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November 30, 2006

“Jim Webb, Democratic senator-elect from Virginia, has become a pompous poseur and an abuser of the English language before actually becoming a senator.”

Will is saying Webb is a poseur because Webb says he is for people. Webb wants to stop all guest worker. This includes H1B. Immigration harms young adults by taking away their job security. Without that they can’t get married, have kids and stay married.

Without that, our society loses purpose and meaning. That is precisely what people compalin of. Teens see they have no future and commit meaningless violence.

George Will is the pompous poseur. He is halfway in the K-Street door of the RINO elite that is for big immigration and considers Americans bigots for wanting to end it, all of it legal or illegal.

Will supports amnesty (admittedly Webb does too)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/29/AR2006032902004.html

Will supports unlimited H1B’s.

“Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.”

See also for a pro Will perspective:
http://carryonamerica.com/?p=134

Will, Fred Barnes, Bill Kristol, and Paul Gigot do not support the more stringent Tancredo approach and Kristol even calls his approach “liberal.” More and more of the conservative pundits, minus Pat Buchanan, seem to favor this type of pragmatic approach.”

Some comments on Daily Kos about Will and Immigration

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/11/22/105650/65

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2006/11/22/105650/65/24#c24

In today’s world, an economist is someone who can prove definitively that you have no right to have a job, or medical insurance, and that your job not only SHOULD be shipped to India, but an economically reasonable person would be EAGER to see their job off-shored.

That’s George Will. He is sitting there telling the rest of us that we have no rights to jobs, and that economic rationality means that all our jobs will soon go to China, and that we should be pleased with this.

by centerdem on Wed Nov 22, 2006 at 08:48:47 AM PST”

=== Comments from WaPo

Why doesn’t George Will just say he is for MSM government of the elite by the elite for the elite. He is condemnding Webb, lest government of the elite should perish from Washington D.C., WaPo and the rest of the MSM. I am surprised he didn’t attack Lou Dobbs and Tom Tancredo while he was at it.

Or maybe its government of the people by the elite for the elite.

Or government of the people by the prissy George Will for the elites.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2006112901267&start=621

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 1:05:44 PM

“quote In todays world, an economist is someone who can prove definitively that you have no right to have a job, or medical insurance, and that your job not only SHOULD be shipped to India, but an economically reasonable person would be EAGER to see their job off-shored. Thats George Will. He is sitting there telling the rest of us that we have no rights to jobs, and that economic rationality means that all our jobs will soon go to China, and that we should be pleased with this. by centerdem on Wed Nov 22, 2006 at 08:48:47 AM PST dailykos 2006 endquote

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 9:14:39 AM”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2006112901267&start=221

“You can’t be on good terms with Bush. Bush is against us and
against reason. Bush is on the side of the Baker Botts Bush family. Bush chose Prince Bandar after 9-11. He chose to be against America and cover up the Saudi Pakistan financed attack on America.

Most of above on page 12 or 13.

quote WOW! Will must have hit a left nerve! Webb isnt so much a boor as he is just plain arrogant and obviously not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Webb had an opportunity to form a civil working relationship with Bush and he threw that opportunity away. He effectively made himself politically invisible to the White House and certainly useless to Virginia. And to think he achieved that even before taking office! Way to go, Webb! By JackESpratt | Nov 30, 2006 9:09:49 AM end quote. You cant be on good terms with Bush. Bush is against us and against reason. Bush is on the side of the Baker Botts Bush family. Bush chose Prince Bandar after 9-11. He chose to be against America and cover up the Saudi Pakistan financed attack on America.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 1:11:51 PM |

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2006112901267&start=641

page 33.

How far does the Post system run in numbering pages? It looks like its at the limit? If we reach the limit will Bush and the lobbyist bought Congress and their MSM flacks like Will all resign? At least will Will resign?

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 1:14:13 PM
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quote If anyone is an expert on pompous and being a poseur, its you, will. By pssixsix | Nov 30, 2006 2:37:07 PM end quote. That is the truth. Will is also an expert on toadying to power. Will knows how to keep down the people, he attacks the politicians elected to speak for them at his first chance. This was a calculated attack. Will was looking for his opening. Jim Webb ran as in effect the only Senator willing to speak up against guest worker, H1B, and the rest of the lies that Will spews out for his corporate paycheck.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 2:39:47 PM

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George Will is an anti-American bigot. You can hear it when he and the elite talk about immigration. They call us lazy and stupid. quote “Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.” end quote. That is from George Will. Translation: Americans are too dumb and lazy to learn math. This is anti-American bigotry. That is common to the elite. Biden, Kennedy, McCain, etc. constantly say Americans are too dumb and lazy to learn math.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 3:06:12 PM
The elite have a culture of hatred of Americans and express it openly. When they say Americans are too stupid for math and science, that is expressing their hatred of Americans.
By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 3:09:23 PM

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Jim Webb wants to end all guest worker programs. Will wants unlimited guest worker in all technical fields. Will thinks Americans are too dumb or lazy to do these jobs. Will wants to take away job security from young adults. If they can’t have job security, they can’t stay married after they have kids. Because they can’t stay married after they have kids, they won’t have kids. Because they won’t have kids, they won’t get married. Because they won’t get married, they don’t have to be paid well or get benefits. This is the elite mentality. Will is a spokesperson for the CEO’s. Webb is exposing that. This was a predesigned hit job. If not this, Will would have used something else for his hit job on Webb.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 6:32:29 PM

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George Will: Pharoanic Pompous Poseur Pedant Peurile Pentagonic Porous Photodegenerate Fallacious Fount of Phosphoric Fury Fibrillating Fantasy of Ferrous Foxlike Fabulous Phoenix Faux Fumes of Philly Foulness Fabricating Photovoltaic Fibers Foully Finking Fibbing Fishmongering Foulmouthing Files From Pools of Frogs Foulest Frothing Fiends Fool Fruity Forked Faust.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 8:38:33 PM

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“Obviously somebody`s orchestrating these flames. Pathetic.

