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Mike Huckabee v Truth Wayne Dumond

December 7, 2007

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Eugene_DuMond

Huffington Post include victim letters asking Governor Huckabee not to pardon Wayne Dumond and warning he would rape and likely kill.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/05/exclusive-the-complete-h_n_75373.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/04/documents-expose-huckabee_n_75362.html

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/12/05/huckabee-on-dumond-the-parole-board-members-who-said-i-lobbied-them-are-lying/

Murray S. Waas

http://www.arktimes.com/Articles/ArticleViewer.aspx?ArticleID=154e1aad-fd18-4efd-8d80-b5dab8559419

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/05/former-aide-contradicts-h_n_75519.html

Directly contradicting Mike Huckabee’s claims, his former senior aide tells the Huffington Post that, as governor of Arkansas, Huckabee indeed told the state’s parole board that he supported the release of a convicted rapist.

The senior aide, Olan W. “Butch” Reeves, personally attended a controversial parole board meeting with Huckabee in Oct. 1996.

“The clear impression that I came away with from the meeting was that he favored Dumond’s release,” Reeves said, referring to convicted rapist Wayne Dumond. “And I can understand why board members would believe that to be the case.”

This stands in stark contrast to Huckabee’s assertion, repeated at a press conference today that he “did not ask [the board] to do anything.” When asked directly about trying to influence the board, Huckabee responded: “No. I did not. Let me categorically say that I did not.”

==Huckabee’s side

wayne dumond site:mikehuckabee.com

Huckabee claims everyone is lying?

Former parole board members lied.

The women who said not to release him he also claims lie?

A former aide he claims lies?

If Huckabee turns out to be a liar on this and many other things, we have to ask, why do evangelicals fall for this type of con over and over again?

==Current Arkansas Procedure

http://governor.arkansas.gov/office_overview.html#4

Executive Clemency

The Governor’s Clemency Office processes all requests for and inquiries about Executive Clemency, oversees and coordinates investigations, prepares reports and drafts Executive Clemency Orders for the Governor. This office also acts as the liaison with government officials (federal, state, and county), various agencies, and parties interested in clemency.

Under Arkansas Statute §16-93-204 , the Parole Board has the authority to assist the Governor in exercising his authority in granting reprieves, commutations, and pardons, and shall perform such other services as may be required by the Governor in exercising his powers of executive clemency.

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Governors in Arkansas grant pardons and commutations. The parole board grants parole.

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What is beginning to emerge is that Mike Huckabee is a brazen liar. He has been living a lie on this since 1996.
Another reporter Huckabee apparently lied to, Byron York, although York doesn’t say that, it appears from his prior interview and the other facts that Huckabee lied to York in the summer of 2007 on this case:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NTcyMTM5YzRiMzVjMjA3MGEwMjUwM2Y3NGJiMzM1YWY=&w=MQ==

Following is very good, as is Byron York above.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/7/11314/0468

http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_08_11_04/huckabee8.html

__Governors seldom reduce sentences in other states – and almost never for murderers serving life without parole or for rapists or for habitual drunk drivers, while in Arkansas it’s a regular habit with Huckabee.
___ Other governors use their clemency power only rarely, while Huckabee has made it routine. As we’ve told you before, he has issued more than 700 pardons and commutations during his eight years in office – more than 137 this year alone – and more than his three predecessors combined.
___ Here are the figures for neighboring states since 1996, when Huckabee took office (and keep in mind the population of these states is nearly 20 times ours):
___ >> Louisiana – 213.
___ >> Mississippi – 24.
___ >> Missouri – 79.
___ >> Oklahoma – 178.
___ >> Tennessee – 32.
___ >> Texas – 98
(in-cludes 36 inmates released because they were convicted on drug charges with planted evidence).
___ Total: 624 vs. Huckabee’s 703.
___ Governors in neighboring states almost never grant killers clemency, while Huckabee has commuted the sentences of a dozen murderers.

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Huckabee has lied about his prior positions on immigration? He has lied about his expenses while governor of Arkansas? Huckabee is the worst of Clinton and Bush.

==Paul Mirengoff:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2007/12/019208.php

==Huckabee should withdrawal before Iowa.

