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James Weinstein NJ Transit fired Derek Fenton Koran Burning Man

September 15, 2010


James Weinstein is the Executive Director of NJ TRANSIT, the third largest transit agency in the nation and the largest statewide. Mr. Weinstein is responsible for the agency’s bus, light rail, and commuter rail network, which carried more than 270 million passenger trips in Fiscal Year 2009. Mr. Weinstein oversees the agency’s 10,500-plus employees, and capital and operating budgets totaling more than $3 billion annually.
Prior to being appointed Executive Director, Mr. Weinstein served as a senior vice president of a global transportation consulting and engineering firm, since 2002. In that capacity, he was responsible for the firm’s highway and bridge projects throughout the United States. Before joining the firm, he was senior vice president of Amtrak’s Northeast Corridor, the busiest passenger rail line in the nation.
Mr. Weinstein previously served as New Jersey Commissioner of Transportation and Chairman of the NJ TRANSIT Board of Directors from 1998 to 2002. During his tenure, NJ TRANSIT advanced work on system expansion projects including the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail, River Line, and the Newark Light Rail extension to Broad Street Station, as well as new stations such as Frank R. Lautenberg Station at Secaucus Junction, Union Station and Montclair State University Station at Little Falls. The agency also introduced new modern light rail vehicles on the Newark Light Rail system, completed the restoration of historic Hoboken Terminal’s main waiting room and advanced the Montclair Connection, which enabled Midtown Direct service to begin on the Montclair-Boonton Line.

Mr. Weinstein formerly served as a Vice Chairman and member of the Board of Directors of the American Road and Transportation Builders Association and is on the advisory board of Rutgers University’s Voorhees Transportation Center. He has also served on the boards of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the Delaware River Port Authority and New Jersey’s toll agencies.

A lifelong resident of New Jersey, Mr. Weinstein holds a Bachelor of Arts degree in Philosophy from Seton Hall University and resides in Moorestown with his wife.


Chat live with Weinstein at Noon Sep 15 2010:

Robert at Stormfront did this research:

What about federal civil rights laws? Does NJ Transit get federal money? They could claim Weinstein fired him for not being Jewish or Muslim, but being a White Christian whom Bill Maher spreads hatred and disdain towards along with other MSM outlets. White Christians are a group subjected to open hatred by Jews in the media and from government and academia. So this could be argued as a basis of a civil rights claim against Weinstein and NJ Transit. Take the Jew rules to the Jews. The 1964 Civil Rights Act was written by Jew Norbert Schlei to stick it to Christian Whites North and South.

This appears to this observer to be obvious discrimination against one of the few Founding Stock Americans still living in New Jersey. This is ethnic cleansing by Ellis Islanders of FSA’s.

This is another reason for the South and Appalachia to seek separation from our rulers. Let them keep New York City and some coastal zones in New Jersey and a few other places. We should take our historic lands with us in the new country: Founding Stock America.


Derek Fenton Koran Page Burning Man fired from NJ Transit

September 15, 2010

Derek Fenton, the man who ripped pages from the Koran and burned them on 9/11 2010 was fired by New Jersey Transit for doing that.

“Mr. Fenton’s public actions violated New Jersey Transit’s code of ethics,” an agency statement said.

“NJ Transit concluded that Mr. Fenton violated his trust as a state employee and therefore [he] was dismissed.”

Who at NJ Transit made this decision? What religion, race, and ethnicity were they? To them, Derek Fenton was part of White Middle America, a country and a people they hate? It would appear so.

Whiteness and Koran Burning Holding non-whites accountable for the Koran

September 14, 2010

Non-whites wrote the Koran. It is a book bull of malice, evil and twisted concepts of justice, honesty and morality. It teaches lying, cruelty, stealing, and murder. It does so intentionally. It was created to justify conquest, subjugation and tyranny.

Muslim commentators today say it is incompatible with freedom and democracy. It is Unitary Totalitarianism. It doesn’t allow non-Muslims to criticize it, even to point out what Muslim commentators say about it, because then it sounds like criticism and denunciation of it.

The Koran is of the Devil in the sense of teaching evil and doing evil. The Koran is of the Devil in the sense of being an inverted morality of doing evil and cruelty.

Islam does not allow criticism of itself because it is totalitarian evil. Thus burning the Koran, with or without bacon fat, is something they can’t tolerate. Thus they are going to make people afraid to do it.

Whites are afraid to hold non-Whites accountable. Thus when a White burns a Koran, its an action of a White rejecting as immoral the morality of non-Whites. Some non-white groups such as Arabs and blacks manifest much of the immorality that the Koran teaches. It is evidently in their genes. These are the two groups that have adopted Islam to the greatest extent. The morality fits the genes.

So when Whites burn the Koran they are saying the truth that these non-White groups, blacks and Arabs are genetically inferior in morality. They have a genetically inferior morality in them.