By zjr78xva | Nov 30, 2006 8:52:17 PM”

Or did George Will touch some real resentment of the disloyal elite, of which he is the most egregious example?

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George Will wants to concentrate on the topic of rudeness, not loyalty to Americans. Saying George Will and George Bush arent loyal to Americans on guest worker is rude. Saying they are loyal only to their own in group is rude and crude. Webb is about displacing them. This is the sound of the George Will MSM being displaced from its throne to mock us for wanting job, physical, and speech security. We want to be heard, and George Will doesnt want us to be heard. Jim Webb speaks for Americans kept down and put down by George Will and George Bush for decades.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 9:18:07 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/comments/display?contentID=AR2006112901267&start=1321

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quote destruction of the middle class end quote.gaburdman | Nov 30, 2006 9:40:10 PM. That is exactly right. George Will and his cohorts on ABC have chortled over the decline of those they went to high school with or their children or grand children. They exult in their status. They have no loyalty at all to where they come from or who they come from. George Will personifies that above all others.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 9:45:43 PM

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George Will you are a Benedict Arnold to the American middle class. So is the MSM including the ABC team. So is George Bush. You took the side of Saudi Arabia. You took the side of what attacked us. You have covered up the 27 pages that Congress couldn’t publish.

quote Saudi Government Provided Aid to 9/11 Hijackers, Sources Say
By Josh Meyer
The Los Angeles Times

Saturday 02 August 2003

WASHINGTON – The 27 classified pages of a congressional report about Sept. 11 depict a Saudi government that not only provided significant money and aid to the suicide hijackers but also allowed potentially hundreds of millions of dollars to flow to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups through suspect charities and other fronts, according to sources familiar with the document.

One U.S. official who has read the classified section said it describes “very direct, very specific links” between Saudi officials, two of the San Diego-based hijackers and other potential co-conspirators “that cannot be passed off as rogue, isolated or coincidental.”

Said another official: “It’s really damning. What it says is that not only Saudi entities or nationals are implicated in 9/11, but the [Saudi] government” as well. end quote.

You and George Bush have betrayed the people of this country for your personal profit.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 9:52:36 PM

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WP EDITORS, also apologize to the American middle class for betraying it for the last 40 years since the 1965 Immigration Act. You can apologize for calling us bigots while you take away our job security. You can apologize to young adults who can’t get married, have kids and stay married because you have taken their job security for yourselves. George Bush can do the same. You can apologize for letting Pakistan keep its nukes after 9-11, while we wasted our lives in Iraq that has no nukes. You can apologize for our wasting our lives in Iraq instead of stopping North Korea from getting nukes. The American people do want to stop these dangerous regimes from getting nukes. George Bush betrayed us in Iraq.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 10:09:09 PM

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Request George Wills Removal

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 10:12:16 PM

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quote “infinitely richer” end quote. This has over 40,000 hits in google. So its an acceptable figure of speech.

Dictionary com tells us one meaning is unbounded. If we plot the ratio of George Will’s pay to that of the median worker it continues to rise. If this process continued through time, it would be unbounded.

Webb’s comment was quote America’s top tier has grown infinitely richer and more removed over the past 25 years. end quote.

So as a process in time, it does appear unbounded. This ratio has increased without hitting the upper bound of our patience, yet.

You keep getting away with more immigration to keep us afraid. You take our job, education, physical and speech security from us.

We have to speak up anyhow. You and the rest of the MSM are surpised each time it happens. Lou Dobbs and Tom Tancredo and Jim Webb are something you dismiss, but the people don’t. They speak up for us.That’s what you hate, because in the end, its us that you have disdain and contempt for, not just Webb.

You are telling Webb, be quiet, take the money, and get along. Sell them out. Take Saudi money like Jim Baker. Take oil pipeline money like Baker Botts. Take it. Forget them.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 10:31:49 PM
Men’s median wages are below what they were in 1973. But George Will’s, George Bush’s, and Baker Botts are not.

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quote America’s top tier has grown infinitely richer and more removed over the past 25 years. end quote. Men’s median wages are no higher than in 1973. But George Will’s, George Bush’s, and Baker Botts are not. Could it be that Webb threatens the upward line of your compensation Mr. Will? If Webb sits down, is quiet and takes money, then your wages keep going up? Webb threatens your pocket book. For that you speak up. You want to keep us down, so your corporate masters will pay you more.

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quote The United States has asked for and received extraordinary help from Pakistan in the war on terrorism. end quote. From George Will, search George Will Pakistan.

quote Alabama and one in North Carolina, have significant numbers of textile workers. end quote

Whose jobs you want to give to Pakistan. What did Pakistan do for us in the war on terror? It may have helped finance 9-11. Now it supports the Taliban against our troops.

quote made short shrift of the Taliban end quote.

Not quite George. The Taliban is back, with the help of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.Those are your and George Bush’s allies against the American people.

Why do you speak up for countries that helped attack us on 9-11 and now support the insurgencies against our troops?

Why do you support unlimited H1B so that China can get our night vision and use it against our troops?

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 10:49:52 PM

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quote “Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.” end quote. From an earlier George Will column.

Search on Chinese night vision. China got our night vision and sells it to Pakistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia who supply it to the insurgents to use on our troops.

How do we save money to have our troops killed or maimed by our own night vision technology? Why do you have no loyalty to our troops? Jim Webb does. He wants our night vision technology and other advantages kept here, not given to George Bush allies like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to give to the insurgents to use against our troops.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 10:56:26 PM

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Search on Indian stealth Noshir Gowadia. He was born in India and sold our stealth technology to China. How does that save us money? After George Bush finalized the India Nuclear Deal, India did a deal with China. What do you know about India, China, etc. having kompromat on George Bush?