==Huckabee on CBS:

Huckabee lied on TV saying that Bill Clinton was part of the commutation of Wayne Dumond, Clinton had no role in it, but recused itself.

Huckabee reappointed 2 people from the parole board according to above. Huckabee said on TV he reappointed none of them( not sure?). The parole board voted against parole just before voting for parole.

Huckabee says he read the letters. Letter from other lady in Arkansas. Met victim. Huckabee says this is why he didn’t grand pardon, and says he Huckabee didn’t grant pardon because of these two women. Huckabee says he was against letting him out based on those two meetings.

In the same interview, Huckabee said he did write a letter at the time saying he thought Dumond should be paroled. Huckabee lied in this interview by saying he thought from the two women that Dumond should stay in prison.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/06/earlyshow/main3582899.shtml

When challenged, Huckabee also said he was aware of other victims of DuMond who contacted his office and pleaded not to release him from prison.

“There weren’t a lot of letters. There was one visit from the victim in Ford City. There was another letter from a lady in Arkansas, and that was one of the reasons that I didn’t end up commuting that sentence… It was the influence of the fact that there was just doubts about him getting out without supervision. I just didn’t feel comfortable with that,” he said.

So here Huckabee is saying that because of the women victims he didn’t feel comfortable with Dumond getting out of prison.

But earlier in the same interview on the same webpage, he says:

Huckabee also talked about the letter he wrote.

“The letter said that ‘I support your release from prison.’ That’s the part that gets quoted. The part that doesn’t get quoted is, ‘but I deny your commutation request.’ It was a letter of denial of his commutation,” he said.

This flatly contradicts what he says later on that webpage transcript (which is above on this post) that he didn’t think he should be released from prison because of what the two women said.

“Even after that, when he was parole eligible, it was years later when the parole board finally decided to do it. And that parole board that originally asked me to meet with them was a parole board made up entirely of people appointed by Bill Clinton or Jim Guy Tucker.”

Huckabee lies again. This all happened in 1996. Huckabee became governor for the first time in 1996 and the events all happened in 1996 and January 1997.

“They did say that… six years after this meeting that they requested. And that was three of the seven members who is said it, all of whom I did not reappoint to their $75,000 a year jobs. Interesting that it took them six years to come forth and say it after they lost their jobs and during the middle of an election year in which my opponent in that election made clemencies the primary focus of her campaign,” he said.

Those he did reappoint say what? The timeline shows the parole board voted against parole, then reversed itself in less than a year. Huckabee made a public announcement that he would commute the sentence. Huckabee is lying about that too. Huckabee is a pathological liar.

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In 1996, as a newly elected governor who had received strong support from the Christian right, Huckabee was under intense pressure from conservative activists to pardon Dumond or commute his sentence. The activists claimed that Dumond’s initial imprisonment and various other travails were due to the fact that Ashley Stevens, the high school cheerleader he had raped, was a distant cousin of Bill Clinton, and the daughter of a major Clinton campaign contributor.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/04/documents-expose-huckabee_n_75362.html

We need a “new” ethics of consequences. People need to start accepting responsibility for doing their homework before they act and not saying its God’s job to do their homework. Its an abuse of religion to say that they can do what they want and God own’s the consequences.

The same people who gave us two terms of Bush are also pushing Huckabee instead of Fred Thompson. They seem to have an unerring instinct for the worst person. Why? When will they start doing their homework before they vote? Sloth is one of the 7 deadly sins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins

More than other sins, the definition of Sloth has changed considerably since its original inclusion among the seven deadly sins.

Yes, now it means being a Hucklebee supporter. Why didn’t these people take responsibility after the murders by Wayne Dumond? Dumond was arrested in June 2001 for his new murders after his release in 1999 stemming from the parole process in 1996 and January 1997. Some of the current Huckabee supporters presumably have known this whole story and themselves pushed the parole of Wayne Dumond. They seem to think that the way they deny their guilt is to have the rest of us vote Huckabee in as president.

If they can fool us into voting for Huckabee it shows they are without sin. That is their concept? This may be harsh and unfair. We shouldn’t make up our minds.

But this story has been out there for years. They know the truth and kept it from us. Isn’t bearing false witness a sin too? Aren’t these people bearing false witness about Huckabee?