This is what liberals really believe but are afraid to say. They believe it more than most others. So when a White burns the Koran or says Islam is of the Devil, the libs hear that Arab and Muslim genes are being denounced, because that is what they believe.

To libs, its saying Arab and black genes are of the Devil. This happens to be what libs actually believe. So when a Middle Class White burns a Koran they call him a Whitetard, bigot, redneck, etc.

This is why Libs hate the Tea Party which they consider morphs into the Koran Burning Party. They do equate both to the Tea Klan Party. This is because to libs any effort by Whites to control the violence, cruelty and often evil that blacks and Arabs show is racism. This is because libs believe these behaviors in Arabs and blacks really are genetic.

This also means that as Arabs and blacks increase in number and become closer to a majority, lib Whites become even more afraid to speak openly of what they fear. So they are even more inclined to denounce the fellow White who is a Koran burner for provoking the evil races they really believe Arabs and blacks to be.

Clearly, this is a course of ruin to continue non-white immigration and welfare and benefits to these groups that Libs believe are genetically evil races. To let them have power over us is indeed the greatest folly of our race.

Moreover, Islam selects for genes that fit its immorality. So each generation, the gene pool of Arabs and black Muslims becomes more like Islam. Somali blacks are worse than blacks descended from slaves in the US in organizing evil. Somali pirates are the worst on the seas, the most bold and persistent.

The policy of coddling black Somali Muslim pirates illustrates all the mistakes of liberalism. Libs blame Whites for being in the area. I.e. White Flight is the answer.

Same as with busing in schools, White Flight is the answer for rich White libs and suffering is the answer for prole Whites. Whom Libs then denounce for every aspect of their life.

If anyone is degrading prole Whites, its Libs by making them integrate with blacks and other non-Whites. Its Libs for teaching them amoral PC that doesn’t hold blacks, Arabs and others accountable not just for their act, but for their genes.

Genes are part of reality. People have to be held accountable for their genes. This sounds harsh, but its the only way to have a functioning biological group.

Nature holds every living thing accountable for its genes. This is the basis of life. This is the Evolution Law of the Jungle. You are accountable for your genes. This includes the morality your genes give you.

Genes and morality come from God in a sense. The genes and morality of Arabs is in the Koran. Their genes and morality are of the Devil. Winnowing them out is God’s law.

Because their genes and morality are of the Devil as shown by their book, the Koran, they have to be winnowed out. This is because their races are of the Devil genetically.

This is what Libs can’t stand to hear, precisely because its what they believe. White Flight is based on the belief that black behavior is of the Devil. This is done from all blacks. That is because White Flight is the belief that black behavior is of black genes and that both are of the Devil.

Prole Whites are not of the Devil in their genes. But Libs treat them as if they are. They make them live with blacks, Arabs, Somali, Hmong, etc. Then when they complain about the behavior of these groups, Libs call them bigots. Libs hear them complaining about the genes of those groups, which is what Libs really believe.

Because prole Whites reject these groups and say their genes, morality and Koran are of the Devil, libs denounce the prole Whites as Whitetards, bigots, racist rednecks (as if that was not redundant to libs), and so on. Libs can’t get enough of denouncing prole White Christianity which is what binds society together in a White morality that is of God and not of the Devil.

Prole White Christianity is the morality Libs want to enjoy in their prole servants, but can’t stand that it is in the genes of Whites but not all the other races they want to substitute for their prole White servants. Thus Libs are in a contradiction. They resolve that by venting hate on Prole Whites and Prole White Christianity as responsible for the contradiction between what Libs want, non-White servants with White genetic morality and not to have Prole Whites around them.

The Heroes of 911 2010 are the Koran burners

September 12, 2010

The heroes of 9/11/2010 are the men, and they were mostly men, who burned Korans and the women who stood by them. There was one video on Youtube of a a woman standing by her man while he said a prayer. Then she throws the Koran into the fire.

Stand by your man
While he burns the Koran

The anthem of a new generation.

We are not a Mosque Nation. We are not a Koranic nation. We are a nation of rugged uncouth individualists. But we are also a nation of social creatures. We have to champion the uncouth among us who burned Korans, as well as those who brought the idea out and sustained it.

Pastor Terry Jones is one of the heroes. He made this happen. Even though he had to fold at the end from the power exerted on him, he enabled many others to burn the Koran and be noticed.

Burning the Koran is now part of every 9/11 to come. That is something Pastor Terry Jones did. That is a great contribution.

The man who ripped pages near the Ground Zero Mosque site and burned them walked away with the personal hero creds for 9/11. He ranks with firefighters on the original 9/11. Although he did not give his life, his action took moral courage that few of us can ever hope to find.

