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Pastor Terry Jones Fran Ingram Ten Reasons to Burn a Koran

September 11, 2010

Note that the Ten Reasons to Burn a Koran was written by Fran Ingram not Pastor Terry Jones.

N. at Vdare provided following link that Lawrence Auster posted. Auster supports the Koran burning by Pastor Terry Jones, even though Jones is off it appears. However, Bob Old and the Phelps family at Westboro Baptist Church are saying they will burn a Koran today. Bob Old says at noon and will post video on Youtube of it.

=Fran Ingram:

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Ten Reasons to Burn a Koran

By Fran Ingram – Posted on 02 September 2010

On 9/11/10 we are burning Korans to raise awareness and warn. In a sense it is neither an act of love nor of hate. We see, as we state in the Ten Reasons below, that Islam is a danger. We are using this act to warn about the teaching and ideology of Islam, which we do hate as it is hateful. We do not hate any people, however. We love, as God loves, all the people in the world and we want them to come to a knowledge of the truth. To warn of danger and harm is a loving act. God is love and truth. If you know the truth it can set you free. The world is in bondage to the massive grip of the lies of Islam. These are:


The Koran teaches that Jesus Christ, the Crucified, Risen Son of God, King of Kings and Lord of Lords was NOT the Son of God, nor was he crucified (a well documented historical fact that ONLY Islam denies). This teaching removes the possibility of salvation and eternal life in heaven for all Islam’s believers. They face eternal damnation in hell if they do not repent.


The Koran does not have an eternal origin. It is not recorded in heaven. The Almighty God, Creator of the World, is NOT it’s source. It is not holy. It’s writings are human in origin, a concoction of old and new teachings. This has been stated and restated for centuries by scholars since Islam’s beginnings, both Moslem and non-Moslem.


The Koran’s teaching includes Arabian idolatry, paganism, rites and rituals. These are demonic, an ongoing satanic stronghold under which Moslems and the world suffer.


The earliest writings that are known to exist about the Prophet Mohammad were recorded 120 years after his death. All of the Islamic writings (the Koran and the Hadith, the biographies, the traditions and histories) are confused, contradictory and inconsistent. Maybe Mohammad never existed. We have no conclusive account about what he said or did. Yet Moslems follow the destructive teachings of Islam without question.


Mohammad’s life and message cannot be respected. The first Meccan period of his leadership seems to have been religiously motivated and a search for the truth. But in the second Medina period he was “corrupted by power and worldly ambitions.” (Ibn Warraq) These are characteristics that God hates. They also led to political assassinations and massacres which continue to be carried out on a regular basis by his followers today.


Islamic Law is totalitarian in nature. There is no separation of church and state. It is irrational. It is supposedly immutable and cannot be changed. It must be accepted without criticism. It has many similarities to Nazism, Communism and Fascism. It is not compatible with Western Civilization.


Islam is not compatible with democracy and human rights. The notion of a moral individual capable of making decisions and taking responsibility for them does not exist in Islam. The attitude towards women in Islam as inferior possessions of men has led to countless cases of mistreatment and abuse for which Moslem men receive little or no punishment, and in many cases are encouraged to commit such acts, and are even praised for them. This is a direct fruit of the teachings of the Koran.


A Muslim does not have the right to change his religion. Apostasy is punishable by death.


Deep in the Islamic teaching and culture is the irrational fear and loathing of the West.


Islam is a weapon of Arab imperialism and Islamic colonialism. Wherever Islam has or gains political power, Christians, Jews and all non-Moslems receive persecution, discrimination, are forced to convert. There are massacres and churches, synagogues, temples and other places of worship are destroyed.

From Acts 19 (Amplified)

18Many also of those who were now believers came making full confession and thoroughly exposing their [former deceptive and evil] practices.

19And many of those who had practiced curious, magical arts collected their books and [throwing them, book after book, on the pile] burned them in the sight of everybody. When they counted the value of them, they found it amounted to 50,000 pieces of silver (about $9,300).

20Thus the Word of the Lord [concerning the attainment through Christ of eternal salvation in the kingdom of God] grew and spread and intensified, prevailing mightily.

