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Pakistan ISI Sikh Twin Flight Bombings 1985 and 911 Twin Towers

August 9, 2012

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182

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The state of Punjab was also divided. Later, the Khalistan movement arose to create another Sikh homeland in the Punjab region of India and Pakistan, harking back to the 18th century Sikh Empire. Canada’s RCMP Security Service had followed the Khalistan movement since 1974, but did not consider it to be a threat until 1981. Sikh immigration to Canada began before the early 1900s, where immigrants suffered discrimination in British Columbia.[7] During the 1970s, many of those who would become the leaders and members of the Babbar Khalsa, such as Talwinder Singh Parmar, Ajaib Singh Bagri, Ripudaman Singh Malik and Inderjit Singh Reyat, had settled in Canada. By the 1980s, the area around Vancouver had become the largest center of Sikh population outside India.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182

“A total of 329 people were killed, including 280 Canadians, 27 British citizens and 22 Indians.[1] The incident was the largest mass murder in Canadian history,[2][3][4] and the deadliest aviation disaster to occur over a body of water. It was the first bombing of a 747 jumbo jet, preceding the better-known 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, which was also brought down by explosives placed in a radio inside a bag without its passenger boarding. ”

“Canadian law enforcement determined that the main suspects in the bombing were members of the Sikh militant group Babbar Khalsa and other related groups based in Canada. ”

Model minority strikes again.

Canada was the big problem behind Sikhs in India? Or British race is responsible forever?

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http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/804021–s…

” Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Singh has expressed concern about growing support by Canadian Sikhs for militants in India.

Most Sikhs worldwide long ago abandoned the notion of Khalistan, a separate Sikh state. But community leaders here acknowledge evidence that separatism is festering in Canada, believed to have the largest Sikh diaspora in the world. Some fear that extremist views offering a distorted view of what happened in Punjab years ago are influencing second-generation Sikh immigrants.”

So we have Sikhs and Pakistanis come to Canada to fight each other and both agree to kill British race individuals as responsible for all their problems.

See discussion at Vanishing American

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Narita_International_Airport_bombing

Excerpt

On June 22, 1985, the bags of a passenger named L. Singh were checked in at Vancouver for Canadian Pacific Airlines (CP Air) 003 to New Tokyo International Airport in Narita, Japan, near Tokyo. This bag was interlined to Air India Flight 301 leaving for Don Muang International Airport in Bangkok, Thailand. L. Singh was assigned seat 38H.

At 2037 GMT, CP Air Flight 003 (named Empress of Australia), departed Vancouver without L. Singh on board.

At 0541 GMT (now June 23), CP Air 003 arrived in Tokyo Narita 14 minutes early.

At 0619 GMT, a piece of luggage that had come from CP Air 3 exploded as it was being transferred to Air India Flight 301; the explosion killed two Japanese baggage handlers (Hideo Asano and Hideharu Koda) in Narita Airport and injured four other people.

At 0714 GMT, Air India Flight 182 exploded in mid-air off the coast of Ireland, killing all 329 people on board with no surviours. Further investigation connects the bombing of the Boeing 747 with the bombing at Narita.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_airliner_bombing_attacks

  • Gulf Air Flight 771 On 23 September 1983, on approach to Abu Dhabi International Airport, a bomb exploded in the baggage compartment. Most of the dead were Pakistani nationals. The bomb was apparently planted by the militant Palestinian Abu Nidal organization for protection money payments.
  • Air India Flight 182 1985 transatlantic flight of first 747 destroyed by sabotage. Aircraft exploded in-flight by dynamite placed in a stereo tuner with timers purchased by Sikh separatists. A similar second bomb intended for Air India Flight 301 exploded at the Tokyo airport killing two baggage handlers and injuring four others. This is the first plot to target two planes at the same time. The initial suspect Talwinder Singh Parmar confessed that Lakhbir Singh Brar Rode, leader of the Sikh separatist organization International Sikh Youth Federation (ISYF) was the mastermind. There are allegations that the ISYF has been supported by Pakistan‘s Inter-Services Intelligence organization which has been linked to Islamic terrorism organizations.[8] Later Lockerbie attack would also involve suitcases with explosives placed in electronic music components on a 747. Khalistan activists believe it was a false flag attack by Indian government to discredit their movement.

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Did Pakistan ISI help Sikhs with the two Air India bomb attacks on June 23, 1985?

