Patrick Devenny FrontPageMagazine.com | March 31, 2005. quote At Beijing�s behest, Shih shipped cutting edge night vision technology to Chinese technical research centers, such as the North China Research Institute, which are closely linked to the PRC military. … But the damage had been done. Almost single-handedly, Shih destroyed America�s advantage in night optic technology�a critical component of our continuing dominance on the battlefield. end quote

This night vision is then sold to Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc. who supply it to the insurgents to use against our troops. What about supporting our troops? Webb does by stopping this. Will doesn’t by making it happen. That’s why Will wants to discredit and silence Webb.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 2, 2006 9:38:20 AM

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Will wants to be thought of as conservative and loyal to America. Webb upstages him on that. This is why Will attacks Webb.

George Will quote Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying. end quote.

Bill Gertz Wash imes re stealth tech stolen by China quote
Details of the classified defense technology related to the B-2’s engine exhaust system and its ability to avoid detection by infrared sensors were sold to Chinese officials by former defense contractor Noshir S. Gowadia, an Indian-born citizen charged with spying in a federal indictment released by prosecutors in Hawaii. end quote.

Webb is against the H1B program that made this possible. George Will is for it. Will can’t let middle Americans hear this from Webb. Will is preemptively discrediting Webb to avoid Webb pointing out that Will’s disloyalty (and bigotry) to the middle class is responsible for this.

FBI on Gowadia

Wash Times Editorial

search “Noshir Gowadia

By OldAtlantic | Dec 2, 2006 4:09:27 PM

page 97, start=1921

quote deranged Bush hating fanaticism end quote. Bush wouldnt let the 27 pages of the 2003 Congressional report be published.

Saudi Government Provided Aid to 9/11 Hijackers, Sources Say
By Josh Meyer
The Los Angeles Times

Saturday 02 August 2003

WASHINGTON – The 27 classified pages of a congressional report about Sept. 11 depict a Saudi government that not only provided significant money and aid to the suicide hijackers but also allowed potentially hundreds of millions of dollars to flow to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups through suspect charities and other fronts, according to sources familiar with the document.

One U.S. official who has read the classified section said it describes “very direct, very specific links” between Saudi officials, two of the San Diego-based hijackers and other potential co-conspirators “that cannot be passed off as rogue, isolated or coincidental.”

Said another official: “It’s really damning. What it says is that not only Saudi entities or nationals are implicated in 9/11, but the [Saudi] government” as well.

Why doesnt let Bush let this be published now? George Will and George Bush must fear that Webb will want it published. quote moonbats. end quote.By OldAtlantic | Dec 2, 2006 6:05:46 PM

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George Will Nov 30, 2006: “… cavalier historical judgments — although is he sure that America is less egalitarian today than it was, say, 50 years ago, when only about 7 percent of American adults had college degrees? (Twenty-eight percent do today.) “

George Will in March 30, 2006: “Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.”

Webb is saying there is more income inequality today. Will in Nov 2006 says we have 28 percent college degrees, showing Americans are educated. But in March 2006, Will said Americans don’t learn anything in college, i.e. math and science, and that the school system can’t teach them.

If Americans can’t do hard stuff, as Will says in March, then more degrees won’t eliminate the income inequality. Will is willing to say anything based on what point he wants to make. Americans wrote the textbooks in calculus, Apostol, Spivak, Leithholds, etc. If Americans can write the textbooks, can’t they learn from them? Webb doesn’t have this anti-American bigot attitude that Will does, that’s why Will has to discredit him.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 3, 2006 8:48:26 AM

Page 98, start=1941
George Will in March 2006 quote Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that Americas education system is not sufficiently supplying. end quote.

Chinese night vision has 2.4 million hits.

We invented night vision in the US but now the Chinese have it and it ends up with the insurgents killing and maiming our troops. It hurt Israel in Lebanon in 2006.

A fair question is whether through his many associations, think tanks, speaking fees, books overseas or used in US courses, etc. Will or any legal entity linked to him gets money from Chinese arms merchants? Is there merchant of death money (American GI’s deaths and maiming) that flows back to Will or any legal entity he has any link to from the know-how transfer to China by H1B’s, grad students, etc?

By OldAtlantic | Dec 3, 2006 1:51:20 PM

Is Will a pompous poseur of disloyalty? Is Will the benefactor of Chinese merchants of death? Is Will a benefactor of the Chinese network that gained our night vision know-how?

