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Buchanan and A nation of scrub stock

April 25, 2009

Zachary Roth speaks ill of his white elder, Buchanan.

Speaking of Pat Buchanan, Roth writes

“His most recent effort, “The Rooted and The Rootless,” takes as its premise the notion that there’s a “blood-and-soil, family-and-faith, God-and-country kind of nation” that’s competing with a minority represented by the “rootless” Obama and his “aides with advanced degrees from elite colleges who react just like him.”

Already, we’re in National Socialist territory here, but let’s leave that aside (with Buchanan, once you start down this path, it can be hard to stop…). What jumped out at us was Buchanan’s contention that the “blood-and-soil” part of America…

Roth links to another ashamed to be white attack on Pat Buchanan.

Auf Wiedersehen, Pat
Jacob Weisberg Posted Thursday, Sept. 16, 1999, at 3:16 PM ET

The Zachary Roth thread is a classic liberal ashamed to be white thread. The speaker calls out for whites to come forward and acknowledge they are ashamed to be white. He is not disappointed with the spontaneous coming forward.  One after another, whites write how ashamed they are to be white.  They say they want to bring the scrub stock here and make America A Nation of Scrub Stock.

This is Birth of a Nation in reverse.  These short stock whites can’t recognize the depth they owe to their “racist” forbears.  The civilization they were born into was made by racists and wrung from the despoiling hand of non-whites.

White Civilization doesn’t just happen.  It has to be won by stopping its destruction by non-whites.  That’s the truth of history.

Every old city in America has beautiful 19th century houses built by whites that are now despoiled by non-whites.

The fate of Olde Towne East, from Mansions of the white to scrub stock is discussed by Mencius Moldbug:

If Zachary Taylor wants to know what racism is, he can go to these white mansions and see what their state is now.  The ethnic cleansing of whites from their beautiful homes is racism.  That is scrub stock racism.  That is all that the scrub stock bring to this land or any white land, is their racism and decay.  Urban decay is a euphemism for scrub stock.  There are thousands, brought to us by the Zachary Roths and Jacob Weisbergs.  Now they call it white racism, blaming the victims.  Blaming Pat Buchanan for calling it what it is.

Stephen Hopewell discusses his small town experience here:

Roth cites this from the 1913 NYT that talks of scrub stock in 1913.

1913 is when those mansions were still being built instead of turned into scrub stock crack houses.  1913 is when the New York Times was a great paper, not one borrowing money from a Mexican billionaire.

That is the decay of America.  It is becoming the Nation of Scrub Stock.  It was once A Nation of White Stock and not just any white stock but the best, Nordic Stock and British Stock.  Those are the stocks that brought civilization to the non-white in Africa, Latin America and elsewhere.

What is scrub stock?  Scrub stock is what turns 19th century mansions into 21st century crack houses.  Scrub stock are blacks and Hispanics and other non-whites with some exceptions.  Time for scrub stock to go back to their scrub stock lands instead of despoiling what is left of 19th century America and England.

This royal throne of kings, this scepter’d isle,
This earth of Majesty, this seat of Mars,
This other Eden, demi-paradise;
This fortress built by Nature for herself,
Against infection and the hand of war,
This happy breed of men, this little world,
This precious stone set in the silver sea,
Which serves it in the office of a wall,
Or as a moat defensive to a house,
Against the envy of less happier lands;
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England,
This nurse, this teeming womb of royal kings,
Fear’d by their breed, and famous by their birth.

  • John of Gaunt, scene i Richard II

This breed of kings and scientists is now being replaced by a breed of scrub stock.    This civilization is falling.  White apology for white superiority is despicable and treason to ancestors.

Lesser breeds of scrub stock now infect these blessed realms.  They must be expelled.  Nature and Nature’s God give us a call to reason and moral truth.  We must restore this nation to a Nation of Philosophers and Scientists and send the scrub stock back.

Who Will Raise Their Voice?

Our Union Jack:


Pat Buchanan WWII Tragedy of Errors

April 4, 2008

Pat Buchanan with perfect timing comes out with a book that World War II was a mistake and Winston Churchill was the man who buried the British Empire.

By Patrick J. Buchanan

“Yes, it was a good war,” writes Richard Cohen in his column challenging the thesis of pacifist Nicholson Baker in his new book, Human Smoke, that World War II produced more evil than good.

Baker’s compelling work, which uses press clips and quotes of Axis and Allied leaders as they plunged into the great cataclysm, is a virtual diary of the days leading up to World War II.

Riveting to this writer was that Baker uses some of the same episodes, sources and quotes as this author in my own book out in May, Churchill, Hitler and ‘The Unnecessary War.

Buchanan shows perfect timing in this case. Baker was slightly in advance and possibly too leftist in his book. But its now time to recognize that World War II was a huge series of mistakes embedded in mistakes before it and after it.

When 50 to 150 million people die in a war, its safe to say that there must have been a better option. World War II was not Pareto Optimal. (Can you capitalize Pareto Optimal? Or rather, is it Pareto Optimal to capitalize Pareto Optimal?)

Hitler died in the Fuhrer Bunker. So it wasn’t Pareto Optimal for the Fuhrer. Nor was it for those who died. It wasn’t better for Soviet Occupied Government, SOG, in Europe or Asia. Nor was it better for Mao Occupied Government in China, MOG. Communist Occupied Government, COG, turned out worse than Fascist Occupied Government, FOG, not least because it lasted longer and also was part of mortal blows to the West and the white world.

The Far West got nothing more after the war then it had before it, Soviet occupation from the middle of Europe to the Pacific. The countries liberated by the West were the ones invaded after the West entered the war. If we take out Norway, Denmark, Holland, Belgium, France, and Greece what country was liberated in Europe? Those countries were invaded after France and Britain entered the war. Germany and Italy can’t really count as liberations in the same way, since they were enemy combatants. Nor can the ethnocide of 2 million Germans by Russians count as liberation. Nor Soviet occupied Germany for another 45 years.

The war in the Pacific is similar. What country was liberated? China wasn’t. It ended up under Mao. The Philippines and Singapore were occupied only after the West entered. Vietnam can’t count as being liberated, since it ended up under Communist rule. WWII didn’t liberate much except what was occupied after the Far West entered the war.

Europeans have chosen self-suicide for a long time now. Part of this has come from the efforts of the Soviet intelligence service starting in the 1920’s. The West has been on a binge of self-congratulatory death parties for longer than that though.

If WWII and WWI are admitted as mistakes, we can finally also admit that Lincoln’s war was a mistake. No other country needed such a war to end slavery. The US Civil War was brought on by the religious left as well as corrupt commercial interests.

This suicide and whitecide alliance is alive today with the non-religious left even more holy in its zeal to destroy the West and extinct whites completely. The intended final end of whites by some on the left is worse than the death camps of World War II and their successors in communist occupied lands in the decades after.

Buchanan shows excellent timing. The case against World War II was made before it started and has continued since. But Buchanan’s book arrives at the point where many are finally willing to acknowledge it. As for Baker, it seems he is Buchanan’s Watson.

Baker, I haven’t read it, appears to be more emotional, at least in the reaction to some. Buchanan may add up the costs better and just point out the lost opportunities. Restated, there was a course of action in WWII what was, if not Pareto Optimal, at least available that was better. That would have been no war in 1939 between Britain, France and Germany.

Britain and France should have taken all of the Europeans Hitler wanted to send out to their huge colonies. They had a large part of the earth. They lost most of it within the next 25 years. They should have instead filled it with the Europeans including Jews that Hitler didn’t want in Europe. That was a Pareto Optimal outcome for Europeans that was available. It would have been better than the descent into third worldism that is taking place now.

==Hypotheses. The following are more speculative and are draft and subject to revision.

During World War II, many minorities were told it was good for them to kill whites. There were anti-white riots in the U.S. by blacks. Japanese Americans like Senator Daniel K. Inouye – Hawaii seem to have developed a life long taste for anti-white comments and action that may come in part from his being allowed to kill white Germans in Italy.

The riots after WWII in America, the colonial revolts, the power of communism and leftism, the demands for whites to agree to their genocide by immigration all flow in part from telling non-whites it was ok to kill whites during World War II. World War II empowered the hatred of whites, even though Japan was involved in many war crimes and Soviet propaganda against whites came from a regime with its own war and peace crimes.

The white world of 1900 had fallen apart by 2000. It was in the process of exterminating all whites left by third world immigration. All 3 candidates in the US, John McCain, Hillary Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama are advocates of genocide of whites by third world immigration. Whites accept this as well as affirmative action, the partner of immigration in white genocide and ethnocide.

