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Who won CNN Youtube Republican Debate?

November 29, 2007

The performance of the candidates in order, might be

  1. Fred Thompson
  2. Tom Tancredo
  3. Duncan Hunter
  4. Ron Paul
  5. Mitt Romney
  6. John McCain
  7. Mike Huckabee
  8. Rudi Giuliani

There are two groups. The first group are loyal to Americans as people and will fight for them. That group of 4 won because they had things to say to help Americans. Those 4 performed as follows in terms of winning the debate.

  1. Fred Thompson Had things to say. Didn’t surrender on the Confederate Flag. Thompson is willing to say what he thinks on social security, entitlements, immigration. etc. Fred had the most to offer on many subjects that was actually for the benefit of Americans. It was also at a good level of using specifics when needed to bolster an explicit set of policies to help Americans. None of the others used specific facts to support policies to help Americans as effectively as Fred.
  2. Tom Tancredo. Was more relaxed and confident than usual. He was funny and self-deprecating at times and comfortable in his skin.
  3. Duncan Hunter. Strong confident, pro-American.
  4. Ron Paul. Independent, didn’t waffle in face of some tough questions.

The second 4 had nothing positive to offer to Americans.

  1. Mitt Romney. Empty suit. Romney has nothing to offer to make our lives better. Romney made 250 million in the 1980’s and 1990’s by ending good paying jobs. Men’s median wages are lower than in 1973. Women’s median wages are what men’s were in 1960. See p60-233.pdf. Romney made money for himself by keeping them lower.
  2. John McCain. Was somewhat defensive and shrill.
  3. Mike Huckabee. He really made it clear at length that he has no loyalty to Americans, that Americans in general are closet racists and that he really despises those who think he owes them or any American citizens loyalty. For Huckabee, hating Americans opposed to immigration is a moral passion. He reacts with anger to any proposal to be loyal to Americans when their interests conflict with immigrants, which is often. Huckabee thinks that conflict is often and thinks Americans who want Huckabee to take their side are racist.
  4. Rudi Giuliani. He was defensive through the evening. Like the others in the anti-American 4, he makes it clear he has contempt and no loyalty for Americans where it counts, in wages and in keeping out those who come here and change our country, which is for the worse.

The top 4 were all comfortable in their skins. The bottom 4 were all uncomfortable. The top 4 were for the people. The bottom 4 had covert or even overt hostility to the people.

That included Romney on the Confederate Flag. Romney made clear his contempt and you could see his mind working to use this as a triangulation issue to advance himself, but he might cost himself votes in South Carolina where Fred Thompson is battling it out with Romney, both are at the top in South Carolina, which is the third event behind Iowa and New Hampshire.

Huckabee on tuition breaks for illegals came out with a passion against anyone who would deny anything to children of illegals or illegals themselves. For Huckabee this is a moral issue direct from God. Anyone who is opposed to Huckabee on helping illegals is not a good Christian or person and is evil. He made that clear.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/28/debate.transcript/index.html

==Hypothesis on why bottom 4 came off as against us

We discuss here a hypothesis of why the second 4 had nothing to offer Americans on good paying jobs, job security, stopping immigration, etc.

The second 4 think, or act as if, its racist to be loyal to Americans. These 4 are intentionally and affirmatively “racist” against Americans. They advocate good job destruction for Americans and their children. They advocate ending the safety of American communities and making them unsafe at night or even by day by immigration by those who have manifested animosity against Americans, especially white Christian or secular Americans.

The bottom 4 are immigration supremacists. Because immigration supremacy is built on calling whites racist to silence them its necessary to point out the anti-whiteness of this strategy and these candidates. Whites are the majority so a strategy to keep wages below the 1973 level for men for all groups has to be built on cowing whites into silence.

Their strategy is that whites who ask for good wages will be called racist when they propose the only real solution, ending all legal immigration. So we need to discuss at length the anti-white racism in the immigration supremacist position of the bottom 4 candidates.

The candidates who imply loyalty to Americans is racist are really implying that whites are racists who deserve nothing. This is the whites deserve to lose their good jobs, aren’t due anything for building the country or fighting the wars, and should be condemned if they say they are.

These candidates intentionally pursue big immigration strategies designed to make whites a minority, take away their good jobs and label all whites as racists. They are doing this to everyone else here too. Since big immigration as a strategy relies on labeling whites as racist to succeed, its necessary to point out the anti-whiteness of the candidates pursuing this approach. The bottom 4 are triangulating with the rest of whites as racist.

Although the 4 didn’t express these ideas explicitly, their behavior at the debate, and their past record are consistent with this hypothesis. They don’t have anything to offer to make American lives better. The top 4 did. The top 4 are immigration restrictionists in one way or another. The bottom 4 are immigration supremacists.

==Questions that should be asked.

A question that should have been asked, is: Do you think its racist to want to stop all legal immigration, and send all the illegals home?

To Huckabee, do you think Tom Tancredo’s statements or positions on immigration are racist?

Do you think America should remain a majority white country? What would you do to keep it that way? (This should be asked of Democrats as well.)

Are those who say America should stay majority white racist?

For Dems and Huckabee:

Do blacks have lower IQ than whites?

Is it partly genetic?

Is it racist to say so?

Does it matter?

Do “racial differences exist” between blacks and whites in crime?

For Hispanics?

Is it racist to say “racial differences exist” between blacks and whites in crime? Hispanics?

Does that imply we should not have immigration by blacks or Hispanics?

Is it racist to say so?

Is there regression towards the mean in IQ and behavior?

Does this mean we should not have immigration from the third world, even higher IQ or better behaved individuals?

Is it racist to say so?

Is it white supremacist to say so?