Lawrence Auster was the first by my count to post any photos of a Koran burning on 9/11. I was searching on Youtube based on time uploaded during the day, and he had his photos up from one of his correspondents before any video posted on Youtube.

This makes Lawrence Auster one of the heroes. In terms of a named person to go after he has taken relative risk by posting those photos. What the absolute risk is we don’t know. However, on a relative risk basis, Auster was a leader and a hero of 9/11 2010.

Diana West and Laura Wood also come in there. We see that women can be heroines and we still have them. Diana West has been made an example of by the establishment. They are giving her the silent treatment.

The many who posted videos on youtube, many with their faces revealed are heroes and when women stood by their man, heroines as well.

Yesterday, the following were among videos posted on Youtube of Koran burning or the like.

Koran burning

Young man burns a Koran with his wife next to him. They are holding hands and they burn the Koran. This is the future. This is the present. They are a good Christian couple. They pray for persecuted Christians. This is part of our movement. (Some pro-White sites have had a hard time embracing Koran burning or Christians who burn the Koran and may not be explicitly White Nationalist. We have to be a big tent.)

Westboro Baptist Church Burns Koran 9/11 2010

Koran Burning at Ground Zero, Man burns Quran on 9 11

Burning a Koran on burn a Koran day September 11, 2010

burning the koran,11-09-10.wmv

Raw Story hate thread on 911 White Man burning the Koran near the Ground Zero Mosque:

Koran rippers at White House

One can search on:

Andrew Beacham Koran ripping White House

Many others ripped or burned Korans around America or put bacon in one and let their dog go after it. All are part of the Koran Burning Party. All were White that I saw. This was a White Christian Founding Stock American event for the most part.

It was the uncouth White Christian Middle Americans that Obama disparaged as clinging to guns and God. These are the people ridiculed by the Main Stream Media. The MSM ridicule them because they hold up a light to Main Stream Evil, which is what our establishment is and does.

The hate the MSM have for them knows no bounds. They ridicule Pastors like Terry Jones or the Phelps Westboro Baptist Church. They call the White man who burned the Koran at the Ground Zero Mosque hate filled. This was in NY Daily News. He wasn’t hate filled. It was the hecklers who were hate filled.

Freepers ridicule calling him “hate filled”:

The search: hate filled man ripped pages Koran New York

is interesting to observe:

9/11/2010 was the first Koran burning day. May 9/11’s to come be Koran Burning Days every year. Perhaps more will do it next year.

Maybe its time to form the Koran Burning Party. This is the spirit of the Tea Party. This is the type of courage it took in 1773 at the Boston Tea Party. Those people are now long since ethnically cleansed from Boston, except for a remnant. But we need to feel their spirit.

The Koran Burning Party is the courage, audacity and uncouthness of the original Boston Tea Party. Sam Adams would be a Koran burner today.

Koran Burning Man was not some over old geezer. He was a young man. So were many of those posting on Youtube. This is a new generation that has come of age in a time of open conflict with Islam and that recognizes the foe, Islam itself. We are at war with Islam and always have been.

This is the time for the Koran Burning Patriot to come to the aid of his country. That call was made by Pastor Terry Jones. Young men of courage answered that call and some older.

This is a turn in the war to save the White West and to save White America and White Christian America. God’s Will be done. We must fight on because we have no other choice. In this war, defeat is extinction. Young men realize that and some young women will stand by their man in this war of survival of The White People.


The Ground Zero Natural American Man Koran burner.

September 11, 2010

The Unknown American Hero. The Every Man who comes to the aid of his country. This is the true Minute Man with the Spirit of 76. Not a cash gimmick, the real American Man who comes to the aid of his country and then goes off back to his life.

In an age of fake sports heroes taking performance enhancement aids, this man just is the raw natural manhood of America. This is the spirit of the frontier. This is the spirit that can not be contained. This is the American Man.

Islam can not defeat this man. Liberalism can not extinct him. He just is and will not be defeated. He does not accept defeat but insists on victory, now.

He came. He Koran burned. He conquered Islam and Liberalism. That is why both hate the Classic American man, the man you hope for when there is a fire, or medical emergency or home invasion.

Koran Burning Man has the look of the White man you hope to see pull up with flashing lights when real peril is in your home.

Hate filled hecklers, Lib girlie men, surround the American Man as he rips pages from the Koran and burns them.

You can smell the fear of Islam in Liberalism.

Liberalism can’t protect you from Islam. Neither can Lib Christianity. So they both have failed as things to believe in to keep you safe. Follow them and you are not safe and lose your country. Misery, fear and death are your future. Its not Social Security, Medicare and safe schools and hospitals that give you a feeling of care.

Obama and Dems can’t protect you from Islam, 3rd worldism, etc. They can’t protect your job or Social Security or Medicare. If they can’t keep the government solvent, they can’t protect your benefits.