Did Pakistan then plan the 911 attacks using 4 planes in 2011?

Pakistan kept getting away with terrorism that it became a normal way of life?

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Sikh separatists kill 55 train 1991

1987 Sikh separatists kill 32 Lalru

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http://www.cp24.com/news/man-acquitted-in-air-india-case-won-t-get-costs-back-1.876865

Leading Indo Canadian paper:

http://thelinkpaper.ca/?p=18249

http://metronews.ca/news/canada/295511/man-acquitted-in-air-india-wont-get-money/

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/bc-court-upholds-perjury-conviction-for-air-india-bomber/article4427686/

Sikh separatists doesn’t sound like they want to live with us in kumbaya peace.

Pakistan Python Song Trust in me Kaa Jungle Book

May 4, 2011

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust_in_Me_%28The_Python%27s_Song%29

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s46SgIBpQ-Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T0I5UepXMA&NR=1

One interpretation is that Pakistan had bin Laden in its coils as we searched for them.

Another interpretation. Pakistan is still the python Kaa. But, we are Mowgli the man cub. And Shere Khan is our ineffective leaders who manage by bumbling to slow down the python from eating us, some of the time.

However, the only real solution for us is to get out of the jungle and that means getting the Muslims and Islam out of our lands. That is what our leaders won’t admit. Because in the end, our leaders and the TIM Trust in Me establishment media are the python singing Trust in Me when we shouldn’t. We have found them out enough times to know not to trust in either ever again.

The Pakistan USG MSM teachable lying moment

May 3, 2011

Pakistan is caught holding bin Laden in a safe house of its ISI and next to the Pakistan Military Academy (PMA) and Pakistan, United States government and the MSM all lie and say it isn’t holding him. They are lying to our face. The MSM then calls us names like conspiracy nut, birther, Trumper, bigot, racist, Islamophobe, etc. to silence us.

The MSM plays the role of the KGB. They subject us to fear so that we become silent in public or official matters. They operate on the view that Auster expresses, it is what you say in public that matters. It is not your private or mental reservations or what you say in private. Although the KGB extended its actions there to. As we see in prosecutions in the UK and child custody cases, they can extend their reach there as well.

So what name do we give people who believe that Pakistan was holding bin Laden? Holder is the name of the Attorney General. We can say they harbored him. Harborers? Accessory after the fact theorists? This is conspiracy in the law.

I proclaim myself a Harborer. A Harborer is someone who believes the government of Pakistan was harboring bin Laden. This is a narrow Harborer. A full blown case of Harboring Theory is that Pakistan was doing the same for al Qaeda, and still is. A Full Harborer (why is birther not capitalized or is it?) also believes that the reason Pakistan harbored bin Laden and still harbors al Qaeda is because they were part of the original 9/11 conspiracy.

The next step is to add the anthrax attacks in. The next step is to say that as 9/11 started to unfold, the US government and then the MSM did the same thing they are doing now right in our face. They covered up the obvious role of Pakistan and that Pakistan was getting a payoff of the lifting of sanctions on its nuclear program for its support of the 9/11 attacks. This is born again harboring. I proclaim myself and freely admit that I am a Born Again Harborer.

Wise as Serpent Harborers know that the MSM is lying to us and is working for the government to hector us into silence. We know that the MSM lies when it says it is the giver of truth. We know the MSM lies when it says it is on our side against government. We know that the MSM as it goes back and forth to be the President’s Press Secretary is just the official mouth piece of the government. It is the same. This is why its sales volume is going down in part.

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Vanishing American has a column from last evening calling this process in front of us gaslighting.

http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2011/05/all-conspiracy-theories-are-not-equal.html

My comment there:

I think gaslighting is a proper word for what is going on in front of us. Pakistan’s role is being white washed yet again with the MSM playing the enforcer role of calling us names. Gaslighting Media or Gaslighting Stream Media are new names for them and what they do. They are the Gaslighters not us. Although they will want Gaslighter to mean a conspiracy nut who thinks they are the Gaslighters.

I wrote my blog article today before reading yours. It is somewhat similar in its conclusion although more focused on Pakistan. I pronounce myself a Harborer, someone who believes Pakistan was harboring bin Laden. Not only that I am a full blown Harborer who thinks that Pakistan was in on the original 9/11 attacks to get the sanctions lifted on its nuclear program and that this is the reason they harbored bin Laden and still harbor al Qaeda.