Is the Confederate Flag a symbol of white nationalism or white supremacism?

Do you consider Pat Buchanan, Tom Tancredo, Virgil Goode, Trent Lott, or George Allen to have said anything that is white nationalist or white supremacist?

Do you believe America will become a white minority country?

Do you think its racist to say it should not?

Do you think doing anything to stop America becoming white minority is white nationalism or white supremacism?

Are you an immigration supremacist in the sense that you believe America will become minority white and that you call anyone who says to stop that a racist or white nationalist or white supremacist?

Is anyone who says America should stay majority white a white nationalist?

A white supremacist?

Do you believe every American either has to

  1. Support or accept minority status for whites, or
  2. Support keeping America majority white and thereby be a white nationalist or white supremacist?

Is ignoring the issue and letting it happen, America becoming minority white, the right thing to do?

Is anyone who talks about it as negative, a racist, white nationalist or white supremacist?

If saying America should be white majority is white nationalism, and saying it should be white minority is immigration nationalism, which are you?

Does your answer change if its white supremacist v. immigration supremacist as the labels?

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Draft Left Defines White Nationalism

November 24, 2007

The left approximately follows the following escalating levels of attack on whites. This doesn’t apply in all cases, but illustrates the phenomenon. We can formulate the following

Leftist Escalation of Attack Words Hypothesis

  1. Bigot or Nativist: Under leftism, any white who speaks up or about what is happening to whites, without using the word white.
  2. White nationalist. When the white uses the word white and just reports or repeats a fact incident, the left calls them white nationalist.
  3. White supremacist. If they say it should stop, the left calls them a white supremacist. If they propose specific action to make it stop, the likelihood of being called white supremacist goes up.

An example is the attacks on Brussels Journal, Vlaams Belang and Paul Belien by some at LGF. They were all attacked as white supremacist for not just saying what was happening to whites in Europe, but that what is happening to whites in Europe should stop.

Lets analyze the above paragraph. LGF reports on what is happening in Europe and condemns it. What is happening to whom? Its being done to white Europeans. But to say that is beyond the pale to LGF. Why does LGF condemn what is done to whites but that to say the victims are white Europeans they condemn? If they condemn what is done to whites, are they not saying it should stop being done to whites? But don’t want to say that explicitly?

Why do they say that stopping what is being done to whites in Europe is white supremacy? Filip Dewinter said he didn’t want his daughter to marry a black, and that is called white supremacism by his critics. But isn’t it rational?

As Steve Sailer documents, regression towards the mean in IQ means that children of black parents regress towards the mean of black IQ which is 85, 15 points below the white average. Thus a child of a white and black parent will, from this effect, tend to have a lower IQ than the white average. LGF condemned Filip Dewinter for wanting to avoid that. Why shouldn’t he?

Isn’t it irrational to want a lower IQ for your grand child? It would seem the definition of rationality would imply preferring high IQ to low IQ. Since marrying a black implies regression towards the black mean of lower IQ of 85 as Steve Sailer points out, this is irrational. Note that the black IQ is 85 in the U.S. In Africa its much lower. Europe has immigration of blacks primarily from Africa, so the black IQ there might be as low as 70. There has also been much less time for mixing there than in the U.S.

Being white and knowing the truth about statistics and data sources already makes you a covert white nationalist in the mind of the left. If you say the word white in relation to the victims identity, the left goes crazy. Even though they publicize hate crimes with black victims, if a white talks about white victims they are a racist to white nationalist to white supremacist. Saying the victims were white as a stand alone sentence is considered racist by many.

==Summary

If you tell what happens to whites in an incident or generally, the left calls you a bigot or nativist. If you use the word white while doing so, they call you a white nationalist. If you say it should stop, they call you a white supremacist. Listen to them. Observe them. This is real not just a joke. They are deadly serious.

==This is real

The EU has made it at least a draft policy to eliminate the white race in Europe and replace it with a mixed race.

http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2007/11/wealth-of-mankind.html

VA quotes the following

EU Proposal for Mestizo Europe

BRUSSELS, July 27 (Reuters) – The European Union should admit up to 75 million immigrants over the next 50 years and be prepared to become a racially hybrid society, according to a paper to be discussed at an EU ministerial meeting on Friday.”

That’s a real government saying this as policy. They are doing it. They are doing it after the attacks in Malmo, London, Madrid, the car burnings in France, etc. After all this, they make it policy to eliminate the white race. This is the real thing. Its happening now. They are open about it.

The EU has taken ownership of London, Madrid, Malmo, the car burnings in France. The EU has said these are their policies. Listen, observe, believe. This is what is happening now. They say so.

==Following was after reading following discussion

http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2007/11/america-people-of-no-race-no-nation.html

So is there something wrong with the term ‘white nationalist‘? I would say only the fact that it is necessary to prefix the term with the word ‘white.’ Old-style American nationalism (which undeniably many people find a negative word, preferring the term ‘patriotism’ which they find more positive) implies an identification with the traditional Anglo-Saxon culture of America.

Tanstaafl

http://age-of-treason.blogspot.com/2007/11/white-nationalism-and-anti-semitism.html

MM identifies Lawrence Auster, Vanishing American, John Savage, New Sisyphus, Age of Treason, and Old Atlantic Lighthouse as white-nationalist blogs.

Mencius Moldbug

http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/11/why-i-am-not-white-nationalist.html

I am not a white nationalist, but I do read white-nationalist blogs, and I’m not afraid to link to them. The undisputed champion in this department is Larry Auster. I am also fond of Vanishing American, John Savage, New Sisyphus, Age of Treason, and Old Atlantic Lighthouse. The two central organs of intellectual white nationalism in the US are American Renaissance and VDare. If there is a European equivalent, it is probably Brussels Journal. On all these sites, you’ll find thoughtful, well-written commentary that will expand your mind. I’m not sure all these writers would accept the white-nationalist label – this is just my own description.