They can’t protect you from anything. Not Muslims who want to burn the flag, take Americans hostage, knock down our buildings, blow up our airplanes, shoot up our forts and take away our freedom.

They can’t protect you from Chinese imports. They can’t protect you from New York Multiculti bankers and CEO’s.

You want that protection, you have to turn to the American Man. The Man from Middle America. The Man who looks like Middle America.

A look that Libs hate and love to ridicule, but the look you hope for when your house is on fire, when your family member is on the floor in pain, when thugs are invading your home.

Who do you look for in peril? That classic American White Man. That is Mr. Koran Burner at Ground Zero.

He came. He Koran burned. He left. Just like George Washington.

Libs ridicule his look but they sure want to see him when its their child not breathing, their home invaded, their house on fire. They want to see that rugged American White Man look and nothing else. He is Mr. 911 White Man.

He is now one of the heroes of Ground Zero 911. He has physical courage. But he also has a moral courage that far transcends physical risk. He has shown us the way when all were against him.

The 911 firefighters and police were not surrounded by Hate Hecklers. Nor those on airplanes, there being fewer Muslims in those days. But despite them, Mr 911 White Man does the right thing and burns the Koran, a book of pure wickedness.

While all admire sin and lies, like broadcasters oohing over obviously juiced up baseball players, Mr. 911 White Man does what is right and shows the truth in his actions. That is moral courage. That is the courage of Christ scattering the Money Changers and those who profane the Land of God.

That is Masculine Christianity. That is White Christianity. That is White America.

That is what Libs mock on TV and want to see at their school and at their hospital and in their physical crisis when they need help. That is what Libs flee to even as they hate the rugged White Men who protect them and their children. That is the only hope America has.

When the rugged White Man who knows what is right and does it is gone, there is only 3rd world squalor, white flight and death. That is when the elderly are without security, financial or physical or medical. That is when children go to school in fear and come home with PTSD. That is the horror that Libs and Islam both intend for The White People. That is what we must stand up against.

That is why we must keep America White. That is why we must stop non-White immigration and send non-Whites back. Otherwise, our road ahead is that of Detroit, Haiti, Katrina, South Africa and Zimbabwe.

Mr. 911 White Man is our hope. Mr. 911 Koran Burning White Man is our defender.

But only if we can find it in ourselves to speak up for him and those like him. If we lack that courage, we will surely perish as a people and culture and civilization. That is the moral truth of our time.


More on Mr. 911 Koran Burning White Man and comparison to the real haters around the world, Liberal and Muslim. People who hate The White People, the White West, White Christianity, White Europe, White Canada, White Australia, White New Zealand, and White America, the White Homelands.

Today is a turning point. It comes from the people. It comes from an individual. But unless we rally round, we will be defeated by Islam and Liberalism.

But the smell of fear in Liberalism and in Islam is thick in the air. Their fear is palpable. Their wild extremes of threats and bullying show their fear. They know we can defeat them. But only if we are unified and determined.

We can only defeat them if we know what we are fighting for. What we are fighting for are White Homelands. What we are fighting for is to send non-Whites back to their own continents, the largest and most desirable on earth.

What we are fighting for are White schools that are safe learning environments. What we are fighting for is colleges and work places that have never known affirmative action or the racism that non-Whites routinely display in every position of power including juries and judges, bosses, prosecutors, and presidents.

What we are fighting for is what we had. What we are fighting for is what we see in the movies from the 1950’s. What we are fighting for is what is ours by right. What we are fighting for is what we let slip away out of cowardice, fear, and slovenliness of mind and spirit.

What we are fighting for is White America. What we are fighting for is White Christian Europe. What we are fighting for is ourselves and our White posterity. That is what we must fight for and fight for now because the time to run is past. We have nowhere to run and nowhere to hide from the horror we have brought here in our cowardly dream state of Liberalism.

We are up against the wall and what we need now is Mr. 911 Koran Burning White Man. We need to rally around him as our leader. That is our only hope. But we still have time, if we speak up now. Not later, but now.

Stop non-white immigration. End affirmative action. Reverse the incentives for immigration so non-whites go back to where they came from.

That is what we must demand. That is our right as a people. We have the right to demand that the genocide of our people and our ethnic cleansing be stopped and reversed in its totality.

We have the right for White California of the 1950’s, White Europe, White Canada and White Australia. But we won’t get it or survive if we don’t speak up and demand it as our right, as our human right, as our God Given right, as our right won for us by generations of ancestors with more courage and more truth than we can imagine to express, but which they did boldly.

Libs denounce that and the real leaders who spoke those words in generations past. Men like John C. Calhoun and Jefferson Davis and Benjamin Franklin. Our leaders today are not our leaders, but our vipers. Those who Libs call vipers in the past were our real leaders then. We need such men now. They are rugged, uncouth and prejudiced according to Libs. In a nutshell the reason why is they protected their people and said so openly.