The MSM in America led by Peter Jennings celebrated 9-11 as it happened.  George Bush praised Islam and his main concern after 9-11 was to cover up Saudi and Pakistani complicity in 9-11.  This shows a complete inward defeat.  Congress has gone along with this with a few exceptions such as the Senate report that Bush wouldn’t allow to be published linking Saudia Arabia and Pakistan to 9-11. Congress should have published the report and impeached Bush. Instead, they went along, and Republican voters slavishly re-elected Bush after he betrayed them and America.  John McCain is cut from the same cloth.

Obama lies on Wright Ferraro Tells Truth MSM doesn’t

March 16, 2008

Barack Rezko Obama has lied about his not knowing about Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s anti-white racism. Geraldine Ferraro told the truth about Obama. The MSM in the Sunday talk shows, except for McLaughlin Group has lied for Obama and attacked Ferraro. The MSM attacks the teller of truth. That is because they don’t tell the truth.

What we heard from many blacks on TV was that what Reverend Wright says is said in many if not most black churches. This is the norm in the black community. So Obama lied to say he never heard it in 20 years. Pat Buchanan tells the truth on McLaughlin Group.

Obama lied and the Democratic Party this morning tied itself to his lies. Ferraro told the truth. The Democratic Party said it wasn’t the party of truth this morning and embraced the attacks on Ferraro for telling the truth. The Democratic Party said what Ferraro said is not part of mainstream discussion. That’s a lie.  Obama’s own books are about race and politics.

The Democrats and the MSM have embraced lies on race and on politics. Why? Because whites are going extinct with below replacement fertility. That is ethnocide. This is the policy of the Democratic Party and the MSM. That is what they are lying about, their own culpability with ongoing ethnocide, racecide and genocide.

Draft Left Defines White Nationalism

November 24, 2007

The left approximately follows the following escalating levels of attack on whites. This doesn’t apply in all cases, but illustrates the phenomenon. We can formulate the following

Leftist Escalation of Attack Words Hypothesis

  1. Bigot or Nativist: Under leftism, any white who speaks up or about what is happening to whites, without using the word white.
  2. White nationalist. When the white uses the word white and just reports or repeats a fact incident, the left calls them white nationalist.
  3. White supremacist. If they say it should stop, the left calls them a white supremacist. If they propose specific action to make it stop, the likelihood of being called white supremacist goes up.

An example is the attacks on Brussels Journal, Vlaams Belang and Paul Belien by some at LGF. They were all attacked as white supremacist for not just saying what was happening to whites in Europe, but that what is happening to whites in Europe should stop.

Lets analyze the above paragraph. LGF reports on what is happening in Europe and condemns it. What is happening to whom? Its being done to white Europeans. But to say that is beyond the pale to LGF. Why does LGF condemn what is done to whites but that to say the victims are white Europeans they condemn? If they condemn what is done to whites, are they not saying it should stop being done to whites? But don’t want to say that explicitly?

Why do they say that stopping what is being done to whites in Europe is white supremacy? Filip Dewinter said he didn’t want his daughter to marry a black, and that is called white supremacism by his critics. But isn’t it rational?

As Steve Sailer documents, regression towards the mean in IQ means that children of black parents regress towards the mean of black IQ which is 85, 15 points below the white average. Thus a child of a white and black parent will, from this effect, tend to have a lower IQ than the white average. LGF condemned Filip Dewinter for wanting to avoid that. Why shouldn’t he?

Isn’t it irrational to want a lower IQ for your grand child? It would seem the definition of rationality would imply preferring high IQ to low IQ. Since marrying a black implies regression towards the black mean of lower IQ of 85 as Steve Sailer points out, this is irrational. Note that the black IQ is 85 in the U.S. In Africa its much lower. Europe has immigration of blacks primarily from Africa, so the black IQ there might be as low as 70. There has also been much less time for mixing there than in the U.S.

Being white and knowing the truth about statistics and data sources already makes you a covert white nationalist in the mind of the left. If you say the word white in relation to the victims identity, the left goes crazy. Even though they publicize hate crimes with black victims, if a white talks about white victims they are a racist to white nationalist to white supremacist. Saying the victims were white as a stand alone sentence is considered racist by many.


If you tell what happens to whites in an incident or generally, the left calls you a bigot or nativist. If you use the word white while doing so, they call you a white nationalist. If you say it should stop, they call you a white supremacist. Listen to them. Observe them. This is real not just a joke. They are deadly serious.

==This is real

The EU has made it at least a draft policy to eliminate the white race in Europe and replace it with a mixed race.

VA quotes the following

EU Proposal for Mestizo Europe

BRUSSELS, July 27 (Reuters) – The European Union should admit up to 75 million immigrants over the next 50 years and be prepared to become a racially hybrid society, according to a paper to be discussed at an EU ministerial meeting on Friday.”

That’s a real government saying this as policy. They are doing it. They are doing it after the attacks in Malmo, London, Madrid, the car burnings in France, etc. After all this, they make it policy to eliminate the white race. This is the real thing. Its happening now. They are open about it.

The EU has taken ownership of London, Madrid, Malmo, the car burnings in France. The EU has said these are their policies. Listen, observe, believe. This is what is happening now. They say so.

==Following was after reading following discussion

So is there something wrong with the term ‘white nationalist‘? I would say only the fact that it is necessary to prefix the term with the word ‘white.’ Old-style American nationalism (which undeniably many people find a negative word, preferring the term ‘patriotism’ which they find more positive) implies an identification with the traditional Anglo-Saxon culture of America.


MM identifies Lawrence Auster, Vanishing American, John Savage, New Sisyphus, Age of Treason, and Old Atlantic Lighthouse as white-nationalist blogs.

Mencius Moldbug

I am not a white nationalist, but I do read white-nationalist blogs, and I’m not afraid to link to them. The undisputed champion in this department is Larry Auster. I am also fond of Vanishing American, John Savage, New Sisyphus, Age of Treason, and Old Atlantic Lighthouse. The two central organs of intellectual white nationalism in the US are American Renaissance and VDare. If there is a European equivalent, it is probably Brussels Journal. On all these sites, you’ll find thoughtful, well-written commentary that will expand your mind. I’m not sure all these writers would accept the white-nationalist label – this is just my own description.


This is rather academic. Another approach is to say that white nationalism is what people who call themselves “white nationalists” believe. John Savage has a good link summary, featuring a friendly debate between Steve Sailer (who is perhaps best classified as a Sailerist, a label I’m not at all afraid to stick on my shirt) and the editor of American Renaissance, Jared Taylor.

Perhaps the best summary of the white nationalist case I’ve seen, however, is this essay by the Norwegian blogger known only as Fjordman.

==Old Atlantic and White Nationalism?

OA like Vdare does not adopt the term white nationalism. This is a term for discussion. I, like everyone else, am trying to sort this out in my mind as to where we are, where we are going, and what will happen. I appreciate the writing of Vanishing American and the others listed above on this subject.

I do support almost zero immigration, not 250,000 per year. Under the Wright Island Theorem and Immigration Vanishing Survival Theorem that inflow would still result in genetic replacement and zero survival factors for genes, even allowing for some outflow. We are not at a point of circulation.

White nationalism as an idea I consider to be a positive one, not a negative one. I see nothing wrong with those who adopt the term, simply from doing so.

I hope the break up of the U.S. can be avoided. I don’t want to see an Islamic Europe that has British and French nuclear weapons and wants to attack New York City because of the people who live there, or other American cities. This does require people in the West to help each other survive liberalism.

The people of the West do have to wake up. It does need to keep white majorities. There is a reality outside liberal TV shows that can’t be ignored. We do have to say we want to keep white majorities to actually keep them.

Those who want to stop terrorist immigration need to recognize that to do that you have to stop all legal Muslim immigration. Under liberalism, the only way to stop all legal Muslim immigration is to stop all legal immigration.

People have to see an upside to their own efforts. Fighting in wars, being called bigot and racist to stop immigration are not something people will do so that liberals can stay on top calling them names. They will do it for the survival of their own, not just for some abstract principle the writers of All in the Family cherish. The purpose of life is not to avoid being called names by liberals. That is not the purpose of the universe either.

==Mexican and Muslim Nationalism are the real thing

==Can we test the hypothesis?

Because nativist and bigot are used almost as standard terms for anyone the left disagrees with on immigration, we would expect these terms to dominate the terms “white nationalist” and “white supremacist”. So in looking at results we have to adjust for that.