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This is rather academic. Another approach is to say that white nationalism is what people who call themselves “white nationalists” believe. John Savage has a good link summary, featuring a friendly debate between Steve Sailer (who is perhaps best classified as a Sailerist, a label I’m not at all afraid to stick on my shirt) and the editor of American Renaissance, Jared Taylor.

Perhaps the best summary of the white nationalist case I’ve seen, however, is this essay by the Norwegian blogger known only as Fjordman.

==Old Atlantic and White Nationalism?

OA like Vdare does not adopt the term white nationalism. This is a term for discussion. I, like everyone else, am trying to sort this out in my mind as to where we are, where we are going, and what will happen. I appreciate the writing of Vanishing American and the others listed above on this subject.

I do support almost zero immigration, not 250,000 per year. Under the Wright Island Theorem and Immigration Vanishing Survival Theorem that inflow would still result in genetic replacement and zero survival factors for genes, even allowing for some outflow. We are not at a point of circulation.

White nationalism as an idea I consider to be a positive one, not a negative one. I see nothing wrong with those who adopt the term, simply from doing so.

I hope the break up of the U.S. can be avoided. I don’t want to see an Islamic Europe that has British and French nuclear weapons and wants to attack New York City because of the people who live there, or other American cities. This does require people in the West to help each other survive liberalism.

The people of the West do have to wake up. It does need to keep white majorities. There is a reality outside liberal TV shows that can’t be ignored. We do have to say we want to keep white majorities to actually keep them.

Those who want to stop terrorist immigration need to recognize that to do that you have to stop all legal Muslim immigration. Under liberalism, the only way to stop all legal Muslim immigration is to stop all legal immigration.

People have to see an upside to their own efforts. Fighting in wars, being called bigot and racist to stop immigration are not something people will do so that liberals can stay on top calling them names. They will do it for the survival of their own, not just for some abstract principle the writers of All in the Family cherish. The purpose of life is not to avoid being called names by liberals. That is not the purpose of the universe either.

==Mexican and Muslim Nationalism are the real thing

http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2007/11/advice-from-legal-immigrant.html

http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2007/11/preview-of-things-to-come.html

http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=5148

==Can we test the hypothesis?

Because nativist and bigot are used almost as standard terms for anyone the left disagrees with on immigration, we would expect these terms to dominate the terms “white nationalist” and “white supremacist”. So in looking at results we have to adjust for that.

Note the initial work didn’t look at racist in the searches, but that has been added in some cases. This seems to be the word of choice still. One can consider the hypothesis that the left just uses whatever word is in vogue, and they copy each other and the words they use are not used for their meaning but just because it makes them feel good to say them.

SPLC searches were not done initially but added after the strange Ron Paul results were found.

==Amren

Results 1100 of about 67,000 for amren racist.

amren nativist

Results 146 of 46 for amren nativist.

amren “white nationalist”

Results 1100 of about 23,200 for amren “white nationalist.

amren “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 19,900 for amren “white supremacist.

==Jared Taylor

Results 1100 of about 35,200 for “Jared Taylorracist.

“Jared Taylor” nativist

Results 1100 of about 643 for “Jared Taylornativist.

“Jared Taylor” “white nationalist”

Results 1100 of about 11,200 for “Jared Taylor” “white nationalist

“Jared Taylor” “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 11,200 for “Jared Taylor” “white supremacist.

==Lawrence Auster

Results 1100 of about 28,500 for Lawrence Auster” racist.

“Lawrence Auster” nativist

Results 1100 of about 677 for Lawrence Auster” nativist.

“Lawrence Auster” “white nationalist”

Results 163 of 63 for Lawrence Auster” “white nationalist.

“Lawrence Auster” “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 807 for Lawrence Auster” “white supremacist.

==James Watson

“James Watson” bigot

Results 1100 of about 22,600 for James Watsonbigot.

Results 1100 of about 152,000 for James Watsonracist.

“James Watson” “white nationalist”

Results 162 of 62 for James Watson” “white nationalist.

“James Watson” “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 820 for James Watson” “white supremacist.

==Peter Brimelow

Results 1100 of about 27,500 for Peter Brimelow” racist.

Results 1100 of about 9,590 for Peter Brimelow” nativist.

“Peter Brimelow “white supremacist”
Results 1100 of about 995 for Peter Brimelow “white supremacist.

A quote mark was left out after Brimelow, so we can repeat this:

“Peter Brimelow” “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 611 for Peter Brimelow” “white supremacist.
Results 1100 of about 41,000 for Peter Brimelow “white nationalist.

==Steve Sailer

Results 1100 of about 108,000 for “Steve Sailer” racist.

Results 1100 of about 25,800 for “Steve Sailer” bigot

Results 1100 of about 745 for “Steve Sailer” “white nationalist.

Results 1100 of about 821 for “Steve Sailer” “white supremacist.

==Virgil Goode

Virgil Goode said stop Muslim immigration. He said nothing about whites or anything about race. But Goode did say stop something. What was he called?

Results 1100 of about 41,800 for Virgil Goode” racist

bigot “Virgil Goode”

Results 1100 of about 20,400 for bigotVirgil Goode”

Islamophobe “Virgil Goode”

Results 1100 of about 972 for Islamophobe “Virgil Goode”.
“white supremacist” “Virgil Goode”

Results 1100 of about 661 for white supremacist” “Virgil Goode”.