American Spectator

George Will and Tyrrell Bashing Webb:

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10696

..

Price of Oil

http://www.wtrg.com/prices.htm

Chart

http://www.wtrg.com/oil_graphs/oilprice1947.gif

From 1985 to 2003, the price of oil fluctuated between 10 and 30 dollars a barrell. Now its at 60 dollars. George Bush has helped Prince Bandar and Prince al-Turki. George Bush’s post 9-11 policies have helped Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia and Pakistan 9-11:

http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd09092003.html

by George Will

Fascism, Alive and Abroad
By George Will
Sunday, October 5, 2003

““It is not fantasy that there have been many reports that the then-head of Pakistani intelligence was responsible for $100,000 being wired to Mohamed Atta, the lead 9/11 hijacker.” [Washington Post. 5 October.’)” onmouseout=”return nd()”>Washington Post, 10/5/2003]” Timeline
On George Will

Criticism: http://www.counterpunch.org/hughes0924.html

http://www.counterpunch.org/chuckman08222003.html

on R. Emmett Tyrrell

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_brass_id.asp

Two links from American Spectator:

Tax Havens
Offshore Banking

Chinese Spying

“How China Steals U.S. Military Secrets
A spate of recent spying cases opens the lid on China’s aggressive military buildup. What’s most troubling: It is based largely on U.S. technology.”

BY Simon Cooper

August 2006
Popular Mechanics

Fact Sheet
Bureau of Political-Military Affairs
Washington, DC
July 3, 2006

“U.S. Arms Export Control Compliance and Enforcement and the UN Program of Action for Small Arms and Light Weapons (SA/LW)”

http://www.state.gov/t/pm/rls/fs/68550.htm

March 2006
SELECT ICE ARMS & STRATEGIC TECHNOLOGY INVESTIGATIONS

China’s Secret War
By Patrick Devenny
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 31, 2005
search China ” night vision” arrested


This article represents hypotheses, speculation or opinion. All other disclaimers apply.

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Lawmakers Concerned About U.S.-India Nuclear Trade Deal

November 15, 2006

“U.S. law forbids selling nuclear technology to countries like India that have refused to sign the Non-Proliferation Treaty & the pending nuclear deal with India would reverse years of policies aimed at preventing the spread of nuclear weapons. Congressional leaders still have not seen the promised intelligence report as the Senate prepares to vote.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/14/AR2006111401208.html

Comments

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn//comments/display?contentID=AR2006111401208&start=1&sub=AR

Many good comments above. India has substantial information on the Clinton and Bush administration. Russia got billions in IMF loans from professors in the 1990’s.

Russia had detailed info on the profs or their home universities, Harvard and MIT. Harvard was investigated starting in 1997 in connection with a HIID grant.

The info Russia had, India and Pakistan had as well as the Bush profs. In 1998, India and Pakistan got their nuclear tests, Russia another 4.8 billion dollars and the neocons got the Iraq Liberation Act. This was all during the Clinton impeachment, loans to Russia, LTCM bailout, and Iraq Liberation Act hearings. During Bush v. Gore, this history was known to both sides.

Pakistan and Saudi Arabia knew it on 9-11. Ahmed, head of Pakistan’s ISI had a meeting with Armitage, who signed the 1998 PNAC letter. Ahmed may have raised this issue.

These methods go back to the 1920’s. Russia has talked about plagiarism by Western profs in print since 1937 and used this to pressure profs connected to Los Alamos during WWII. This was already known by both India and Pakistan in the 1950’s. After Klaus Fuchs’ arrest it was obvious. These methods were used to pressure Niels Bohr during WWII and Churchill was told and he threatened Bohr with jail.

See Russia Plagiarism files and other topics related to this.

The above is speculation, opinion and hypotheses. All other disclaimers apply.

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The Washington Post: A Wikipedia Of Secrets

November 5, 2006

By Frank Ahrens
Sunday, November 5, 2006; Page F07

“Imagine if, in August 2001, the U.S. intelligence agencies had dumped all of their information into one secure, online resource where it was searchable and accessible to anyone who had the proper clearance.”

“Who knows if the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11 could have been averted?”

Academia has allowed Russia to build files on plagiarism by profs in academia. This started in 1925 when Dirac plagiarized Max Born and Pascual Jordan with the aid of Fowler, Rutherford’s son in law. Bohr along with other institute directors in Europe were made Fellows of the Royal Society the next year by Rutherford. This helped them get Rockefeller grants that they needed in their poverty after WWI.