Is there a group of Huckabee supporters from all the way back in 1996 who are part of this? They and Huckabee have been lying since fall 1996? They have both been lying since the parole in 1999 of Dumond and then his arrest in June 2001? This is a group of liars, some of them in his campaign and some supporters outside it? They have lied to other Christians as a way to deny the truth about their own culpability for their actions from 1996 onwards? This entire group with Huckabee are engaged in covering up their moral culpability?

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/04/documents-expose-huckabee_n_75362.html

The case for Dumond’s innocence was championed in Arkansas by Jay Cole, a Baptist minister and radio host who was a close friend of the Huckabee family. It also became a cause for New York Post columnist Steve Dunleavy, who repeatedly argued for Dumond’s release, calling his conviction “a travesty of justice.” On Sept. 21, 1999, Dunleavy wrote a column headlined “Clinton’s Biggest Crime – Left Innocent Man In Jail For 14 Years”:

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/13814.html

For some conservatives, Clinton Derangement Syndrome was so intense, they defended a man convicted of raping a 17-year-old girl — and then Huckabee bought into it, ultimately supporting the rapist’s release.

That’s where Murray Waas’ revelations come into play. The governor received chilling testimonies from other victims and their relatives that Dumond was a dangerous criminal who would strike again, but he dismissed their concerns, in part because this rapist had become a cause celebre in right-wing circles.

To be sure, this painful, tragic story isn’t exactly new; Huckabee watchers have been talking about it for years. Even this year, his critics couldn’t imagine why this scandal hadn’t knocked Huckabee out of contention for the Republican nomination.

But he wasn’t a credible candidate, and the political world didn’t take the story seriously. Now that there’s evidence, not only of Huckabee’s awful judgment, but also of his blatant dishonesty, expect to hear the name Wayne Dumond quite a bit more. It should, if there’s any justice at all, ruin Huckabee’s chances.

Huckabee is a gambler who just rolls the dice. The more fool his victims who vote for him. But its worked over and over. He won’t change until he is stopped. Voting for Huckabee is empowering him to lie and betray us. That is the same as Bush and Clinton.

==Scroll down below link for a long defense of Huckabee.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/07/502017.aspx

Even the defense ends up being a witness for the prosecution.

In fact, just the opposite is true: Mr. Chastain attempted to dissuade Governor Huckabee from his intent to grant clemency to DuMond.

This would contradict Huckabee’s current statements on TV as well.

==The comment posted at above link in full:

December 06, 2007
FORMER HUCKABEE AIDE DENOUNCES HUFFPO DISTORTION;
Corroborates Huckabee Account of Disputed Meeting:
“He was not trying to influence the Board”

A report on the left-wing blog, The Huffington Post makes allegations against Republican Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee that are inaccurate and distort the truth. According to the HuffPo article, Olan W. “Butch” Reeves, a former senior aide of former Governor Mike Huckabee, “directly contradicts” the Governor’s account of a meeting between himself and the Arkansas state parole board that took place on October 31, 1996.

In fact, Mr. Reeves completely corrobates Mr. Huckabee’s account of the meeting.

As background to the controversy, in 1985, Wayne DuMond was convicted of raping Ashley Stephens and was sentenced to life in prison. Subsequently, in 1992 then-Governor of Arkansas, Jim Guy Tucker granted executive clemency for DuMond which commuted his sentence to 39.5 years. This act made DuMond immediately eligible for parole.

In 1996, Mike Huckabee became Governor of Arkansas. That August the Post Prison Transfer Board reviewed a request for a pardon from DuMond and decided to recommend to the Governor that the request had “no merit.” That decision was sent to the Governor. The Board’s decision is a recommendation and not binding on the Governor.

When the Governor received the file with the recommendation from the Board, his review of the case led him to issue an “intent to grant” the clemency. There then followed a mandatory period for the Governor to receive comments from the public. The DuMond case was very controversial and the Governor received many comments, both supporting and opposing his consideration of a pardon.

During this time period, the Board – which was composed entirely of Democrats appointed either by Bill Clinton, or Jim Guy Tucker — issued an invitation to the new Republican Governor to come to a meeting to become acquainted and discuss his philosophy of clemency.

Please note a crucial distinction: clemency (or pardon) is separate and distinct from parole. Only the Governor can grant clemency or pardon; the Parole Board reviews and grants parole. The Governor is not involved in parole decisions.