“white nationalist” “Virgil Goode”

Results 119 of 19 for white nationalist” “Virgil Goode”.

==Senator George Allen

Results 1100 of about 168,000 for George Allenracist.

Results 1100 of about 71,000 for George Allenbigot.

Results 1100 of about 15,100 for George Allennativist

Results 1100 of about 606 for George Allen” “White nationalist.

Results 1100 of about 15,300 for George Allen” “White supremacist.

George Allen just used the word macaca.

Results 1100 of about 164,000 for George Allen” macaca.

Results 1100 of about 783 for George Allen” macaca “white supremacist

The hate against George Allen and Virgil Goode was a national obsession. The instant association of both with white supremacism and white nationalism is extreme. The searches could be repeated with -ism instead of -ist. Both Allen and Goode are from Virginia.

==Vdare

Results 1100 of about 157,000 for Vdare racist.

Vdare nativist

Results 1100 of about 9,320 for Vdare nativist.

“white nationalist” Vdare

Results 1100 of about 10,100 for white nationalist” Vdare.

Vdare “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 12,300 for Vdare “white supremacist.

Vdare has used the word white, said what is happening to whites using the word white, said to stop it and proposed specific action. They are called white supremacist more than white nationalist.

==Lou Dobbs

Results 1100 of about 379,000 for “Lou Dobbs” racist.

nativist “Lou Dobbs”

Results 1100 of about 52,300 for nativist “Lou Dobbs”.

Lou Dobbs does not describe his victims as white and does not propose remedies for preserving whites qua whites. He emphasizes amnesty but also discusses guest worker programs as harming Americans, independent of being white or not.

“Lou Dobbs” “white nationalist”

Results 1100 of about 734 for “Lou Dobbs” “white nationalist.

“Lou Dobbs” “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 32,200 for “Lou Dobbs” “white supremacist.

“Lou Dobbs” Nazi site:splcenter.org

Results 133 of 33 from splcenter.org for “Lou Dobbs” Nazi.

Results 124 of 24 from splcenter.org for “Lou Dobbs” “white supremacist”.
Some results talk about guests on Lou Dobbs show. But it seems that we are seeing the emergence of support for a hypothesis that they don’t stop at calling someone white nationalist but move right up to white supremacist.

== Pat Buchanan

Results 1100 of about 262,000 for Pat Buchananracist.

“Pat Buchanan” nativist

Results 1100 of about 42,500 for Pat Buchanannativist

“Pat Buchanan” “white nationalist”

Results 1100 of about 10,400 for Pat Buchanan” “white nationalist.

“Pat Buchanan” “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 24,400 for Pat Buchanan” “white supremacist.

Results 154 of 54 from splcenter.org for “Pat Buchanan” Nazi.

Results 135 of 35 from splcenter.org for “Pat Buchanan” “white supremacist”.
Pat Buchanan has explicitly talked about what is happening to whites and the West and said it should stop. The results in his case are that he is called white supremacist more than white nationalist. So this supports the hypothesis.

==Tom Tancredo

Results 1100 of about 530,000 for Tom Tancredo” racist.

Results 1100 of about 83,900 for Tom Tancredo” bigot.

Results 1100 of about 45,800 for Tom Tancredo” nativist.

Results 1100 of about 808 for Tom Tancredo” “white nationalist.

“Tom Tancredo” “white supremacist”

Results 1100 of about 33,300 for Tom Tancredo” “white supremacist.

Results 113 of 13 from splcenter.org for “Tom Tancredo” “white supremacist”.

Results 139 of 39 from splcenter.org for “Tom Tancredo” Nazi.

==Brussels Journal

Results 1100 of about 182,000 for Brussels Journalracist.

Results 1100 of about 30,300 for Brussels Journalbigot.

Results 1100 of about 801 for Brussels Journalnativist.

Results 1100 of about 21,400 for Brussels Journalindigenous.

Results 175 of 75 for Brussels Journal” “white nationalist.

Results 1100 of about 793 for Brussels Journal” “white supremacist.

We see that there is almost immediate escalation from white nationalist to white supremacist.

==BNP

Results 1100 of about 702,000 for BNP racist.

Results 1100 of about 17,800 for BNP “white supremacist.

Results 1100 of about 24,300 for BNP “white nationalist.

Results 129 of 29 for BNP Ballerinawhite nationalist

Results 162 of 62 for BNP Ballerinawhite supremacist.

==Ron Paul

Results 1100 of about 234,000 for “Ron Paulbigot.

Results 1100 of about 37,600 for “Ron Paulnativist.

Results 1100 of about 1,550,000 for “Ron Paulracist.

“Ron Paul” “white nationalist”

Results 1100 of about 51,100 for “Ron Paul” “white nationalist.

Results 1100 of about 58,200 for “Ron Paul” “white supremacist.

How did Ron Paul get labeled with over 1 million hits on racist and over 50,000 hits on White Supremacist? He is not even a particularly strong advocate for immigration restriction relative to the other Republican candidates. He is against amnesty, but has supported H-1B and legal immigration. The most he has done is be against anchor baby.

Hypothesis: The enormous number of hits on Ron Paul shows its being white and not part of the establishment that gets you labeled. It doesn’t matter what you really say or do. White, non-“mainstream” and you are racist and white supremacist to them.

“Ron Paul” site:splcenter.org

One of the hits:

Extremist Group Announces Speech by Congressman | Hatewatch

Ron Paul is not necessarily a racist for one speech with this group, The SPLC should come to a Ron Paul New York meetup group meeting or listen to those
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/10/08/extremist-group-announces-speech-by-congressman/
Hypothesis: This is smear by association. Ron Paul will talk to anyone as a person and not call them names but say what he thinks without telling them what they want to hear. This makes him racist and “white supremacist”. The failure to condemn those he should condemn, and treating everyone with civility and talking to them on an equal level using logic and facts is all that it takes to be named racist and white supremacist.