Note the initial work didn’t look at racist in the searches, but that has been added in some cases. This seems to be the word of choice still. One can consider the hypothesis that the left just uses whatever word is in vogue, and they copy each other and the words they use are not used for their meaning but just because it makes them feel good to say them.

SPLC searches were not done initially but added after the strange Ron Paul results were found.


Results 1100 of about 67,000 for amren racist.

amren nativist

Results 146 of 46 for amren nativist.

amren “white nationalist”

Results 1100 of about 23,200 for amren “white nationalist.

amren “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 19,900 for amren “white supremacist.

==Jared Taylor

Results 1100 of about 35,200 for “Jared Taylorracist.

“Jared Taylor” nativist

Results 1100 of about 643 for “Jared Taylornativist.

“Jared Taylor” “white nationalist”

Results 1100 of about 11,200 for “Jared Taylor” “white nationalist

“Jared Taylor” “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 11,200 for “Jared Taylor” “white supremacist.

==Lawrence Auster

Results 1100 of about 28,500 for Lawrence Auster” racist.

“Lawrence Auster” nativist

Results 1100 of about 677 for Lawrence Auster” nativist.

“Lawrence Auster” “white nationalist”

Results 163 of 63 for Lawrence Auster” “white nationalist.

“Lawrence Auster” “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 807 for Lawrence Auster” “white supremacist.

==James Watson

“James Watson” bigot

Results 1100 of about 22,600 for James Watsonbigot.

Results 1100 of about 152,000 for James Watsonracist.

“James Watson” “white nationalist”

Results 162 of 62 for James Watson” “white nationalist.

“James Watson” “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 820 for James Watson” “white supremacist.

==Peter Brimelow

Results 1100 of about 27,500 for Peter Brimelow” racist.

Results 1100 of about 9,590 for Peter Brimelow” nativist.

“Peter Brimelow “white supremacist”
Results 1100 of about 995 for Peter Brimelow “white supremacist.

A quote mark was left out after Brimelow, so we can repeat this:

“Peter Brimelow” “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 611 for Peter Brimelow” “white supremacist.
Results 1100 of about 41,000 for Peter Brimelow “white nationalist.

==Steve Sailer

Results 1100 of about 108,000 for “Steve Sailer” racist.

Results 1100 of about 25,800 for “Steve Sailer” bigot

Results 1100 of about 745 for “Steve Sailer” “white nationalist.

Results 1100 of about 821 for “Steve Sailer” “white supremacist.

==Virgil Goode

Virgil Goode said stop Muslim immigration. He said nothing about whites or anything about race. But Goode did say stop something. What was he called?

Results 1100 of about 41,800 for Virgil Goode” racist

bigot “Virgil Goode”

Results 1100 of about 20,400 for bigotVirgil Goode”

Islamophobe “Virgil Goode”

Results 1100 of about 972 for Islamophobe “Virgil Goode”.
“white supremacist” “Virgil Goode”

Results 1100 of about 661 for white supremacist” “Virgil Goode”.

“white nationalist” “Virgil Goode”

Results 119 of 19 for white nationalist” “Virgil Goode”.

==Senator George Allen

Results 1100 of about 168,000 for George Allenracist.

Results 1100 of about 71,000 for George Allenbigot.

Results 1100 of about 15,100 for George Allennativist

Results 1100 of about 606 for George Allen” “White nationalist.

Results 1100 of about 15,300 for George Allen” “White supremacist.

George Allen just used the word macaca.

Results 1100 of about 164,000 for George Allen” macaca.

Results 1100 of about 783 for George Allen” macaca “white supremacist

The hate against George Allen and Virgil Goode was a national obsession. The instant association of both with white supremacism and white nationalism is extreme. The searches could be repeated with -ism instead of -ist. Both Allen and Goode are from Virginia.


Results 1100 of about 157,000 for Vdare racist.

Vdare nativist

Results 1100 of about 9,320 for Vdare nativist.

“white nationalist” Vdare

Results 1100 of about 10,100 for white nationalist” Vdare.

Vdare “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 12,300 for Vdare “white supremacist.

Vdare has used the word white, said what is happening to whites using the word white, said to stop it and proposed specific action. They are called white supremacist more than white nationalist.

==Lou Dobbs

Results 1100 of about 379,000 for “Lou Dobbs” racist.

nativist “Lou Dobbs”

Results 1100 of about 52,300 for nativist “Lou Dobbs”.

Lou Dobbs does not describe his victims as white and does not propose remedies for preserving whites qua whites. He emphasizes amnesty but also discusses guest worker programs as harming Americans, independent of being white or not.

“Lou Dobbs” “white nationalist”

Results 1100 of about 734 for “Lou Dobbs” “white nationalist.

“Lou Dobbs” “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 32,200 for “Lou Dobbs” “white supremacist.

“Lou Dobbs” Nazi

Results 133 of 33 from for “Lou Dobbs” Nazi.

Results 124 of 24 from for “Lou Dobbs” “white supremacist”.
Some results talk about guests on Lou Dobbs show. But it seems that we are seeing the emergence of support for a hypothesis that they don’t stop at calling someone white nationalist but move right up to white supremacist.

== Pat Buchanan

Results 1100 of about 262,000 for Pat Buchananracist.

“Pat Buchanan” nativist

Results 1100 of about 42,500 for Pat Buchanannativist

“Pat Buchanan” “white nationalist”

Results 1100 of about 10,400 for Pat Buchanan” “white nationalist.

“Pat Buchanan” “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 24,400 for Pat Buchanan” “white supremacist.

Results 154 of 54 from for “Pat Buchanan” Nazi.

Results 135 of 35 from for “Pat Buchanan” “white supremacist”.
Pat Buchanan has explicitly talked about what is happening to whites and the West and said it should stop. The results in his case are that he is called white supremacist more than white nationalist. So this supports the hypothesis.

==Tom Tancredo

Results 1100 of about 530,000 for Tom Tancredo” racist.

Results 1100 of about 83,900 for Tom Tancredo” bigot.

Results 1100 of about 45,800 for Tom Tancredo” nativist.

Results 1100 of about 808 for Tom Tancredo” “white nationalist.

“Tom Tancredo” “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 33,300 for Tom Tancredo” “white supremacist.

Results 113 of 13 from for “Tom Tancredo” “white supremacist”.

Results 139 of 39 from for “Tom Tancredo” Nazi.

==Brussels Journal

Results 1100 of about 182,000 for Brussels Journalracist.

Results 1100 of about 30,300 for Brussels Journalbigot.

Results 1100 of about 801 for Brussels Journalnativist.

Results 1100 of about 21,400 for Brussels Journalindigenous.

Results 175 of 75 for Brussels Journal” “white nationalist.

Results 1100 of about 793 for Brussels Journal” “white supremacist.

We see that there is almost immediate escalation from white nationalist to white supremacist.


Results 1100 of about 702,000 for BNP racist.

Results 1100 of about 17,800 for BNP “white supremacist.

Results 1100 of about 24,300 for BNP “white nationalist.

Results 129 of 29 for BNP Ballerinawhite nationalist

Results 162 of 62 for BNP Ballerinawhite supremacist.

==Ron Paul

Results 1100 of about 234,000 for “Ron Paulbigot.

Results 1100 of about 37,600 for “Ron Paulnativist.

Results 1100 of about 1,550,000 for “Ron Paulracist.

“Ron Paul” “white nationalist”

Results 1100 of about 51,100 for “Ron Paul” “white nationalist.

Results 1100 of about 58,200 for “Ron Paul” “white supremacist.

How did Ron Paul get labeled with over 1 million hits on racist and over 50,000 hits on White Supremacist? He is not even a particularly strong advocate for immigration restriction relative to the other Republican candidates. He is against amnesty, but has supported H-1B and legal immigration. The most he has done is be against anchor baby.

Hypothesis: The enormous number of hits on Ron Paul shows its being white and not part of the establishment that gets you labeled. It doesn’t matter what you really say or do. White, non-“mainstream” and you are racist and white supremacist to them.

“Ron Paul”

One of the hits:

Extremist Group Announces Speech by Congressman | Hatewatch

Ron Paul is not necessarily a racist for one speech with this group, The SPLC should come to a Ron Paul New York meetup group meeting or listen to those
Hypothesis: This is smear by association. Ron Paul will talk to anyone as a person and not call them names but say what he thinks without telling them what they want to hear. This makes him racist and “white supremacist”. The failure to condemn those he should condemn, and treating everyone with civility and talking to them on an equal level using logic and facts is all that it takes to be named racist and white supremacist.

“Ron Paul” Nazi

Results 14 of 4 from for “Ron Paul” Nazi.