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 11:01:57 PM

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The real reason you hate James Webb, is that Webb is loyal to America and our troops, and George Bush and George Will aren’t. They use these as slogans but lie. They are both as disloyal to our troops as to our middle class.

They sell out our night vision and stealth technology to China as they sell out education opportunities in math and science at our own universities and our jobs in those fields. Those are supposed to be the high pay high benefit jobs.

We are supposed to sacrifice to get education for them, and then you take them from us and give them to people from India and China. Then they sell weapons based on that tech to Saudi Arabia, Iran and Pakistan that supply them to the insurgents to use on our troops. They and we are killed and maimed.

You say it saves money. It only saves you money and those you answer to, the Baker Botts law firms, lobbyists and big money interests that pay you and George Bush. Webb isn’t taking the money to be quiet, so you attack him on flimsy grounds.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 30, 2006 11:07:41 PM

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quote and even the conservative columnist George Will notes in the Washington Post, quote It is not fantasy that there have been many reports that the then-head of Pakistani intelligence was responsible for $100,000 being wired to Mohamed Atta, the lead 9/11 hijacker. end quote [Washington Post, 10/5/2003] end quote. from Cooperativeresearch. How can George Will be supporting George Bush in 2006 against Jim Webb, when he himself has pointed out in 2003 that Bush betrayed us on Pakistan? What does Will know about the relationship between Pakistan and George Bush? Why did George Will not oppose George Bush in 2004 because Bush covered up the Pakistan and Saudi Arabia role in financing 9-11, and in supporting and financing the insurgencies in Afghanistan and Iraq?

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 7:11:22 AM

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quote These pols play on the fantasies of mildly delusional voters. end quote from R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr., Unpleasant People’s Party, in Wash Times today.

So James Webb is hit from both barrels of the Washington establishment. They can’t stand a Senator who tells the truth.

quote mildly delusional voters end quote. Men’s real wages are below what they were in 1973. CEO and George Will wages are up.

Since 9-11, the price of oil has gone from about 25 dollars a barrel to over 60. So Saudi Princes income is up. Prince Bandar and Prince al Turki have done well with the Bush post 9-11 policy of blame Saddam.

But the American middle class is left behind. We need job security for young adults so they can get married, have kids and stay married. That means no immigration, no guest worker. That isn’t a delusion, its reality.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 8:54:07 AM
A better tack on immigration

By R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr.
December 2, 2005

“There is a market for immigrants in this country. The president is more cognizant of this than those who would restrict immigration. But consider the market for a minute: (1) producers need immigrants; (2) Immigrants come because there is work that enriches them. This market has helped the economy. It is growing robustly and without unemployment, one of the feared downsides of immigration or even illegal immigration. We are almost at full employment, and with 2 to 3 times as many illegal immigrants in the country as in the mid-1980s, when former Sen. Alan Simpson, Wyoming Republican, last addressed the immigration issue. That pretty much proves the economy can accept immigration and prosper.”

So Tyrrel is a big immigrationist, just like George Will. Both want to take away job security from young adults, thus depriving them of the essential security to get married, have kids and stay married.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Tyrrell

search R. Emmett Tyrell “immigration”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Spectator

The American Spectator is a conservative U.S. monthly magazine covering news and politics, edited by R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr. and published by the non-profit American Spectator Foundation.”

“From its founding in 1967 until the late 1980s, the small-circulation magazine featured the writings of authors such as Thomas Sowell, Tom Wolfe, P.J. O’Rourke, George F. Will, Patrick J. Buchanan, Alex Linder and Malcolm Muggeridge,”
search American Spectator “George Will” 146,000 hits

So Tyrrell in the Washington Times is rushing to the defense of George Will against the reader response at Washington Post.

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Comment in Post:

Unpleasant people’s party?

By R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr.
December 1, 2006 This is another attack piece on Webb. This may be a response to yesterday’s reader response to George Will. Tyrrell published George Will in his American Spectator. Tyrrell like Will supports big immigration and guest worker.
quote There is a market for immigrants in this country. The president is more cognizant of this than those who would restrict immigration. But consider the market for a minute: (1) producers need immigrants; (2) Immigrants come because there is work that enriches them. This market has helped the economy. It is growing robustly and without unemployment, one of the feared downsides of immigration or even illegal immigration. We are almost at full employment, and with 2 to 3 times as many illegal immigrants in the country as in the mid-1980s, when former Sen. Alan Simpson, Wyoming Republican, last addressed the immigration issue. That pretty much proves the economy can accept immigration and prosper. end quote.

From “A better tack on immigration”

By R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr.
December 2, 2005 Washington Times.

Also at American Spectator

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10692

Tyrrell is part of the Washington big immigration establishment. Unemployment is low, but median wages for men are below what they were in 1973.

Tyrrell is pushing immigration for employers. Tyrrell is pushing down our wages and our benefits.

Young adults need job security. They need jobs with good wages and benefits. They need job security to get married, have kids and stay married.

They look forward and work backwards. They may not stay married with kids without a good job, especially for the man. Men’s wages are below what they were in 1973.

They won’t have kids if they are married if they don’t think they will have job security and stay married. So they don’t have kids while married.

Because they have figured out they won’t have kids if they get married, they don’t get married. So the lack of job security works its way backwards in their decision tree.

They can’t be sure they will stay married after having kids, so they don’t have kids while married. They forecast that, so they don’t get married.

Teenagers then see that they have no near term prospects of settling down. That takes away meaning from their lives. Their biological clock tells them to have kids as teens. But they see that men of all ages are losing good jobs and not getting new jobs with good wages, benefits, job security, and workplace dignity.

So teens go wilding without the prospect of entering a stable adult world as workers and parents. This undermines the entire stability of society. The result is crime. Teen crime shoots up. This is what happened after the 1965 Immigration Act. Congress created a crime wave. We are living in it still.