It is this October ’96 meeting which is now the focus of attention. One of the Board members, Charles Chastain, is now alleging publicly that the Governor used that meeting to pressure the Board to grant DuMond parole.

In fact, just the opposite is true: Mr. Chastain attempted to dissuade Governor Huckabee from his intent to grant clemency to DuMond.

“They are saying that the Governor was trying to persuade them to grant parole,” said Reeves, “it was the other way around, they were trying to persuade him not to grant clemency.”

At the time Mr. Reeves served as chief counsel to the Governor and attended the October meeting with Governor Huckabee in his official capacity.

Mr. Reeves asserts categorically that parole for DuMond was “never mentioned” during the meeting. (“I told this guy [Waas], that’s not why we had that meeting.”) The quotes attributed to Reeves in The Huffington Post article, authored by Murray Waas, all relate to a conversation which was about Governor Huckabee’s stated intention to grant DuMond clemency.

This is a very simple distinction that Waas fails to make. The context of the discussion that occurred – and Governor Huckabee has not denied that a discussion occurred – was the question of whether or not Governor Huckabee would grant clemency, not whether or not the Board would grant parole. The Board’s decision had already been made and their recommendation was already on the Governor’s desk.

In the midst of a general discussion about the Governor’s general philosophy related to clemency, one of the Board members asked the Governor about the DuMond case and his intention to grant clemency (which was public knowledge due to the notice of intent.)

The Governor responded by stating that he believed the facts warranted his decision to initiate a notice of intent. As has been reported, he added that he believed DuMond had gotten a bad deal from the justice system. (This goes to the stated purpose of the meeting which was for the Governor to communicate to the Board his clemency philosophy.) Note that this does parallel the quotes attributed to Reeves by Waas in the Huffington Post:

“But, according to Reeves, Huckabee actually told the parole board members that the prison sentence meted out to Dumond for his rape conviction was “outlandish” and “way out of bounds for his crime.”

Again, the Governor made these comments to explain his position on the clemency request, not to persuade the Board to grant parole. The Board had already decided against parole. “Parole was not an issue; it didn’t come up,” said Reeves.

In response to the Governor’s explanation of why he intended to grant DuMond clemency, Chastain then stated why he was against it. The Governor, according to Reeves replied, “Well, okay, it’s a difference of opinion.” And the discussion ended.

The Huffington Post article asserts that the Reeves account contradicts the Governor’s version when, in fact, everything Mr. Reeves describes corroborates Governor Huckabee’s statement on the issue, as quoted by Waas:

“This stands in stark contrast to Huckabee’s assertion, repeated at a press conference today that he “did not ask [the board] to do anything.” When asked directly about trying to influence the board, Huckabee responded: “No. I did not. Let me categorically say that I did not.”
“He never mentioned parole at that meeting,” says Mr. Reeves. “The Governor was talking about clemency.”

On January 16, 1997 the Board took up a reconsideration of DuMond’s parole request and voted to grant parole with the stipulation that DuMond be paroled out of state.

The vote was as follows:
4 members voted yes. LeRoy Brownlee, Chairman; Fred Allen, Jr.; Ermer Poindexter; Railey Steele;
1 voted no. Dr. Charles Chastain.
There were 2 abstentions. Deborah Suttler and August Pieroni.

That same afternoon the Governor denied the clemency request. He sent a letter to DuMond that has been widely reported saying, (excerpted):
“Dear Wayne, I have reviewed your applications for executive clemency, specifically a commutation and/or pardon. … My desire is that you be released from prison. I feel now that parole is the best way for your reintegration into society. … Therefore, after careful consideration … I have denied your applications.”
The Governor’s approach to the DuMond case has been consistent. As he expressed in the letter, he did believe that DuMond should be released from prison. However, he denied clemency/pardon FOUR TIMES. Even after the Board granted parole with the out-of-state stipulation, Governor Huckabee denied two subsequent clemency requests. DuMond could not find a state which would take him, so he remained in prison for TWO MORE YEARS. It was during this time that the Governor continued to deny him clemency.

If the Governor was actively seeking to release DuMond, he could have easily done so by granting him clemency. He did not do so.