Results 1100 of about 627 from for Christian Nazi. Christian Identity

Christian Meeting Turns Into Attack on Gays. BRIEFS. NSM Attack Sparks Rift · KKK Suit Ends With Award to Victims · Neo-Nazi Financier Arrested – 40k – CachedSimilar pages
Christian Nazi

Results 1100 of about 306 from for Christian “white supremacist”. The Big Lie

Murder victim Channon Christian was the focus of a rally by white parroting the key white supremacist talking point, characterizing the Christian-Newsom – 51k – CachedSimilar pages

One of the hypotheses was that just to know the truth and speak the truth would get you attacked.


Results 161 of 61 from for Jesus “white supremacist”.

Results 183 of 83 from for Jesus Nazi.


God Nazi

Results 1100 of about 143 from for God “white supremacist”.

Results 1100 of about 290 from for God Nazi.


Results 1100 of about 813 from for “white Supremacist”.

Thus a little more than 1 in 6 times that “white supremacist” is used by SPLC on their website, God is associated with it.

Results 1100 of about 1,720 from for nazi.

Thus a little more than 1 in 6 times that Nazi is used by SPLC on their website, God is associated with it.


God, then Christian and Jesus were searched at SPLC after the Ron Paul results were found and then others checked at SPLC for Nazi and “White Supremacist”.


The original hypothesis has some support but is clearly only partly valid. The main problem is that the left in general and SPLC in particular want to ramp up to Nazi and white supremacist rather quickly. The term racist is still the preferred term for any comment from the right on the topic of immigration, crime, etc. The Delaware State and Washington public school programs that teach all whites are racist also prefers that term to saying say that all whites are Nazi or all whites are white supremacists.

Despite the randomness in the use of these words, there is still some tendency to escalate in rhetoric in the way the original hypothesis outlined. If you talk about what is happening, say its happening to whites, say it should stop, and say the white race deserves to live and to continue, and that its appropriate to act to do so, you are almost certain to be called a bigot or nativist, and have a good chance of being called a white nationalist or white supremacist. Distinguishing between white nationalist and white supremacist may be something only specialists do. It seems once they go for “white nationalist” they immediately go to “white supremacist”.
Those who call for ending the white race are usually cheered. Its very rare they are criticized. Nor is any term like white ethnocide or racecide, whitecide or white zeroist used to describe this in any standard way. Even though its openly advocated, planned, and announced by the EU as draft policy.

Bill Clinton also cheered it and in effect admitted that it is the policy of the U.S. government to make whites a minority in the U.S. Since the US engages in affirmative action and other acts, this amounts to making whitecide US government policy. This is because the cumulative effect of this policy is to reduce European white fertility to below replacement, which it is now world wide in almost every country if not every country.

If you listen to what they say about whitecide, repeat it, say you disagree with that policy, say you want to oppose the policy and propose specific action to stop whitecide, then they say you are a white nationalist or white supremacist with a good probability. It would be interesting to check what SPLC and ADL use for these individuals on their websites. This can be done by adding site: and the name of the website.

Basically, if you speak up, say what is happening, say its happening to whites, say whites have a right to survive and propose specific measures to stop it, then they are going to go after you as a white supremacist. They also will go quickly from nativist and bigot right through white nationalist to white supremacist without pausing. They are ready to pounce on anything a party or well-known person says to immediately push them all the way to white supremacist. Bottom line, if you speak up and out they are going to target you and they want to escalate to white supremacist. Other searches would be on Nazi, which likely has similar results.


Genetics. 1979 January; 91(1): 163–176.

The Island Model with Stochastic Migration

Thomas Nagylaki

Department of Biophysics and Theoretical Biology, The University of Chicago, 920 East 58th Street, Chicago, Illinois 60637

The island model with stochastically variable migration rate and immigrant gene frequency is investigated. It is supposed that the migration rate and the immigrant gene frequency are independent of each other in each generation, and each of them is independently and identically distributed in every generation. The treatment is confined to a single diallelic locus without mutation. If the diploid population is infinite, selection is absent and the immigrant gene frequency is fixed, then the gene frequency on the island converges to the immigrant frequency, and the logarithm of the absolute value of its deviation from it is asymptotically normally distributed.

The above implies that if you have two genes in some frequency in the immigrant population, that under one way migration that frequency becomes the frequency on the island.

From PDF, conclusion:

We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.


If the EU bothered to read science articles on the internet, they would find out the end result of their actions is not a new race of white and non-white, its just elimination of whites. That is what the math says. Its a theorem.

== Random, Emotion, Civility, Failure to Condemn Hypotheses

The above analysis and searches leads to some new hypotheses to consider.

Hypothesis: Racist is the preferred term for attacking whites who talk about any subject involving race, immigration, etc. If the person says something like macaca, stop Muslim immigration, don’t use the Koran for oaths, etc. they will be deluged with racist.

Hypothesis: The use of the words white nationalist, white supremacist is almost random and independent of what the person said. Instead, these terms reflect the emotion of the leftist.

Hypothesis: Nazi is also a word that just means the leftist is too angry (or full of hate) to stop at racist and has to say more.

Hypothesis: The attack on Ron Paul and association with racist and white supremacist shows intent to smear. Ron Paul is a very mild mannered man. His main issue is smaller government. He is also anti war. He is for immigration restriction. He is anti big government in all forms. He treats everyone with civility. He will, if he has time, talk to anyone about anything, listen to them, and treat them with civility and as serious whatever the person says. He does not condemn people. Ron Paul then says what he thinks and tries to use reason and facts to persuade those he disagrees with instead of calling them names. This whole set of attributes produces an extreme reaction of what might be called hate but definitely fear. His civility and rationality, fairness and openness to everyone threatens the whole rule by smear and fear official information complex.

Hypothesis: There is no strategy to keep from being called white supremacist, white nationalist, Nazi, racist, bigot, nativist, etc. if you want to say anything that is non-establishment or if you will treat anyone with civility and not condemn them as a person for what they say. If you adopt civility towards all, are willing to listen to anyone, and will respond with civility and reason, they will go ballistic and start calling you racist, Nazi, white nationalist and white supremacist.

Hypothesis: There are funded groups that try to organize attacks on leaders like Lou Dobbs, Ron Paul, Tom Tancredo, as well as Lawrence Auster, Jared Taylor, Peter Brimelow, the BNP Ballerina, etc. These attacks follow a script and the script ends up calling them Nazi, white nationalist, white supremacist. The script doesn’t call for waiting at white nationalist, but as the numbers indicate, once they use white nationalist, they go to white supremacist. Racist is used without any compunction as an entry level word.

Hypothesis: Attacks using Nazi, white nationalist and white supremacist may be used partly to get attention from search engines. The use of the word racist doesn’t get enough identification. SPLC has a high revenue stream. Just using words like racist or bigot isn’t going to get as much attention in search engines as Nazi and white supremacist. They may want to use stronger terms to get more attention and then more funding. This also may be why God and Nazi go together so much at the SPLC website.

This is draft and preliminary. All statements should be restated as questions or hypotheses. This is subject to revision. All comments welcome. All other disclaimers apply.

Pat Buchanan KO’s Luis Gutierrez Meet the Press Immigration Debate

June 24, 2007

Pat Buchanan demolished Luis Gutierrez in an immigration debate on Meet the Press:


After that, the usual suspects gather round to ask for corporate speaking fees by defending immigration.

Tim Russert

Host of Meet the Corporate Spokespeople

Columnist, Washington Post, speaking fee info here.

Wall Street Journal
Chief Washington Correspondent, CNBC

Moderator, PBS’s “Washington Week”

Syndicated Columnist

Tim Russert Speaking fee from Arianna Huffington at Huffington Post:

But, according to the Washington Speakers Bureau, which exclusively handles Russert’s speaking engagements, his standard speaking fee is $60,000 plus first class travel for two for west coast appearances, and $50,000 and first class travel for two for east coast locales — although, they say, private planes are strongly preferred.

Please, please, is there not a corporation to fly them out on the corporate jet this week for a 50,000 luncheon talk for one hour and then fly them back, after they do shopping. They earned it today. Fly their family members out with them. Better yet, fly them out, give the talk and have them fly back and do another talk on the way back. They really earned it this Sunday on Meet the Corporate Speaking Fees.

Journalist speaking fees here.

Buchanan had the facts on what immigration is doing to Americans. Gutierrez made it clear, it was intentional.

Immigration has killed wage progress.

Men’s median wages are flat since 1973, despite productivity rising. Buchanan himself combined these together in the debate pointing out that wages are flat and productivity is going up. That was a key point to get spoken on TV. This is one of the first times it has been said.