I would add the real gaslighting is that them and their Islam in our lands is peaceful or good for us. Which is part of their larger lie that immigration is good for us. The truth is them and their Islam out of our lands is what is not just good for us, but our only path to survival.

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Safe Houser is an alternative term to Harborer. WND is using the term safe house for the bin Laden Abbottabad compound. This term works as well.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=294193

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8489425/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-US-retrieves-hard-drive-with-information-on-deputys-location.html

“Although Monday’s operation was primarily a Find, Fix, Finish mission to kill bin Laden, the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, it has also yielded intelligence.”

If they had not used an explosion, presumably to blow up the compound?, but had scaled the walls, they could have taken bin Laden alive? It is a house without a phone. So it couldn’t call for help.

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Al Qaeda’s idea of independent cells or franchises has not worked out. The cells are just not that good at terrorism. They are also underfunded and lack experience and sophistication. Without a franchising organization to provide services and management, it doesn’t work. Like so many startups, al Qaeda is a business failure. Pakistan as a rogue terrorist sponsoring state though is another matter. It is the difference for the 9/11 and likely the anthrax attacks.

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A Harborer or Safe Houser, not only believes that Pakistan was harboring bin Laden in a safe house, but that the US Government and MSM are now in a conspiracy to lie about this to us and make us sound like nuts to say it.

Pakistan caught harboring Osama bin Laden

May 2, 2011

The house bin Laden was living in was obviously one the Pakistan ISI knew about.

A comment I posted at Vanishing American:

The real winner is Pakistan which eliminated a witness to their involvement in 9/11. Pakistan was under sanctions for its nuclear program which were having great effect. If Pakistan was involved in 9/11, it was to get those sanctions lifted. It is not clear that we are better off from this and whether this was a hit on bin Laden that was convenient for Pakistan’s leaders to get rid of a witness.

As long as bin Laden was alive he could tell other people in Pakistan of the involvement of Pakistan’s government. That was a risk to them. He could make a video saying Pakistan’s government was involved and give details.

Pakistan would want the Crusaders to kill bin Laden. That way they avoid his blood which would surely lead to reprisals against those involved up to the top. At the same time, they get credit with the Crusaders and money. They get money for 9/11 once again.

http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-dead.html

Search Pakistan sanctions unjust to find articles about the sanctions on Pakistan before 9/11.

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/category/pakistan-anthrax/

Hypothesis: Pakistan. Timeline: Week before 9/11/2001, the head of Pakistan’s ISI came to the US and met with US leaders to try to get sanctions lifted. That failed. He gave the go-ahead for 9/11 to al Qaeda in the DC area.

Then he met with US intensively following few days. US agreed to life sanctions and pay money to Pakistan. He then gave the signal to the anthrax team to mail the anthrax on 9/18. Reason? 9/11 was to turn on US concern for al Qaeda and that they needed Pakistan’s help to get to Afghanistan.

Once they got the money they sent out anthrax made from spores from a US lab to turn US attention to domestic terrorism. Once they got the money they wanted to turn attention away from Pakistan. It basically worked.

Before 9/11, there was talk the US might lift sanctions on India but not Pakistan. Pakistan already considered the sanctions unjust. The head of ISI was a fundamentalist and unjust in that context means its not just ok to kill but whatever it takes is required to do to remove the unjust situation.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2001/09/07/edmansoor_ed3_.php

This link now switches to

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/07/opinion/07iht-edmansoor_ed3_.html


Pakistan:Leaving U.S. Sanctions in Place Would Be Grave
By Mansoor Ijaz, R. James Woolsey and James A. Abrahamson
Published: FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 7, 2001

NEW YORK: The Bush administration is preparing to lift punitive sanctions imposed on India for its nuclear program. But clearing this hurdle to bolster political, economic and military ties with India while maintaining even sterner sanctions on Pakistan would be seen throughout the Middle East as discrimination of the first order. Islamabad would be pushed in dangerous directions, particularly toward increased reliance on its nuclear and missile programs.

Further crippling a weak Pakistan, perhaps to the point of state failure, would invite its myriad problems to spill over into other countries. Islamic militancy, arms and drug trafficking and religiously motivated sectarian violence could have devastating consequences for India’s economic prospects and cause trouble in important Islamic oil-producing countries. Risks to U.S. forces and interests in the Middle East would be a virtual certainty.