Like the Christians in Acts 19, we are publicly burning a book that is demonic. Many of our greatest supporters are ex-Moslems. They know these evils first hand. We are not, like the Nazis, stealing books, destroying properties or harming any people. We are not Nazis nor are we like Nazis. The Christians in Acts 19 did not go on from their scroll burning to harm anyone. They used the public burning as an opportunity, a demonstration to preach the truth. Only to preach and leave the decision of whether to follow the truth or not.

Do not forget POINT SIX. Islam (not us) is totalitarian in nature, like Nazism, Communism, and Fascism. This evil nature of Islam needs to be seen. Moslems around the world burn and kill on a regular basis, every week, properties and people. All you have to do is follow the news. The many death threats we are receiving, the warnings about terror attacks also prove our point. Do Christians make these threats when Bibles or churches are burned? No.

We have fallen asleep since 9/11/01 and have been hoodwinked by the growth of a (for now) non violent Islam. Shall we give in to threats, then, and allow Islam to grow in America unopposed? We at Dove World Outreach Center will not, even if it costs us our lives. For those who support us, we say thank you for standing with us in courage. For those who oppose us, we say wake up and do not give in to the fear and lies!

International Burn a Koran Day on Facebook

For more on Islam and the Burn a Koran Day, see our blog and leave comments here:

(The post continues at the link)

Others standing with Pastor Terry Jones in some way are Jihad Watch, Gates of Vienna, and Diana West. Those who have supported the Koran burning itself include Lawrence Auster, Laura Wood, and some posters or commenters at all of those sites.

Links to Diana West articles on this

Jihad Watch and Gates of Vienna have many threads with excellent comments on them.

Gates Vienna archives are hard to find so I post a couple links


Old Atlantic Lighthouse said…

The Baron’s original post is proven better with each hour of news hysteria over the Koran burning. I have tried the Baron’s comparison out on someone who lived during WWII and they agree with the point.

Moreover, Hollywood really was ridiculing Nazism, Hitler and Mein Kampf all through the war. Germany never threatened to retaliate against American POWs because of Hollywood movies depicting Nazis badly.

Hollywood during WWII was semi-official propaganda. This is a single pastor in Florida with a congregation of 50.

To reiterate the main message brilliantly shown by the Baron.
The White House is saying its only a few radicals in caves that we are fighting. They say its not Islam we are fighting. They said this morning that this one pastor will take back all our work in Afghanistan. (I couldn’t confirm that statement on the WH webpage.)

Petraeus and the White House are saying our troops will suffer from this single pastor’s Koran burning.
The comparison of all the Hollywood movies during WWII mocking Hitler and Nazism in comparison to this one pastor, the Danish Cartoons, etc. does in fact prove that we are fighting all of Islam. It also proves that this is the view of a greater percentage of Muslims today than of Nazis during WWII. It shows a greater percentage of Muslims today want our utter destruction and our implacably against us than Nazis during WWII.
9/08/2010 7:04 AM
Blogger Zenster said…

Old Atlantic Lighthouse: The comparison of all the Hollywood movies during WWII mocking Hitler and Nazism in comparison to this one pastor, the Danish Cartoons, etc. does in fact prove that we are fighting all of Islam. It also proves that this is the view of a greater percentage of Muslims today than of Nazis during WWII. It shows a greater percentage of Muslims today want our utter destruction and [are] implacably against us than Nazis during WWII. [emphasis added]

This is an excellent observation and also an important logical extension of the Baron’s superb history lesson.


Once the “moderate” Muslim street remains deafening silent.

How much longer are we to tolerate this intentionally deceptive farce of Muslim “moderation”?

This is yet one more sterling opportunity for Muslims to come out against Islamic intolerance. Instead, they are milking this like the last cow on the farm.
9/08/2010 1:29 PM
Blogger Zenster said…

I’m going to cross-post my latest comment in the Why Do Our Soldiers Fight? thread:

As a dedicated bibliophile, I feel obliged to go on the record yet one more time about how reluctant I am to encourage book burning.

But let there be no dispute that it is a person’s most basic right to burn whatever book they own whenever they want to.

That said, there remains one unequivocal fact:


Burning this piece of ideological filth is a direct message and straight-forward object lesson regarding what all Muslims should anticipate if they refuse to abandon jihad.