Finally, September 16, 1999 the Board, during a regular progress report on DuMond, dropped the out-of state condition for parole. The Governor took no action to promote this decision and did not know it was coming.

In October of that year, DuMond was released.

Iris Eastburn (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 10:54 AM)

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The problem with the above “defense” is that Huckabee has denied that he wanted Dumond released at all in the CBS Harry Smith interview, the transcript of which is linked to further above.

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Huckabee has admitted that there was a meeting in one of his comments on this.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/12/wayne_dumond_case_it_huckabee_1.php

I made a visit to the parole board early in my tenure as a governor at the request of chairman, because you gotta remember, every member of that parole board had been appointed by Jim Guy Tucker or Bill Clinton. Not one of them appointed by me. I’m a new Republican governor, they’d never seen one. I think they had real concern on how to interrelate or how to relate to me. And what kind of attitude I had in general to crime, attitude, parole, etc. So at their invitation, I went to the meeting; someone brought up this case. Frankly, it was simply part of a broader discussion; I did not ask them to do anything. I did indicate it was sitting at my desk; and I was giving thought to it. But this was probably in, I’m thinking maybe September or October when that meeting was held; I can’t remember exactly. The parole board, the following year, early 97 approved his parole plan after I had denied the further commutation.

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/060439.php

I’ve been digging into this controversy over Huckabee and the rapist Dumond. And when you break it down, what they seem to be arguing over amounts to an almost ridiculous distinction — one that doesn’t put Huckabee in a very good light.

If I’m understanding this right, Huckabee’s accusers are saying that he met with the parole board and tried to persuade them to parole Dumond. To which, the Huckabee people respond, no, they were trying to persuade Huckabee not to commute Dumond’s sentence.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/huckabee-tries-to-shoot-t_b_75711.html

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Newsroom.Article&ID=130

An excerpt of Huckabee’s campaign’s statement:

In 1996, Mike Huckabee became Governor of Arkansas. That August the Post Prison Transfer Board reviewed a request for a pardon from DuMond and decided to recommend to the Governor that the request had “no merit.” That decision was sent to the Governor. The Board’s decision is a recommendation and not binding on the Governor.

When the Governor received the file with the recommendation from the Board, his review of the case led him to issue an “intent to grant” the clemency. There then followed a mandatory period for the Governor to receive comments from the public. The DuMond case was very controversial and the Governor received many comments, both supporting and opposing his consideration of a pardon.

During this time period, the Board – which was composed entirely of Democrats appointed either by Bill Clinton, or Jim Guy Tucker — issued an invitation to the new Republican Governor to come to a meeting to become acquainted and discuss his philosophy of clemency.

Please note a crucial distinction: clemency (or pardon) is separate and distinct from parole. Only the Governor can grant clemency or pardon; the Parole Board reviews and grants parole. The Governor is not involved in parole decisions.

It is this October ’96 meeting which is now the focus of attention. One of the Board members, Charles Chastain, is now alleging publicly that the Governor used that meeting to pressure the Board to grant DuMond parole.

In fact, just the opposite is true: Mr. Chastain attempted to dissuade Governor Huckabee from his intent to grant clemency to DuMond.

“They are saying that the Governor was trying to persuade them to grant parole,” said Reeves, “it was the other way around, they were trying to persuade him not to grant clemency.”

At the time Mr. Reeves served as chief counsel to the Governor and attended the October meeting with Governor Huckabee in his official capacity.

Mr. Reeves asserts categorically that parole for DuMond was “never mentioned” during the meeting. (“I told this guy [Waas], that’s not why we had that meeting.”) The quotes attributed to Reeves in The Huffington Post article, authored by Murray Waas, all relate to a conversation which was about Governor Huckabee’s stated intention to grant DuMond clemency.

This is a very simple distinction that Waas fails to make. The context of the discussion that occurred – and Governor Huckabee has not denied that a discussion occurred – was the question of whether or not Governor Huckabee would grant clemency, not whether or not the Board would grant parole. The Board’s decision had already been made and their recommendation was already on the Governor’s desk.

In the midst of a general discussion about the Governor’s general philosophy related to clemency, one of the Board members asked the Governor about the DuMond case and his intention to grant clemency (which was public knowledge due to the notice of intent.)