Also

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-27095601.html

Search Pakistan “sanctions lifted” 2001, and other similar searches. Toss in nuclear, IMF, etc. Pakistan’s central banker on 9/11 later wrote a book and said Pakistan was unable to continue w/o lifting sanctions. That meant Pakistan would have to give up its nuclear program but India wouldn’t. That would be “unjust”.

http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

has info on Pakistan and 9/11. Can look up meetings ISI and US after 9/11 before 9/18. Also has an anthrax timeline.

http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=2001anthraxattacks

By Sep 23 2001 Sanctions lifted in the news.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1558860.stm

Pakistan knew that before 9/18/01. There were also anthrax incidents in Pakistan in 2001 after 9/11. Pakistan ISI was capable of getting anthrax from a US source and then producing it. Only Pakistan and the others involved in 9/11 could plan it all out in advance and be ready to mail on 9/18 from NJ and from Florida the fake letters to same people, e.g. NBC.

Only Pakistan had a motive to divert attention from 9/11 on 9/18 because then they had the money and sanctions lifted deal. Means, motive, opportunity, timing. It all fits Pakistan.

Pakistan also has the MO before 9/11 and up to now. In 1999, Musharraf invaded Kargil and said Pakistani troops were terrorists. India won and wanted to return the bodies of Pakistan soldiers, but Pakistan still said they were terrorists and wouldn’t take the bodies of their own soldiers.

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Ishrat Husain the central banker of Pakistan wrote a book after 9/11 saying the sanctions were having a major impact on Pakistan. Later after I quoted this on Internet sites he started saying they had little effect.

http://ishrathusain.iba.edu.pk/

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This is just a hypothesis. Was someone surgically altered to look like bin Laden and put in this compound? It seems like this compound was built up for the US to find it. The US killed him, did id based on photos and then buried his body at sea. Was that agreed before hand with Pakistan? Who ordered that? In any case, there seems the chance of this being staged bait for the US to take.

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Pakistan sanctions lifted after 9/11 by Sep 22, 2001

Discussion before lifting sanctions.

http://cns.miis.edu/archive/wtc01/pak.htm

Dilemmas for Pakistan

The dilemma for Pakistan is that, on the one hand, a wounded superpower is seeking retribution against the perpetrators of the deadliest attack against U.S. territory. On the other hand, however, domestic religious forces could destabilize the country in protest–if Pakistan’s bases are used to strike against Bin Laden–as they consider him a soldier of Islam. The decision for General Musharraf is further compounded by crippling sanctions imposed against Pakistan by the United States for its nuclear weapon program and the lack of a democratic government. Secretary Powell noted, in this context, on Thursday, “They’re sanctioned up to the eyeballs and they don’t have that much aid now.”[5] But the United States is considering the easing of sanctions in return for Pakistan’s cooperation in apprehending Usama Bin Laden.

Pakistan can benefit economically by withdrawing its support for the Taliban and helping to capture Bin Laden. But it can lose in a big way domestically, if it accedes to U.S. pressure as powerful Islamist groups in Pakistan consider Bin Laden a hero and could destabilize Pakistan.

http://www.atimes.com/ind-pak/CH22Df02.html

Sources say that Pakistan has not as yet rejected the request to be used as a base, but that the US has two “arguments” to strengthen its case. The first is the large amount of assistance Islamabad receives from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to prop up its ailing economy, and the sanctions the US imposed on the country in the wake of its nuclear tests in May 1998.

Pakistan needs to satisfy the IMF about the state of the economy so that the existing $596 million Standby Arrangement can be replaced with a $2 billion to $2.5 billion new funding line in the shape of a Poverty Reduction Growth Facility before the end of this year.

US sanctions against Pakistan restrict the provision of credits, military sales, economic assistance and loans to the government. The October 1999 overthrow of the democratically elected Nawaz Sharif government triggered an additional layer of sanctions under Section 508 of the Foreign Appropriations Act, which include restrictions on foreign military financing and economic assistance. Presently, US government assistance to Pakistan is limited mainly to refugee and counter-narcotics assistance.

In Pakistan, there is also a very strong lobby within the army not to assist in any US moves to apprehend bin Laden. These include Rawalpindi Corps Commander Lieutenant-General Jamshed Gulzar, one of the coup leaders of October 12, 1999, Lahore Corps Commander Lieutenant-General Aziz Khan and Deputy Chief of Army Staff Lieutenant-General Muzzaffar Usmani. This was the strong army backing that enabled a Pakistani religious scholar, Mufti Nizamuddin Shamzai, who is well respected among the Taliban leadership, to put pressure on Pakistan’s Minister of the Interior, a retired lieutenant-general, Moinuddin Haider, not to deport any more Arabs from Pakistan.