“Ron Paul” Nazi site:splcenter.org

Results 14 of 4 from splcenter.org for “Ron Paul” Nazi.

==Christian

Results 1100 of about 627 from splcenter.org for Christian Nazi.

SPLCenter.org: Christian Identity

Christian Meeting Turns Into Attack on Gays. BRIEFS. NSM Attack Sparks Rift · KKK Suit Ends With Award to Victims · Neo-Nazi Financier Arrested
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=632 – 40k – CachedSimilar pages
Christian Nazi site:splcenter.org

Results 1100 of about 306 from splcenter.org for Christian “white supremacist”.

SPLCenter.org: The Big Lie

Murder victim Channon Christian was the focus of a rally by white parroting the key white supremacist talking point, characterizing the Christian-Newsom
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=819 – 51k – CachedSimilar pages

One of the hypotheses was that just to know the truth and speak the truth would get you attacked.

==Jesus

Results 161 of 61 from splcenter.org for Jesus “white supremacist”.

Results 183 of 83 from splcenter.org for Jesus Nazi.

==God

God Nazi site:splcenter.org

Results 1100 of about 143 from splcenter.org for God “white supremacist”.

Results 1100 of about 290 from splcenter.org for God Nazi.

==

Results 1100 of about 813 from splcenter.org for “white Supremacist”.

Thus a little more than 1 in 6 times that “white supremacist” is used by SPLC on their website, God is associated with it.

Results 1100 of about 1,720 from splcenter.org for nazi.

Thus a little more than 1 in 6 times that Nazi is used by SPLC on their website, God is associated with it.

==

God, then Christian and Jesus were searched at SPLC after the Ron Paul results were found and then others checked at SPLC for Nazi and “White Supremacist”.

==Analysis

The original hypothesis has some support but is clearly only partly valid. The main problem is that the left in general and SPLC in particular want to ramp up to Nazi and white supremacist rather quickly. The term racist is still the preferred term for any comment from the right on the topic of immigration, crime, etc. The Delaware State and Washington public school programs that teach all whites are racist also prefers that term to saying say that all whites are Nazi or all whites are white supremacists.

Despite the randomness in the use of these words, there is still some tendency to escalate in rhetoric in the way the original hypothesis outlined. If you talk about what is happening, say its happening to whites, say it should stop, and say the white race deserves to live and to continue, and that its appropriate to act to do so, you are almost certain to be called a bigot or nativist, and have a good chance of being called a white nationalist or white supremacist. Distinguishing between white nationalist and white supremacist may be something only specialists do. It seems once they go for “white nationalist” they immediately go to “white supremacist”.
Those who call for ending the white race are usually cheered. Its very rare they are criticized. Nor is any term like white ethnocide or racecide, whitecide or white zeroist used to describe this in any standard way. Even though its openly advocated, planned, and announced by the EU as draft policy.

Bill Clinton also cheered it and in effect admitted that it is the policy of the U.S. government to make whites a minority in the U.S. Since the US engages in affirmative action and other acts, this amounts to making whitecide US government policy. This is because the cumulative effect of this policy is to reduce European white fertility to below replacement, which it is now world wide in almost every country if not every country.

If you listen to what they say about whitecide, repeat it, say you disagree with that policy, say you want to oppose the policy and propose specific action to stop whitecide, then they say you are a white nationalist or white supremacist with a good probability. It would be interesting to check what SPLC and ADL use for these individuals on their websites. This can be done by adding site: and the name of the website.

Basically, if you speak up, say what is happening, say its happening to whites, say whites have a right to survive and propose specific measures to stop it, then they are going to go after you as a white supremacist. They also will go quickly from nativist and bigot right through white nationalist to white supremacist without pausing. They are ready to pounce on anything a party or well-known person says to immediately push them all the way to white supremacist. Bottom line, if you speak up and out they are going to target you and they want to escalate to white supremacist. Other searches would be on Nazi, which likely has similar results.

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Genetics. 1979 January; 91(1): 163–176.

The Island Model with Stochastic Migration

Thomas Nagylaki

Department of Biophysics and Theoretical Biology, The University of Chicago, 920 East 58th Street, Chicago, Illinois 60637

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1213928

The island model with stochastically variable migration rate and immigrant gene frequency is investigated. It is supposed that the migration rate and the immigrant gene frequency are independent of each other in each generation, and each of them is independently and identically distributed in every generation. The treatment is confined to a single diallelic locus without mutation. If the diploid population is infinite, selection is absent and the immigrant gene frequency is fixed, then the gene frequency on the island converges to the immigrant frequency, and the logarithm of the absolute value of its deviation from it is asymptotically normally distributed.

The above implies that if you have two genes in some frequency in the immigrant population, that under one way migration that frequency becomes the frequency on the island.

From PDF, conclusion:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1213928&blobtype=pdf

We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/category/island-model/

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If the EU bothered to read science articles on the internet, they would find out the end result of their actions is not a new race of white and non-white, its just elimination of whites. That is what the math says. Its a theorem.

== Random, Emotion, Civility, Failure to Condemn Hypotheses

The above analysis and searches leads to some new hypotheses to consider.

Hypothesis: Racist is the preferred term for attacking whites who talk about any subject involving race, immigration, etc. If the person says something like macaca, stop Muslim immigration, don’t use the Koran for oaths, etc. they will be deluged with racist.

Hypothesis: The use of the words white nationalist, white supremacist is almost random and independent of what the person said. Instead, these terms reflect the emotion of the leftist.