The Governor responded by stating that he believed the facts warranted his decision to initiate a notice of intent. As has been reported, he added that he believed DuMond had gotten a bad deal from the justice system. (This goes to the stated purpose of the meeting which was for the Governor to communicate to the Board his clemency philosophy.)

Again, the Governor made these comments to explain his position on the clemency request, not to persuade the Board to grant parole. The Board had already decided against parole. “Parole was not an issue; it didn’t come up,” said Reeves.

This contradicts what Huckabee said to Harry Smith. The board voted against parole. Then Huckabee decided on clemency. Then the board switched and gave parole. Then at least two board members got reappointed, despite being Clinton or Tucker appointees.

Also isn’t this confusing some earlier meeting? The board voted on parole earlier in 1996?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/12/huckabee-aide-g.html

ABC says governor’s aide said governor was for freedom for Dumond.

==Huffpo links on story

To see how other media outlets are covering the story, click on the following links:

New York Times‘ Caucus: Huckabee on Rapist and Murderer

TalkLeft: Mike Huckabee’s Tangled Web

CBS News: Murder Victim’s Mother Assails Huckabee

The Carpetbagger Report: Can Huckabee take a punch?

Tom Maguire: Good Bye, Mike

Atrios: Dumond

CNN: Huckabee’s role in rapist’s parole comes under fresh scrutiny

Daily Kos: Huckabee and Dumond

Boston Globe: Huckabee defends his role in Ark. rapist’s parole case

Pandagon: Huck’s little rapist/murderer problem

Bloomberg: Huckabee Says He Did Nothing Untoward in Case of Rapist Parole

Media Matters: NY Times, Wash. Post chronicled Huckabee’s rise in polls — but not recent developments in DuMond case

Matthew Yglesias: Dumond Docs

National Journal’s Hotline: Hard Times For Huckabee

Powerline: Is Mike Huckabee Telling the Truth About his Role in the Dumond Affair?

Time‘s Swampland: Huckabee’s Willie Horton

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Tom Maguire: Good Bye, Mike

is very good. And links to more.

here is a month-old Arkansas editorial accusing him of running away from his own record, and here is yesterday’s Kansas City Star:

==Following editorial from Arkansas lays out the Huckabee lies.

http://www.arkansasleader.com/2007/11/editorialshuck-distorts-dumond-fiasco.html

On the day of Dumond’s parole in 1997, Gov. Huckabee issued this statement: “I concur with the board’s action and hope the lives of all those involved can move forward. The action of the board accomplishes what I sought to do in considering an earlier request for commutation ….”

He was opposed to parole?

Huckabee also sent this letter to Dumond, which became public: “Dear Wayne, I have reviewed your applications for executive clemency, specifically a commutation and/or pardon…. My desire is that you be released from prison. I feel now that parole is the best way for your reintegration into society …. Therefore, after careful consideration … I have denied your applications.”

Now he seeks to use the denial of commutation as evidence that he opposed Dumond’s release when the fact was that he had achieved the goal in another way, by persuading the state board to parole him.

==Huckabee spins

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/05/huckabee.dumond/

Huckabee said he had considered granting DuMond clemency, but he dropped the idea in response to public outcry.

Huckabee also said he did not grant clemency because he wanted to ensure DuMond was supervised when he was released from prison.

“Had I granted his commutation, then there would have been no supervision at all,” Huckabee said, “I wasn’t comfortable with that.”

==Huckabee statement again:

http://images.redstate.com/files/Dumond%20Transcript.pdf

==Huckabee coverup of documents discussed here:

http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/05/hucks-little-rapistmurderer-problem/

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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1692057,00.html?imw=Y

Here’s an example. Rudy Carey, a dedicated Des Moines Republican, says his wife was so disappointed in George W. Bush that she had intended to sit out this campaign, until he coaxed her into hearing Huckabee in a living room last spring. “When it was time to leave, I found her sitting on the stairs, filling out a commitment card”–and the Careys have been solidly for Huckabee ever since. What swayed them? “He’s honest,” Carey says. It’s the answer you hear everywhere that Huckabee supporters gather.

After being conned by Bush Rove, they have a responsibility to do their homework. Huckabee’s ethics and truth lapses are long and well documented on the internet. In an ethics of consequences, you are required to do your homework before you support a candidate.

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