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Will quote “Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.” end quote.

Tyrrell quote There is a market for immigrants in this country. end quote.
Tyrrell and Will have supported Chinese and Indian grad students and H1B’s coming to America. They have gained our night vision tech and produce it in China and India and sell it to Pakistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia. They supply it to the insurgents to use against our troops. Tyrrell and Will have supported this know-how transfer and championed it.

Christians in Virginia and Indiana won’t listen to the left attack Tyrrell and Will. But they will listen to Webb. Webb is an authentic American hero. When he tells Christians in Virginia and Indiana that Tyrrell and Wil have given our night vision to Chinese grad students and now its
in the hands of insurgents who use it to kill and maim our troops, those Christians will listen.

That is why Tyrrell and Will fear Webb. Tyrrell and Will are not loyal to Americans. They are not loyal to the Christians in Indiana and Virginia who listen to them. Webb is someone those Christians will listen to and learn the truth that Tyrrell and Will have put our night vision in the hands of insurgents who kill and maim our troops.

They are being paid off by the Washington establishment and ultimately law firms and think tanks acting for China. Tyrrell and Will don’t want Christians in Virginia and Indiana to hear this from Webb. Neither do George Bush or John McCain.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 10:53:03 AM

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Two links from American Spectator website:

Tax Havens
Offshore Banking

Spectator is published by Tyrrell who has published Will articles in it. They are defending each other together. Jim Webb is against Tax Havens and Offshore Banking and the Washingont pundits who pretend to be for people but are really linked to this. This is another reason they don’t want Webb exposing them. Webb won’t just take money and be quiet. They want Webb to take the Washington money and pretend to be for people, like them. They want Webb to let China get our night vision and pretend to support our troops, like them. They want guest workers and grad students to take away our know-how and job security and pretend to be for the middle class, like them.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 11:02:41 AM

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quote

Do you think there is even a chance that George Will or any of the editors or WaPo are reading these comments to see how far off base they are with average Americans? Naw. That would imply that they care what we think when it is clear that they only like what is said in their little echo chamber. WaPo and mainstream news are headed the way of the dinasaur because they refuse to listen.
By Krotten1 | Dec 1, 2006 12:04:29 PM end quote.

You are right. They are saying we are disgruntled rodents. That is why they keep pushing guest worker, H1B, no Americans in physics and math Ph.D. programs, but 100,000 dollar fellowships for Chinese and Indians.

That is why they let China sell our night vision to Iran, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to supply to the insurgents to use against our troops, to kill them and maim them. They don’t talk to our troops very often. Why?

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 12:27:22 PM
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Will and MSM including ABC harm us by immigration. They have taken our job security. They prevent young adults getting married, having kids and staying married by taking their job security. They hate us because they have hurt us.

They can’t recognize our opinions as valid. They have to character assassinate us.

That is why they are attacking Webb. Webb speaks for our job security. They can’t stand to hear it. Webb is a hero. They have to degrade Webb in the same way they have degraded us.

quote Do you think there is even a chance that George Will or any of the editors or WaPo are reading these comments to see how far off base they are with average Americans? Naw. That would imply that they care what we think when it is clear that they only like what is said in their little echo chamber. WaPo and mainstream news are headed the way of the dinasaur because they refuse to listen. By Krotten1 | Dec 1, 2006 12:04:29 PM end quote.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 12:33:30 PM

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Will wants to damage the character of Webb. Will was looking for something. So was Tyrrell. They are fuax conservatives.

They have gone along with giving our high tech night vision to China and India through grad students, profs, and H1B’s. That night vision goes to Iran, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and then to the insurgents.

Will and Tyrrell know that Webb is against this. They don’t want him exposing them as not supporting our troops. This is a preemptive attack.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 6:03:09 PM

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The larger point is that Webb won’t be bought and will tell the truth. Webb can tell that Washington pundits are bought or at least rented on many issues. Or they sell themselves out on their own. These right wing pundits say they support our troops while they give our night vision to China through H1B, grad students, etc. That ends up with the insurgents who kill and maim our troops. That doesn’t save money. They take our educational opportunities in math and physics, our job security, our wages, our benefits, our careers, and then our technology ends up maiming and killing our troops. Webb is willing to tell this truth. He isn’t part of the immigration industrial complex. He isn’t part of the George Will spin complex. They are launching a pre-emptive attack. They were looking for something.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 9:00:38 PM

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When will Will ever learn, he’s what Webb has to warn us of.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 1, 2006 10:23:42 PM

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George Will “Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.”

Thursday, March 30, 2006; Page A23.

China’s Secret War
By Patrick Devenny
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 31, 2005

FBI Assistant Director Dan Szady:

“3,000 Chinese front companies that presently operate within the US. The main purpose of these pseudo-businesses, he said, is to facilitate often-illegal technology transfers to the Chinese government.”

This was in March 31, 2005, but Will in 2006 is still advocating that math and science at the Ph.D level be taught to Chinese and not Americans.

Webb has the opposite view. Will doesn’t want people who will listen to Webb to hear Webb expose Will’s continuing betrayal of our country.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 2, 2006 8:58:12 AM

Will supports quote unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills end quote.

More from Chinas Secret War By Patrick Devenny FrontPageMagazine.com | March 31, 2005. quote At Beijing�s behest, Shih shipped cutting edge night vision technology to Chinese technical research centers, such as the North China Research Institute, which are closely linked to the PRC military. … But the damage had been done. Almost single-handedly, Shih destroyed America�s advantage in night optic technology�a critical component of our continuing dominance on the battlefield. end quote

This night vision is then sold to Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc. who supply it to the insurgents to use against our troops. What about supporting our troops? Webb does by stopping this. Will doesn’t by making it happen. That’s why Will wants to discredit and silence Webb.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 2, 2006 9:38:20 AM

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Will wants to be thought of as conservative and loyal to America. Webb upstages him on that. This is why Will attacks Webb.