Fowler, Bohr and Rutherford families would stay as house guests of each other. Heisenberg was a house guest of Fowler in July 1925. The plagiarism happened in late October 1925 after the preprints of the Born Jordan paper were available. Fowler rushed the Dirac plagiarism into print in early November 1925 before the Born Jordan paper was published. He did it in the Proceedings of the Royal Society.

Lindemann the scientific adviser to Churchill in the 1930’s and during WWII was a Fellow of the Royal Society at the time and likely heard what happened. It was blatant plagiarism. Born and Jordan changed Heisenberg’s matrix notation and Dirac copied the BJ notation extensively, which showed he had seen their paper.

Dirac kept plagiarizing away. Fermi wrote him a letter about it, this is what is called Fermi Dirac statistics. Dirac later said that spin 1/2 particles should be named fermions.

Klaus Fuchs, Huanwu Peng, Kun Huang, Oppenheimer, and Heisenberg were all Max Born assistants. Peng and Huang went back to China after Fuchs was arrested in 1950. Peng is credited with being a hero of the Chinese bomb project by the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists.

Kapitza was Rutherford’s assistant in 1925. When Niels Bohr was rescued during WWII, there was a Kapitza letter waiting for him at the Soviet embassy in London in 1944. He met with Churchill who was likely told this history and Churchill was mad. In 1945, Terletsky was sent from Russia to meet with Bohr with another Kapitza letter.

The Russians were pushing the Kapitza story in the 1990’s while they got low interest rate loans from IMF. Sudoplatov had a footnote in his 1994 book to remind the profs in the US of this. They got angry but didn’t tell the truth about this, including Bethe and Teller.

So if a Wikipedia on Russia’s plagiarism files had been available in the 1940’s, Klaus Fuchs might not have been allowed into Los Alamos without more questions being asked. This would have showed that the profs in Los Alamos knew he was a risk.

Bethe was the boss of Fuchs in Los Alamos but also was at Bristol with him in 1936. Fuchs was a Lutheran refugee from Hitler, which meant communist. But Oppenheimer and Fuchs had both been Max Born assistants and knew the above embarrassing details, so Bethe just went along.

The Oppenheimer Security Clearance Hearings were in April 1954. Before Teller testified he and Bethe argued for an hour over what his testimony would be. Teller may have threatened to tell the above. This may be why he was ostracized for his testimony, they were afraid he would tell the above.

Bethe had not told this to the FBI after Fuchs was arrested. Bethe was a known plagiarist and that was already in Physical Review in coy footnotes, including the article on Bethe’s calculation of the Lamb Shift.

Nambu says he was before Bethe Salpeter for the BS equation. But Kita in a footnote tells us he was before Nambu. Kita and Nambu were Japanese and so were easy prey. Nambu is still alive and is a prof at University of Chicago.

Detailed page references on the 1925 plagiarism by Dirac of Born and Jordan, Kapitza’s obituary on Rutherford in 1937 that mentions crediting the work of others, etc. is available in

Russia Used Plagiarism Files to Gain atomic know-how.
Also see Rob Sanchez Vdare H1B DoD for Corson Fock and Chinese assisants of Max Born.


Two Russian profs who may work on these files today are Albert Shiryaev at Moscow State University and Valery Makarov at New Economic School Moscow. Shiryaev does it in finance and Makarov in economics. This includes misconduct at the Federal Reserve, US Treasury, Council of Economic Advisers, US DOJ Antitrust Division Economic Analysis Group, FTC, SEC, IMF and World Bank. This includes profs who may have high level positions there and whose home base university is involved in this, or journals or publishers who they are linked to who are involved.

TOC: US v. Harvard, Bush v. Gore, Russia’s files on Plagiarism

Aldrich Ames and Robert P. Hanssen tipped off the Russians that they had a mole problem inside Russian intelligence. This is why they had Chubais handle negotiations for IMF loans with Stanley Fischer and Larry Summers.

Boris Berezovsky had a Ph.D. in math from Moscow State University and was a manager at the Institute of Control Sciences, Academy of Sciences, USSR. This is the area that analyzed the 1969 NSF grant papers of Robert C. Merton, Paul A. Samuelson, the Stanley Fischer MIT Ph.D. thesis, and the David Levhari TN Srinivasan paper.