US lifts sanctions Sep 23 2001

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1558860.stm

Sunday, 23 September, 2001, 13:17 GMT 14:17 UK
US lifts India and Pakistan sanctions

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/sep/24/pakistan.afghanistan

Sanctions lifted as US rewards Pakistan

Build-up: Bin Laden ‘missing’, claim Taliban

Special report: terrorism crisis
Special report: Pakistan

* Luke Harding and Rory McCarthy in Islamabad
* The Guardian, Monday 24 September 2001 02.30 BST
* Article history

Searches: bin Laden Pakistan sanctions, Pakistan Sanctions James Woolsey,
Pakistan Sanctions iht Woolsey

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/crs/93-10-20.htm

Congressional Research Service: Issue Brief
October 20, 1993
-ti- Chinese Missile and Nuclear Proliferation: Issues for Congress
By Shirley A. Kan, Foreign Affairs and National Defense Division
CONTENTS:
SUMMARY
MOST RECENT DEVELOPMENTS
BACKGROUND AND ANALYSIS
Why Target China?
Chinese Missile and Nuclear Proliferation
Possible Motives and Policy Constraints
Missile and Related Technology Transfers
CSS-2 IRBM
M-9 SRBM
M-11 SRBM
Nuclear Technology Transfers
Pakistan
Algeria
Iran
Iraq
Syria

http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/%5Cpapers%5Cpaper13.html

PAKISTAN’s MISSILE DEALS WITH NORTH KOREA
An Analysis

Pakistan’s clandestine missile transactions with China have been continuously monitored by the US intelligence community and by the International Relations and Intelligence Oversight Committees of the two Houses of the US Congress. However, the same cannot be said of Pakistan’s clandestine missile transactions with North Korea despite the serious threat posed by these transactions, in the short and medium terms, to the security of not only India, but also Japan and South Korea and, in the long term, to the security of Hawaii and Alaska in the U.S.

B.RAMAN 22-11-98

(The writer is Additional Secretary (Retd), Cabinet Secretariat, Govt. of India, and presently Director, Institute For Topical Studies, Chennai.)

Why was not bin Laden’s body brought back to be identified by relatives? Why were they in such a hurry to get bin Laden’s family out of the US after 9/11?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Laden_family

At least 13 relatives of Osama bin Laden, accompanied by bodyguards and associates, left the United States on a chartered flight with Ryan International Airlines (Ryan International Flight 441) [12] eight days after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, according to a passenger manifest released on July 21, 2004.[13] The passenger list was made public by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), who obtained the manifest from officials at Boston’s Logan International Airport. None of the flights, domestic or international, took place before the reopening of national airspace on the morning of Sept. 13 and the 9/11 Commission found “no evidence of a political intervention”.[14]

Among the passengers with the bin Laden surname were Omar Awad bin Laden, who had lived with OBL nephew Abdallah Awad bin Laden who was involved in forming the U.S. branch of the World Assembly of Muslim Youth in Alexandria, and Shafig bin Laden, a half brother of OBL who was reportedly attending the annual investor conference of the Carlyle Group.[13]

Also on board was Akberali Moawalla, an official with the investment company run by Yeslam bin Ladin, another of Osama bin Laden’s half brothers. Records show that a passenger, Kholoud Kurdi, lived in Northern Virginia with a bin Laden relative.[13]

They could have found many people in Saudi Arabia who knew him in life to identify the body and not rely on photos for that.

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Only Barack Hussein Obama would invade Pakistan to give bin Laden an Islamic burial at sea. This is farce. Each iteration they push us further and we are supposed to accept it.

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Photo and map of OBL compound.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/05/01/justice-has-been-done-obl-compound/

“Lat/lon 34.187663° 73.242617° See it on Google Maps”

Releasing Obama’s birth certificate last week makes it hard for anyone to dispute that it was really Osama that they got this week.