Hypothesis: Nazi is also a word that just means the leftist is too angry (or full of hate) to stop at racist and has to say more.

Hypothesis: The attack on Ron Paul and association with racist and white supremacist shows intent to smear. Ron Paul is a very mild mannered man. His main issue is smaller government. He is also anti war. He is for immigration restriction. He is anti big government in all forms. He treats everyone with civility. He will, if he has time, talk to anyone about anything, listen to them, and treat them with civility and as serious whatever the person says. He does not condemn people. Ron Paul then says what he thinks and tries to use reason and facts to persuade those he disagrees with instead of calling them names. This whole set of attributes produces an extreme reaction of what might be called hate but definitely fear. His civility and rationality, fairness and openness to everyone threatens the whole rule by smear and fear official information complex.

Hypothesis: There is no strategy to keep from being called white supremacist, white nationalist, Nazi, racist, bigot, nativist, etc. if you want to say anything that is non-establishment or if you will treat anyone with civility and not condemn them as a person for what they say. If you adopt civility towards all, are willing to listen to anyone, and will respond with civility and reason, they will go ballistic and start calling you racist, Nazi, white nationalist and white supremacist.

Hypothesis: There are funded groups that try to organize attacks on leaders like Lou Dobbs, Ron Paul, Tom Tancredo, as well as Lawrence Auster, Jared Taylor, Peter Brimelow, the BNP Ballerina, etc. These attacks follow a script and the script ends up calling them Nazi, white nationalist, white supremacist. The script doesn’t call for waiting at white nationalist, but as the numbers indicate, once they use white nationalist, they go to white supremacist. Racist is used without any compunction as an entry level word.

Hypothesis: Attacks using Nazi, white nationalist and white supremacist may be used partly to get attention from search engines. The use of the word racist doesn’t get enough identification. SPLC has a high revenue stream. Just using words like racist or bigot isn’t going to get as much attention in search engines as Nazi and white supremacist. They may want to use stronger terms to get more attention and then more funding. This also may be why God and Nazi go together so much at the SPLC website.

This is draft and preliminary. All statements should be restated as questions or hypotheses. This is subject to revision. All comments welcome. All other disclaimers apply.

Vanishing American’s March of Truth

November 1, 2007

Vanishing American has had a great series of articles attracting many comments at her site in important thread discussions where people come out for forbidden truth. These are an antidote to others giving into PC and denouncing others for unPC at some sites.

(Note this is also Fjordman’s March to Truth, and Lawrence Auster‘s March of Truth, and Sheik Yer’mami‘s March for Truth, and Paul Belien at Brussels Journal, and Gates of Vienna, Atlas Shrugs, many of them linked to below. These are all in response to what might be, although I have not followed him enough to be sure, Charles Johnson at LGF’s march from Truth. I am hopeful LGF can simply drop this line and we will have been strengthened and enlightened by this dialogue as good debate colleagues who can get past moments of excitement in discussion.)

One of the recent ones VA Posts is here:

http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2007/11/discussion-on-recent-thread-provoked.html

My own comment at the thread on becoming more unPC is:

I have become more politically incorrect just as part of the process of commenting at sites or blogging. Each time we speak the truth against the establishment, it becomes easier to do. Also, truth builds on truth. As we speak more truth, we see more truth.

There are also fear resistance levels. There are taboos that are harder to break as you march through telling truth. James Watson went through one of the high resistance levels, and was attacked for it. The MSM are desperate to preserve their control on public speech. Each time we speak out to say an obvious truth it changes us and also makes it easier for others.

I agree with you that we are reverting to normality. The liberals think that as well. This is why they stage these attacks. The worst is to condemn others for speaking out. This kills us inside more than anything. This has been a great series of articles VA. Its having an impact.

==Circular Firing Squad at LGF continues:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=27764_Wednesday_Night_Link_Depot&only

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=27758_Vlaams_Belang_and_the_US_White_Supremacist_Cesspool&only

With comments exposed at Little Green Footballs

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=27758_Vlaams_Belang_and_the_US_White_Supremacist_Cesspool#comments

==Antidotes

http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2007/10/nationalists-and-neocons.html

Above has 40 comments on the comment thread as of 1 Nov 2007 10:25 AM.

http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.com/2007/10/its-everywhere.html

Racism is human nature.

To claim it occurs only in Whites is absurd.

University of Delaware is making students say that. We are allowed to comment about it.

To claim that you are not a racist will only help doom you and your kin to oblivion.

The left disagrees with this, not the dooming, just the implication whites have a right to stop their “rightful” doom.

“Racism is human nature” seems to be generally believed. Liberals believe this, and their response is either self-hate or to manipulate it for self-wealth. SPLC and Wall Street are examples. Eduardo Mestre is the investment banker who did M and A, presumably American job destruction, and chaired the CSHL board that “let” Watson retire. Scientists believe this when they model and study human populations. Historians believe this when they write about history. The older the events, the easier it is to accept racism as part of the story and to just deal with it. The left has perfected the manipulation of self-hate about racism for its own ends, many of which are openly racist such as at Delaware University, covered in the VA threads.

Link from VA

http://dicklist.blogspot.com/2006/07/tdl-gaming-world-series-of-victimhood.html

The above deck of victimhood cards should send the message that LGF is on the wrong track by attacking anti-immigration groups. Its ineffective at best to be anti-Islamofascism and for immigration.

Steve Sailer at Vdare linked to this:

http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/10/james-watson-tells-inconvenient-truth_296.php

More antidotes

http://reflight.blogspot.com/search/label/Immigration

The best antidotes are to write comments, write emails to your Congressman, go to the Numbers USA Fax site or Fairus and fax against legal immigration. Does LGF think that everyone who called their senator in June 2007 is a racist who should be exiled from civil discussion? Does LGF think that fighting jihad means Muslim immigration to Europe and America?