Men’s median wages in the US are flat since 1973. See graph page 18 at census:

Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in
the United States: 2005

Worker Productivity Graph and info

Productivity never stopped growing, except possibly during some recessions or odd years from 1947 to present.

1947 to 1973 worker productivity up 2.7 percent per year.

1973 to early 1990’s 1.4 percent per year

1995 to 2004 2.9 percent per year increase in worker productivity.

Yet men’s median wages are lower than in 1973, and the other groups, women, blacks, etc. are lower than all men in 1973.

The workers became more productive, but wages stayed at or below the level of men in 1973.

What changed is that the top 1 percent get 20 percent of every 100 dollars we make now but only got 10 dollars per every 100 before the 1965 Immigration Act.

Scroll down (in link below) for graph:

U Shaped Income Inequality Timeline

The U shaped timeline on the graph shows that the top 1 percent got 20 percent of each 100 dollars created by Americans before immigration restriction in the 1920’s, got 10 dollars during restriction from the 1920’s to 1960’s, and now are back up to 20 percent with immigration.

Note that in the 1960’s it was still headed slightly lower at the time of the 1965 Immigration Act. Congress and the wealthy were in a panic. If it went to 1 percent that would mean perfect income equality. It got as low as 9 percent before turning back up. Immigration change is what explains the 2 turning points in the U shaped pattern. No other fact can explain both turning points.

For a more detailed discussion of this see

National Data, By Edwin S. Rubenstein
It’s Official: Immigration Causing Income Inequality

Northwestern University economists Ian Dew-Becker and Robert J. Gordon pointed out this U shaped pattern and that it can only be explained by immigration. Rubenstein discusses this in his article linked to above.

The authors of the graph state:

“NEW DATA SHOW EXTRAORDINARY JUMP IN INCOME CONCENTRATION IN 2004″ By Aviva Aron-Dine and Isaac Shapiro for a graph of income share of top 1 percent from 1913 to 2004.

U Shaped Income Inequality Timeline

—-Senators Vote their Stock Portfolios

7 of the top 8 wealthiest Senators voted for S. 2611, amnesty, affirmative action, non-deportable crime, and a pathway for the top 1 percent of households to continue to enjoy 20 percent of each year’s income, compared to 10 percent before Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act. The only 1 of the top 8 who didn’t vote for S. 2611 didn’t vote, Jay Rockefeller. McCain is 7th and Kennedy 8th in wealth.

Open Secrets

Rank Name Minimum Net Worth Maximum Net Worth

1 Herb Kohl (D-Wis) $219,098,029 to $234,549,004 Voted Yes S. 2611

2 John Kerry (D-Mass) $165,741,511 to $235,262,100 Voted Yes S. 2611

3 Jay Rockefeller (D-WVa) $78,150,023 to $101,579,003 Not Voting S. 2611

4 Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif) $43,343,464 to $98,660,021 Voted Yes S. 2611

5 Lincoln D. Chafee (R-RI) $41,153,105 to $64,096,019 Voted Yes S. 2611

6 Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ) $38,198,170 to $90,733,019 Voted Yes S. 2611

7 John McCain (R-Ariz) $25,071,142 to $38,043,014 Voted Yes S. 2611

8 Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass) $19,189,049 to $93,043,004 Voted Yes S. 2611

More data here

Free fax to Congress on hot immigration bills:


Labor Day is almost upon us, and like some of my fellow graybeards, I can, if I concentrate, actually remember what it was that this holiday once celebrated. Something about America being the land of broadly shared prosperity. Something about America being the first nation in human history that had a middle-class majority, where parents had every reason to think their children would fare even better than they had.
The young may be understandably incredulous, but the Great Compression, as economists call it, was the single most important social fact in our country in the decades after World War II. From 1947 through 1973, American productivity rose by a whopping 104 percent, and median family income rose by the very same 104 percent. More Americans bought homes and new cars and sent their kids to college than ever before. In ways more difficult to quantify, the mass prosperity fostered a generosity of spirit: The civil rights revolution and the Marshall Plan both emanated from an America in which most people were imbued with a sense of economic security.

That America is as dead as the dodo. Ours is the age of the Great Upward Redistribution.

Since 1973 productivity gains have outpaced median family income by 3 to 1.

from Devaluing Labor By Harold Meyerson
Wednesday, August 30, 2006; Page A19

Even WaPo knows its true.


Labor force participation rates of men (especially black men) have fallen since 1984:

and even from 1965 (requires excel, but you can get a viewer for free)

Black men have fallen from about 80 percent in 1965 to 66 percent in 2005, and are projected to fall further by 2014 because of continued legal immigration and illegal immigration and amnesty. Black and white men both had labor force participation rates of 80 percent in 1965. Whites are down to 74 percent.

BLS projects that Hispanic, black, white and Asian men will see their labor force participation rates fall from 2004 to 2014.

==Buchanan’s comment on wages and productivity

MR. BUCHANAN: OK, that means 86 percent of construction workers are American citizens or people here legally whom the illegal aliens are competing with, and they say the Americans won’t do their jobs. That’s nonsense.

Secondly, the congressman talks about working folks. In the nonmanagerial, 80 percent of American workers, or something like 93 million, their wages and the Bush boom, so-called, have been arrested. They are not going up. Productivity goes up, but wages aren’t going up.

It defies common sense to say you can bring in 36 to 40 million legal immigrants and 12 to 20 million illegal and not have those huge number of uneducated, unschooled folks, who many of whom don’t speak the language not drive down the wages of working Americans. That is prosperous. The Wall Street Journal—I don’t know what the editorial is—but The Wall Street Journal has been an open borders, pro-NAFTA, transnational newspaper for a long, long time.

REP. GUTIERREZ: The fact is that they do jobs. Every time you go to the grocery store and you get grapes, any agricultural…

The response of Gutierrez doesn’t address the point that productivity has gone up and median wages have stayed flat since 1973.

Gutierrez goes on to say:

REP. GUTIERREZ: …This population will need to be replaced.

This replacement is accomplished by taking jobs for lower wages. This is replacement economics.

Patrick Cleburne sums this exchange up nicely at Vdare: “Hispanic Congressman boasts: Illegals undercut American wages.”

Big Immigration, Low Employment
By Steven Camarota
The Center for Immigration Studies | June 25, 2007

Camarota documents that native unemployment or dropping out of the labor force in Georgia has matched immigration since 2000. He has a set of bullet points and a table at the end that document this in detail. This is direct substitution at lower wages and lower working conditions. This is exactly what Gutierrez is selling, as Patrick Cleburne points out. This is exactly what the US Senate is buying.

Free fax to Congress on hot immigration bills:

Also David Broder’s speaking fee is only 10 to 20,000 dollars.  David Broder has a folksy grandfather charm, sort of like Lee Hamilton.  This makes him trusted by ordinary folks who think he looks out for them.

David Broder has been a loyal voice for corporate immigration interests.  If you believe his speaking fee needs to go up to reflect that you can register at Washington Post and comment on how he needs to be rewarded.

David Broder homepage at WaPo 


Columnist, Washington Post, speaking fee info here.

Bush Senate Amnesty: Vendetta on Buchanan Perot voters for ’92, ’00 betrayals?

May 17, 2007

In the New York Times, RICHARD L. BERKE as Published: September 30, 1999 wrote about “Mr. Bush’s display of a festering resentment toward Mr. Perot and Mr. Buchanan”. Is Bush’s amnesty and legal immigration program part of this resentment? Did Bush have two vendettas when he became president, get Saddam Hussein for the attempt on his father’s life and get the Buchanan Perot voters for betraying his father in 1992 and causing his election defeat?

Bush Speaks of Perot and Buchanan Acting in ‘Vendetta’

Gov. George W. Bush sternly denounced Ross Perot and Patrick J. Buchanan today, suggesting that ”personal vendettas” may be driving their apparent alliance to have Mr. Buchanan seek the Reform Party nomination. Mr. Bush asserted that both men helped undermine his father’s unsuccessful campaign for re-election to the White House in 1992.

I’ve always thought the 1992 campaign was hard for my dad to get traction in the race because of, first, Patrick J. Buchanan, and then Ross Perot inflicted a series of cuts,” Mr. Bush said in a response to questions at a news conference in a two-day campaign swing in this state. ”If the adage is true — you die a death of a thousand cuts in politics — Ross Perot was a part of the thousand cuts.

Mr. Bush’s display of a festering resentment toward Mr. Perot and Mr. Buchanan was unusual in a campaign in which Mr. Bush has tried to strike an accommodating tone to win over a broad spectrum of voters.