The White Founding Fathers said their people had a right to be a (White) people and have a land of their own. Those are the actual words of the Founders. They said we are a people with a right to a country of our own. That is what we must say again today.

We are not a proposition nation. We are a White Nation and otherwise we are a Nothing Nation. That is what was exposed today and in the weeks past over the Koran burning and Ground Zero Mosque.

The Liberal Nation is No Nation. The Liberal Nation is a Nation of Nothingness and a Nation of Nothings.

The fear of that Nation of Nothingness has wafted throughout the land for over a month, until the TV stinks with it. We could smell it all over this land, the stink of Liberal fear of Islamo-thuggery.

None of the establishment could stand up to the thugs of Islam. Only White rugged American men can do that. Those are the types ridiculed by the Vipers who occupy the positions of leadership but are leaders not, but craven cowards who lie while destruction moves steadily through our lands.

As the fear and cowardice of the establishment permeated the air, they vented their hatred against rugged White American men. They ridicule their women, Sarah Palin as a symbol of that.

They ridicule the men, the men who come to save them with flashing lights when there is real peril and then are sent away with all the names Liberals have for them until the moment of real peril comes in the night or on a morning like 9/11/2001.

Well the real peril now is the cravenness of the entire establishment including the army, whose fear is summed up in its prosecution of LTC Lakin a real White man who insists on the truth which is what they fear the most.

The establishment fears the truth because they fear us. That is why they ridicule us and our leaders. Leaders like Pastor Terry Jones. Leaders not Vipers.

The establishment holds up their viper selves as leaders and ridicule the natural leaders who have always led us in the past, men like George Washington, a rugged natural tower of manhood like what we saw today in Mr. 911 Koran Burning White Man.

That is who we must turn to and who we must support along with leaders like Pastor Terry Jones, a man who speaks the truth about Islam and Liberalism both. That is why they yanked his websites. You know that is the real truth.

That is the Totalitarian Teachable Moment. That is what we must speak up against while we still have a White land to do it in. When they pull our microphone, we know they are afraid, of us.

Speak up now. Seize the moment. Be a man or a woman and speak up for the truth, courage and honor of your ancestors, because that is all your children can ever hope for. Now is the moment.

Pastor Terry Jones Fran Ingram Ten Reasons to Burn a Koran

September 11, 2010

Note that the Ten Reasons to Burn a Koran was written by Fran Ingram not Pastor Terry Jones.

N. at Vdare provided following link that Lawrence Auster posted. Auster supports the Koran burning by Pastor Terry Jones, even though Jones is off it appears. However, Bob Old and the Phelps family at Westboro Baptist Church are saying they will burn a Koran today. Bob Old says at noon and will post video on Youtube of it.

=Fran Ingram:

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Ten Reasons to Burn a Koran

By Fran Ingram – Posted on 02 September 2010

On 9/11/10 we are burning Korans to raise awareness and warn. In a sense it is neither an act of love nor of hate. We see, as we state in the Ten Reasons below, that Islam is a danger. We are using this act to warn about the teaching and ideology of Islam, which we do hate as it is hateful. We do not hate any people, however. We love, as God loves, all the people in the world and we want them to come to a knowledge of the truth. To warn of danger and harm is a loving act. God is love and truth. If you know the truth it can set you free. The world is in bondage to the massive grip of the lies of Islam. These are:


The Koran teaches that Jesus Christ, the Crucified, Risen Son of God, King of Kings and Lord of Lords was NOT the Son of God, nor was he crucified (a well documented historical fact that ONLY Islam denies). This teaching removes the possibility of salvation and eternal life in heaven for all Islam’s believers. They face eternal damnation in hell if they do not repent.


The Koran does not have an eternal origin. It is not recorded in heaven. The Almighty God, Creator of the World, is NOT it’s source. It is not holy. It’s writings are human in origin, a concoction of old and new teachings. This has been stated and restated for centuries by scholars since Islam’s beginnings, both Moslem and non-Moslem.


The Koran’s teaching includes Arabian idolatry, paganism, rites and rituals. These are demonic, an ongoing satanic stronghold under which Moslems and the world suffer.


The earliest writings that are known to exist about the Prophet Mohammad were recorded 120 years after his death. All of the Islamic writings (the Koran and the Hadith, the biographies, the traditions and histories) are confused, contradictory and inconsistent. Maybe Mohammad never existed. We have no conclusive account about what he said or did. Yet Moslems follow the destructive teachings of Islam without question.


Mohammad’s life and message cannot be respected. The first Meccan period of his leadership seems to have been religiously motivated and a search for the truth. But in the second Medina period he was “corrupted by power and worldly ambitions.” (Ibn Warraq) These are characteristics that God hates. They also led to political assassinations and massacres which continue to be carried out on a regular basis by his followers today.