George Will quote Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying. end quote.

Bill Gertz Wash imes re stealth tech stolen by China quote
Details of the classified defense technology related to the B-2’s engine exhaust system and its ability to avoid detection by infrared sensors were sold to Chinese officials by former defense contractor Noshir S. Gowadia, an Indian-born citizen charged with spying in a federal indictment released by prosecutors in Hawaii. end quote.

Webb is against the H1B program that made this possible. George Will is for it. Will can’t let middle Americans hear this from Webb. Will is preemptively discrediting Webb to avoid Webb pointing out that Will’s disloyalty (and bigotry) to the middle class is responsible for this.

FBI on Gowadia

Wash Times Editorial

search “Noshir Gowadia

By OldAtlantic | Dec 2, 2006 4:09:27 PM

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quote deranged Bush hating fanaticism end quote. Bush wouldnt let the 27 pages of the 2003 Congressional report be published.

Saudi Government Provided Aid to 9/11 Hijackers, Sources Say
By Josh Meyer
The Los Angeles Times

Saturday 02 August 2003

WASHINGTON – The 27 classified pages of a congressional report about Sept. 11 depict a Saudi government that not only provided significant money and aid to the suicide hijackers but also allowed potentially hundreds of millions of dollars to flow to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups through suspect charities and other fronts, according to sources familiar with the document.

One U.S. official who has read the classified section said it describes “very direct, very specific links” between Saudi officials, two of the San Diego-based hijackers and other potential co-conspirators “that cannot be passed off as rogue, isolated or coincidental.”

Said another official: “It’s really damning. What it says is that not only Saudi entities or nationals are implicated in 9/11, but the [Saudi] government” as well.

Why doesnt let Bush let this be published now? George Will and George Bush must fear that Webb will want it published. quote moonbats. end quote.By OldAtlantic | Dec 2, 2006 6:05:46 PM

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George Will Nov 30, 2006: “… cavalier historical judgments — although is he sure that America is less egalitarian today than it was, say, 50 years ago, when only about 7 percent of American adults had college degrees? (Twenty-eight percent do today.) “

George Will in March 30, 2006: “Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America’s education system is not sufficiently supplying.”

Webb is saying there is more income inequality today. Will in Nov 2006 says we have 28 percent college degrees, showing Americans are educated. But in March 2006, Will said Americans don’t learn anything in college, i.e. math and science, and that the school system can’t teach them.

If Americans can’t do hard stuff, as Will says in March, then more degrees won’t eliminate the income inequality. Will is willing to say anything based on what point he wants to make. Americans wrote the textbooks in calculus, Apostol, Spivak, Leithholds, etc. If Americans can write the textbooks, can’t they learn from them? Webb doesn’t have this anti-American bigot attitude that Will does, that’s why Will has to discredit him.

By OldAtlantic | Dec 3, 2006 8:48:26 AM

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George Will in March 2006 quote Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated people with math, engineering, technology or science skills that Americas education system is not sufficiently supplying. end quote.

Chinese night vision has 2.4 million hits.

We invented night vision in the US but now the Chinese have it and it ends up with the insurgents killing and maiming our troops. It hurt Israel in Lebanon in 2006.

A fair question is whether through his many associations, think tanks, speaking fees, books overseas or used in US courses, etc. Will or any legal entity linked to him gets money from Chinese arms merchants? Is there merchant of death money (American GI’s deaths and maiming) that flows back to Will or any legal entity he has any link to from the know-how transfer to China by H1B’s, grad students, etc?

By OldAtlantic | Dec 3, 2006 1:51:20 PM

Is Will a pompous poseur of disloyalty? Is Will the benefactor of Chinese merchants of death? Is Will a benefactor of the Chinese network that gained our night vision know-how?

American Spectator

George Will and Tyrrell Bashing Webb:

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10696

..

Price of Oil

http://www.wtrg.com/prices.htm

Chart

http://www.wtrg.com/oil_graphs/oilprice1947.gif

From 1985 to 2003, the price of oil fluctuated between 10 and 30 dollars a barrell. Now its at 60 dollars. George Bush has helped Prince Bandar and Prince al-Turki. George Bush’s post 9-11 policies have helped Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia and Pakistan 9-11:

http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd09092003.html

by George Will

Fascism, Alive and Abroad
By George Will
Sunday, October 5, 2003

““It is not fantasy that there have been many reports that the then-head of Pakistani intelligence was responsible for $100,000 being wired to Mohamed Atta, the lead 9/11 hijacker.” [Washington Post. 5 October.’)” onmouseout=”return nd()”>Washington Post, 10/5/2003]” Timeline
On George Will

Criticism: http://www.counterpunch.org/hughes0924.html

http://www.counterpunch.org/chuckman08222003.html

on R. Emmett Tyrrell

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_brass_id.asp

Two links from American Spectator:

Tax Havens
Offshore Banking

Chinese Spying

“How China Steals U.S. Military Secrets
A spate of recent spying cases opens the lid on China’s aggressive military buildup. What’s most troubling: It is based largely on U.S. technology.”

BY Simon Cooper

August 2006
Popular Mechanics

Fact Sheet
Bureau of Political-Military Affairs
Washington, DC
July 3, 2006

“U.S. Arms Export Control Compliance and Enforcement and the UN Program of Action for Small Arms and Light Weapons (SA/LW)”

http://www.state.gov/t/pm/rls/fs/68550.htm

March 2006
SELECT ICE ARMS & STRATEGIC TECHNOLOGY INVESTIGATIONS

China’s Secret War
By Patrick Devenny
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 31, 2005
search China ” night vision” arrested


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Debunking CSIS Obaid Myth Saudi Foreign Fighters in Iraq

November 16, 2006

Nawaf Obaid is a Saudi national security and intelligence consultant based in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia“. In September 2005 he coauthored a CSIS reporting saying that only 12 percent of foreign fighters in Iraq were Saudi. The CSIS source is a report by Obaid from what seems to be a Saudi entity. Obaid’s job as a consultant to Saudi intelligence is to write reports that say Saudi Arabia is not linked to terrorism?
Lisa Myers at NBC on June 20, 2005 and Susan B. Glasser Washington Post on May 15, 2005 reported that over 50 percent of the foreign fighters in Iraq were Saudi. See bottom for more on this. This Obaid CSIS “study” is disinformation to try to get the MSM to drop its own careful reporting.