Either Muslims begin to make this connection or understand that they will have no reason to complain when Damascus, Islamabad, Ankara, Kabul, Tripoli, Riyadh, Baghdad, Tehran, Cairo and other Muslim cities go up in flames.

In my own mind, it is not a question of “if” but when this will happen. The only real question is whether conventional or unconventional weapons will be involved.
9/08/2010 1:53 PM
Blogger Old Atlantic Lighthouse said…

Zenster, thank you for your kind words and your powerful posts. I appreciate your highlighting from my posts as well as in your own well thought out and structured comments.

We are submitting to Islam with the reaction of our government. Burning the Koran as you point out is how we send a message of victory instead of defeat to the Muslim world.

That is precisely the message our elites won’t send because they don’t want us to win. Our winning would be a victory for unreconstructed White bigots. This they can not be for. They want us to lose. This is the message the Muslims and we both hear.
9/08/2010 4:01 PM

There are other good comments by Zenster at several threads. These should be collected onto a blog so as not to be lost. Some more Zenster comments here:

There are others at Gates of Vienna, Jihad Watch, Lawrence Auster, and likely Diana West and Laura Wood as well as other sites.

Hate threads at Raw Story

Some patriot voices at WaPo thread:

Note Old Atlantic was banned at Raw Story and stealth banned at Washington Post.


Pastor Terry Jones a modern day Prophet of God

September 10, 2010

Pastor Terry Jones is a modern day true Prophet of God. How do we know this? The hate of the Liberal media is one sign. The Trials and Tribulations of Pastor Jones are described by Diana West below.

City of Gainesville has denied the church a burn permit.

RBC Bank has called in its mortgage on the property, meaning that there is now a limited time to pay it off.

Cotton All-Lines Insurance has cancelled its commercial insurance policy on the church property, which puts the mortgage into immediate default.

And a commenter at Lawrence Auster’s View from the Right notes that Dove World’s internet provider Rackspace shut down the Dove World church website.

Islam is about our non-existence. Liberalism worships Islam because Islam hates the White Race, the White West and Christianity. Moreover, Liberalism worships Islam, because unlike Liberalism, Islam really can finish the White Race, White West and Christianity.

Pastor Jones has brought down the world wide hate of Liberalism and Islam on himself. This is a sign from God that Pastor Jones is acting for God now in burning the Koran.

Because God has given us these signs of Pastor Jones doing God’s Work, we should support Pastor Jones and support the burning of Korans. Even if Pastor Jones is unable to complete the act of burning a Koran, he has lit us the way.

The Bush Obama reign has kissed the Koran and burned the Bible. Pastor Terry Jones stands athwart this history shouting stop. He is the true Prophet of God on burning the Koran, a book of wickedness of a religion of wickedness. That is why Liberalism kisses the Koran.

The comments of the Liberal media show that they believe that all of Islam is united by the single burning of one Koran by one obscure pastor of a small congregation. Barack Hussein Obama said something very close to that at a recent White House press conference.

Q Thank you, Mr. President. I wonder if I can get you to weigh in on the wisdom of building a mosque a couple of blocks from Ground Zero. We know that the organizers have the constitutional right. What would it say about this country if they were somehow talked out of doing that? And hasn’t the Florida minister’s threat to burn a couple hundred copies of the Koran, hasn’t the threat itself put American lives in danger, sir?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, on the second — on your second question, there’s no doubt that when someone goes out of their way to be provocative in ways that we know can inflame the passions of over a billion Muslims around the world, at a time when we’ve got our troops in a lot of Muslim countries, that’s a problem. And it has made life a lot more difficult for our men and women in uniform who already have a very difficult job.

You don’t have to listen to the video from the start. The White House lets you click on links in blue and then it plays the video for that question and answer.

Click on following link at White House webpage on News Conference to hear the above comment.

“When Defense Gates called the pastor in Florida, were you “elevating somebody who is clearly from the fringe?” Did health care reform live up to its promise?”

Also the earlier Q and A:

Click on

“Nine years after the September 11th attacks, why do you think it is that we are now seeing such an increase in suspicion and outright resentment of Islam?”

Anne Kornblut.

Q Thank you, Mr. President. Nine years after the September 11th attacks, why do you think it is that we are now seeing such an increase in suspicion and outright resentment of Islam, especially given that it has been one of your priorities to increase — to improve relations with the Muslim world?