Are Lou Dobbs Democrats taken from the Buchanan Perot voters, and now Bush focuses his resentment on them as well? Buchanan Perot voters voted against Bush Sr in 1992. They voted against Bush Jr. as governor of Texas, and Perot voters consider Perot a real Texican and Bush Jr. to be a Yale man carpetbagger. Pat Buchanan voters voted against Bush Sr. in 1992 and against Bush Jr. in 2000.

Buchanan voters caused the election to go to the Supreme Court. If they had all voted for Bush Jr. as they are supposed to, there would have been no problem in 2000.

Florida page 13:

Republican (Bush) 2,912,790

Democrat (Gore) 2,912,253

Reform (Buchanan) 17,484

Bush won, officially, by 537 votes. Pat Buchanan got 17,484 votes. So if Buchanan had not run, Bush would have won without the recount mess.

1992 Election,_1992

William Jefferson Clinton 43.0%

George H. W. Bush 37.4%

H. Ross Perot 18.9%

So if Perot had not run in 1992, Bush Sr. would have won, Bush Jr. can tell himself. It was the Buchanan Perot voters who betrayed Bush Sr. in 1992 and Bush Jr. in 2000. They are disloyal and Bush Jr. resents them. Or so we might infer. Bush Jr. ignored the warning signs before 9-11. After 9-11, he has done almost nothing to secure the borders or protect the people from immigration.

In 1992 and 2000, Buchanan Perot voters voted against immigration. They realize its harming them in wages and economic prosperity. Bush Jr. wants to fulfill his second vendetta, the first being against Saddam, on these voters by amnesty and legal immigration?

1996 election results wiki

Clinton 49.2

Dole 40.7

Perot 8.4

So Clinton picked up 6 percentage points from 1992 to 1996 from Perot. That is one way to define or measure Democrat votes taken by Perot, this is one way to measure the Lou Dobbs Democrats.


The following article makes the argument that it was the Perot voter who voted the Democrats into control of Congress in 2006.

Perot’s Revenge

“Put simply, 2006 saw the return of the Perot voter: economically populist, socially moderate voters with highly nationalist tendencies. Had the Democrats not courted candidates who fit this mold in a number of high profile races, Republicans would almost certainly control the Senate right now if not the House. Democratic candidates like Webb, McCaskill, Casey, and Tester all won by appealing to this specific group of voters who found themselves once again disenchanted with a Republican Party led by a president named Bush.”

“My guess is this group is also anti-free trade and strongly opposed to the president’s immigration plan. Again, Perotism rises 14 years later to defeat another guy named Bush.”

“The new Democratic majority has these voters to thank for its ascendancy. Without their votes in the industrial north, west, and midwest, Republicans would still be in charge.
… This gives Republicans a real shot at winning these voters back if the Boxerites take over the party the way they did after these same Perot types voted Democrat back in 1992 and watched as the party veered to the far left.”

Note, the odd question marks in the original were edited out.

Buchananites, Perot Voters, Nader Greens, Lou Dobbs Democrats. The name changes but the dissatisfaction with the two headed monster stays the same? And its because of bipartisan opposition to the American people on immigration, jihad, etc? The bipartisan jihad on the middle class is finally catching up with the two party duopoly as Nader calls it?


Many Bush Jr. administration appointees were from Bush Sr. administration. But many of these disliked Reagen Republicans and Reagen Democrats starting in or even before 1988.

Departing ship
By Daniel Gallington
May 19, 2007 Washington Times

In a nutshell, many of the “Bush I” people disliked the Reagan people because the Reaganites thought many of the Bush people second-rate.
In addition, many of the Bush I people tried very hard to be Reagan people and were not allowed in, not even during the second Reagan term, or even during the last half of the second Reagan term. Result? These were people with serious chips on their shoulders, especially for the Reagan-era traditional Republicans.

1992 Democrat Coalition calls Virgil Goode Bigot

December 22, 2006

On 9-11, as the smoke rose up, the MSM started calling those who had or might call on stopping immigration bigots. Why? Because Pat Buchanan said stop immigration in 1992 and they called him a bigot as an election ploy to get Clinton elected. They did the same in 1996 and in 2000 for Gore.

Those who were for immigration after the WTC 1993 attacks and before the WTC and Pentagon 2001 attacks know they can’t come out and directly call the 9-11 families, bigots. But they want to make the 9-11 families afraid to speak up too much to stop immigration.

So instead of calling the 9-11 families bigots, they call Virgil Goode a bigot. Or they might call Pat Buchanan or Lou Dobbs bigots. Paul Begala called Virgil Goode a bigot to frighten Bay Bucahan from telling that Begala was part of the 1992 Clinton election team that played with American lives by calling Buchanan a bigot. They won the 1992 election and on 9-11, almost 3000 people died from the immigration that Begala and Clinton said Buchanan was a bigot to want to stop.

Now we are going to hear everyone who was part of the 1992 coalition to elect Clinton call Virgil Goode a bigot. Why? Because they all have 9-11 guilt.

9-11 was a Muslim act of mass murder on Christians and Jews on American soil. Those who get fund raising from these sources, or want their votes have to call the truth tellers like Virgil Goode bigots to keep their supporters, donors, or voters from asking questions.

My security code is square.


“Surely, on this holiday eve, there is one Republican who wants to speak publicly for goodwill towards others, even if they’re Muslim.”

Surely, on this holiday eve, there is one Democrat who wants to speak publicly for goodwill towards others, even if they tell the truth about 9-11, the hijackers shouldn’t have been here, we should have stopped immigration after:

WTC 1993 Attack

1996 Bojinka Plot

1998 Embassy bombings

1998 bin Laden Fatwa

2000 Cole Attack

Aug 6 2001 PDB

9-11 2001

My security code is mine.


Good post Frog Daddy.

Some think the flying imams are meant to test our security and to make us give it up, and even make it illegal. Some think this or other incidents were a dry run.

Before 9-11, the schools where the hijackers trained were afraid to be called bigots if they turned them in. Some did anyhow, but the FBI had the same problem, especially at the top.

“hopefully we won’t learn the hard way.” that those who call us bigots were against us in the first place.

Those who call our champions bigots were against us in the first place.

Those who call truth tellers bigots were against us in the first place, and this is the truth they don’t want told the most.



I for one am sick of your racist crap, Old Atlantic. Would you suggest deporting everyone who came? Since when? Ellison dates his roots to the 18th century, is that far enough back for you? And Merry Christmas.
Posted by: global citizen

end quote

Virgil Goode brought up the issue of stopping immigration. Why do you conflate stopping immigration with deporting? Because to stop it is to admit it was wrong. That is why you switch from stopping immigration to deporting. In your heart, you know they shouldn’t have been allowed in.

Crying bigot is the last refuge of those who are wrong.

My security code is shoe. We have to take off our shoes because of the shoe bomber, who was, gasp, Muslim. He thought he was acting on the basis of Islam, and Islamic courts world wide tend to support that view. We have to decide if we want to stop things getting worse before America is Lebanon or wait until its Iraq.

How tired of racism will you be when America is in civil war like France already is? The racism that shoots you, bombs you, shoe bombs you, takes you hostage, asks for ransom, doesn’t let you put Cartoons where you want, is the real bigotry. They wrote it down in a book, its called the Koran. It means what it says. Muslims believe in the Koran, not you.


The Koran is written as war propaganda. It was written in 656 AD. It commands Muslims to fight non-Muslims and conquer the world. That’s what it says.

Religious courts in Islamic countries come to similar rulings on stoning and lashing women, etc.

Muslims believe in the Koran as written by God, every word. In every Muslim land, Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc. have been forced out or killed. That is going on today in Lebanon and Bethlehem.

Muslims don’t believe in you, they believe in the Koran. Muslims believe in Islam, its not what you believe in.

Liberals have 9-11 guilt. If they stop immigration now, they admit it was wrong after the WTC 93 attacks. They have to admit Pat Buchanan was right in 1992.

Liberals hate their victims, and they can’t admit the truth, which is what stopping immigration is, an admission of truth.

My security code is loss.


bin Laden’s 1998 Fatwa:

begin quote

Nothing is more sacred than belief except repulsing an enemy who is attacking religion and life.”

On that basis, and in compliance with Allah’s order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims: The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies — civilians and military — is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it,

end quote

Islam as a unitary entity, religious-political-military attacked the Christian Jewish Western Superpower in 633 AD. The Koran was written in 656 AD from recollections of warriors. It was written down starting in 633 AD because some Muslim holy warriors died in the 633 AD battle of Yamama initiated by Islam as a unitary entity against the Eastern Roman Empire, the Western superpower.

bin Laden’s fatwa is the same thing. His attack on 2001 is the same thing. We responded by sending armies to Afghanistan and then Iraq. It makes no sense to send armies there and not stop their immigration here. We stopped immigration after Pearl Harbor.