They analyzed this for overlapping with the 1966 Nils Hakansson UCLA Ph.D. thesis received at MIT in 1966 because Karl Shell of MIT was session chairman for Hakansson to present the paper at the Dec 1966 Winter Meeting of the Econometric Society. We are neutral on whether this was plagiarism.

Hakansson bio

Hakansson’s contribution was a critical step in both finance and the microfoundations of macroeconomics. It was the joint consumption, savings, portfolio decision under uncertainty for multiple time periods using dynamic programming for the first time. It built on, and cited, the Phelps paper, which it found an error in.

search Merton Samuelson 1969 site:harvard.edu 14 hits

search Merton Samuelson Hakansson 1969 site:harvard.edu 0 hits.

So Harvard is not crediting Hakansson even today in this form. (Merton has cited the 1970 Hakansson paper, including in his book Continuous Time Finance.) One can take off the site:harvard.edu and see that Hakansson is credited by some.

Merton Nobel Prize autobio written after fall 1997, and after USAO Mass investigation started in spring 1997 says:

” The research with Paul on warrant pricing introduced me to the expected utility maxim and its application to optimal portfolio selection in a static framework. As a consequence of that effort, I began to think about combining the static theory of portfolio selection with the intertemporal optimization of lifetime consumption under certainty found in the growth-model literature. Ignorant of the important work underway by Nils Hakansson and Hayne Leland, then graduate students elsewhere, I attacked the problem of dynamic portfolio theory in a continuous-time framework without having the benefit of their discrete-time formulations. Despite all the mathematics courses that I had taken, l had seen neither stochastic dynamic programming nor the Ito calculus, both of which turned out to be key mathematical tools needed for this research. Instead, driven by “need,” I found them and learned them on my own. Presented first at a Harvard-MIT graduate student seminar in November 1968, my paper on lifetime consumption and portfolio selection under uncertainty was published the following August as a companion paper to one by Paul investigating the effect of age on portfolio risk tolerance.”

In fact, Hakansson got his Ph.D. thesis in 1966. Merton’s August 1970 MIT Ph.D. thesis available on line from MIT cites Hakansson as forthcoming.

Merton’s Ph.D. thesis is at MIT in a set of Nobel Prize winner theses on-line. Merton’s thesis home page at MIT. (This is 13.5 megabytes, and can be downloaded as a pdf and viewed. This is better than trying to view the pdf online.)

In a 1973 J. SIAM article, Samuelson and Merton cite the Hakansson 1966 Ph.D. thesis. In the Stanley Fischer 1969 Ph.D. thesis, Fischer cites Hakansson 1966 but says he was given a copy late and had already done his work.

Stanley Fischer thesis available from MIT here. (This is over 27 megabytes, and can be downloaded as a pdf and viewed. This is better than trying to view the pdf online.) The thesis is stamped by the MIT Library with the date October 7, 1969. It is signed August 18, 1969. It itself calls itself an August 1969 thesis. It appears the final typed version was not however completed until October 1969. Fischer went on the academic job market late it appears and was hired at University of Chicago in fall 1969 not as an assistant prof but as a post doc in effect. This required a visa.

Was the footnote acknowledge Hakansson added after August 1969? Aug 1969 is when the Merton and Samuelson NSF papers were published by Harvard in the Review of Economics and Statistics. Hakansson presented his paper at Harvard Business School in Jan/Feb 1969 as did Stiglitz. Both were at Yale.
Merton claims that even in 1997 he didn’t know Hakansson got his Ph.D. in 1966 and that Hakansson was still a graduate student elsewhere in 1968.

Fischer’s thesis also contains another chapter extending the results to uncertain date of death. It turns out Hakansson has already done that and submitted a paper from Yale on it.

There were close links between Yale econ and MIT Econ at the time, including Duncan Foley and Joseph Stiglitz. Stiglitz has carried on a feud with Summers and Fischer from the mid 1990’s to date.This has gotten quite personal. Other Harvard econ profs like Rogoff reacted angrily to Stiglitz criticizing IMF policy under Fischer and Summers.

Hakansson has not been made a Fellow of the Econometric Society. See list of fellows. Almost everyone else even remotely close to this was made a Fellow. This is despite most of them not making a permanent contribution to economics the way Hakansson has. Hakansson’s formulas are part of the permanent math of economics.