Nawaf Obaid Adjunct Fellow, Arleigh A. Burke Chair in Strategy “Nawaf Obaid is a Saudi national security and intelligence consultant based in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. He is currently the managing director of the Saudi National Security Assessment Project.”

The Obaid CSIS report is titled:

Saudi Militants in Iraq: Assessment and Kingdom’s Response
Saudi Militants in Iraq: Assessment and Kingdom’s Response -pdf
It cites the “Saudi National Security Assessment Project” as its source. Obaid is the managing director of the Saudi National Security Assessment Project.
Nawaf Obaid is a Saudi national security and intelligence consultant based in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. He is currently the managing director of the Saudi National Security Assessment Project.”

The title of the CSIS report sounds like a Saudi employee or consultant of the Saudi government wrote it.

It seems likely that Obaid’s job for Saudi intelligence as a consultant is to convince the West that Saudi Arabia is not linked to terrorism. So he writes a CSIS report under CSIS, which is linked to Carlyle group, and he cites his own Saudi National Security Assessment Project as the source of the analysis.

It in turn analyzed data from Saudi intelligence according to page 5 of the above report. It appears Obaid is the one who was paid by Saudi intelligence to do this data analysis of Saudi intelligence non-public data. The result according to Obaid is that only 12 percent of foreign fighters in Iraq are Saudi.

Saudi National Security Assessment Project

http://www.ncusar.org/profile.html

CSIS Publications 2005.

posted September 23, 2005 at 10:30 a.m.

search Saudi foreign fighters Iraq

search myth Saudi foreign fighters Iraq

The ‘myth’ of Iraq’s foreign fighters
Report by US think tank says only ‘4 to 10’ percent of insurgents are foreigners.
By Tom Regan | csmonitor.com

Report attacks ‘myth’ of foreign fighters

Brian Whitaker and Ewen MacAskill
Friday September 23, 2005
The Guardian

http://www.csis.org/about/trustees/

Frank Carlucci

“Mr. Carlucci has been a managing director of the Carlyle Group since 1989, chairman since 1993, and chairman emeritus since 2003.” “Mr. Carlucci graduated from Princeton University and attended Harvard Business School.”

Saudi intelligence reports sent through Saudi entities to the CSIS are like “salted peanuts” to the Washington establishment. The 9-11 Commission of Kean Hamilton that ignored the 2003 Congressional report finding links between the Saudis and the 9-11 hijacker was one big jar of “salted peanuts”.

Boston Globe article including Obaid research before Sep 2005 report.

“However, interrogations of nearly 300 Saudis captured while trying to sneak into Iraq and case studies of more than three dozen others who blew themselves up in suicide attacks show that most were heeding the calls from clerics and activists to drive infidels out of Arab land, according to a study by Saudi investigator Nawaf Obaid, a US-trained analyst who was commissioned by the Saudi government and given access to Saudi officials and intelligence.”

== News Reports that foreign fighters are Saudi
“NBC 55 percent Foreign Fighers Saudi in Iraq”
“By Lisa Myers & the NBC Investigative Unit Updated: 8:39 p.m. ET June 20, 2005 Who are the foreign fighters in Iraq? An NBC News analysis finds 55 percent hail from Saudi Arabia Lisa Myers Senior investigative correspondent

• Profile An NBC News analysis of hundreds of foreign fighters who died in Iraq over the last two years reveals that a majority came from the same country as most of the 9/11 hijackers — Saudi Arabia.””

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8293410/

“By far the nationality that comes up over and over again is Saudi Arabia,” says Evan Kohlmann, an NBC News terrorism expert.

The NBC News analysis of Web site postings found that 55 percent of foreign insurgents came from Saudi Arabia, 13 percent from Syria, 9 percent from North Africa and 3 percent from Europe.

The U.S. military also says Saudi Arabia and Syria are the leading sources of insurgents. An Army official provided a list of the top 10 countries to NBC News but would not release the numbers of foreign fighters from each. The top 10, alphabetically, are: Egypt, Iran, Jordan, Lebanon, the Palestinian territories, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia and Yemen.”

If the army had evidence that Saudis were 12 percent, they would publish it. That they don’t is consistent with “Saudi” Arabia heading the list.



Commentary on Lisa Myers NBC Report

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/006762.php

“‘Martyrs’ In Iraq Mostly Saudis
Web Sites Track Suicide Bombings

By Susan B. Glasser
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, May 15, 2005; Page A01

“In a paper published in March, Reuven Paz, an Israeli expert on terrorism, analyzed the lists of jihadi dead. He found 154 Arabs killed over the previous six months in Iraq, 61 percent of them from Saudi Arabia, with Syrians, Iraqis and Kuwaitis together accounting for another 25 percent. He also found that 70 percent of the suicide bombers named by the Web sites were Saudi.”

The apparent predominance of Saudi fighters on the Internet lists has caused an alarmed reaction by Saudi officials, who fear a backlash from the Americans at the same time they are trying to convince the United States that they are working as allies against terrorism. While Saudi officials do not deny that Saudi citizens have taken up arms against the United States in Iraq, they argue that the long lists of Saudi dead could be a disinformation tactic or simply a recruiting tool used to lure Arab youth to Iraq by convincing them of how many others have already won a place in Paradise.