Maybe Charles Johnson has opposed this immigration, I don’t follow him. But to attack Peter Brimelow and others who oppose immigration as bigots, if that is what he is doing, undermines whatever action he proposes or intends to fight jihad. Does he intend others to do the “racist” things that win the fight, while he stays above it all, and earns income however he does from holding back? I have not followed his comments closely enough to know what his views really are. But there is a trend in this direction.

Perhaps there is a new definition of neocon, although its wider than that group. A neocon is someone who incites others to do “racist” things that the neocon believes have to be done, while the neocon stands back and pretends to be above it and makes money safely. This is, of course, older than neocons.

Quite often, its a corporation engaged in intentional racist exploitation and democide for profit that is paying the neocons or liberals or flack hacks. Why do we let corporations engage in democide and pretend they are PC? It seems a valid statement that those engaged in democide for profit denounce others as racists. This is how the liberals, neocons, MSM, universities, think tanks, speaking fees for hire, etc. seem to earn their money.

Those who advocate for war against Islam or Islamofascism and call Virgil Goode a bigot or racist for wanting to end Muslim immigration are hypocrites. War is racist, and if its not, its damn close. Racism will be opposed by racism seems like a law of human physics. The left simply wants to charge a fee to each side of the transaction for transgressing.

The left says you can have your racism, but only if you pay an indulgence. Universities and think tanks are in the racket of handing out indulgences for racism. The left might be called the Race Indulgence Complex. The universities attack whites for racism, because whites have more money to pay for a “race indulgence”. Charge racism where the money is if you want to become rich.

This is draft and preliminary. This is not meant to criticize Charles Johnson or LGF, just to raise some issues for further discussion. This is subject to revision.

==Added 851 AM 1 Nov 2007

Following is from links at Little Green Footballs

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=27764_Wednesday_Night_Link_Depot&only

Another smear and jeer site for dollars:

http://www.buildingdemocracy.org/Articles/Building_Democracy_Magazine_-_April_2007/Vlaams_Belang_in_the_USA_200703311075/

On February 22, Vlaams Belang leaders held a meeting with the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), the oldest and most influential anti-immigrant group in the country. The next evening they also spoke at a forum organized by the “Robert A. Taft Club” in the Arlington, Virginia suburb of Washington, D.C.

Given the VB’s reputation, FAIR’s decision to meet with its representatives should tell us something about the American anti-immigrant lobby. Despite its origins in the den of white supremacist eugenics, FAIR executives have made a great deal of noise pretending that race, culture and the continued hegemony of white people are not on their agenda. FAIR gives money to candidates, supports and opposes legislation and other wise acts as if it is just one more D.C.-based political lobby. But VB is explicitly about race and white dominance, and the meeting with FAIR is one more piece of evidence linking the American lobby to white nationalism.

From this its clear this group is advocating white minority status everywhere. That is their clear agenda. This is implied by their statements. We need to wake up to their racism. By the way, its usually considered racist to eliminate a group, not to preserve it. But they have defined it as racism for whites to perpetuate themselves.

..

The Virginia forum, on the other hand, openly gathered an amalgam of Buchananites, proponents of scientific racism, and white supremacists from the Council of Conservative Citizens. The event was organized by 23-year-old Marcus Epstein, the executive director at both The American Cause Foundation, founded by Pat Buchanan, and the Team America PAC, where Pat’s sister Angela (Bay) Buchanan serves as chair.

Its time to stop denouncing our own so that this group can make money from its donors. We are supposed to denounce our own so they can get money for calling us racist and then making us call our own racist?

Among his many literary accomplishments, Epstein wrote his own eulogy of Sam Francis for the white nationalist website VDARE, declaring that, “like so many Southern leaders before him, Sam Francis ‘took his stand’.”

They just said that white majorities are racist and have to be eliminated everywhere. Wherever you take your stand, they will call you a racist, Nazi, confederate, Klanner, Duker, Buchananite, CCCer etc.

Epstein seemed to do everything except whistle Dixie in his prose.

Lincoln didn’t condemn Dixie, why should we condemn Dixie to please and profit this group?

And so he had the pleasure of introducing the two Vlaams Belangers to a crowd of about thirty-five white nationalists.

Notice how he is saying that preserving the white race is only a fringe supported activity. We are supposed to condemn everyone doing it or advocating it is the suggestion, because its fringe, and we will lose our job if we don’t denounce.

Its time to wake-up. This is hate that they are spewing. This is openly proclaimed democide and ethnocide and racecide. They are saying preserving whites is racism and you will lose your job if you advocate it. Time to listen to what they say.

This is an organized attack on the entire immigration restriction movement. They are attacking FAIR, Vdare, Buchanan, James Watson, etc. They are doing this for money and to destroy us.

It doesn’t matter what you say, they call you a racist Nazi white nationalist white supremacist. Even if you agree, as at U Delaware they call you that. All whites are white nationalist Nazis to the left.

Brentin Mock wrote an SPLC article about

All blacks are on green light no matter where” to be killed in LA county by Hispanic gangs.

One green light leads to the other. We can wordsmith this to

All whites are on green light to be called white nationalist Nazis no matter what they actually say or don’t say.

As University of Delaware said, it doesn’t matter what whites do or say or don’t do or don’t say, they will be treated the same in this war. As the Sultan said in the 19th century, “All wars on infidels are but one.” So to the left, “All wars on whites are but one.”

All whites are white nationalists to the left. Silence is not a defense for whites. All whites will be called white nationalists no matter what they say or don’t say.