What’s the difference? 9-11 was an attack from within by immigrants, so to stop immigration now is an admission that Pat Buchanan was right in 1992 to want to stop immigration.

My security code is profit.


Bethlehem 85 percent Christian 1948, 12 percent 2006. There is violence against Christians in Bethlehem today, which is done by Muslims.

Most Muslims want Sharia law in Palestine. University of Jordan did a survey of views in Palestine and other Muslim lands, and most Muslims i all those countries want Sharia law as a source or the sole source of law.

Christians in Morocco are persecuted. Its in every Muslim country.

Americans were taking hostage by North African countries c. 1800, c. 1900, and have been taken hostage or attacked multiple times by other Muslim countries. From 1500 to the French occupation in the 19th century, North Africa took over 1 million Christians slaves in raiding parties on the seas, Europe and North America.

One act of kindness or even many doesn’t make up for an eventual genocide or forcing out. Muslims want Sharia law, they want Islam, that’s why they are Muslims.

Real bigots are liberals who say that Muslims believe what they believe in.

Letting Muslims in the West has corresponded to persecution of Christians and Jews and Hindus in Muslim lands. It makes them think they are winning. Qaddafi said in 50 years Europe will be Muslim. Ergo, Muslims don’t have to change, i.e. become liberals.

Muslims aren’t liberals. You hate Protestants so much, you can’t see that. They take your comments as the sign of weakness.

Also your argument on sign of weakness doesn’t make sense. If they thought like you do, they would stop persecuting Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Jews, etc. in their lands, which they don’t.

My security code is brain.


Cousin X,

Bad acts by others don’t make it desirable to have bad acts inflicted on us. All the bad acts in history by Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc. won’t make me want to be a victim of Muslim violence.

You are a very sad, ignorant, man.
Use your security code.
Posted by: ENZA

Can you be more specific? How ignorant? Why do you want Muslim immigration? What benefit does it have? Immigration has a substitution effect, all immigation does. This makes it undesirable, period.

My security code is wind, as in Wind and the Lion, when Americans were held hostage in Morocco, c. 1900.


sami, I agree with many of your comments, but the issue is continued Muslim immigration. I believe all immigration should stop, with no amnesties or guest worker.

It isn’t beating on immigrants to stop future immigration. This is one of the logical fallacies that permeates the pro immigration arguments.

Sustained immigration causes genetic survival ratios to asymptote to zero. Search on “Unpleasant Immigration Arithmetic”. Thus its irrational. This is true for each annual cohort of immigrants, not just those here.


“And all the bad acts in history by Muslims won’t make me want to be a victim of Fundamentalist / Right Wing violence.”

The only fundamentlist violence going on is that being done by Muslims in the US, France, UK, Lebanon, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan, etc.


Realist, I agree with your remarks up to your final sentence. See link on this post for comments on Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

BTW Complete 9-11 Timeline needs money and is exposing Bush links to Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.  They have a matching grant but are behind in meeting it.

My security code is judge.

Paul Begala should apologize to Bay Buchanan, Pat and Virgil Goode

December 21, 2006

It isn’t right for people on TV to call Goode a bigot or ask others to while Danish Cartoonists are in hiding and CNN won’t put the Danish Cartoons on its webpage.

Only those who have spoken out for Rushdie, the Danish Cartoonists, and all the rest in hiding have the moral right to call Goode a bigot.

Its wrong to put people on TV on the spot to denounce Goode’s comments when the same TV people or their station is afraid of Muslim death threats.

This happened to Bay Buchanan on CNN with Begala and Wolf Blitzer.

Begala was in the Clinton administration. Clinton let the 19 hijackers in.

The schools where they trained were in some cases afraid to turn in the hijackers for fear of being called bigot.

After 9-11, Bush and Mineta praised Islam and said no profiling. But secretly they knew they had been given warnings. They used the bigot charge to keep people from asking questions.

Begala and the Clinton team let in the 19 hijackers. They called Pat Buchanan a bigot in 1996 for wanting to stop the immigration.

Its wrong for Begala to be part of the Clinton team that let in the hijackers, let them train at schools, ignored the warnings, called Pat Buchanan names, and then pressure his sister on CNN to denounce Goode.

Begala should apologize for calling Pat Buchanan a bigot in 1996 when Pat wanted to stop immigration. Begala did the same thing as Mineta and Bush after 9-11, to cover up his own guilt for calling Pat Buchanan a bigot in 1996, he threatened his sister Bay with the same thing if she wanted to stop immigration.

How many times must we be attacked and have the people like Begala responsible for letting them in get away with calling Pat Buchanan a bigot for wanting to stop them?

Why is Begala a moral person for letting the 19 hijackers in, but Pat Buchanan is a bigot for warning to keep them out?

This is the same cover up scheme that Mineta, Bush, C. Rice, Peter Jennings, Clinton, Begala, etc. said after 9-11 and on the day of 9-11. The smoke was rising up as they started calling people who wanted to stop immigration bigots.

The 9-11 families were the targets of the MSM on 9-11. The President in his Religion of Peace speech was threatening to call the 9-11 families bigots if they asked for Muslim immigration to stop.

This is so 1938 its unbelievable.

Begala should apologize to the 9-11 families for failing them like Richard Clarke did. Begala shouldn’t call anyone a bigot while he has this guilt. Begala should apologize to Pat Buchanan for Buchanan being called a bigot in 1996. The Clinton team did that deliberately in 1996. They traded almost 3000 lives on 9-11 to win re-election in 1996. They need to apologize to the 9-11 families for that election and for calling Pat Buchanan a bigot in 1996.

CNN should apologize to Bay Buchanan, the 9-11 families, the Danish Cartoonists and the American people for how they have covered this issue from 1993 to present.

==The Paul Begala incident on the Wolf Blitzer show

PAUL BEGALA, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: You know, well, first, just call a spade a spade. Virgil Goode is a bigot and he’s an idiot. Let’s hope he clears that up when he has his press conference, because lots of people misspeak.

BLITZER: Let me read once again for you, Bay, and for our viewers precisely what is in this letter that he wrote: “If American citizens don’t wake up and adopt the Virgil Goode position on immigration, there will likely be many more Muslims elected to office and demanding the use of the Koran.”

(You have to see the video to see how she was put on the spot throughout this question and the subsequent discussion.)

BAY BUCHANAN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: I can understand what he is trying to say. I think that his choice of words were outrageous. I think it’s a clear mistake that he made, to suggest that we should be worried that Keith Ellison is a — happens to be a Muslim, and is elected now to the Congress, wants to use a Koran.

I don’t see any problem with any of the above, none whatsoever. I think what he — what he is trying to say, which I think is a legitimate point, is that, as a nation, we should get control of our immigration laws, and make certain we have a national debate as to what is our best interests as to who is coming and who we are inviting into this country.

And that is a legitimate national debate, not what we’re doing today. But I think this is something not quite that. And I think this is a mistake.

When she says “This is a mistake” she means what is being done to her. This is the main clue from the transcript of just how much she felt set up and put in a position by Begala.

And, yes, Virginia, it was a mistake, for Begala to do this, possibly planned out in advance, knowing Bay Buchanan would feel vulnerable because Pat Buchanan was attacked the same way as Virgil Goode was just then by Paul Begala during the 1996 Clinton Dole campaign. It was a mistake for Wolf Blitzer to let it happen. This isn’t the first time Begala and Blitzer have been on TV or been through one of these.

Then they talked about Sandy Berger. Was Begala trying to so upset Bay Buchanan that Begala could skate the truth about the new information about the Berger incident with Bay Buchanan so shaken up she couldn’t nail him on it?

Is there still a cover up going on by the Clinton administration about anything that happened between Jan 20, 1993 and Jan 20,2001?


No TV network, no newspaper, no blog page has a moral right to call Goode or Pat Buchanan bigots unless it has defended the Danish Cartoonists, and all the others and apologize to the 9-11 families for letting PC let the 19 hijackers in legally after the WTC 1993 attack and bin Laden’s declaration of war.

They must say to the families that they failed them when they called Pat Buchanan a bigot in 1996 and on the day of 9-11 by continuing that.

President Bush must apologize for the religion of peace speech when he knew he had the warnings on August 6, 2001 and was covering that up. He and all the others in the Clinton and Bush administration must apologize for letting PC prevent stopping the 9-11 attacks.