THE PRESIDENT: I think that at a time when the country is anxious generally and going through a tough time, then fears can surface, suspicions, divisions can surface in a society. And so I think that plays a role in it.

One of the things that I most admired about President Bush was after 9/11, him being crystal-clear about the fact that we were not at war with Islam. We were at war with terrorists and murderers who had perverted Islam, had stolen its banner to carry out their outrageous acts. And I was so proud of the country rallying around that idea, that notion that we are not going to be divided by religion; we’re not going to be divided by ethnicity. We are all Americans. We stand together against those who would try to do us harm.

And that’s what we’ve done over the last nine years. And we should take great pride in that. And I think it is absolutely important now for the overwhelming majority of the American people to hang on to that thing that is best in us, a belief in religious tolerance, clarity about who our enemies are — our enemies are al Qaeda and their allies who are trying to kill us, but have killed more Muslims than just about anybody on Earth. We have to make sure that we don’t start turning on each other.

And I will do everything that I can as long as I am President of the United States to remind the American people that we are one nation under God, and we may call that God different names but we remain one nation. And as somebody who relies heavily on my Christian faith in my job, I understand the passions that religious faith can raise. But I’m also respectful that people of different faiths can practice their religion, even if they don’t subscribe to the exact same notions that I do, and that they are still good people, and they are my neighbors and they are my friends, and they are fighting alongside us in our battles.

Obama gets twisted in his lies. The comment given first above which came second in the news conference shows that 1 billion Muslims are against us because of a single Koran burning. That shows it is a war of Islam against us. Obama’s other answer, repeated here, shows it really is all of Islam against us and all Muslims.

HE PRESIDENT: Well, on the second — on your second question, there’s no doubt that when someone goes out of their way to be provocative in ways that we know can inflame the passions of over a billion Muslims around the world, at a time when we’ve got our troops in a lot of Muslim countries, that’s a problem. And it has made life a lot more difficult for our men and women in uniform who already have a very difficult job.

By getting Barack Hussein Obama to admit that it really is a billion Muslims against us, Pastor Terry Jones shows that he is a true messenger of God to us. We should harken to Pastor Jones message that Islam is of the Devil and that it means our destruction and enslavement.

“Hyping Koran-burning pastor? It’s unfortunate but necessary
September 11, 2010 ”

THE HIGH-POWERED attention being directed at Florida pastor Terry Jones — a backwater extremist whose prominence derives solely from his plan to burn the Koran — is painful to most Americans. The entreaty from General David Petraeus, the personal call from Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, the comments by President Obama — all serve to aggrandize a figure on the distant fringes of the fundamentalist Christian community. But the damage to America’s image, and the danger that a mass burning of copies of the Koran would spark a backlash among Muslims around the world, are great enough to justify extraordinary measures.

So it is all Muslims who are against us. It is one pastor who shows this. Therefore that Pastor is showing us God’s Truth. This shows that Pastor Terry Jones is a true Prophet of God.

Jones gets the liberals twisted in their lies so that they admit that it is all Muslims who are against us and admit its Islam itself that is against us. They think it too. They show it by referencing Islam, a Billion Muslims, etc. They show us what they really think when they show us what they fear. Then they project their fear on us and call us bigots for fearing what they fear, except we say it and act on it. That is what distinguishes us from Lib cowards.

Rawstory Comments Hate Map of Ground Zero Site

September 10, 2010

Rawstory has a hate thread of comments on Fox’s map of the body parts around Ground Zero.

9/11/2001 was done by Muslims, but the hate that brought them here after the WTC 1993 attacks is shown in the Lib comments on this hate thread.

Islam and Liberalism are matched as Twin Hates against White Christian America as shown on this hate thread at Raw Story. Just as the Twin Towers loomed over New York at equal height, so the Twin Hates of Liberalism and Islam tower over New York and America in both the Ground Zero Mosque debate and the Pastor Terry Jones Koran burning debate.

Liberalism adopting Muslim hate and making Muslim immigration sacred shows that Liberalism wants to kill the West and the White Race and Christianity.

Islamo-Liberalism is the fusion hate of the White Race, the White West, and White Christian America.

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