Stanley Fischer doesn’t really have any such contribution for his entire career. Fischer was made a Fellow in 1977. Most Fellows don’t have a great formula that is a permanent part of economics like Hakansson does.

Even Paul Samuelson arguably doesn’t have a great single formula of the level that Hakansson has. Most Nobel Prize winners don’t have a major mathematical formula reflecting a breakthrough like Hakansson has. Hakansson’s paper and formulas and theorems were some of the great ones of the 20th century.

Almost none of the other participants at MIT, thesis supervisors and commitee members, Ph.D. students at the time, etc. had a formula as important as Hakansson’s or as influential. Yet almost all of them were made Felllows of the Econometric Society.

For a brief period in the early 1970’s, MIT and Harvard pulled back a little.

But then there was the 1972 Warsaw meeting with the Russians with Valery Makarov. From MIT was Martin Weitzman now at Harvard. William Brock from University of Chicago was there, see his CV in pdf. Also there was Martin J. Beckmann. So was Koopmans, now deceased. Attending that conference doesn’t mean they had any knowledge then or now of any attempt by Soviets like Valery Makarov to apply hypothetical pressure to Koopmans or the other Americans.

Did the Russians put on pressure on them to nominate Kantorovich? Vainshtein of the USSR had recently said Leontief of Harvard had plagiarized, in effect, Soviets on input and output. Leontief got the Nobel Prize for this. Kantorovich got the Nobel Prize in 1975 for math econ work. The only prior math econ winners were Arrow and Samuelson.

After this, the tendency to cite Hakansson went down. Hakansson was not made a Fellow of the Econometric Society in the mid 1970’s as he should have been based on comparisons to others. Why? What changed from the early 1970’s when MIT did start to acknowledge Hakansson and the late 1970’s when that became rarer in the economics profession? Was it Russia using this to pressure nominations for the Nobel Prize from math econ winners Arrow and Samuelson, uncles of Larry Summers, that made the change?

Russia got billions in low interest rate IMF loans from Fischer and Summers. Some of the money went missing. Berezovsky got rich from loans for shares in fall of 1995 after the first 10 billion tranche from IMF in spring 1995.

LTCM, other hedge funds, Goldman Sachs and university endowments traded Russian government bonds in the 1990’s. Goldman Sachs paid Bush senior 100,000 dollars to speak in Moscow June 1998. Jack Abramoff took Delay on a trip to Moscow. The oligarchs were paying off Delay in 1998 to keep the IMF funds coming that they were using academic kompromat to pressure out of Fischer and Summers.

–Fischer Interviews

Fed

Olivier Blanchard, coauthor on textbook from 1989 that cites Merton and Samuelson 1969 but not Hakansson at all, or Fischer.–

John Yoo, Paul Wolfowitz, and possibly George Bush from Prince Bandar were figuring this out in the 1990’s. They got the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998 during the Clinton impeachment hearings, along with hearings on loans to Russia, the Fed bailout of LTCM, and during the USAO Mass investigation of Harvard and Shleifer from 1997 to 2005.

Yoo may have told this to Silberman and Hatch who told Scalia. They may have used it to pressure Gore to go away after the decision in Bush v. Gore. Scalia wrote the lone opinion on why they stopped the vote counting early. That may be because he was the one who heard this.

It is possible that Pakistan and Saudi Arabia knew it at the IMF and used that to pressure Bush after 9-11 to ignore their involvement in 9-11. General Ahmed may have said this to Armitage in their meeting and that is why Armitage got so mad. Saudi Arabia got to airlift out its people from the US after 9-11. In November 2001, Pakistan got to airlift out its generals and ISI and soldiers from Kunduz Afghanistan according to Seymour Hersh. This may have been their use of this leverage.

M. A. B. Beg was a physics prof at Rockefeller University. He knew Pais who wrote about the Fock Corson episode in his 1997 book A Tale of Two Continents. Beg was dead by then. Beg was from Pakistan. Beg was an expert in Fock space and may have passed this on to Pakistan. Its possible the Saudis have profs of Muslim or Arab origins who give them info on this for money in the West.

–Reply to a comment at WaPo

quote There is no archive of entries so that a reader can view the history of entries and form an opinion. end quote. Click on history on wiki.

For example, Manmohan Singh, PM of India. Parts of his bio were taken off relating to his experience going to the Soviet Union in 1980’s, etc. Singh gave a speech at Moscow State University indicating knowledge of some of the above and of the cases in econ.