“Are there Saudis in Iraq? Yes, we know that. Absolutely. But are there the numbers being bandied about? We really don’t believe so,” said a Saudi official who spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of the subject.

“The Internet sites try to recruit people — it’s the best recruitment tool,” said Saudi security analyst Nawaf Obaid. Obaid, who has worked closely with the government, said he found 47 cases of Saudis who were dead or injured reported in the kingdom’s newspapers, far lower than Internet totals, and had concluded the overall number of Saudi jihadis in Iraq was in the hundreds. “But young guys, they read [on the Internet] we have thousands of Saudis there and think, ‘I have to go, too.’ ”

Evan F. Kohlmann, a researcher who monitors Islamic extremist Web sites, has compiled a list of more than 235 names of Iraqi dead gleaned from the Internet since last summer, with more than 50 percent on his tally from Saudi Arabia as well. In some cases, he found photos or videos of dead foreign fighters posted online. One Kuwaiti policeman who died was featured in a Zarqawi propaganda video called “Winds of Change,” while the bloodied corpse of a Turkish al Qaeda disciple, Habib Aktas, was shown on another video celebrating his “martyrdom.””

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/4329495.html

Saudis one of top 5 captured by coalition forces.

This article is hypotheses, speculation, or opinion. All other disclaimers apply.

Panel May Have Few Good Options to Offer

November 12, 2006

Panel May Have Few Good Options to Offer
Bipartisan Group’s Plan Expected in Dec.

By Michael Abramowitz and Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, November 12, 2006; Page A01
“After meeting with President Bush tomorrow, a panel of prestigious Americans will begin deliberations to chart a new course on Iraq, with the goal of stabilizing the country with a different U.S. strategy and possibly the withdrawal of troops.”

Baker Hamilton Iraq Study Group

Comments.

Many good comments above. Basically, the study group is pretending we are at war with Iraq and nothing else. This is the Religion of Peace PC. It means we can’t talk about anything.

Saudi Arabia, Iran and Pakistan are free to fund insurgencies against us in Iraq and Afghanistan and to support genocide in Africa, and we can’t talk about it under the MSM Democrat Republican Cone of PC Silence. Of course, the original cone of silence was where you could talk truth without being afraid. Problem is that only happens on the Internet. We have to go to the source to win.

If in WWII we had stopped in N. Africa to nation build, we would have lost. We didn’t have a Powell to spout KGB propaganda of 3rd world liberation and reparations. Instead we just invaded Sicily, Italy, France and Germany. We didn’t nation build along the way.

Does anyone even know when the last US troops left North Africa? No. Everyone forgot N. Africa and we went on to win.

In this war, we nation build the first little countries we get to instead of island hop to Iran, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia the countries that are the real source of what’s against us. The time to fight wars is when we lose 200 killed.

The Saudis are the source of the foreign fighters and money in Iraq. Go the source countries against us, Iran, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

We will fight forever until we go against those 3. We have to put them all out at the same time, its like John Wayne’s oil fire fighting movie, Hellfighters (1968).

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Bakers realism only extends to the next check from Saudi Arabia.

By OldAtlantic | Nov 12, 2006 3:40:56 PM=

Lee Hamilton has already said that Pakistan and Saudi Arabia had no link to 9-11 that he could find. Evidently he couldn’t find the 27 pages of the 2003 Congressional report linking Saudi Arabia to the financing of 9-11.

He also can’t find the web site of the Complete 9-11 Timeline. Nor can he find Christina Lamb’s London Times article, nor it appears anything else that might interdict the money flow from Saudi Arabia to big Washington law firms like Baker and Botts.

Now Baker and Botts has a James A. Baker IV, head of the Washington office. If he is young enough to collect Saudi money for 40 years, then Baker III isn’t going to recommend any action against Saudi Arabia. Why don’t we send the partners of Baker and Botts to fight in Iraq against Saudi foreign fighters funded and supplied from Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Send the Washington Office of Baker and Botts to Afghanistan. How long until they recommend we take on Pakistan after that happens? A draft of their kids might wake up Washington to who is funding the killing of our kids.

James A. Baker IV

search “James A Baker IV

Practice Areas

 

“Jamie Baker is partner in charge of the Washington office of Baker Botts, where his practice concentrates on international commercial and trade-related matters and transactions. His transactional practice relates principally to the energy and natural resources, telecommunications, and technology sectors of the economy, and involves contract negotiation and documentation of investment vehicles, business combinations, divestitures and operations, and various forms of corporate and project finance.”

“Mr. Baker’s recent representations have included transactions in the Arabian peninsula and North Africa, Central and East Asia, Europe, and Russia, many of which have involved negotiations between private concerns and government agencies or state enterprises.”
“From 1982 to 1985, prior to joining Baker Botts, Mr. Baker served as counsel to the U.S. Senate Majority Leader. He is currently co-chairman of the U.S.-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce, and he serves on the advisory board of Milestone Merchant Partners, a Washington-based investment firm.”

  • Azerbaijan International Operating Company (AIOC) (1997-1999) – development of the BTC Pipeline transporting oil from the Caspian Sea at Baku to the Mediterranean port of Ceyhan, Turkey”
  • James A. Baker III at Baker and Botts

    Practice Areas

     

    “Mr. Baker is presently a senior partner at Baker Botts. He is honorary chairman of the James A. Baker III Institute for Public Policy at Rice University and serves on the board of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute. From 1997 to 2004, Mr. Baker served as the personal envoy of United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan in seeking a political solution to the conflict over Western Sahara. In 2003, Mr. Baker was appointed Special Presidential Envoy for President George W. Bush on the issue of Iraqi debt.”
    Bush Pioneers and Jack Abramoff

    Defunct Baku office link of Baker and Botts
    search “James A Baker III” Baker Botts

    At the Nation Its a Baker Botts World -stub public and rest subscription and Naomi Klein: James Baker Double Life -available to public.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3067906/

    Baker Botts defending lawsuit against Saudis for 9-11. Damaging admissions according to MSNBC.