They must also apologize to the Danish Cartoonists and everyone in hiding since their earlier failures.

They must apologize, all of them, to future victims. Whenever they issue a warning, they should issue an apology for letting PC prevent saving the lives of Americans on 9-11.

==How to answer Begala, Blitzer, etc.

If you are on TV and you are asked to denounce someone or some idea, ask to see the 12 Danish Cartoons on their web page first and to show them right then on the TV before you answer.

Show all the Danish Cartoons before asking me that question and put them all on your web page, and then I will answer.

They will say, what’s that got to do with this?


==Was Paul Begala lying in wait for Bay Buchanan?

Did Paul Begala intentionally do what he did to Bay Buchanan?

He is an experienced campaign operative and strategist. He coaches people on what to do in these situations. Wasn’t this deliberate?

Wasn’t Paul Begala intentionally covering up for the Clinton administration 9-11 guilt?

Wasn’t he intentionally doing what Peter Jennings, Norman Mineta, and George Bush did on and after 9-11?

Isn’t it all the same? Isn’t it all true?

At last sir, have you no decency?

Does the Clinton team have no decency?

Didn’t the Clinton team choose to cover up and lie about sex, FBI files, travelgate, IMF loans to Russia, Wall Street trading Russian government bonds, Paula Jones IRS audit, Judicial Watch IRS audit, IRS audits of the other Clinton women, the 1990’s stock market bubble, Saudi Arabia funding terrorism, Pakistan’s nuclear program, Chinese influence, and all the rest instead of stopping immigration after the WTC 1993 attack, the August 1998 embassy bombings, the USS Cole attack in 2000, bin Laden’s declaration of war in 1998 and all the other classified information they have never disclosed?

The MSM, Bush team, Democrats, Republicans, Congress, Blair, Labour Party, Conservative Party, Lib Dems, profs, think tanks, and all the rest?

==Who should receive an apology:

  1. Virgil Goode
  2. 9-11 Families
  3. American People
  4. Bay Buchanan
  5. Pat Buchanan
  6. Bob Dole
  7. Danish Cartoonists
  8. Rushdie
  9. All others in hiding
  10. All those who had to engage in ritual denunciations from fear of PC or Muslim terrorists.
  11. Future victims of sleeper cells already in the US after the 1993 WTC attack.
  12. Future victims of sleeper cells already in the US after the 1998 embassy bombings attack.
  13. Future victims of sleeper cells already in the US after the 1998 bin Laden declaration of war.
  14. Future victims of sleeper cells already in the US after the August 6, 2001 PDB.
  15. Future victims of sleeper cells already in the US after the 2001 WTC and Pentagon attack.
  16. Future victims of sleeper cells already in the US after each and every event on the Complete 9-11 Timeline started by Paul Thompson and championed by the 9-11 Families. (And they need money, please donate this Dec 2006 they have a 10,000 matching grant.)
  17. Future victims of sleeper cells to enter after today, whatever day today is.

Future Operating Procedures

No network or newspaper like CNN should allow anyone who asks for stopping Muslim immigration to be called a bigot or ask someone to denounce them until they apologize to all the above and post the Danish Cartoons, and show them on TV and publish them in their print edition, whatever is applicable.


To avoid the overposting police, I have added to the above

Paul Begala should apologize to Bay Buchanan, Pat and Virgil Goode

Virgil Goode Right: Stop Muslim Immigration

I shall just say whenever one is put on the spot to ritually denounce Goode or anyone else for PC violations, ask the TV station to

(1) First show all 12 Danish Cartoons

(2) Post them on their webpage

And they should show all 12 before you answer.

Bring them with you and ask them to show them on the TV and then post them on their webpage.

Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 21, 2006 08:08 PM

==What to say to Paul Begala

Ask him to apologize to the 9-11 Famlies for failing them by letting the 19 hijackers immigrate after 9-11.

Ask Begala to apologize to the 9-11 Families for calling Pat Buchanan, or others associated with the Democratic Party or Clinton admin, a bigot when he wanted to stop or limit immigration after the WTC 1993 attacks during the 1996 Clinton Dole Presidential Campaign.

Ask Begala to apologize to Pat Buchanan and his sister for these incidents.

Ask him to apologize to all those in hiding now because of events that happened after the WTC 1993 on the Clinton watch.

Ask him to apologize for all the scandals of the Clinton years that kept them from dealing with the WTC 1993 attacks.

Ask him to apologize for not responding to the WTC 1993 attacks with at least as much action as after the WTC and Pentagon 2001 attacks.

Ask him to apologize for the role of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan being covered up by both the Clinton and Bush teams.

Ask him to apologize for the 1995 Jamie Gorelick Wall Memo.

Ask him to apologize for the joint cover up by Democrats and Republicans, Clinton and Bush of all the things that happened from Jan 20, 1989 to present.

Ask him to apologize for all of the issues raised above.

Ask him if he has, at last, no decency, and when he and the Clinton team and the Democratic Party lost it?


Ask for a moment of silence for past and future victims of what they are afraid to name.

And another moment for all its victims around the world today, all those in prison, being tortured, denied legal rights, women denied equality, people in hiding in any country, and all the rest, all of it from something they can’t name and are afraid to name lest they too have to go in hiding or receive death threats, which many can’t afford the body guards for.

Ask for a moment of silence of all the victims of the 1930’s in the Soviet Union when the New York Times would not tell the truth and covered it up.

All the victims of Hitler who could have been saved if the truth and action had been taken sooner.

All the victims of the Muslim genocide of Christians and Jews in the Ottoman Empire and its successor states from 1890 to the present and for not naming what is causing this.

Another moment for all those who almost died in the cold war and might still from letting Russia, China, Pakistan, North Korea, and now it appears Iran get nuclear weapons.


“”PC” may have been invented by some misguided liberals, ”

From wiki

begin quote

The contemporary use of the term political correctness is said to derived from Marxist-Leninist vocabulary to describe the Party Line. [1]

The term was transformed and used jokingly within the Left by the early 1980s, possibly earlier. [citation needed] In this context, the phrase was applied to either an over-commitment to various left-wing political causes, especially within Marxism or the feminist movement; or to a tendency by some of those dedicated to these causes to be more concerned with rhetoric and vocabulary than with substance.

end quote

Only those who have stood up for the Danish Cartoonists, and all others in hiding in Western
or Muslim lands for speaking the truth have a moral right to call Goode, Pat Buchanan or anyone else a bigot.

All those in the MSM, or Democratic Party or Clinton Administration who called Pat Buchanan a bigot for saying restrict immigration then in the 1996 Clinton Dole presidential race should apologize to the 9-11 families. They knew on 9-11, that their words had cost the 3000 people their lives.

The MSM, Clinton and Bush teams then pre-emptively used PC language to frighten the 9-11 families from questioning why immigration continued after the WTC 1993 attack by Muslim immigrants. This goes on and we are watching the same techniques used on 9-11 on TV and afterwards against the 9-11 Families on Virgil Goode.


Good bumper sticker Caroline. That’s what Virgi Goode or Bay Buchanan should say next time they get accosted by the MSM apology police.

Its interesting that the Saudi Religious Police, Paul Begala, and the MSM police all want Virgil Goode and Bay Buchanan to say the same thing.

I wonder if Virgil Goode’s two names have something to do with his deciding to stand up for truth and Americans.

Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 21, 2006 10:21 PM



The next time Bay Buchanan is on Wolf Blitzer with Begala and they ask her to apologize and ritually denounce Goode, she should say, do you guys work for the Saudi Religious Police?


CNN should have had Robert Spencer instead of Bay Buchanan to be the opposite view to Paul Begala.

They chose Bay Buchanan because she doesn’t know enough about Islam and all the history to answer PC loaded, surrender or be called a bigot questions. To stand up to those you need an enormous amount of knowledge.

They chose her as their victim intentionally.

The answer to PC is knowledge. But you have to have a lot of knowledge to be able to use it on the spot on TV with the sickle of being denounced as a bigot hanging over your head.

Begala preps people for TV and debate. He knows what it is. He knew what he was doing.

Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 21, 2006 10:32 PM

Standing up to PC loaded questions to denounce someone takes the specialized knowledge and daily practice in Islam and current events involving it of a Robert Spencer. Its like surgery or litigation. You need someone who does it every day.

Begala knew that. That’s why he picked on Bay Buchanan. He had choreographed that denunciation of Virgil Goode the way a football coach scripts out the first plays of a football game. In fact, he did it like a Paul Begala scrips out a gotcha gimmick in a political debate.



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