Singh helps balance Pakistan’s knowledge of this at IMF and World Bank. Pakistan had a VP at World Bank and Shaukat Aziz at Citicorp and they know of the kompromat issues used over the decades at IMF and World Bank because of profs there. This is speculation, as are the other posts.

==Excerpt removed from wiki from Singh’s bio from his cv.

A version of wiki that has this is from August 2006. Someone took out the parts indicating his possible cooperation or observation of the Soviets and his work at IMF and World Bank for India where he likely had access to files on academic misconduct of US profs and Russia’s files on them. His speech at Moscow State University on Dec 5, 2005 indicates his knowledge. Notice he mentions Kapitza. This gave him leverage over Bush and Senator Hatch and others to get the India nuclear deal moving forward.

“It is not surprising that your university should have produced great Nobel laureates like Nikolai Semionov, Igor Tamm, Ilia Frank, Leo Landau and Pyotr Kapitza.”

Tamm Dancoff was one of the things the Russians complained off in their own publications in 1955 as overreaching by Oppenheimer protege Dancoff.

“As a student of economics I have admired the work of such great Russian economists as the Nobel Laureates, Wassily Leontief and Leonid Kantorovich.”

Leontief was accused of plagiarism by Vainshtein of USSR in 1969-70 issue of Matekon. Kantorovich got Nobel Prize nominations from prior winners possibly including math econ winners Arrow and Samuelson, the uncles of Larry Summers. Samuelson was on Fischer’s Ph.D. at MIT and on Merton’s. Samuelson got an NSF grant for one of the 1969 papers and supervised Merton to get another NSF grant for another 1969 paper involved in the MIT incident. Its these two papers that Stanley Fischer credits in his 1989 textbook and not Hakansson at all.

India knew of the plagiarism by Dirac with Fowler’s help of Max Born from the 1930’s from Bhabha. Bhabha was in the UK from 1927 to 1939, much of it at Cambridge where the Dirac Fowler plagiarism happened. Bhabha was head of India’s nuclear program.

The excerpt of Singh’s bio removed from wiki:

OTHER ASSIGNMENTS
  Leader of the Indian delegation to the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting, Cyprus (1993)
 

Leader of the Indian delegation to the Human Rights World Conference, Vienna (1993)

  Governor of India on the Board of Governors of the IMF and the International Bank of Reconstruction & Development (1991-95)
  Appointed by Prime Minister of India as Member, Economic Advisory Council to the Prime Minister (1983-84)
  Chairman, India Committee of the Indo-japan ;Joint Study Committee (1980-83)
   
  Leader, Indian Delegation to :
   
  Indo-Soviet Monitoring Group Meeting (1982)
  Indo-Soviet Joint Planning Group Meeting (1980-82)
  Aid India Consortium Meetings (1977-79)
   
  Member Indian Delegation to :
   
  South-South Consultation, New Delhi (1982)
  Cancun Summit on North-South Issues (1981)
  Aid-India Consortium Meetings, Paris (1973-79)
  Annual Meetings of IMF, IBRD & Commonwealth
Finance Ministers (1972-79)
  Third Session of UNCTAD, Santiago (April-May 1972)
  Meetings of UNCTAD Trade & Development Board,
Geneva (May 1971 – July 1972)
  Ministerial Meeting of Group of 77, Lima (Oct.1971)
  – Deputy for India on IMF Committee of Twenty on
International Monetary Reform (1972 – 74)
  – Associate, Meetings of IMF Interim Committee and Joint
Fund-Bank Development Committee (1976-80, 1982-85)
  Alternate Governor for India, Board of Governors of
IBRD (1976-80)
  Alternate Governor for India, Board of Governors of the
IMF (1982-85)
  Alternate Governor for India, Board of Governors, Asian
Development Bank, Manila (1976-80)
  Director, Reserve Bank of India (1976-80)
  Director, Industrial Development Bank of India (1976-80)
  Participated in Commonwealth Prime Ministers Meeting,
Kingston (1975)
  Represented Secretary;-General UNCTAD at several
inter-governmental meetings including :
  Second Session of UNCTAD, 1968
  Committee on Invisibles & Financing Related to Trade,
Consultant to UNCTAD, ESCAP and Commonwealth
Secretariat
   
  Member, International Organizations :
   
  Appointed as Member by the Secretary-General, United Nations of a Group of Eminent Persons to advise him on Financing for Development (December, 2000)

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