    “But in laying out their arguments, Sultan’s U.S. lawyers also presented highly detailed new evidence of the Saudi government’s role in funneling millions of dollars to a web of Islamic charities that are widely suspected by U.S. officials of covertly financing the operations of Al Qaeda and other international terrorist groups.”

    ==Saudi Arabia 9-11

    http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/080303A.shtml

    Saudi Government Provided Aid to 9/11 Hijackers, Sources Say
    By Josh Meyer
    The Los Angeles Times

    Saturday 02 August 2003

    WASHINGTON – The 27 classified pages of a congressional report about Sept. 11 depict a Saudi government that not only provided significant money and aid to the suicide hijackers but also allowed potentially hundreds of millions of dollars to flow to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups through suspect charities and other fronts, according to sources familiar with the document.

    One U.S. official who has read the classified section said it describes “very direct, very specific links” between Saudi officials, two of the San Diego-based hijackers and other potential co-conspirators “that cannot be passed off as rogue, isolated or coincidental.”

    Said another official: “It’s really damning. What it says is that not only Saudi entities or nationals are implicated in 9/11, but the [Saudi] government” as well.”

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    ” U.S. Officials: Iraqi Security Could Be Ready in 12-18 Months”

    October 24, 2006

    “Ambassador Says Iraqi Political Leaders ‘Must Step Up'”

    By Debbi Wilgoren and Howard Schneider
    Washington Post Staff Writers
    Tuesday, October 24, 2006; 11:18 AM

    “Top U.S. officials in Iraq today predicted that Iraqi security forces could be largely self-sufficient within 12 to 18 months and said the Iraqi government is building a timetable for disarming militias, quieting insurgents and solving ongoing struggles for economic and political power.”

    WaPo Comments.

    Kissinger got out another old memo, “Light at the end of the Tunnel Memo”? Kissinger is spending time at the White House, teaching Bush old tricks. Those old Kissinger memos are like salted peanuts at the White House. Too bad Kissinger doesn’t tell Bush to just roll over Iran, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia while it only costs us 200 killed in Battle Phase deaths v. 50,000 killed in Vietnam. Instead, Bush and Kissinger sit around like an SNL skit about the Oval Office, asking how can we waste America’s chance to win the big war by getting bogged down in fighting Afghanistan and Iraq while letting Pakistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia fund the wars against while we could win easy.

    Kissinger should be telling Bush he’s fighting the wrong enemy in the wrong place. When you lose 200 killed in the battle phase, you should take the war to the source right away. We called it Island Hopping in WWII in the Pacific. We were going for Japan and Germany, not trying to get bogged down in peripheral places for ever.

    While Kissinger way busy losing Vietnam he was also busy giving Russia more throw weight and big missiles in SALT I. Kissinger was also letting US grad schools be taken over by foreign grad students and has never spoke out about our know-how being given away. That’s why China is so powerful now and getting more so.

    A Q Khan got his Ph.D. in the 1970’s in Belgium and stole centrifuge technology from a job there. We have been giving away our technology and know how and our people can’t get jobs. Kissinger is part of that give away. Bush is doing that now.

    ===2nd Comment

    jhindson | Oct 24, 2006 12:59:23 PM quote The war has gone on longer than WWII and all the trends are bad. end quote.

    WWII was over quickly because FDR decided to invade the homelands of what attacked us, Japan and Germany as fast as possible, and then he did it.

    Bush decided to get bogged down in Afghanistan and Iraq instead of going after Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia and UAE.

    When you don’t go to the source, you can’t win. They understood that in WWII.

    Bush just doesn’t get it. If FDR could have knocked over a country at 200 killed in battle phase, he wouldn’t have sat down and occupied the most peripheal points he could find. But Bush does and Kissinger eggs him on.

    == Comment

    The US had 10 million men under arms by the end of WWII with a much smaller population.  In the last 2 years of the Bush administration, we could restore our army to the 1991 level, and invade Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and North Korea.  We could win in 2 years.  That’s what they did in WWII.  They were attacked at Pearl Harbor, and they just won.  You don’t need the permission of Blair or the UN after you are attacked.  You can just go win.  We can win in the next 2 years, or we can sit and bleed occupying Iraq and Afghanistan.  Only someone brain dead would choose to lose when they could win after they were attacked.  Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, UAE, and North Korea are tied to enough things over the last 30 years that we have evidence enough.  At this point in history, military force can win.  At the right points in history, armies have changed history and wars have changed history.  We can win now or sit back, bleed at the peripheries and let immigration defeat us.  Victory at all costs.  Just win baby.  Americans want a leader who will invade the homelands of the countries that attacked us not sit and bleed like a fool and invent stupid phrases like stay the course.  Did FDR say stay the course? No, he said Unconditional Surrender.  By the farthest point from Berlin and Tokyo? No.  He took the war to the homelands of what attacked us.  He didn’t call Fascism the religion of peace.  He didn’t set up Fascist Republics in countries he invaded.  He didn’t uphold Fascist Law and Courts, he abolished them, sent the judges packing and imposed our values.  That was popular with our people.  If you have the American people behind you, that’s all you need to win right now.  Soon, it will be too late.

    We can win it all, now.  Just arm up and do it.  We don’t need to go to the UN or sit around holding Blair’s hand.  We don’t need to waste time with Europe or China talking to our enemies telling them to hold out.  We don’t have to listen to Europe, China and Russia say don’t fight now when you lose 200 killed per war, wait until its 50,000 or 500,000 in a nuclear war.  Just win now.  Roll over the whole expanded axis, Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, UAE and North Korea.  Just do it.

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