Islamic Law is totalitarian in nature. There is no separation of church and state. It is irrational. It is supposedly immutable and cannot be changed. It must be accepted without criticism. It has many similarities to Nazism, Communism and Fascism. It is not compatible with Western Civilization.


Islam is not compatible with democracy and human rights. The notion of a moral individual capable of making decisions and taking responsibility for them does not exist in Islam. The attitude towards women in Islam as inferior possessions of men has led to countless cases of mistreatment and abuse for which Moslem men receive little or no punishment, and in many cases are encouraged to commit such acts, and are even praised for them. This is a direct fruit of the teachings of the Koran.


A Muslim does not have the right to change his religion. Apostasy is punishable by death.


Deep in the Islamic teaching and culture is the irrational fear and loathing of the West.


Islam is a weapon of Arab imperialism and Islamic colonialism. Wherever Islam has or gains political power, Christians, Jews and all non-Moslems receive persecution, discrimination, are forced to convert. There are massacres and churches, synagogues, temples and other places of worship are destroyed.

From Acts 19 (Amplified)

18Many also of those who were now believers came making full confession and thoroughly exposing their [former deceptive and evil] practices.

19And many of those who had practiced curious, magical arts collected their books and [throwing them, book after book, on the pile] burned them in the sight of everybody. When they counted the value of them, they found it amounted to 50,000 pieces of silver (about $9,300).

20Thus the Word of the Lord [concerning the attainment through Christ of eternal salvation in the kingdom of God] grew and spread and intensified, prevailing mightily.

Like the Christians in Acts 19, we are publicly burning a book that is demonic. Many of our greatest supporters are ex-Moslems. They know these evils first hand. We are not, like the Nazis, stealing books, destroying properties or harming any people. We are not Nazis nor are we like Nazis. The Christians in Acts 19 did not go on from their scroll burning to harm anyone. They used the public burning as an opportunity, a demonstration to preach the truth. Only to preach and leave the decision of whether to follow the truth or not.

Do not forget POINT SIX. Islam (not us) is totalitarian in nature, like Nazism, Communism, and Fascism. This evil nature of Islam needs to be seen. Moslems around the world burn and kill on a regular basis, every week, properties and people. All you have to do is follow the news. The many death threats we are receiving, the warnings about terror attacks also prove our point. Do Christians make these threats when Bibles or churches are burned? No.

We have fallen asleep since 9/11/01 and have been hoodwinked by the growth of a (for now) non violent Islam. Shall we give in to threats, then, and allow Islam to grow in America unopposed? We at Dove World Outreach Center will not, even if it costs us our lives. For those who support us, we say thank you for standing with us in courage. For those who oppose us, we say wake up and do not give in to the fear and lies!

International Burn a Koran Day on Facebook

For more on Islam and the Burn a Koran Day, see our blog and leave comments here:

(The post continues at the link)

Others standing with Pastor Terry Jones in some way are Jihad Watch, Gates of Vienna, and Diana West. Those who have supported the Koran burning itself include Lawrence Auster, Laura Wood, and some posters or commenters at all of those sites.

Links to Diana West articles on this

Jihad Watch and Gates of Vienna have many threads with excellent comments on them.

Gates Vienna archives are hard to find so I post a couple links


Old Atlantic Lighthouse said…

The Baron’s original post is proven better with each hour of news hysteria over the Koran burning. I have tried the Baron’s comparison out on someone who lived during WWII and they agree with the point.

Moreover, Hollywood really was ridiculing Nazism, Hitler and Mein Kampf all through the war. Germany never threatened to retaliate against American POWs because of Hollywood movies depicting Nazis badly.

Hollywood during WWII was semi-official propaganda. This is a single pastor in Florida with a congregation of 50.

To reiterate the main message brilliantly shown by the Baron.
The White House is saying its only a few radicals in caves that we are fighting. They say its not Islam we are fighting. They said this morning that this one pastor will take back all our work in Afghanistan. (I couldn’t confirm that statement on the WH webpage.)

Petraeus and the White House are saying our troops will suffer from this single pastor’s Koran burning.
The comparison of all the Hollywood movies during WWII mocking Hitler and Nazism in comparison to this one pastor, the Danish Cartoons, etc. does in fact prove that we are fighting all of Islam. It also proves that this is the view of a greater percentage of Muslims today than of Nazis during WWII. It shows a greater percentage of Muslims today want our utter destruction and our implacably against us than Nazis during WWII.
9/08/2010 7:04 AM
Blogger Zenster said…

Old Atlantic Lighthouse: The comparison of all the Hollywood movies during WWII mocking Hitler and Nazism in comparison to this one pastor, the Danish Cartoons, etc. does in fact prove that we are fighting all of Islam. It also proves that this is the view of a greater percentage of Muslims today than of Nazis during WWII. It shows a greater percentage of Muslims today want our utter destruction and [are] implacably against us than Nazis during WWII. [emphasis added]

This is an excellent observation and also an important logical extension of the Baron’s superb history lesson.