This is not hyperbole. They say openly that no land will be a white majority land. They say openly anyone who calls for the survival of the white race they will destroy. What are these but an open proclamation of unending war and annihilation? Why don’t we listen to them and take them seriously?

LGF links to this as a normal site. This Building Democracy site is openly calling for racecide and ethnocide of whites. LGF links to it the same way it condemns the Muslim Brotherhood being condemned. How can LGF link to both approvingly? The only answer is money?

LGF wants an audience for anti-Islamofascism and thinks that linking to white democide and racecide sites will help it keep the money flowing? This is not to assert this as a conclusion, just to raise this issue. Didn’t LGF get started as just a random website trying to make money and then it latched onto anti-Islamofascism after 9-11? Someone at one of the VA threads linked to the early pages of LGF showing this was its evolution.

This is draft and preliminary. These are hypotheses and speculation. All statements should be restated as questions. All other disclaimers apply.

==9:42 AM 1 Nov 2007

The neocons engaged in torture and many have defended it. They have waterboarded Muslims. Some have at the same time denounced Virgil Goode as a bigot for saying stop Muslim immigration. The only reason to waterboard Muslims is Muslim immigration. If we had no Muslim immigration after the WTC 1993 attacks, we would not have tortured any Muslims. Its irrational to be for torture of Muslims and call those who say stop their immigration bigots.

As others have pointed out, they engage in this open hypocrisy to show their power over us. Our staying silent before it is meant to show us our powerlessness to change our fate. We die inside when we stay silent in the face of such hypocrisy and lies. That is the point. They want us to die inside, so they can make us die outside. That’s the whole point of the Democide Industrial Complex.

==The Wright Island Model Theorem

In population genetics, the case of one way migration is often treated in what is called the “Island Model”.

Genetics. 1979 January; 91(1): 163–176.

The Island Model with Stochastic Migration

Thomas Nagylaki

Department of Biophysics and Theoretical Biology, The University of Chicago, 920 East 58th Street, Chicago, Illinois 60637

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1213928

The island model with stochastically variable migration rate and immigrant gene frequency is investigated. It is supposed that the migration rate and the immigrant gene frequency are independent of each other in each generation, and each of them is independently and identically distributed in every generation. The treatment is confined to a single diallelic locus without mutation. If the diploid population is infinite, selection is absent and the immigrant gene frequency is fixed, then the gene frequency on the island converges to the immigrant frequency, and the logarithm of the absolute value of its deviation from it is asymptotically normally distributed.

The above implies that if you have two genes in some frequency in the immigrant population, that under one way migration that frequency becomes the frequency on the island.

From PDF, conclusion:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1213928&blobtype=pdf

We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.

==Immigration Vanishing Survival Theorem

Immigration Vanishing Survival Theorem

This adds to and is actually easier to understand than the Wright Island Model papers.

==Immigration is Whitecide, Its a Theorem.

The immigration process inherently leads to the extinction of all whites. Not just their genes for skin, all their genes are wiped out. This is a program of democide and racecide. Its published in science journals. We see why they are anti-science. They are engaging in whitecide and they don’t want scientists who know these papers to speak up like James Watson did.

==Sheik Yer-mami Winds of Jihad points out LGF’s error

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/10/31/little-green-canniballistic-lizards-update/

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/10/30/little-green-canniballistic-lizards

For millennium wars were fought by alliances. Hitler allied himself with Muslims, the allies united against Hitler with communist Russia, the US allies itself with any despot or dictator that is useful to her, including Islamic Turkey, African despots and South American dictators. And the same US sees Saudi Arabia and Pakistan as allies against the misnamed ‘WoT’ – yet the lizard army is clinging to a moral buraq that is so high up in the stratosphere that the oxygen bottles explode.

Excellent comment thread. To paraphrase Zionist Younger, we can’t be to critical of those in the foxhole with us shooting out, especially when we aren’t even in the foxhole and they are.

==”When Friends Attack”

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/10/lgf-and-cair.html

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=27653_When_Friends_Attack#comments

==Earlier OA articles keying off of VA’s discussion:

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2007/10/28/re-va-on-nationalism-and-neocons/

https://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2007/10/28/neocons-and-anarchists/

Search neocons anarchists

Results 1100 of about 599,000 for neocons anarchists.

Neocons seem to lack an inner consistency that undermines everything they touch. They don’t really understand that we have to preserve a civilization. This means preserving the people, and yes that includes preserving the whites and the white majority status of Western lands.

A non-white West is not the West. Why does that sound so racist? Does it sound as racist to say a non-Asian East is not the East? A non-Chinese China is not China? But a non-British Britain is not Britain. Why does that sound racist? Who made it sound racist? When?

A third world West won’t be the West. The neocons are so short sighted, and so worried about being called racist and losing their funding, that they undermine the fight they are in and turn on those who are doing the actual “racist” fighting that they act as voyeurs for. Victory in war is ugly and brings out ugly emotions. Those who call for war should have more internal reflection.

Those who call for torture of Muslim immigrants but call Virgil Goode a bigot for saying stop Muslim immigration are irrational and can’t see themselves. This is an ugly fight we are in. We didn’t choose it. We were going along with multiculti PC, despite our doubts, until we realized its a racial train wreck not racial harmony.

== Fjordman at Gates of Vienna has commented extensively on Charles Johnson and Vlaams Belang. Fjordman has extensively defended the idea of defending whites at LGF and forced out an important admission from Charles Johnson.

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/11/little-green-footballs-and-racism-in.html

he (Charles Johnson) reluctantly replied that yes, Europeans have the right to resist being turned into a minority in their own countries.

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