Much ado about Paki Prince Harry

January 11, 2009

The PC Brits heads are exploding with PC stupidity and self immolation.  There is nothing wrong with the word Paki.  But much wrong with the people, they are over here when they should be back in their own poisoned country, that they poisoned by their hate.  Pakistan is the country of hate.  The Pakistanis are the people of hate.  Pakistani means hater.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/4218656/Prince-Harry-Paki-row–Father-of-Pakistani-officer-profoundly-condemns-the-Prince.html

As it emerged that Prince Harry was facing disciplinary action over his comments, Lt Ahmed Raza Khan’s father, Mohammad Yaqoob Khan Abassi, told The Daily Telegraph he had been left hurt and angry.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article5496878.ece

January 12, 2009
More than an ordinary four-letter word
Why is Paki an unacceptable word, but not Brit? Because of Britain’s bitter racial history
Murad Ahmed

Our little Paki friend… Ahmed.” Oh boy. I’ve heard that one before.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5497508.ece

These people attacked us on 9/11 and many other times.  They hate us.  This is their hate on display, their reaction.  Send them home. They are a fifth column of hate.

http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

Pakistan’s national religion is hate.  Pakistan’s national anthem is hate.  Pakistan teaches hate of whites.

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2008/11/30/islam-%E2%80%98target-whites-preferably-americans-and-british%E2%80%99/

At Mumbai, the Pakis were told by the Paki ISI: ‘target whites, preferably Americans and British’.  They hate us.  Send them home.  They can’t be citizens, because they hate the people and the countries.  Their oaths are lies, their hate is the truth.

Use it or lose it.  Freedom.  Words the haters make into issues.  Use them all.

Lest we forget, David Cameron shows he is disloyal. David Cameron has shown he is unfit to be Prime Minister.  He is a disloyal toff.  He is a fifth columnist.  He was waiting to stab someone in the back.  He probably had a plan from the last flap involving Prince Harry to turn on Prince Harry and betray him.  That’s the type David Cameron is.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7822798.stm

This is draft and preliminary.  Satire may be intended.  This post may contain irony not digestible by the humor impaired aka haters.  Comments and corrections welcome.  All other disclaimers apply.

Pakistan 9/11 attack money then 9/18 anthrax attack diversion

December 14, 2008

Hypothesis: Pakistan.  Timeline: Week before 9/11/2001, the head of Pakistan’s ISI came to the US and met with US leaders to try to get sanctions lifted.  That failed. He gave the go-ahead for 9/11 to al Qaeda in the DC area.

Then he met with US intensively following few days.  US agreed to life sanctions and pay money to Pakistan.  He then gave the signal to the anthrax team to mail the anthrax on 9/18.  Reason? 9/11 was to turn on US concern for al Qaeda and that they needed Pakistan’s help to get to Afghanistan.

Once they got the money they sent out anthrax made from spores from a US lab to turn US attention to domestic terrorism.  Once they got the money they wanted to turn attention away from Pakistan.  It basically worked.

Before 9/11, there was talk the US might lift sanctions on India but not Pakistan.  Pakistan already considered the sanctions unjust.  The head of ISI was a fundamentalist and unjust in that context means its not just ok to kill but whatever it takes is required to do to remove the unjust situation.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2001/09/07/edmansoor_ed3_.php


Pakistan:Leaving U.S. Sanctions in Place Would Be Grave
By Mansoor Ijaz, R. James Woolsey and James A. Abrahamson
Published: FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 7, 2001

NEW YORK: The Bush administration is preparing to lift punitive sanctions imposed on India for its nuclear program. But clearing this hurdle to bolster political, economic and military ties with India while maintaining even sterner sanctions on Pakistan would be seen throughout the Middle East as discrimination of the first order. Islamabad would be pushed in dangerous directions, particularly toward increased reliance on its nuclear and missile programs.

Further crippling a weak Pakistan, perhaps to the point of state failure, would invite its myriad problems to spill over into other countries. Islamic militancy, arms and drug trafficking and religiously motivated sectarian violence could have devastating consequences for India’s economic prospects and cause trouble in important Islamic oil-producing countries. Risks to U.S. forces and interests in the Middle East would be a virtual certainty.

Also

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-27095601.html

Search Pakistan “sanctions lifted” 2001, and other similar searches.  Toss in nuclear, IMF, etc.  Pakistan’s central banker on 9/11 later wrote a book and said Pakistan was unable to continue w/o lifting sanctions.  That meant Pakistan would have to give up its nuclear program but India wouldn’t.  That would be “unjust”.

http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

has info on Pakistan and 9/11.  Can look up meetings ISI and US after 9/11 before 9/18.  Also has an anthrax timeline.

http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=2001anthraxattacks

By Sep 23 2001 Sanctions lifted in the news.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1558860.stm

Pakistan knew that before 9/18/01.  There were also anthrax incidents in Pakistan in 2001 after 9/11.  Pakistan ISI was capable of getting anthrax from a US source and then producing it. Only Pakistan and the others involved in 9/11 could plan it all out in advance and be ready to mail on 9/18 from NJ and from Florida the fake letters to same people, e.g. NBC.