Once the “moderate” Muslim street remains deafening silent.

How much longer are we to tolerate this intentionally deceptive farce of Muslim “moderation”?

This is yet one more sterling opportunity for Muslims to come out against Islamic intolerance. Instead, they are milking this like the last cow on the farm.
9/08/2010 1:29 PM
Blogger Zenster said…

I’m going to cross-post my latest comment in the Why Do Our Soldiers Fight? thread:

As a dedicated bibliophile, I feel obliged to go on the record yet one more time about how reluctant I am to encourage book burning.

But let there be no dispute that it is a person’s most basic right to burn whatever book they own whenever they want to.

That said, there remains one unequivocal fact:


Burning this piece of ideological filth is a direct message and straight-forward object lesson regarding what all Muslims should anticipate if they refuse to abandon jihad.


Either Muslims begin to make this connection or understand that they will have no reason to complain when Damascus, Islamabad, Ankara, Kabul, Tripoli, Riyadh, Baghdad, Tehran, Cairo and other Muslim cities go up in flames.

In my own mind, it is not a question of “if” but when this will happen. The only real question is whether conventional or unconventional weapons will be involved.
9/08/2010 1:53 PM
Blogger Old Atlantic Lighthouse said…

Zenster, thank you for your kind words and your powerful posts. I appreciate your highlighting from my posts as well as in your own well thought out and structured comments.

We are submitting to Islam with the reaction of our government. Burning the Koran as you point out is how we send a message of victory instead of defeat to the Muslim world.

That is precisely the message our elites won’t send because they don’t want us to win. Our winning would be a victory for unreconstructed White bigots. This they can not be for. They want us to lose. This is the message the Muslims and we both hear.
9/08/2010 4:01 PM

There are other good comments by Zenster at several threads. These should be collected onto a blog so as not to be lost. Some more Zenster comments here:

There are others at Gates of Vienna, Jihad Watch, Lawrence Auster, and likely Diana West and Laura Wood as well as other sites.

Hate threads at Raw Story

Some patriot voices at WaPo thread:

Note Old Atlantic was banned at Raw Story and stealth banned at Washington Post.

Pastor Terry Jones a modern day Prophet of God

September 10, 2010

Pastor Terry Jones is a modern day true Prophet of God. How do we know this? The hate of the Liberal media is one sign. The Trials and Tribulations of Pastor Jones are described by Diana West below.

City of Gainesville has denied the church a burn permit.

RBC Bank has called in its mortgage on the property, meaning that there is now a limited time to pay it off.

Cotton All-Lines Insurance has cancelled its commercial insurance policy on the church property, which puts the mortgage into immediate default.

And a commenter at Lawrence Auster’s View from the Right notes that Dove World’s internet provider Rackspace shut down the Dove World church website.

Islam is about our non-existence. Liberalism worships Islam because Islam hates the White Race, the White West and Christianity. Moreover, Liberalism worships Islam, because unlike Liberalism, Islam really can finish the White Race, White West and Christianity.

Pastor Jones has brought down the world wide hate of Liberalism and Islam on himself. This is a sign from God that Pastor Jones is acting for God now in burning the Koran.

Because God has given us these signs of Pastor Jones doing God’s Work, we should support Pastor Jones and support the burning of Korans. Even if Pastor Jones is unable to complete the act of burning a Koran, he has lit us the way.

The Bush Obama reign has kissed the Koran and burned the Bible. Pastor Terry Jones stands athwart this history shouting stop. He is the true Prophet of God on burning the Koran, a book of wickedness of a religion of wickedness. That is why Liberalism kisses the Koran.

The comments of the Liberal media show that they believe that all of Islam is united by the single burning of one Koran by one obscure pastor of a small congregation. Barack Hussein Obama said something very close to that at a recent White House press conference.

Q Thank you, Mr. President. I wonder if I can get you to weigh in on the wisdom of building a mosque a couple of blocks from Ground Zero. We know that the organizers have the constitutional right. What would it say about this country if they were somehow talked out of doing that? And hasn’t the Florida minister’s threat to burn a couple hundred copies of the Koran, hasn’t the threat itself put American lives in danger, sir?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, on the second — on your second question, there’s no doubt that when someone goes out of their way to be provocative in ways that we know can inflame the passions of over a billion Muslims around the world, at a time when we’ve got our troops in a lot of Muslim countries, that’s a problem. And it has made life a lot more difficult for our men and women in uniform who already have a very difficult job.

You don’t have to listen to the video from the start. The White House lets you click on links in blue and then it plays the video for that question and answer.