Only Pakistan had a motive to divert attention from 9/11 on 9/18 because then they had the money and sanctions lifted deal.  Means, motive, opportunity, timing.  It all fits Pakistan.

Pakistan also has the MO before 9/11 and up to now.  In 1999, Musharraf invaded Kargil and said Pakistani troops were terrorists.  India won and wanted to return the bodies of Pakistan soldiers, but Pakistan still said they were terrorists and wouldn’t take the bodies of their own soldiers.

Above comment posted here:

http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2008/12/confirmation-letter-spores-grown-in.html

Problems with FBI theory from further results released:

http://www.nae.edu/NAE/pubundcom.nsf/webviews/Engineering+Innovation+Podcast+and+Radio+Series?OpenDocument&count=3

Waterboarding Musharraf Spoof

January 19, 2008

Musharraf is visiting Europe. How would a side trip to the washboard in Spain work out? Musharraf is brought to Spain and the old waterboarding apparatus taken out.

Musharraf: You aren’t going to actually go through with this are you?

Inquisitor: We will save your soul. Besides its John Yoo certified not to be torture.

Mush: Koreans have a violent streak in them.

Inquisitor: Don’t be racist. We want the truth.

Mush: I thought don’t be racist meant don’t tell the truth.

Inquisitor: This will be easier for you if you cooperate.

Mush: I’m a general in the Pakistani army.

Inquisitor: Then you should understand that without having to be told.

Mush: What did you want to know exactly? You want to ask me if I think blacks have lower IQ because of genes?

Inquisitor: We are not interested in that.

Mush: You want to know where the little girl Madeleine is?

Inquisitor: You know that?

Mush: No, but I’ve got a good guess.

Inquisitor: Where?

Mush: I hear there is someone in Dubai who was actually prosecuted for his attraction to little Western girls. Why don’t you look in his house?

Inquisitor: We are interested in your Dubai connection, but more in terms of funding 9-11 than in the girl. Of course, if you could bring us hard information it would go easier for you.

Mush: Sorry, what happens in Dubai stays in Dubai.

Inquisitor: The CIA told me that in their training program.

Mush: Take it from me, its true.

Inquisitor: What about Bhutto, did you order her death?

Mush: What if I say no?

Inquisitor: Water is in your future.

Mush: So you want a yes answer?

Inquisitor: We want details or you go under the water.

Mush: I ordered it. The ISI did it. They arranged some fool to be the suicide bomber and another guy to pull the trigger.

Inquisitor: What about 9-11?

Mush: Same deal. But bin Laden did think of it. We knew it was coming down.

Inquisitor: And you knew to have your man General Ahmad of the ISI in DC to get money on 9-11?

Mush: We had debt of 38 billion on 9-11 and our interest was greater than our gross exports. If we didn’t get aid we would have to give up our nuclear program to get aid.

Inquisitor: And you needed A. Q. Khan to sell nuclear know-how to pay for the program and give you all walking around money?

Mush: When its in the millions we call it flying around money.

Inquisitor: Excuse me.

Mush: No problem. You couldn’t be expected to know.

Inquistor: So you needed flying around money for yourself? That’s what 9-11 was for so you could have flying around money?

Mush: Its funny isn’t it? We crash two jets into buildings so we can have flying around money to go to Switzerland and other banking havens.

Inquisitor: People jumped off those buildings because it got so hot. You watched them jump on TV and then General Ahmad of the ISI in DC asked for money?

Mush: When you need money you do what you gotta do. We were under sanctions. It was get paid to fight terrorism or give up our nukes to get sanctions lifted. And that would have cut the money we were making by A. Q. Khan selling nuclear know-how. We needed that to trade with North Korea, Iran, Libya, and so on. We don’t have oil you know.

Inquisitor: I think I’ve heard that.

Mush: So what’s it going to be? I’ve played ball. How about a ticket out of here?

Inquisitor: So you can spend your flying around money?

Mush: I can’t take it with me.

The above is satire.

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