Click on following link at White House webpage on News Conference to hear the above comment.

“When Defense Gates called the pastor in Florida, were you “elevating somebody who is clearly from the fringe?” Did health care reform live up to its promise?”

Also the earlier Q and A:

Click on

“Nine years after the September 11th attacks, why do you think it is that we are now seeing such an increase in suspicion and outright resentment of Islam?”

Anne Kornblut.

Q Thank you, Mr. President. Nine years after the September 11th attacks, why do you think it is that we are now seeing such an increase in suspicion and outright resentment of Islam, especially given that it has been one of your priorities to increase — to improve relations with the Muslim world?

THE PRESIDENT: I think that at a time when the country is anxious generally and going through a tough time, then fears can surface, suspicions, divisions can surface in a society. And so I think that plays a role in it.

One of the things that I most admired about President Bush was after 9/11, him being crystal-clear about the fact that we were not at war with Islam. We were at war with terrorists and murderers who had perverted Islam, had stolen its banner to carry out their outrageous acts. And I was so proud of the country rallying around that idea, that notion that we are not going to be divided by religion; we’re not going to be divided by ethnicity. We are all Americans. We stand together against those who would try to do us harm.

And that’s what we’ve done over the last nine years. And we should take great pride in that. And I think it is absolutely important now for the overwhelming majority of the American people to hang on to that thing that is best in us, a belief in religious tolerance, clarity about who our enemies are — our enemies are al Qaeda and their allies who are trying to kill us, but have killed more Muslims than just about anybody on Earth. We have to make sure that we don’t start turning on each other.

And I will do everything that I can as long as I am President of the United States to remind the American people that we are one nation under God, and we may call that God different names but we remain one nation. And as somebody who relies heavily on my Christian faith in my job, I understand the passions that religious faith can raise. But I’m also respectful that people of different faiths can practice their religion, even if they don’t subscribe to the exact same notions that I do, and that they are still good people, and they are my neighbors and they are my friends, and they are fighting alongside us in our battles.

Obama gets twisted in his lies. The comment given first above which came second in the news conference shows that 1 billion Muslims are against us because of a single Koran burning. That shows it is a war of Islam against us. Obama’s other answer, repeated here, shows it really is all of Islam against us and all Muslims.

HE PRESIDENT: Well, on the second — on your second question, there’s no doubt that when someone goes out of their way to be provocative in ways that we know can inflame the passions of over a billion Muslims around the world, at a time when we’ve got our troops in a lot of Muslim countries, that’s a problem. And it has made life a lot more difficult for our men and women in uniform who already have a very difficult job.

By getting Barack Hussein Obama to admit that it really is a billion Muslims against us, Pastor Terry Jones shows that he is a true messenger of God to us. We should harken to Pastor Jones message that Islam is of the Devil and that it means our destruction and enslavement.

“Hyping Koran-burning pastor? It’s unfortunate but necessary
September 11, 2010 ”

THE HIGH-POWERED attention being directed at Florida pastor Terry Jones — a backwater extremist whose prominence derives solely from his plan to burn the Koran — is painful to most Americans. The entreaty from General David Petraeus, the personal call from Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, the comments by President Obama — all serve to aggrandize a figure on the distant fringes of the fundamentalist Christian community. But the damage to America’s image, and the danger that a mass burning of copies of the Koran would spark a backlash among Muslims around the world, are great enough to justify extraordinary measures.

So it is all Muslims who are against us. It is one pastor who shows this. Therefore that Pastor is showing us God’s Truth. This shows that Pastor Terry Jones is a true Prophet of God.

Jones gets the liberals twisted in their lies so that they admit that it is all Muslims who are against us and admit its Islam itself that is against us. They think it too. They show it by referencing Islam, a Billion Muslims, etc. They show us what they really think when they show us what they fear. Then they project their fear on us and call us bigots for fearing what they fear, except we say it and act on it. That is what distinguishes us from Lib cowards.

Rawstory Comments Hate Map of Ground Zero Site

September 10, 2010

Rawstory has a hate thread of comments on Fox’s map of the body parts around Ground Zero.

9/11/2001 was done by Muslims, but the hate that brought them here after the WTC 1993 attacks is shown in the Lib comments on this hate thread.

Islam and Liberalism are matched as Twin Hates against White Christian America as shown on this hate thread at Raw Story. Just as the Twin Towers loomed over New York at equal height, so the Twin Hates of Liberalism and Islam tower over New York and America in both the Ground Zero Mosque debate and the Pastor Terry Jones Koran burning debate.

Liberalism adopting Muslim hate and making Muslim immigration sacred shows that Liberalism wants to kill the West and the White Race and Christianity.

Islamo-Liberalism is the fusion hate of the White Race, the White West, and White Christian America.

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